• @kaykay i agree with your opinion a lot except for mat, he can win it but the others on the list out shone him to me. and not only did moon not make top 5 on supporting actress, she actually didn't get nominated for supporting actress which is the BIGGEST disappointment to me as well as ali not getting nominated for legal mavericks. everyone else i agree with you!!
  • @coralie actually, the award is "飛躍進步女藝員"/"Most Improved Female Artiste" - artiste is not actress only. An artiste is all encompassing. It's 藝員, not 演員.
  • @kaykay I suppose I am one of the haters. After hearing her speech which came across as half dim witted and half pretentious, and I blame that on the fact that she is more not eloquent than genuinely fake, (as compared with Rebecca Zhu who was far more eloquent and far more genuine sounding and Kenneth who was also as dim witted but in a genuine way), i have worse impression of Sisley. I don't find her genuine in her speech. She sounds like she is complaining and then complimenting her own beauty. As for her performance, it wasn't as terrible as some would say over her previous works but it was a role any decent actress can pull it off, without the teeth. And her having that teeth is unnecessary. I don't find her pretty enough to distract me. Some artiste should just say thank you and leave the stage instead of rambling on and on and on with empty speeches like she did. 2nd worse speech had to be Kenneth but he was thankfully not long winded.
  • @kaykay @lewismcchan I also agree that the most deserved win of the night on the female side was Mayanne. Personally, I’m actually happy to finally see a female host who has the potential to be Dodo Cheng’s successor someday, as it is VERY MUCH needed at TVB right now. There are plenty of up-and-coming male hosts to take over for Eric Tsang but how many are there on the female side? Like two? (I’m talking hosts actually signed with TVB, not the ones they “borrow” from the various radio stations). It’s definitely not very many, that’s for sure! Hosting is not an easy job and not everyone is cut out for it – I would much rather see TVB having the likes of Mayanne (loud personality and all) hosting more variety programs than forcing us to endure those awful MHKs trying to fumble their way through a hosting gig that they obviously were not cut out for. With all that said though – in terms of MI award, even though I feel that Mayanne is deserving of the award, I can understand the “backlash” due to the expectation that an actual “actress” was expected to win. However, like I said earlier, the “backlash” should really be directed toward TVB and not Mayanne, since TVB should never have combined that award into one in the first place (it used to be separated out between drama and non-drama back in the old days). Also, by having one MI award for both drama and non-drama, TVB basically locked themselves into a corner, since it’s obvious the direction that they were trying to take with this year’s awards was to promote up-and-comers – they could’ve given the MI award on the female side to both Mayanne and Sisley and then give the Female Character award to someone else and everyone would’ve been happy (with those 2 categories at least). Btw, there IS a Best Host award but that award almost always goes to either the veteran hosts (Dodo, Eric, Nancy Sit, Liza Wang, Nat Chan, etc..) or special guest hosts (usually “big names”) that TVB most likely spent big bucks to invite (ie: Harlem Yu, Grasshopper, etc). Newer hosts rarely get a chance to win this award unless they are paired with one of the veterans or there happen to be no other worthy contenders (which is rare). The few exceptions are Sammy Leung (whom I would actually put in the veteran host category, though he isn’t technically signed to TVB so not really on the same level as the others) and also Tony Hung and Priscilla Wong, though both were already experienced hosts prior to joining TVB, plus they switched to focusing on dramas now so I guess they don’t really count in this category anymore.
  • @kaykay I absolutely agree with you regarding Kenneth. As much as he's liked by people, I don't think TEM was his best representative drama. I have yet to see a representative drama from him. He's a consistent actor, but maybe not the best yet
  • @lewismcchan @kaykay But the award is called "Most Improved Actress," not "Most Improved TV Entertainer/MC." They need to make a distinction. And no I've never heard of Mayanna Mak as I mostly watch TVB series. I don't watch their hosting shows, like Mr/Ms HK, etc.
  • @lewismcchan @coralie Surprised you haven't heard of her as she is so LOUD. Dodo or Eric wouldn't get this award because they haven't been "most improved." This is basically the only category that any host can get since all the other ones are pretty much for acting/roles only. Mayanne's win was definitely deserved. She is great at hosting/public speaking.
