• @peanutbutterjelly @llwy12 I didn't mean to imply that WJ is better than JL. I was just saying WJ didn't want to be compared to JL hence he said this series is more like on of his own films. I said he (WJ) himself saw it a jab to himself. Trust me, I agree that JL is a better influence than WJ.
  • @llwy12 thanks for the update. i can only imagine felix must have had a huge role in producing the show; he fought tooth and nail to broadcast this?!?! must have been a case of, 君子报仇,十年不晚, literally
  • @anon Yea, definitely agree that TVB is playing their marketing game again with using the same name and similar elements for this new series when it has nothing to do with the original supposedly. Typical TVB behavior of course! About the other news -- you’re very welcome! Thought I would share from the source (MP Weekly interview), since it looks like other media outlets are reporting it as a “for sure” that Sheren will be returning when in fact, nothing has been confirmed (both from Chan Po Wah’s side as well as Sheren herself). As for HKTV….from what I last heard, HKTV is still in the same position it was before. Their second license application is technically still pending, though in September of last year, the government did “return” the application back to HKTV claiming that “additional supporting documents” were still needed. Ricky Wong provided all the documents they asked for, though of course he made a big stink about the government “playing games” again, since all the documentation they asked for he already provided previously. There hasn’t really been much “news” on the license front the past few months, though just last week, the outgoing Commerce minister Greg So (who also heads the Communications Authority, which regulates the HK broadcasting industry) revealed on a radio program that he “nearly cried” when HKTV’s license application was rejected back in 2013 (supposedly because it would put several hundred people out of a job). Not sure how many people remember (I know I had mentioned it somewhere but not sure if it was on this forum), but back in 2013, the CA had actually recommended that all 3 companies (i-Cable, NowTV, HKTV) be granted licenses (this was in the official recommendation report they had sent to the CE and Legco), but in the end, only 2 got approved. Sounds like Greg So is finally speaking out in HKTV’s defense now since he is stepping down from his position due to new administration coming in. Meanwhile, Ricky Wong is focusing all his efforts on HKTV Mall, which has been doing extremely well last I heard. Supposedly, he is using the production studio he had built in Tseung Kwan O as the main warehouse/servicing center for the mall. And despite what he has been saying the past 4 years, he has yet to “resume” production of anything – be it TV series or movies – even though the construction work on his studio was completed awhile back ago. With how much the landscape of the TV industry has changed the past few years and HKTVmall doing unexpectedly well, many of us think that RW might finally decide to pull out of the TV license thing altogether if his application gets rejected again. If you’re interested, I posted some updates about HKTV and the television wars on my blog back in February/March/April, so feel free to check there for more details. Which ViuTV series? The one currently airing or the ones that they announced in that press conference a few weeks ago that they plan on filming in the next few months? I actually had a conversation with @jjwong about this very topic in another thread a few weeks back (going back to look for that thread so I don’t have to retype everything here, lol). In general though, ViuTV definitely has potential now that they are switching their focus to producing TV series instead of “factual entertainment” programs, especially given the good reception they’ve gotten to the few series they’ve done so far…however, they are still very far away from being any type of threat to TVB – their return on investment probably won’t come for another couple of years, though it’s good to see that they are finally heading in the right direction after a year of pretty much non-activity. Their series are targeted toward a younger audience and they are actually taking HKTV’s approach in terms of producing series across multiple genres and not being afraid to push the envelope – it’s a refreshing change from TVB’s formulaic stuff, that’s for sure!
  • @llwy12 I agree, I love Roger too, but the rest of the cast is unmatched with the "original" casts, from star-power to acting. It's like they are filming a completely new series, but taking various elements from the At The Threshold of an Era franchise so they can be in a better position to market and draw an audience. It's pity! Thanks for that extra bit about the possibility of Sheren Tang and Francis Ng returning. That is definitely something to look forward to. By the way, any updates with HKTV? What are your views of the new ViuTV series?
