• @elizabeth I’m definitely with you! I’m not sure what part of “freelance artist” TVB doesn’t understand, but management is obviously messed up in the head when they feel the need to “freeze” an artist (Power Chan) who isn’t even contracted to them! (though ok, I guess they've been messed up in the head for awhile already, since this isn't the first time they've done something like this). And they wonder why they’ve gotten so much criticism in recent years! Well, if they would stop making stupid moves for once and do something that’s constructive and actually MAKES SENSE, then maybe, just maybe, people would start respecting them again. I won’t be watching Justice Pao (partly because of the Power thing but also because I have no interest in watching a silly comedic reboot of a legendary franchise), but you bet I’ll be watching the ViuTV series that Power filmed, lol!
  • @llwy12 I am boycotting this version in protest of TVB freezing Power Chan and kicking him out of the project.
  • @llwy12 They've missed out Chris lai. I wonder why he didn't join the sequel of Heart of greed 3? It's not that I'm against them adding new cast members but without all the original cast members, the drama doesn't feel like Heart of greed anymore.
  • Lau Ka Ho did an interview with Ming Pao today where he responds to some of the criticisms towards the series, especially the part about the recycled storyline and characters. He basically stated that they (meaning him, production team, TVB) could’ve gone with trying something new if they had wanted to, as it’s not like they don’t have the ability to do so, but he insists that’s not what the audiences wanted (he made the assertion that “deliberately striving for something new and different is not necessarily a good thing” – this is a direct quote from him in that interview). He said that it was obvious to them based on the popularity and success of HOG 1 and 2 that audiences wanted the familiarity of the first two installments and that they are merely putting into HOG 3 the same elements that audiences liked in HOG 1 and 2 (family arguing/infighting and reconciling, fighting over inheritance, etc.). He said this was further confirmed when he and his wife returned to TVB and had mentioned they wanted to do HOG 3, the reaction from friends and colleagues was overwhelmingly positive, with everyone saying that it was a great idea and that they had been waiting a long time for it. Basically, he insists that he clearly understands what audiences want and with HOG 3, he gave them exactly what they wanted. As for the whole “golden phrases/lines” thing feeling forced and unnatural this time around, LKH said that from the beginning, even with the first 2 installments, they had never deliberately said those were golden phrases. It was the audiences who dubbed the dialogue as “golden phrases” due to how much they were able to relate to what the characters were saying in the scenes. He said golden phrases or not, the most important thing was using those lines accurately and at the appropriate moments in the series. Based on the above, you guys can formulate your opinion however you wish. Personally though, I think the piece about using recycled storylines and characters because “that’s what the audiences want” is a load of crap. LKH is obviously still of the old mentality where the thinking is that TVB’s target audience is and always will be see lais (housewives) who like to spend their free time reading gossip mags and watching mindless soap operas on TV — they don’t want to watch anything that requires them to think and so script, aesthetics, quality of production, etc, none of that matters as long as it’s something housewives can relate to. It’s this kind of antiquated thinking that leads TVB to continue churning out the same types of series over and over and over again. This kind of brings me back to something that came up several years ago back at the height of the television wars between TVB and HKTV. It came to light back then that TVB had stopped doing audience surveys decades ago and therefore had lost touch with the newer generation of audiences who didn’t necessarily have the same “criteria” for series that previous audiences did. Back then, TVB justified not doing the surveys by claiming that their target audience continues to be housewives and they already know what they want (versus HKTV, who not only did plenty of audience surveys, they also conducted focus groups with audience participation, even making changes and tweaking their series with audience feedback in mind, in the hopes that their series would be advise close as possible to what audiences truly wanted to see). As for the golden phrases thing – I will give LKH credit for that, as what he said is true to some extent, as a lot of times, the screenwriters/producers don’t deliberately say “oh, let’s put this line in here because it will surely become a golden line”….ultimately, it’s how audiences respond to the dialogue that makes it a “golden phrase/line” (though of course the media hyping it up also helps too).