  • What an interesting year for awards... I wholeheartedly believe that Vincent deserted the BA award. I know some netizens are pissed that Kenneth didn't win but I feel like he was more fit to win MFMC since his character was indeed, likable but wasn't necessarily the best showcase of his potential talent. Kenneth has aced his comedic expressions years ago so this wasn't a wow performance to me. The role of Ma Kwai, I felt was quite similar to his role in Three Kingdoms RPG. That said, TEM was a very entertaining series and definitely underrated. It's also not always all about seniority and I don't think an award should be given (or not given!) just because of the length of their career with TVB. Unfortunately, Louis Cheung is "banned" from TVB because Walking would have been a big contender for MFMC!! Best Actress was definitely a shocker. Don't get me wrong, I do like Natalie Tong but she wasn't a lead in My Unfair Lady. I don't think that Jessica should have won either though (Mall Jeh was an annoying character IMO and I felt that the acting was so-so as her main co-star Frankie Lam was pretty wooden. That said, her scenes with Natalie were great). Best Actress should have gone to Elena Kong for Tiger Mom Blues or honestly, even Grace Wong for Mindhunter. I didn't finish Destination Nowhere but saw a few clips of Kristal's performance, which also seemed BA-worthy as well. Sisley's win for MFFC was a unexpected and I am anticipating all the back lash that the poor girl is going to get. While I think her acceptance speech was very all-over-the-place, it definitely came through as genuine to me. I wasn't a fan of Sisley in the beginning and found her to be pretty annoying but she truly has improved a lot in the past few years and is definitely watchable now! I was touched by her speech because it's true - she DOES have a lot of haters. I do think she was more fit to win Most Improved but competition for that category was actually pretty tough this year. I think Ali should have won MFFC as her portrayal of Paris in MAA was great and likable! Joel's win wasn't surprising but I didn't like My Unholy Alliance so I didn't really continue watching on to be able to make any comments on this. Personally loved Ho Yuen Dong's performance in TEM but had a feeling they wouldn't give it to him. Rebecca Zhu's win for BSA was the MOST SHOCKING. Home girl did not deserve it at all...........sure, she's improved and I find her relatively watchable but damn. I have no words. It should have gone to Mandy Lam for dai siew jeh!!! If not, Moon Lau for TEM (still a shocker that she didn't make top 5??). Matt's win for Most Improved was deserving - he did a lot better in 2017. Looking forward to his 2018 works. Mayanne....you either love her or you hate her and I actually love her! She's crazy, obnoxious, but very real. I wouldn't be upset if Kaman Kong, Moon Lau or Sisley won for this category either though.
  • @kaykay I find that her hurt and dilemma of intruding in the relationship as the best I have seen. It is a tough role. Normally the role is portraying as direct evil husband steal like Kenix Kwok in ‘Born Rich’. Michael Tong who I once tipped to be first lead over a decade ago has seriously improved since his stint in China. The love relationships have been done well in this Heart of Greed. The family bond though is not as strong as the previous series. Only Susanna and Ha Yu of the veterans have kept the standard up supported by Louis Yuen.
  • @jimmyszeto disagree that Sharon Chan is underrated. I find her acting so-so at best, which isn't good considering how long she's been in the industry. I feel like she's had little improvement over the years. I do agree that she and Michael are both very professional in their portrayal though. There are just certain aspects of their interactions that makes me feel uncomfortable. For example, after their first sexual encounter, she asked him the next morning "how was I?" or something along the lines of that and it just came off so awkward and strange. They also made her character transition so abrupt. All of a sudden she stopped dressing conservatively and her glasses disappeared? I dunno, just not sold on it. Even Moon's performance as a third party in Two Steps From Heaven was better.
  • @kaykay @elizabeth They've missed out Chris lai. I wonder why he didn't join the sequel of Heart of greed 3? It's not that I'm against them adding new cast members but without all the original cast members, the drama doesn't feel like Heart of greed anymore.
  • @kaykay Re: Priscilla being the same in every drama she's ever been in -- yes!! Even her clothes are the same baggy pastel coloured clothes!! Also agree with you about enjoying Vincent and Eliza's relationship. I'm looking forward to seeing how they will develop since that's the only real thing to look forward to... Sharon and Michael's affair makes me VERY uncomfortable.