  • @ivan @dandan Yup, not to mention that Sunny is still under contract with HKTV (his contract ends some time next year), so no way that he would be able to participate even if TVB were to invite him (which we know they won’t because that’s just the way they are). I agree that it would’ve been great if Gallen could’ve been in this series rather than Provocateur, but it makes sense why he can’t, since he shifted his career to Mainland already and so schedule-wise, it was probably hard to accommodate. To be honest, I’m not looking forward to this one at all. As much as I love Roger, the rest of the cast is pretty weak, especially considering this is supposed to be such a huge production. Tavia has always been a boring actress in my book, Linda is too one-dimensional, and Nikki is a weak actress overall. On the male side of things, I find it ironic that Frankie will be in this (perhaps they couldn’t get Kenix to come back so settled for her husband instead?) and like I mentioned before, he is very much hit and miss as an actor – with that said though, I liked him and Linda together in Forensic Heroes so if they are being paired together here, that would be a highlight. I still don’t like Benjamin’s acting (he has improved but still stiff and unnatural) and not sure how Pakho will do since I haven’t seen any of his acting gigs yet. The only good thing I see so far is that the series will only be 30-something episodes – thank god they didn’t make this 100+ episodes like the original Threshold!
  • Not too excited about this one to be honest. Love Roger but not fond of the rest of the cast, plus I hate when TVB re-hashes old series. Doesn’t matter how they try to sell it, the original Threshold is unmatched – the all-star cast they had is irreplaceable. Even better news (which came out around same time as the one above) is that “golden” scriptwriter Chan Po Wah will be returning to TVB to film 1 series in October and is scouting her friend Sheren Tang as well as Francis Ng to star in it. Now THIS news I am absolutely excited about! Details are in this post: http://llsmusings.blogspot.com/2017/06/breaking-news-scriptwriter-chan-po-wah.html?m=1
  • @llwy12 I wouldn't say Jaime is still as beautiful as ever! Jaime was very pretty back in the '80s, especially the mid 80's. I even liked her more than Idy Chan, Angie Chiu, and Carina Lau. She still looks good for her age now but not that beautiful.
  • @cutie777 @happybi Jamie is still as beautiful as ever! Sure, she gained some weight, but that’s expected after 2 kids, plus she’s no longer part of the industry so it’s not like she has to keep up her figure. And Michael definitely gets more handsome the older he gets (though I would say this is true for many of the 80s artists I grew up watching). At the end of the day though, the important thing is that Michael and Jamie are healthy, happy, and have a loving family. Speaking of which, I’m reminded once again how time flies – their kids Phoebe and Max are already in their mid-20s! Anyway, happy belated birthday to Michael!
  • @jjwong LOL...true, but given Wong Jing's reputation, if I were Jeff Lau, I would be offended at the comparison....
  • @jjwong Yea, TVB is obviously grasping at straws trying to get people to watch their series by comparing to old classics. This is the fourth time in less than a year (that I know of) where TVB (and/or the media) has made reference to some part of a series “paying homage” (aka indirectly copying) to a previous classic, whether movie or TV series. Just a few days ago, Bet Hur got compared to gambling parody movie All For the Winner (and of course we all know that series is essentially a “reboot” of The Shell Game). A few weeks back, the producer of My Unfair Lady compared the ending of that series (the part with Vincent and Natalie separating and “reuniting”) to the romance classic An Autumn’s Tale, claiming once again that they were “paying homage” to that movie because it was one of the producer’s favorite movies (ok so I guess that means Vincent was technically Chow Yun Fat and Natalie was Cherie Chung?). Earlier in the year, the series Burning Hands was compared to yet another classic HK movie, Once A Thief (again starring CYF alongside Leslie Cheung and Cherie Cheung). Sure, I understand that the entertainment industry has been in a “nostalgia” phase this past year, but honestly, this is too much. There are ways to “pay homage” to classics without “remaking” or “rebooting” them….wish TVB would get the picture…. P.S.: The guy next to Rebecca is Shaun Tam. I actually didn’t see the resemblance to Raymond until you pointed out….I think it might just be that picture. I actually think Shaun looks more and more like his dad Tik Lung now that he is older and more mature. Can’t comment a whole lot on his acting yet though, since the last time I saw Shaun in anything was like 15 years ago (when he played Jacky and Anita’s son in the movie July Rhapsody)….I’m sure his acting has matured now but I guess we’ll have to wait and see….
