• @aiya oh I agree, which is why I said it's not always, which means there are definitely exceptions to the rule, such as Anthony Wong, Chapman To, Edison Chen and even Eric Tsang (until he got bonked in the head with a glass bottle.) Some people are much slower in learning even with age and experience. Kevin Cheng used to have a foot-in-mouth problems too, if you check his older interviews. Which is why I think he has mightily improved. There's correlation between his age and experience to become the way he is now, but taking it for a given seems dismissive.
  • @coralie Actually, according to psychologists who founded the concept of EQ, it is highly correlated with age and experience, That's why adults generally have higher EQ than children. And common sense also dictates that how well one controls one's emotions is a cumulative product of one's experiential perception. As for Uncle Cheng's contemporaries like Anthony Wong, his irreverent treatment of the paps is all part of a calculated strategy that helps to reaffirm his "bad boy" image which he had cultivated all through his career.
  • @aiya haha, age and experience does not always commensurate with EQ, my friend. look at Anthony Wong and all those other hot-headed veterans of the industry. they still haven't learned to be PC with reporters and play taichi with them.
  • @kolo from your selections, maybe Roger Kwok could play Vincent's role well. The others are now either past-tense or one-trick ponies. I hate saying that about Raymond Lam (since I used to be a huge fan), but ever since his 'chok' phase, he's no longer the same. I can't even watch his dramas anymore (his mainland ones) without thinking how his acting has derailed. Whether Kenneth can fit into the role of Mang Haap isn't really up for debate because it will never happen. However, I can tell you that Vincent can play Siu Ma with flying colors, only because his resume speaks for itself. I'm not saying Kenneth isn't a good actor. I'm saying in terms of this year's awards, I think Vincent did a much better job. His character can be played by most people, but doesn't mean they'll be able to express it as well as he did.
  • @coralie Uncle Cheng is approaching 50; there would be serious problems if he had not demonstrate the kind of maturity commensurate with his age and time spent in the business. I never understood why people keep comparing Uncle Cheng to his niece in terms of intelligence and maturity. For crying out loud he is 23 years older so he's supposed to be further along in these areas. Relational power imbalance is one of the reason why these old creeps prey on younger females because it automatically makes them look great and gives them all the power over their junior partners.
  • @msxie0714 if they were already established, then I don't think it'll impact their image much. But if they weren't, then their image can take a nosedive.
  • @diana80 I actually cant imagine Kenneth in Vincent's role. Kenneth can take on a variety of roles, but I can't see him in an idol one. His image doesn't fit. And to be fair, apparently Vince's role as a blind lawyer was tailor-made. So how could anyone take on that mantle easily? Whereas Vince can take on a rash and vulgar role easily, as he's done so many times before. I understand that sometimes an award is for the purpose of encouragement, but if his role and character really isn't the best, then he can try again. I said the same thing during the golden bell award when it was mark zhou (who was a total newcomer at the time) who won against Vic. Lots of ppl argued against giving mark the honor, but he really did do better than Vic in his role. If everyone gives out sympathy awards, then there is no need for awards to be fair
  • @coralie A 2001 mainland film Lanyu was much more explicit and graphic and didn't affect the careers of actors Hu Jun and Liu Ye.
  • KC has definitely matured EQ wise when it comes to responding to reporters' inquiries and nosy questions. I think Grace is pretty tactful too, but she has a propensity to add too many unnecessary details.
  • An award is not a pity game. It shouldn't be given to whomever has more pity votes. Both Kenneth and Vincent are strong contenders, but given the depth of their dramas this year, I still think Vincent was better. A good actor is a good actor - there shouldn't be 'too soon' remarks. If they did well in a role, they should be awarded for it.