  • Going to have to agree that HOG3 is nowhere near as good as the first two. Michelle Yim, Ha Yu, and and Louise Lee are all wasted here, as their screen time is fairly limited to them eating dinner at home or in a meeting room. Although, I'm not sure that the basis of their characters are even all that different than the previous installments. Echoing @melia880 that Lee Shing Cheong, Susanna Kwan, and Louis Yuen are type casted. And they're ultra annoying. Jacqueline Ch'ng is horrible to watch too. Also hit the nail on the head about Priscilla being exactly the same in every drama she's ever been in. Unrelated but I also think that Pakho is on the same boat (all his movie roles are the same and interchangeable). Aside from the cheese "golden lines," random singing, and very cringeworthy **SPOILER ALERT** affair between Sharon and Michael, the only thing I'm really enjoying is the relationship between Vincent and Eliza.
  • Best Actor: Vincent Wong for Legal Mavericks Yes, many of the cases and story-development were mo-lei-tau and made no sense. Yes, there were plot holes. But, that’s the script’s fault, not Vincent’s. I felt that this was one of his best performances to date and he continues to surprise me with his versatility. He carried the series well and had good chemistry with most of his costars (especially Law Lok Lam, who I will talk more about later on). Vincent and Owen are also a duo I’d like to see again. His chemistry with Ali was a little bland though - but I blame that on the lame character development of Never Wong. Best Actress: Elena Kong for Tiger Mom Blues It’s really been a weak year for the ladies of TVB dramas. Of course, this has nothing to do with their actual acting ability but more to do with how boring the characters have been written to be. Jessica Hsuan is an A+ actress but somehow, writers of Line Walker: The Prelude have managed to make her so irrelevant that I almost forgot she was in the series. Out of this list, Elena Kong had the most interesting and real character. She wasn’t an easy character to like, as her tiger-mama ways were often frustrating to watch. However, it’s that realness of having a character flaw that made her character more life-like. I’ve also quite enjoyed Ali’s performance in My Ages Apart so far. Her chemistry with Moses is great! P.S. How the hell did Jacqueline Wong get the nomination?? Her nomination should have gone to Grace Wong for My Dearly Sinful Mind… Best Supporting Actor: NO ONE ON THE NOMINATED LIST and here’s why I’m sorely disappointed that Law Lok Lam (Legal Mavericks) and Mat Yeung (Bet Hur) didn’t make the cut. Law Lok Lam continues to be one of my favorite green-leaf actors because he has such an extreme range of emotions. He can be “perfect dad,” “evil corporate man,” “demented stock market genius,” and in this case, “ALS patient begging his blind son for forgiveness.” Every Law Lok Lam scene had me in tears and pulled at my heart strings. His portrayal was so realistic and you could tell that he did a ton of research in preparation for the role. As for Mat Yeung, I am glad he got nominated for My Dearly Sinful Mind. However, that was definitely not his best performance of the year, as he was EXCELLENT in Bet Hur. I didn’t actually watch all of Bet Hur since it was a garbage series. But I did catch a few episodes in passing. The scene where he discovered his subordinate’s corpse was done SO well and some of the best acting I’ve ever seen from him. The level of disbelief and denial he expressed gets 2 big thumbs up from me!! Although, I suppose my opinion is extremely biased, as I didn’t actually finish Burning Hands, Destination Nowhere, My Unfair Lady, AGASAAE, The Unholy Alliance, or Line Walker: The Prelude. Brian Tse did well in LW from what I did watch and Mark Ma is great in Come Home Love: Lo and Behold but neither performance is good enough for Best Supporting Actor. Best Supporting Actress: Again, no one on this nominated list. Toby Chan gets some recognition for her somewhat-daring appearance in Legal Mavericks but not BSA-worthy. I’m actually shocked by some of the nominations in general. As someone else noted, Alice Chan showed up in LW for a total of what? 5 minutes? Katy Kung has also only gotten about 15 minutes of total screen time in My Ages Apart so far. Tracy Chu’s performance in Legal Mavericks was a huge letdown in my opinion - especially compared to what I know she’s been capable of. I hear Elaine Yiu put up a good performance in The Unholy Alliance but I didn’t watch enough of it to see. Grace Wong did pretty well in A General, a Scholar, and a Eunuch from the episodes I did watch but was pretty similar to her role in My Dearly Sinful Mind (albeit, a little less psychotic and sociopathic). A bit disappointed that Moon Lau didn’t get the nomination as she definitely outshone Mandy Wong in The Exorcist’s Meter.
