• I felt that Jessica Hsuan's role could've been played by an average actor at TVB. it was a waste to bring Jessica in to play the role that she played. She should've been the antagonist like someone had mentioned.
  • @anon hahahahah that's what I meant too. Not hating but watching Linda and Fala is torture. Their crying scenes are not convincing at all. Pls be a good mom don't come back to filming.
  • Eric acted well in OCTB. He needs to explore more opportunities outside of TVB. His talent is wasted there.
  • Linda! Please stay off-screen!
  • @anon tagging you again about the newest post on my blog about OCTB, just in case, lol....
  • @anon @jjwong I finally wrote up a post about OCTB on my blog..feel free to discuss over there if you'd like: https://llsmusings.blogspot.com/2017/10/hk-web-series-octb.html?m=0
  • @anon Yup…some media outlets are calling the person who reported the series as someone with “malicious intentions”….I tend to agree in this case. The good news is that the production company reacted quickly and was able to get it all worked out almost immediately. Further news today is that OCTB already surpassed the 300 million viewership mark and it is rumored that the production team is already planning season 2 -- the script is already being written, main players will be the same but with different supporting cast…most important of all though, they are willing to throw double the amount of money into the production, with costs estimated to range between $100 to $200 million HKD (the first season took $60 million HKD to make). Justin Cheung (he plays the main villain in the series) said that season 2 plans aren’t confirmed yet, as the process is a little different with web series than traditional series – with web series, they need to look at the viewership numbers (i.e. the number of “hits” or “real-time playback”) and determine whether there will be return on investment, which plays a huge role in the amount of money investors are willing to put in….the higher the viewership, the more likely that investors are willing to front larger sum of money for them to make season 2. So basically, the more people who watch the series, the better….
  • @llwy12 Yup, that sounds like TVB. They always resort to underhanded tactics to overcome their competitions. Something similar happened a few years ago when HKTV posed a threat. Thanks again for keeping us updated!
  • @anon @jjwong (and whoever else is watching OCTB currently) Just FYI in case you have trouble accessing OCTB on Youtube. Over the weekend, Youtube actually blocked access to the series and took it down for a period of time. When the production company inquired with YT why they did that, YT told them that someone had “reported” the series to them and so they took it down. The series has since been put back up and all access has been “unlocked” however the version they up there at the moment is some crappy low-res version rather than the original HD version that was up there before. The production company is working with YT to clarify all possible misunderstandings so this doesn’t happen again but you never know. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want but I kind of feel like TVB has something to do with this….currently the series only airs in HK via Youtube (in Mainland, it airs on Youku, since Youtube is banned in China), so it had to be someone in HK who reported it (overseas audiences are watching too but highly doubt they would care enough to report it)…unlike TVB series, which other people put on YT illegally, the production team for OCTB intentionally put the series up on their own YT channel so HK viewers could watch for free, so of course they have no reason to “report” the series either.... coincidentally, there has been a lot of coverage in the media recently about OCTB actually doing better than Line Walker 2 in terms of overall popularity and hype….so if it wasn’t the production company or anyone associated with the series, it wasn’t Mainland audiences, and most likely it wasn’t HK audiences who are currently “chasing” the series, who else does that leave? Hmmm….
  • @anon I watch it from the site icdrama.se. They always have up to date dramas and constantly reupload older dramas (even the very old ones too). Not sure who they are. @llwy12 Thank you very much for the info. As always you're the go to person so anon was right lol.
  • @anon You’re welcome! And totally agree! I’ve actually been reading up on some stuff about OCTB and I’m quite impressed with the quality of the production and the backstory of how things came about. Of course the series is not perfect by any means (despite the astronomical amount of money spent on the production) and I’m sure not everyone is going to like the series, but even with its flaws, OCTB is still a far more superior production than LW2 (ok, probably far more superior than most of TVB’s series from the past few years). I too hope they (meaning the production team behind OCTB) keep the momentum going and continue to produce quality series for HK audiences, especially since ViuTV and Fantastic Television definitely aren’t cutting it (though I will say that ViuTV is getting a little better now that they’ve switched their strategy to filming more TV series than variety shows – their currently airing series, I think English name is “Next Exit”, is quite inventive and has been getting pretty good feedback from audiences…but the station still has a ways to go to make any type of name for themselves in HK, especially since their series so far have been largely “niche-based” and not really for general audiences). Oh and there's also Fox Asia's series to look forward to as well....
  • @llwy12 That's great news! Thanks for the update llwy12, I wouldn't have checked this thread if you hadn't tagged me. I am glad that they've achieved the success that they've had so far. OCTB is a more superior series than LW, IMHO. I hope their success continues and that they will produce more quality HK dramas in the future. I am dying for someone to take on TVB head-on. Unfortunately, ViuTV and Fantastic TV aren't there yet.
  • @jjwong @anon @elizabeth (sorry if I missed including anyone else...too many people commented about watching this series, hard to keep track, plus the more people I put, the likelier my comment will get put in the awaiting moderation queue)... The LATEST UPDATE from today (literally hot off the press) is that OCTB’s internet 'ratings' have officially exceeded LW2’s! OCTB’s internet hits (I think the official term for it is 'real-time playback') was at 179 million as of last night while Line Walker 2 was at 176 million – as of today, OCTB has broken the 200 million mark, thus placing them in the number 2 spot as the most watched series in Mainland China currently with Line Walker 2 having to settle for third place (1st place is a 100% Mainland series that also has similar cop - triad theme).
