• @lyu310 I remember the Super Trio show! It lasted for awhile. @llwy12 The Yang's Saga is a classic! TVB put in work back then producing quality telemovies. Now...I don't even know.
  • @lyu310 Yea, I agree…I actually love all of the Telling Maria episodes so far except for the Ada and Moses one, which I actually didn’t watch (since I don’t really care for either artist or any of the series they collaborated in). I enjoyed the Eric/Lawrence/Nat episode as well and was nearly in tears when they started talking about Lydia Shum. I think the funniest episode so far was the FOJ one (Bobby/Michael/William) and the most profound one was Wayne/Sheren episode. If you haven’t watched the 3 Tigers one, definitely try to get to it soon – it was awesome! Most of the stuff they talked about I already knew from past interviews, but it was still a lot of fun seeing the 3 of them being interviewed together – especially Michael and Felix (a “bromance” that I’ve shipped since the 80s, lol), whom we don’t get much opportunity to see together nowadays on television (though thank goodness they still collaborate quite frequently in movies). They talked about their days in Acting Class, which was hilarious -- Kent always choosing to sit in the back so he could sleep and also study his horse racing guide, Felix getting in trouble with his teachers because he was courting his future wife at the time and got called out on it, both Felix and Michael arriving to class in short shorts due to having just finished a game of soccer and their teacher yelling at them for wearing stuff like that. Also all the memories of them fighting for “sleeping space” in the bathrooms and closets at TVB studios (back when the studio was located on Broadcast Drive in the 80s.... Bobby Au Yeung had actually talked about the same thing on his episode)…memories of filming The Bund together with Chow Yun Fat (Kent was already in a supporting role while both Michael and Felix were still newbies playing kelefes) and how scared they were because Fat Gor was already a huge star but also how much they learned from him. Also Felix recounting his time filming The Lonely Hunter (the series that first put his name on the map) with Dodo Cheng and how she threw his script away the first day and after that he never walked into the studio again without having his lines fully memorized. I also loved the part where they talked about all the other senior artists they had collaborated with (i.e. Kwan Hoi San, Tang Bik Wan, Wong Sun, all of whom left us many years ago, plus other seniors still active today such as Lau Dan, Chun Wong, Kenneth Tsang, etc) and all the things they learned from them and also how grateful they are to have had the chance to work with those artists because they wouldn’t be who they are today without them (so true…and therein lies the difference with why current generation of artists aren’t as successful – many of them don’t show the same appreciation and respect for the senior artists that the older generation did). It was funny when they made Felix recount the TVB series he had filmed and he only counted a handful because there were too many to remember, lol (he actually forgot to mention one of his most popular series, Solider of Fortune, until Kent reminded him, since that series was one of Kent's most representative works, lol). The most poignant moment of course was when they talked about Barbara Yung – their memories of her and their reactions to her death 32 years ago….Kent actually handled the questions pretty well considering he was the one most impacted. I miss the old days too (ok, technically I’ve been “missing the old days” for the past 20 years already, lol). Yea, I agree that it’s probably both nostalgia and the fact that the artists and the series were so much better back then – on a larger scale though, it was also because that time period (80s/early 90s) was truly the HK entertainment industry’s “glory days” where all disciplines (television, movies, music, etc.) were strong. Michael and Felix joked about how the 5 Tigers dominated TVB in the 1980s pretty much (which is true of course) but the industry was also different back then in that the attitude was better and everyone was more united. They talked a lot about filming The Yang’s Saga and being able to bring all of TVB’s artists together to participate in a series for a common cause, something that will never happen in today’s TVB world. As I said before, the current generation artists really should watch these interviews, as they can learn so much from hearing all these veterans recount their experiences.
  • @llwy12 Speaking of Telling Maria, I also recently discovered it and watched the first 4 episodes in one go! I loved them all, especially the episodes with the MCs Lawrence, Eric, Nat (I watched Ms HK and Super Trio growing up), Ada and Moses, and the File of Justice trio (lovedd the series). It really takes me back; I really miss the old days. Not sure if it has to do with nostalgia or just the fact that the actors and dramas were just better back then. Probably both. Loved the friends who commented on the guests, and the old clips they showed, particularly the part where Eric Tsang talked about Fei Fei (rip).
  • @llwy12 Should have been Ada and Lawrence Ng lol I miss the FOJ group!