  • @mi88 Yup….we are essentially going to be bombarded with 7 “big productions” during the last quarter of 2017, as TVB chose to commemorate their 50th anniversary through numbers rather than through quality. This also means there is a huge chance that the Anniversary Awards date will be changed once again this year to accommodate all the series that they are planning to cram in. With this in mind, some of TVB management’s decisions this year in terms of lineup make even less sense – knowing they are planning on airing more series than usual due to such a huge milestone, they shouldn’t have wasted time airing Mainland series and “old” series in their primetime slot. TVB never fails to baffle me with some of their decisions…..
  • Oh gawd! I read this news from other sources earlier and was honestly kind of ticked when they tried to compare the series to All About Ah Long (it wasn't just the actors who compared -- the producer of the series came right out and said this will be similar to that classic movie). Geez TVB, come up with your own ideas for once instead of constantly trying to "remake" classic movies with a way inferior cast than the original! Sorry, but Shaun Tam and Rebecca Zhu can't compare to Chow Yun Fat and Sylvia Chang, plus All About Ah Long is such an iconic classic, I hate to see TVB messing with it, even if indirectly. This is another series that I will definitely be skipping!
  • @jjwong Yea...I'm actually kind of surprised Carlos would go back to filming TVB series (or that EEG would let him do it) after he was on such a winning streak with the movie "Happiness" last year (great movie by the way, with memorable performances by both Carlos as well as Kara Hui, who again deservedly won multiple Best Actress awards for the role). It's not like filming a TVB series will help him in any way given he's already established a pretty good path in movies. Worst decision ever if you ask me.... Inviting Patricia Ha to film for TVB of course makes sense, since she was pretty famous back in the day and basically already retired -- though the irony here is that TVB didn't get "first dibs", as Patricia already filmed the next installment of the Margaret and David series for ViuTV (hence the article's "first TVB series" reference -- for once, Oriental Daily actually got it right, lol).
  • @rucofan1100 Yea, mostly semantics -- they can technically say that Time for Love wasn't a "true" TVB full-length drama series, which justifies the "first-time collaboration" comment in the article. Or that they weren’t truly a couple in that series? (I obviously didn’t watch the first or second installments of the series so I have no clue whether this is true or not). Sure, it's a stretch, but not everyone pays attention to these things, which is what these media companies bank on (meaning they know they likely won't get called out on it). This kind of "lazy writing" is one of the reasons why I dislike Oriental Daily – most of their articles are worded this way and if audiences don’t read from other sources or don’t pay attention / scrutinize what they read, they could be easily misled. Of course, Oriental Daily isn’t the only HK media outlet that has this issue, but it’s definitely one of the worst. It’s sad that so few media companies nowadays actually take the time to do their research and make sure they are writing accurate info. The above actually isn’t half as bad as some of the stuff I’ve read over the years where you have “after 90s” and/or “after 2000s” reporters/media people trying to write about things that happened in the industry back in the 70s or 80s and the info is totally wrong...you can tell that the reporters didn't do their research (which would've been necessary especially if the reporters weren't even born yet when those things occurred) – but of course, most people nowadays won’t know the difference so they are able to easily get away with it.
  • @rucofan1100 Well, if it makes you feel better, looks like everyone from TVB's middle management on down don't know why the top brass decided to air Phoenix Rising in that time slot. I read an article today that said the decision was supposedly the result of a "power struggle between Catherine Tsang and Felix To" and so far, every time reporters have brought the issue up in interviews, Felix To would either change the subject or refuse to answer, which of course fuels the rumors even more. TVB's official response when asked about the Phoenix Rising time slot thing was along these lines: they said that Phoenix Rising was one of their "good series left unnoticed in the depths of their warehouse" so it deserved to see the light of day (they used the phrase 滄海遺珠 in Chinese, which literally means "a pearl left behind in the vast ocean"). Of course, this is typical TVB generic non-answer meant to get reporters off their backs...when pressed further, TVB basically said they will no longer respond to anything (whether questions or rumors) related to this issue.