  • @funnlim Well, one reason is probably because they don't have enough artists to feature in the calendar anymore (um, they even had to put Wu Fung and Law Lan in there this year -- not that I'm complaining since I love both of them, but if we look at the few months that actually had artists in them, majority of them are supporting artists with only a handful of leads). Another reason is probably because they did a crappy job with the pictures the recent few years when they did feature artists on them (the artists all looked like plastic play pieces in the last calendar...there was also that one year where they hired that famous designer guy to do all the makeup and all the artists ended up looking like gangsters). Another reason (and the most likely one) is that TVB is cheap and figured putting the posters in there is the safest, fastest, and cheapest route to go for the calendars. It's kind of funny because I know a few people from TVB's distributor overseas and they told me that in the past, the calendars were a hot commodity, with everyone clamoring to get one through any means possible (heck I used to collect them too, since they would save me one every year)...the past couple years though, they would try to give the calendars away for free but very few people wanted them (especially after TVB switched to putting the posters in) -- oftentimes they ended up recycling the many boxes of leftover calendars that they still had in their warehouse.
  • @llwy12 oh okay thanks no wonder I don’t really know who he is since I don’t really watching movies I usually watched tvb dramas the most if I have free time.
  • @llwy12 THAT was funny! I laughed a lot during that scene. For all its faults, My Ages Apart have some genuine comedic moments.
  • @llwy12 I’m afraid that all the old veterans seem to have aged a lot. Could tell that Louise Lee has to use a lot of effort to be upbeat with her lines due to her poor health. This will be the last time the cast will act together. Still very watchable compared to the series we get nowadays but not as natural acting as the earlier instalments.
  • @jimmyszeto My guess is that everyone accepted the invite to film the series because of the producer. Back when Lau Ka Ho and Mui Siu Ching returned to TVB and announced that they would be doing HOG 3 and BTROC 2, everyone clamored to get themselves into the series thinking this was a tried and true formula that for sure audiences would love. I remember the welcoming back party that they had where all the artists were like if LKH tells me to participate, I’ll do it, no questions asked. Personally, I feel it’s dumb for artists to blindly accept filming offers based solely off of ties to the producer, but unfortunately, that’s alot of times how things work in HK. Also agree that TVB is being lazy again here and going with same old same old rather than actually putting thought and effort into what they are doing for once…
  • @funnlim This article is from on.cc so I’m not surprised – I’ve never liked the way they write their articles. The mainstream media in general rarely does a good job covering details in series…they basically cover surface level stuff, the “heavy hitting” topics that (they think) will attract the most eyeballs (usually related to sex and relationships and gossip). In comparisons, HK01 actually did a few really good articles on the series – I read one today recapping that scene where Louis Cheung takes his cable box to the cable company attempting to cancel his contract and has to go through hell and back (and still can’t cancel his contract, lol)…the scene is actually an extremely funny (and clever) parody of a real-life event that happened at i-Cable…I’m sure quite a few HK cable subscribers chuckled when they saw that scene.
  • @funnlim Yup...and what would be worse is for TUA to sweep all the awards and be the biggest winner of the night (unlikely but not impossible, since at the end of the day, it’s up to TVB who they want to give the awards to). All I know is that if TUA sweeps the awards, it’s almost guaranteed that we will be seeing part 3 with the same cast some time in the not so distant future....
  • @funnlim Exactly! The whole premise of the series just sounds silly. Besides, I hate it when TVB messes with classic series (in this case, the Ti Lung version of Justice Pao from 20+ years ago) and rolls out a hugely mediocre reboot. Definite skip!
  • @llwy12 By that age Justice Pao probably already married. No love story. He's into justice and all. not gonna watch.
  • @llwy12 Thanks a lot for the info. If that's the case, then this series is not that appealing anymore (at least to me) since the focus is on the romantic storyline, which sounds boring to me. @cutie777 I also have not heard of Shaun Tam until when i read news about him co-starring with Ruco in Succession War. Justice Pao is his second TVB series...i think TVB may want to promote him as one of their leading actors.