  • @linvin8 Ah, ok…makes sense! (I should've noticed the CRHK radio logo in the picture's background...which reminds me that I need to catch up on listening to radio interviews -- got a long list that I'm behind on). I actually would be surprised if TVB didn’t have them record an episode of Telling Maria as well…most likely they will but TVB won’t air it until closer to their series coming out…after all, TVB needs every bit of “free promo” they can get right now….
  • @llwy12 This specific interview was for Steven's radio talkshow (he's done several with guests such as Nancy Wu and Ms Lok). But yes, perhaps since Linda's in town for some time TVB might have done a Telling Maria episode.
  • My guess is that this is probably for one of the Telling Maria episodes (for the latest season of her interview show, she has been inviting “best on-screen partners” to discuss their collaborations). The latest episode that aired this past weekend (episode 5, which aired yesterday) featured 3 of the 5 Tigers (Michael Miu, Felix Wong, Kent Tong – technically 4 Tigers if you count Andy Lau’s multiple video clips, lol….I watched it last night and was in TVB 80s nostalgia heaven!) I’ve been “chasing” the show (pretty much the only TVB program I’m watching nowadays) since it started last month and so far, the partnerships they’ve had are truly classics (episode 1 was Wayne Lai and Sheren Tang, episode 2 was Eric Tsang, Lawrence Cheng, Nat Chan, episode 3 was Bobby AuYeung, Michael Tao, William So, episode 4 was Moses Chan and Ada Choi, and episode 5 was the 3 Tigers). Can’t wait to see who they will feature on the next episode! Of course I could be wrong and this might end up being for some random Big Big Channel thing (since TVB has been heavily promoting the channel recently) but it’s kind of hard for me to believe TVB won’t take advantage of the opportunity to have Steven and Linda do a longer interview. They actually did the same thing with Wayne and Sheren last month – they did a mini interview for Big Big Channel, then an extended version for the first episode of Telling Maria.
  • @jimmyszeto Great to hear, jimmy! OCTB is a great series and the more I read about the creative team behind the series, the more impressed I am (plus the more willing I am to support them). There's actually been quite a few updates about OCTB the past few weeks, including confirmation of a sequel in the works (not surprising since viewership numbers in Mainland have exceed 800 million mark already) and some more veterans joining the sequel (I read most of the spoilers for OCTB already so pretty much already know what will happen to most of the characters but of course will keep it to myself, lol). Since I know several people chasing this series, I decided to put up a few posts about the series on my personal blog so people who would like to discuss the series can do it there. I just put up the latest blog post about the veteran artists in the series, so you guys may want to check it out if you're interested: https://llsmusings.blogspot.com/2017/10/hk-web-series-octb-reunion-of-hk-film.html
  • @anon tagging you again about the newest post on my blog about OCTB, just in case, lol....
  • @lileric @diana80 @ivan @elizabeth FYI on the above (my response to jimmy about my blog) in case you're interested in more information about OCTB (sorry for only telling you know when the series is almost over, lol...I tried tagging you guys earlier but my comments kept going into "awaiting moderation")...
  • @jimmyszeto Great to hear, jimmy! OCTB is a great series and the more I read about the creative team behind the series, the more impressed I am (plus the more willing I am to support them). There's actually been quite a few updates about OCTB the past few weeks, including confirmation of a sequel in the works (not surprising since viewership numbers in Mainland have exceed 800 million mark already) and some more veterans joining the sequel (I read most of the spoilers for OCTB already so pretty much already know what will happen to most of the characters but of course will keep it to myself, lol). Since I know several people chasing this series, I decided to put up a few posts about the series on my personal blog so people who would like to discuss the series can do it there. I just put up the latest blog post about the veteran artists in the series, so you guys may want to check it out if you're interested: https://llsmusings.blogspot.com/2017/10/hk-web-series-octb-reunion-of-hk-film.html
  • @llwy12 As I am watching more episodes of OCTB 2017, I am becoming more and more impressed. There’s no bs. The crew have set out and did exactly what they had wanted to do. That is to produce a revolutional series but also bring back the old times. Most of the actors chosen are proven fantastic veterans. Blended in are a few solid up and comers and the chemistry has been brilliant due to the cast already being good friends. The script is simple,the acting is clean, scenes are acted out brilliantly with ease and it shows that a great plot is not needed to produce a good series. Good acting and chemistry is enough to pull off a gem of a series. I think OCTB has changed the landscape of Hong Kong Filming. A benchmark has been set and there will be a lot more solid web series developed in the near future. If it is lucrative I fear for TVB. Unless TVB pays higher wages and produce their own web series, all the best support actors will eventually to participate in the web series boom.