  • @jjwong Yup...that's the way Wong Jing has always been...that's why he never gets any recognition in terms of awards in the movie industry. His stuff is formulaic and he's best at rehashing old storylines, scripts, plots, etc. -- this is well-known in the industry. If it weren't for his plethora of connections in the industry (though many of those connections were due to his famous father), he wouldn't have been able to get as far as he has all these years. China loves him because he kowtows to them -- he's a big Mainland advocate and actually writes all his scripts with a Mainland bias. I honestly don't even know why they are calling Bet Hur a HK series because technically it's not....just like his last movie From Vegas to Macau, the script was deliberately written for Mainland audiences....
  • @llwy12 please if you ever find out why tvb decided to broadcast phoenix rising, update me pls!!!!! there is no greater mystery; forget where humans came from, loch ness monster, or atlantis ---- pls i must know why dafuq they decided to release that garbage! so much warehoused and unreleased material and they broadcast that?!?!?! in primetime?!?!?!
  • Since this is Wong Jing after all, I'm not expecting much in terms of quality or creativity. The only reason I will consider watching this series is to see the boatload of veteran actors and actresses that Wong Jing was able to get to participate in this series (mostly as guest stars), especially those he was able to pull out of retirement and those who already shifted their careers elsewhere. It will be nice to see those veterans onscreen again, even if only for a few short moments.
  • @jjwong You mean HKTV’s Nightshift that starred Dominic Lam and Frankie Lam (that’s the series that was filmed entirely at night)? That wasn’t supernatural (except for the ending, which I personally thought was stupid…the series itself was not bad but the ending was hugely disappointing, though I cut them some slack knowing the story behind why they did the ending that way). Doom+5 had supernatural elements too (it was kind of the premise of the series) but it wasn’t heavy stuff, plus only 5 episodes so it was fine. The HKTV series I didn’t watch (despite the awesome cast) was Karma, since it was full on horror series. Detective Psycho is more of a supernatural cop series with some horror elements to it. Joman Chiang plays a cop (again, lol) and David Siu plays a Maoshan master / geomancer guy (sorry, not familiar with the terminology in English) tasked with hunting out and getting rid of the ghosts and spirits wreaking havoc in people’s lives. Some of it is based on real events and some of it isn’t. Supposedly some of the cast did encounter some “situations” when filming, which is why they have a real-life Maoshan master accompanying them on set during filming (he serves as consultant and also can “step in” if needed). Yea…non-TVB stuff a lot of times is covered negatively by mainstream media because at the end of the day, they all have their biases. Social media does help though, as a lot of times mainstream media doesn’t pick up on things until it becomes a “sensation” on a smaller forum….which is essentially what happened with Detective Psycho -- the traditional free TV ratings suck but internet hits are off the charts supposedly and feedback from audiences have been largely positive (lucky for them ViuTV management doesn’t care much about actual TV ratings – unlike at TVB…)….so now some of the mainstream media outlets are covering it more…. Yup, I hear you about not enjoying much from TVB (and HK in general) as of late…not interested in any of the new series currently being filmed either. I’m waiting for ViuTV to announce the details on their upcoming 10 series….looks like they are taking HKTV’s route in exploring different genres (so far, I heard there is a musical in the works and also a sci-fi themed one based on an internet novel)…hopefully something good will come out of that lot….
  • @llwy12 I'm intrigued with this series now lol. Didn't you watch or like the HKTV that filmed all at night? That's kinda supernatural. Idk, it just seems like other than TVB, media doesn't treat or give as much attention. Sure, things can explode on social media but that doesn't seem to do any good. So many praises for HKTV series and I mostly saw negatively covered by mainstream. Eh, then again, I'm not from HK nor keep up daily so it's probably not true. I really hope ViuTV does well and goves TVB a run for their money and HK peeps accept changes. Like most, I have yet really really enjoy anything from TVB or HK as of late. Sad.
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