  • @m0m0 my jaw dropped too. This IS really graphic and some stuff in it...not sure TW dramas even do for opposite gender couples o.O. I dunno what's gonna happen to these actors who are playing these roles...image is going to be hard to bounce back, similar to wang kai from Nirvana in Fire. He got the biggest flak for playing a gay character until he played Prince Jing in NIF
  • @coralie don't get me started on Miss Motor Mouth Grace Chan. She is the perfect example of having a cute face and nothing else and getting pushed really high up in the entertainment world. She has nothing to offer, unless flapping one's mouth like a turbo engine counts as a talent. There is a problem with today's batch of entertainers in the ebiz industry. They are given the keys to easy access because of their significant others, family members, family wealth, or they simply have to have a gorgeous face, by society's standards, or win a beauty pageant. If they have any of the mentioned criteria, the rest as they say, is history. I for one can be forgiving if these men and women make an effort to improve, but they usually don't. Why should they?. They know that fanatic fans will buy they at best mediocre music, watch their cheeseburger movies and tv series and go their fanclub meetings and support their products that have their name or support.. They will garner fame and fortune while running on empty in the talent department, which is the core ingredient that should have made them famous in the first place. I remember days when there were stories of the actresses and actors in the Chen Daoming, Rosemund Kwan era and even a bit further back were looked upon as brash, inexperienced actors. Instead of letting the compliments about their looks go to their heads, they remained level headed and improved on their acting. Carina Lau and Leslie Cheung are also good examples of improving on acting and singing. Today's newbies with a cute face and body are just thrust into leading man/woman status without paying their dues and earning their keeps. If Chen D declined the role for the reason mentioned, who can blame him? Let me answer that, NO ONE.
  • @coralie well said, don't get me started on Miss Motor Mouth Grace Chan. She is the perfect example of having a cute face and nothing else and getting pushed really high up in the entertainment world. She has nothing to offer, unless flapping one's mouth like a turbo engine counts as a talent. There is a problem with today's batch of entertainers in the ebiz industry. They are given the keys to easy access in the business because of their significant others, family members, family wealth, or they simply have to have a gorgeous face, by society's standards, or win a beauty pageant. If they have any of the mentioned criteria, the rest as they say, is history. I for one, have no problem if these men and women make an effort to improve, but they usually don't. Why should they?. They know that fanatic fans will buy their at best mediocre music, watch their cheeseburger movies and tv series and go to their fanclub meetings and support any products that have their name or support.. They will garner fame and fortune while running on empty in the talent department, which is the core ingredient that should have made them famous in the first place. I remember days when there were stories of the actresses and actors in the Chen Daoming, Rosemund Kwan era and even a bit further back were looked upon as brash, inexperienced actors. Instead of letting the compliments about their looks go to their heads, they remained level headed and improved on their acting. Carina Lau and Leslie Cheung are also good examples of improving on acting and singing. These people ate ramen noodles and lunch boxes when they first started, worked long hours, missed important occasions with their loved ones, suffered all kinds of mental, physical and financial hardships to get to where they are now. They never complained when critiqued, but worked their butts off to improve. Today's newbies are automatically thrust into leading man/woman status without paying their dues and earning their keeps. If Chen D declined the role for the reason mentioned, who can blame him? Let me answer that, NO ONE. I would love to hear what @IIlwy12, @happybi, @janet72, @jjwong,
  • @coralie Maybe because of his reputation ?! I remember hearing that he has "playboy and arrogance" image, being from rich family. Personally I also don't like his face. Don't know why. It just that he looks like narcisstic for me.
  • @davy I never said looks didn't play a part in this. but, if they ONLY have face and no talent, that wouldn't work either. if it was Janice Man who was acting in ABB's roles, at least I could verily agree she's pretty enough to be in those roles. then it's a matter of her acting skills. grace chan is the ultimate example of a vase with no acting skills and right now, her likeability is an all time low. you can't just coast along with pure aesthetics and expect to be lauded. btw, the ones listed as 'beauties,' like Gao Yuan Yuan, LYF...I don't find them typically attractive either. but at least GYY can act. I'm not sure about LYF, I was never a fan so I don't watch her works much. but from what I've seen, she's not a great actress either. so I never vouch for either of them.