  • @cutie777 No, Shaun Tam isn’t a Mainland actor. He is an HK movie actor and actually has about 17 or 18 years of experience in the industry. This is his first time filming for TVB but he’s definitely not a newbie actor – he has filmed countless movies and TV series (Taiwanese series and also in HK, series for RTHK) over the years. With that said though, it’s not surprising that you may not have heard of him, as most of his previous roles, whether in movies or TV series, weren’t major (a few lead roles but mostly supporting). Shaun is actually more “famous” for being veteran actor Ti Lung’s son (he doesn’t flaunt it himself but the media loves to bring it up). I think those of you who plan on watching this series will need to push aside all previous “understanding” of Justice Pao because this series is obviously not going to be in the same vein. It’s a comedy first of all, so that’s already a huge difference, but also this is about Pao in his youth (hence the explanation for the younger actors). If we’re talking about Justice Pao as we’re used to seeing him depicted, then yea, actors like Bobby or Evergreen would be a better fit, but obviously that’s not the objective here with this series. Oh and don’t expect historical accuracy because this is TVB after all – they aren’t exactly known for being “accurate” with their historical series.
  • @tiffany Yup...and the other thing to consider too is that with TVB's recent trend of collaborating with Mainland China platforms such as Tencent, Youku, iQiyi, etc. in broadcasting their dramas, they basically shot their chances at getting decent ratings in HK, since they are obligated to allow Mainland audiences to watch the series first. Part of the reason why Line Walker's ratings in HK were so low was because they put 10 episodes up at a time for Mainland audiences (versus 1 episode a day for HK audiences), so HK audiences who didn't want to wait could just watch the Mainland version online and not bother with the HK version (whether on TV or online). Basically, this will be the modus operandi going forward for any and all TVB co-productions with Mainland China. I'm not sure if the above numbers are the cross-platform ratings (which counts both TV and online) or just the TV ones. If it's cross-platform, then yea, the ratings are truly pathetic if the highest they can get with all platforms combined is 28 points...
  • @diana80 Because the focus in this version of Justice Pao is on the romantic relationships rather than the cases. Shaun Tam plays Pao in his youth and will have a romantic storyline with Nancy, who in turn will be romantically linked to Raymond Cho's Gongsun Ce (a role originally slated for Power Chan). Oh and no doubt there is a "gimmick" factor at play here with Shaun Tam being the son of Ti Lung, who famously played Justice Pao in the previous TVB version from the 90s (already this little fact is being used in the promotion of the series by TVB). Though to your point, supposedly this version of Justice Pao will be a comedy rather than the traditional serious drama of past versions, so yea, why not cast someone like Bobby who is guaranteed to make audiences laugh? Better that than some silly parody of Justice Pao by the younger generation....
  • @llwy12 or China investment factor? They need a China actress?
  • @bubbletea On the other side of the coin, there’s also LYF’s reputation for being “box office poison” since all of her past movies tanked. So looks like this could go one of two ways: either Disney helps raise her out of “box office poison” status and propels her to super stardom or she drags the movie down with her. My guess is that it will be the former, since this is Disney after all, so there will be a guaranteed audience to some extent... Btw, regarding the discussion about whether the actress bears a resemblance to Mulan — supposedly one of the other actresses who “auditioned” for the role (one of the 1000 candidates) was British-Taiwanese actress Judy Hu Ting Ting whom people say actually looks like Mulan (I’m assuming they mean the original Disney animated version of Mulan)...she also has experience filming in Hollywood (she was in one of the Bridget Jones movies and a bunch of other smaller films), but Disney picked LYF over her, I’m assuming because of the star quality piece (since all her roles were minor in the films she was in). Maybe Disney isn’t really looking for someone who can act...either that or they aren’t aware of the fact that LYF isn’t a good actress. Like the rest of Hollywood, Disney most likely doesn’t have much in depth knowledge of the Chinese entertainment industry...
  • @llwy12 I am not too impressed with LYF's acting skills, but who knows, she might pleasantly surprise us with this live adaptation of Mulan. Based on the required criteria for the film, her ability to speak english and her martial arts skills are spot on. Her acting skills, however, does leave a lot to be desired. It is great to see a chinese born chinese actress getting the coveted role in a Hollywood made film. It is a step up the ladder for chinese artists. i too agree that Brenda Song would have made a good Mulan. She was born in the States, but is of chinese heritage, she speaks english and has a black belt in taekwondo, not to mention, she has the dark skin that is in sync with the original Mulan character from the Disney adaptation of the film.
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