  • @anon There are ads played throughout an eps on YT. Also, I haven't really looked but there might be product placements in the series. It might not pull in as much as traditional ads, no immediate ROI, but in the long run, it'll probably benefit the production company if/when the series becomes a hit. On top of that, I like to think these vet actors agree mostly to entertain, for the audience sake and for better good of HK entertainment industry *pumps fist*
  • @anon Good question! I’m actually not 100% sure how it works but I did read somewhere that advertisers who usually put their money towards traditional television have started warming to the idea of web series in recent years, as they are starting to recognize the huge influence that the internet and social media platforms have on the general viewing public…..plus, advertising for traditional television had already been on a decline for many years anyway, so some advertisers are happy to switch to a platform that will give them better returns. There’s definitely a market for web series out there, which is why so many media companies are either switching to this platform or integrating it into the services they offer. In the case of OCTB, I’m not too familiar with any of the Mainland production companies involved with the series, so I’m not sure where they are getting their money from and how they are turning over a profit. I would have to assume that they are indeed teaming up with one of the media platforms in the Mainland to air the series over there, since Youtube is banned in China and a lot of the “hits” they are referring to include Mainland audiences. When I have time, I’ll do a little research and see if I can find out anything….
  • @llwy12 Thanks for the insightful post! I am up to episode 8 now. I hope this production company will produce more HK dramas in the future. They definitely have the right formula going. Question though, how do they make money online as a web series? I've been watching it on Youtube. I highly doubt they can recoup their cost from YT views, nevermind making a profit from this. They must be broadcasting this on other online platforms as well.
  • @jjwong @anon @kaykay408 @jimmyszeto Trying my comment again (got to break it up into parts because I have no idea what is causing it to get banned so if the below sounds choppy, I apologize)... OCTB is actually a web series that is the result of a collaborative effort between 2 little known Mainland production companies. The producer is HK actor/dancer Danny Chan Kwok Kwan (his wife is singer Emme Wong), who also stars in the series (for those who may not be familiar with him, he’s primarily a movie actor and is nicknamed Little Dragon because of how closely he resembles Bruce Lee). The reason why Jordan Chan is in this is because he is buddies with Danny, so he agreed to co-star together with him. Danny’s wife Emme Wong is also in the series. They invited boatloads of HK veterans to participate in this, both from the movie and television worlds but not only that, they actually put a lot into the script as well as the production itself – the production costs top 60 million HKD, which is A LOT of money for a 40 episode web series. Also, the series was actually shot last year but they only started airing it this week (probably to go up against TVB’s much-hyped Line Walker 2 premiere). And yes, if there seems to be a Young and Dangerous - gangster - old HK vibe to the series, it makes sense because so many of the veteran actors they invited were famous for their roles in Y&D and all those other triad - gangster-themed series….also the setting for the series is 1980s HK…even the theme song is an old classic, the theme song from HK’s very first cop series produced back in 1977, which was originally sung by Michael Kwan (Benji Chiang, who also stars in OCTB, was given the honor of re-making the song for the series and also serve as producer for the rest of the music in the series). The other interesting fact is that this series is indeed giving Line Walker 2 a run for its money. As of yesterday, the number of hits for LW2 over a 5 day period is close to 200 million however for OCTB, it has already surpassed the 100 million mark in less than 3 days of broadcast. Personally, I prefer OCTB over LW2, not just because of the cast but also the quality of the production overall, which pretty much leaves LW2 and TVB in the dust…. Also, my understanding is that this series has nothing to do with TVB, though I think someone mentioned that Shaw Bros is partly involved hence why there are some TVB actors in this (though very few TVB people from what I can see – if they were truly involved, the series would be filled with majority TVB people). I have not seen anything specifically saying Shaw Bros is involved so I am going to stick with this having nothing to do with TVB unless there is proof to show otherwise…
  • @anon LOL…how do you know I would know? :-) @kaykay408 @anon Ok, first, OCTB is NOT a TVB-produced series so let’s get that out of the way first. In fact, the series has absolutely nothing to do with TVB whatsoever (wanted to make that clear for obvious reasons, lol). OCTB is actually a web-series that is the result of a collaborative effort between 2 little known Mainland production companies. The producer is HK actor/dancer Danny Chan Kwok Kwan (his wife is singer Emme Wong), who also stars in the series (for those who may not be familiar with him, he’s primarily a movie actor and is nicknamed “Little Dragon” because of how closely he resembles Bruce Lee). The reason why Jordan Chan is in this is because he is buddies with Danny, so he agreed to co-star together with him. Danny’s wife Emme Wong is also in the series. They invited boatloads of HK veterans to participate in this, both from the movie and television worlds but not only that, they actually put a lot into the script as well as the production itself – the production costs top 60 million HKD, which is A LOT of money for a 40 episode web series. Also, the series was actually shot last year but they only started airing it this week (probably to go up against TVB’s much-touted Line Walker 2 premiere). And yes, if there seems to be a “Young and Dangerous” / gangster / old HK vibe to the series, it makes sense because so many of the veteran actors they invited were famous for their roles in Y&D and all those other triad / gangster-themed series….also the setting for the series is 1980s HK…even the theme song is an old classic, the theme song from HK’s very first cop series produced back in 1977, which was originally sung by Michael Kwan (Benji Chiang, who also stars in OCTB, was given the honor of re-making the song for the series and also serve as producer for the rest of the music in the series). The other interesting fact is that this series is indeed giving Line Walker 2 a run for its money. As of yesterday, the number of “hits” for LW2 over a 5 day period is close to 200 million however for OCTB, it has already surpassed the 100 million mark in less than 3 days of broadcast. Personally, I prefer OCTB over LW2, not just because of the cast but also the quality of the production overall, which pretty much leaves LW2 and TVB in the dust….
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