  • @coralie Gao Yuan Yuan came from no degree, no competition award, no supporting character, and went straight to a main star only because they found her in some advertisement. Everything went smooth for her although she got main roles without previous experience, because she is really really really pretty. I think we just have too much problems with ABB face, it's not a typical chinese face but quite westernized. She doesn't fit well into ancient chinese beauty category either, I have a big preference for her in modern movies but not ancient. I'm not convinced anybody need to start out as some dumb supporting roles in entertainment industry, people were blind to that belief and started creating very dumb supporting roles that should not even exist to waste time. Zhao li ying is a very big thing right now, but if she still looks like how she looked 7 years ago, I doubt she would be famous at all with the same look from Red Mansion 2011 (only 1 year before the big & fast transformation in Fair Princess 2010). It's all about the looks. 7 years ago, Liu yifei and Yang mi were well loved for their natural beauty, while Zhao li ying is the same age as them but was not liked, it was because of her looks, not exactly because her roles were dumb. Liu yifei's Love Winner, Love of May, and Doukou nianhua (04-05) were all very very dumb, dumb'er than what Zhao li ying played in Love Killed Nine River Hall and Mudan Pavilion (07-08). But it was Liu yi fei's beauty that was so great, and people fell in love with (extra points was Liu yi fei was a multi-talent in many things). The characters unknown supporting roles Zhao li ying did back then could've been interesting, but she was not as pretty yet. After 7 years passed, all the beautiful girls in their early 20's (including Liu Shi Shi and Tang Yan) are not as pretty anymore when getting closer and closer to 30's. Despite Liu yi fei's multi-talents, her ratings are getting lower and lower too. While Zhao liying who did not look as good back then now looks better than everyone else, even though she is not talented in anything else besides acting (not good with talking and singing), that was how she's at the top now. From what I understand, anybody who's the prettiest, goes to the top.
  • @coralie Etta Ng's lesbian auntie a typical corrupted canadian: Lazy, greedy, corrupted, poor, no-brain, shameless scammers and thieves who will do anything for self interests, esp calgary police!
  • @coralie he's not ugly or good looking but to me he's just very boring on screen.
  • @coralie They did a few years back – that was GOTV, which allowed access to their entire library of series (from the 1970s to present) for a monthly subscription fee. Only catch was that the service wasn’t available overseas (it was initially when they did the free trial for a few months)….after it became subscription based, it was HK audience access only, though there was verbiage on their website that they would eventually roll it out to overseas audiences as well (obviously they didn’t though). After the launch of myTV Super, they got rid of GOTV and essentially rolled it into myTV Super subscription. For those in the U.S., there’s the option of watching via encoreTVB (that’s TVB USA’s official platform for all of TVB’s series and variety programs), however the catch with that is that they rotate old series through and not all their series are available, so it just depends on what they have uploaded at the moment you check it. I check encoreTVB every week to see what classic series they put up and so far, it’s only been a handful (most of the series they upload are from the post 2000s era, which I’m not interested in). Unfortunately none of the series you mentioned are up there at this time, but checking just now, they do have some good choices up currently. The 3 oldest series they have up there from the 80s are Hap Hak Hang, Looking Back in Anger, and The Justice of Life…from the 90s, they’ve got quite a few: Blood of Good and Evil, Time Before Time, Mrs. Diana, Secret of the Heart, all 4 installments of Detective Investigation Files, Man’s Best Friend, Journey to the West, first installment of Healing Hands and first installment of Armed Reaction, The Greed of Man, and the 1997 version of Demi-Gods and Semi-Devils (these last 2 are scheduled to be taken down on 11/25). A few months back, they had The Challenge of Life, Love and Passion, and all 5 installments of Files of Justice up there, but looks like they switched those out already...
  • @lia00027 it's not as if angelababy had any official claim to fame aside from her looks. she started as a model, for godsakes. she's had quite a bit of opportunity since she's started to act, but from what I've seen of her works, they were mediocre at best. she went from model to main star without having to jump through hoops to hone her acting skills. and you wonder why people think her acting suck?
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