  • @tiffany I didn’t feel they were compatible either but like I said above (in my long-winded manifesto, lol), it’s the “message” of them being a compatible on-screen (and possibly off-screen) couple that they were trying to sell and both the media as well as general audiences bought into it, so that’s what counts (whether they truly were together or not doesn’t really matter). In that context, unfortunately for Ruco, the whole situation was definitely handled poorly….
  • @rucofan1100 First, just to be clear, I am neither a fan of Ruco’s nor a hater. I've enjoyed some of his series in the past and even though I agree with a few others here that his acting isn't what it once was and he's obviously lost his passion for the craft, he's still a better actor than most of the current crop of TVB actors (not including the veterans of course) -- that's a fact that I don't think anyone is trying to deny. Like jimmy said, my “soft spot” is for the veteran artists who I grew up watching back in the 80s – my interest in the “current” (more like post-2000s) generation of TVB artists is mostly the result of seeing them in TVB shows and also coverage in general HK entertainment-related news, so I tend to take a more neutral position and try as much as possible to look at the “facts” (using that word loosely of course) as they are presented and consider both sides. Looking at this objectively (the whole fan thing aside) – to me, Ruco did more than merely “embarrass” Nancy…regardless of whether they were ever together or not in real life (I personally don’t think they ever dated either to be honest), the one thing that’s for sure is that they were played up big-time as an “on screen couple” (not just collaborating in series, but also having a duet together, plus all the promo stuff and other events outside of that)…to the media and general audiences, the "message" that was very clearly sent was that there was “something” between the two of them, exacerbated by the fact that both were single and also neither one of them bothered to clarify things (again, whether they were truly together or not is irrelevant). Ruco has been in the industry long enough to know how things work (and even if he didn’t, just take a look around and he wouldn’t be short of examples from his fellow colleagues) – knowing what the public reaction would be given the popularity of their pairing (and even if they weren’t “lovers,” they were ”friends” at minimum, definitely one step above “colleague”) plus it was obvious they were still “making money” off the pairing, how hard would it have been for Ruco to give Nancy a heads-up as soon as he and Phoebe started dating so that she could’ve prepared herself for the media onslaught? As much as it may be hard to believe, the situation didn’t have to play out in the media the way it did – with just a little bit of sensitivity on Ruco’s part, the situation could’ve been resolved more tactfully with no harm done to any party. Yes, he did make mistakes with the way he handled things and no, we aren’t saying that he should be a saint but at the same time, it's hard to fault Nancy’s fans for being pissed at his insensitivity toward Nancy and coming across now as though he was “using” her previously to boost his own popularity. I don’t know how accurate the above article is (it’s from on.cc, a media outlet whose credibility I question), but if Ruco truly did answer the way the article described – about wanting to collaborate with Nancy again and trying to draw parallels to “classic” on-screen couples (which honestly is a bad comparison because their situations were nothing like his) – it kind of looks to me that he is either completely oblivious to what he did or he is giving the media lip service to get them off his back. Lastly, the piece about being a celebrity and having to answer questions from reporters and he’s just an ordinary guy like everyone else – yes, there are definitely limits to what the media should and shouldn’t be allowed to do or who they should/shouldn’t be allowed to bother (i.e. non-industry people such as family and relatives and children should absolutely be off-limits) and yes I’m all for celebrities being able to maintain their privacy -- however the reality is that he is a celebrity who is popular and currently active in the industry – as much as he may hate it, the media is going to pry into his love life and ask difficult questions because that’s what they do – it’s part of their jobs. As with all public figures, there will always be a certain expectation out there that celebrities, especially ones who are still active, need to be mindful of the fact that what they say and what they do will be judged and scrutinized by the media / general public, whether they like it or not…anyone who works in the industry knows that and if they can’t (or don’t want to) deal with it, then maybe they should consider whether a career in show business is right for them. There have been numerous celebrities in the past who left the industry because they couldn’t deal with the media scrutiny or made the conscious decision that this type of career wasn’t right for them – nothing wrong with that at all. But if you choose to stay active in the industry, then you need to be prepared for the “baggage” that comes with it and also learn to deal with it....