  • @kaykay I agree. Grace's role in My Dearly Sinful Mind was scary, sexy, and refreshing. Shame she was so underrated in that series, seems like everyone forgot about it.
  • It's always heartwarming to hear when people find love again. Chan Wing Chun is a great actor and does not get nearly as much recognition as he should. Definitely versatile as he can pull off both nice guy and villain roles.
  • @bubbles23 I agree - Jacqueline's win is way more shocking. The girl just cannot act...Ali is a solid up-and-coming actress but I'm not sure that she deserved the win based on her character from Legal Mavericks. I actually think Ali fared better in her earlier antagonist roles, as they were more interesting. Excited to see her performance in My Ages Apart though! In general, there was weak female character development in most dramas this year. I feel that Elena Kong (Tiger Mom Blues) and Grace Wong (My Dearly Sinful Mind) are the most deserving so far. Based on performances so far this year, I do still hope that Vincent wins BA and Law Lok Lam snags BSA at the main awards this year. Although, it's probably going to be slim chances :( What are your picks for the wins this year??
  • @kaykay Um, yes, absolutely! I was actually thinking the same thing, especially seeing all the promo stuff for the movie here in the U.S. and all the interviews that Jackie Chan has been doing, which honestly makes me want to vomit. Can you believe that in one of the latest interviews, he said something along the lines of seeing how his good friend Will Smith takes time off to accompany his son Jaden with filming has “encouraged” him to be a better father to Jaycee? Um, sorry dude, it’s too late for that (you don’t abandon your kid for 30 years and then all of sudden, be like “oh, daddy will make up for it by showing you some affection from now on”)….add in the Etta situation and there’s basically no turning back for Jackie – his status as a horrible father is already cemented in stone. Oh, and then he went on to basically “blame” his own father (who has been dead for many years) for why he treats Jaycee the way he does, claiming that’s the way his own father treated him so he’s just doing what he was taught to do (what kind of irresponsible comment is that?). One thing that still hasn’t changed is that Jackie Chan can’t avoid putting his foot in his mouth no matter what the topic is.
  • While I'm not the hugest fan of the main casts of LW1 (Raymond, Charmaine, Sharon), I did find myself way more invested in it than in LW2, which I have yet to catch up on. LW2 lacks some charm. It could be that the whole idea of undercover cops has been way overplayed or the fact that they made LW2 way too serious...not sure but I felt the absence of a comic relief. Oscar Leung's Muk Sut and Charmaine's many "moms" balanced out a lot of the intense and otherwise, illogical scenes. In LW2, our only source of humor comes from Benjamin and Priscilla's exchanges (Team Tin Tong+ Jeng Mui FTW). This of course, gets overshadowed by Priscilla and Pakho's boring and bland romance. The other relationships in LW2 are equally dull - Moses and Jessica lack chemistry. Even my undying love for Michael Miu can not make me believe that Cheuk Sir and Scarlet are interesting people. I know that Michael Miu and Jessica can have great chemistry (as evidenced by Dicey Business and Gun Metal Grey) so I blame this 100% on the script. I'm also generally annoyed that Cheuk Sir's romantic storyline in LW2 is this underwhelming, as his relationship with Elena Kong's Katie in LW1 was one of the main highlights for me. I'm on episode 26 so far and can honestly believe that the whole cast got shafted with a horrible script. Character development is pretty much nonexistent, relationships (both mentorship and romantic) lack substance, "twists" were predictable, and this series was generally a waste of talent.
  • Echoing the sentiments of everyone else here. Jackie Chan is despicable. He's definitely talented but he has a horrible track record of being a bad husband and father. This is why I always make it a point to educate my Western and ABC friends whenever they put Jackie on a pedestal. Does anyone else also find it extremely ironic that he's playing a role as a dedicated and vengeful father in The Foreigner?
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