  • @passingby It’s true that me and @llwy12 have a soft spot for the old time actors but we have watched countless series so can determine of scenes are acted well or not.The main thing is that we do not have the baggage of having current TVB idols that blind our opinions. However the current fans are blindly loving their idols every move, every word. Could describe it as a fantasy crush. They even willing to trash other opponents achievements.Vincent Wong is the victim this time. He’s even accused of been favourably given a ‘tailor made’ blind lawyer role.
  • @llwy12 Is there really tension between Ruco and Nancy? There were a lot of rumors last year after AFWFW. Nancy's group of friends even suggested for Ruco to court her. Well...that didn't go through. I never thought the two were compatible off screen.
  • @jadio Nah…Kent doesn’t have that much pull with TVB anymore. If anything, it’s because TVB is severely lacking in talent right now so they are plucking the ones with potential (or who already have some amount of affinity/familiarity with audiences) from their current crop of up-and-comers and sticking them in lead roles. I actually think Roxanne is a good choice to groom as lead, as her performances so far have been pretty decent as far as newbies go (probably because acting runs in her family, since both her dad and her uncle were known actors back in the day). As for Joey Law…all I’m going to say is – Joey who?? He definitely needs to up his profile, otherwise he’s going to have a hard time (especially from the relentless HK media) given Roxanne is currently at a higher level than him….unfortunately, that’s how the industry (and the HK media) works…
  • @elizabeth I don’t think people’s negativity toward Ruco is due to him dating someone….rather, it’s more that people are disappointed with the way he handled the whole situation and the mess he made of things. Yes true, celebrities are “selling” a certain image and perhaps he couldn’t say anything about him dating Phoebe due to his (or his company’s) desire to continue taking advantage of the pairing with Nancy (which btw, is not under contract – TVB is not dumb enough to put that kind of stuff in the contract because they know they can get in trouble for it….it’s more of an “unwritten understanding” type deal)….but there was really no need to say what he did when his relationship with Phoebe was exposed. I’m not a fan of either artist but I can totally understand why Nancy’s fans would be pissed at him because the way he answered definitely put Nancy in a bad light – she actually responded to the whole thing with grace given the awkward position she was placed in, which gave her brownie points in my book. Anyway….is it just me or does it seem like many of the male celebrities seem to have issues dealing with this relationship stuff in the public eye? The Ruco/Nancy/Phoebe thing kind of reminds me of the Moses/Bernice/Aimee thing several years back (remember how Moses totally botched his handling of that relationship as well) – the difference being of course that Bernice’s career and reputation never recovered whereas Nancy’s grew stronger (though probably helps that she has so many friends standing behind her). The most recent example along the same lines (messy handling of their relationship being “outed”) was Fred Cheng and Stephanie Ho -- the way Fred handled things made me lose some respect for him, though I guess the excuse could be made that he’s less experienced in dealing with this kind of stuff with the media...but still….
  • @anon @jjwong I finally wrote up a post about OCTB on my blog..feel free to discuss over there if you'd like: https://llsmusings.blogspot.com/2017/10/hk-web-series-octb.html?m=0
  • @anon Yup…some media outlets are calling the person who reported the series as someone with “malicious intentions”….I tend to agree in this case. The good news is that the production company reacted quickly and was able to get it all worked out almost immediately. Further news today is that OCTB already surpassed the 300 million viewership mark and it is rumored that the production team is already planning season 2 -- the script is already being written, main players will be the same but with different supporting cast…most important of all though, they are willing to throw double the amount of money into the production, with costs estimated to range between $100 to $200 million HKD (the first season took $60 million HKD to make). Justin Cheung (he plays the main villain in the series) said that season 2 plans aren’t confirmed yet, as the process is a little different with web series than traditional series – with web series, they need to look at the viewership numbers (i.e. the number of “hits” or “real-time playback”) and determine whether there will be return on investment, which plays a huge role in the amount of money investors are willing to put in….the higher the viewership, the more likely that investors are willing to front larger sum of money for them to make season 2. So basically, the more people who watch the series, the better….
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