• @peanutbutterjelly Also maybe you should avoid using swear words in your posts before asking why your posts aren’t showing? I can understand your anger and frustration though. I’m a male so won’t dwell on it as much but a series is poor unless everything is logical and each scene makes sense.
  • @peanutbutterjelly Oh cmon...Everyone loved that cheeky, shy grin and apology by the ‘head villager/rapist/murderer/extortionist’ or whatever you would like to call him. All the villagers including his son and the women loved that cheeky grin. It was beautiful :p
  • @jayne why did my comment not show?
  • Worst TVB drama in recent memories. In retrospect I should’ve seen this coming, the first episode warned me this much. When Grace’s character tripped during one of her first scenes ever, her husband dashes in heroically and saved her. That one scene already set the tone for the kind of drama this will be and I was too blind to see it. In the end I only have myself to blame. But still, I did not deserve this. No one did. This show is garbage, the ending a slap in my face and everything is pain. I hate, hate, hate, hate, HATE this show. Did I mention I hate this show yet? But why, you ask, the anger and frustration? Isn’t ‘bad’ just standard for TVB nowadays? Because it wasted my time. I wanted to, at bare minimum, like it. It promised something but not only did it not deliver it downright BETRAYED me. Because of the lack of nuance, narrative inconsistency and amount of eyerolling it managed to extract from me during my viewing sessions, two-third into this show I already gave up on the hope that it would be fulfil its promises and turn into something amazing but I hoped that it would at least be adequate or thematically faithful. I should’ve known I was asking too much. Instead the ending just downright poisoned any glimpses of acceptability the show had offered in past episodes. When everyone was being all ‘oh you’ and teasingly coercing him to apologise sitcom-style and he managed to utter ‘sorry’ with a self-congratulatory grin as if he just overcooked a chicken instead of committing rape and murder, that’s where I flipped the table. I wanted to laugh. And scream. And throw my TV out the window. No no no no NO . You do NOT get to be ‘a good guy who’s just stuck in his old ways’ and act cute at the end and get away with an apology just because you’re related to the male protagonist NO JUST FUCKING NO. Anyone remember 2 episodes ago he wanted to burn four women alive? ANYONE? I want retribution and revenge. Not ‘Woopsie daisy, I guess women are capable of something guess we were wrong haha sorry our bad.’ I was promised cunning resistance and female empowerment, not an entire female cast getting sidelined at the climax of the story.
  • @funnlim I wish Raymond's character actually cut his dad's arm off. The last villain feels like a cop out from TVB because they don't want to make the dad evil... Which he already is in my eyes.
  • Jeannie's character would be rolling over in her grave if she actually had a body left.
  • @jimmyszeto Completely agreed. From a narrative and thematic perspective he is the true villain and embodiment of the patriarchy of the show and should die in a fire. Yet we get a surprise antagonist the last goddamn minute and the fact that he tried to burn four women alive just two episodes ago got swept under the rug? What kind of nonsense is that? Seriously, the more I think about this show the angrier I get.
  • @peanutbutterjelly I agree with you and I haven't seen Bet Hur. But I do like the last episode. I like to see the main villain arriving and punished everyone. That's equality.
  • @peanutbutterjelly You are totally right. All cute baby photos are done completely by Photoshop. The baby is surely supported by his/her parents and then editing is done after the photos are taken. This type of baby photos is very popular in North America. Of course, they are done by professional baby photographers.
  • @peanutbutterjelly but still aren’t they afraid it will hurt the baby body or bones because newborn baby might be weak? If I ever have kid I don’t think I will made pictures like that because safety are more important.
  • @peanutbutterjelly Yeh. There has been countless interviews from former classmates and TVB teachers that Chow Yun Fat was as wooden and non talented as they come when it comes to acting, to the point where he was so close to getting dropped. Looks and timing are very important. Back in the early 1980s there was a shortage of lead actors with many switching to other stations so more opportunities were given to aspiring actors/actresses. Nowadays TVB have the monopoly and looks are important for the initial opportunities. However, TV series have become more advanced and there are online forums and social media posting critiques and reviews. Even the best looks won’t ensure unlimited opportunities. The likes of Grace will still have to keep improving otherwise will be eventually filtered out. Even in ‘the Forgotten Valley’ it looks evident that TVB have reduced her role and have not included too many scenes that requires strong acting. This is a good method slowly build Graces’s confidence and experience. Simply throwing her into another ‘Captain of Destiny’ where she is the centre of attention would be career ending.
  • @peanutbutterjelly Raymond is decent in most series. The inner pain he showed in Bottled Passion was brilliant, the villain role in Overachievers was decent and he was great as the caring husband/father in Swipe Tap Love. There’s never a WOW factor about Raymond but he is very likeable and I would think a ratings guarantee. Like I said though, it’s early in the year and the cheap series are always broadcasted first because these are chosen by TVB as non awards potential. Raymand unfortunately has another one of these cheap series coming up in “Apple Colada.”
  • @peanutbutterjelly thanks for the heads up. You are right. Looks have always been the high point of all the studios, all over the world. However, they did let in some actresses and actors who did not have the *look*. An example....Angelababy. She was butt hurt ugly when she first started acting. Nowadays, an actress starting out who looks like that would be dismissed, unless she got major, and I mean major plastic surgery. Now it is a hundred percent all about the *look*. I should have explained myself better.
  • @jimmyszeto This is touted as a female empowerment drama yet it screws over the female cast the most in terms of writing and story development. Raymond Wong's performance here is serviceable though nothing earth shattering and I don't care about his character. I liked him most in 'Bottled Passion'. Grace Chan is really not that bad but god, her character is frustrating to watch. People here won't agree with me but I honestly think, all things considered, this drama is even worse than Bet Hur which, don't misunderstand me, is a pile of sh*t but at least it never pretended to be anything more than what it's presenting to us: ridiculous and tasteless. Forgotten Valley on the other hand pretends to be about something, pats itself on the back for the premise and lazy its ways through the tvb formula. Which would be fine and just yet another run-off-the-mill bad tvb drama that I can forget about in two days... but then they had to have the kind of ending that makes my blood boil and everything just so much more nauseating to digest.
  • @bubbletea "In more recent years, they’ve become more shallow and are focussing more on pretty faces" Sorry to burst your bubble(tea) but that has always been the case in every single entertainment industry. So I don't think it's fair to only hold TVB accountable for that. If Chow Yun Fat wasn't tall he wouldn't have been given a chance to start at TVB (I love CYF but he isn't a natural talent when it comes to acting, he worked hard for it and polished skills throughout the years).
  • @peanutbutterjelly Usually at the start of the year after the awards, TVB would release a cheap forgettable series and this year is no exception. It’s a happy ending which is accepted with open arms but certainly too good to be true. If narrow minded, traditional villagers can change completely overnight then this world can become a much better place. I don’t think any of the actors/actresses can be happy with their screentime and character development in the series. Not surprised at all that Louisa and Cilla have ran after the completion of this. Max Cheung has done well again. Raymond has been unlucky that he has not been given a main lead in a mega anniversary series yet. His biggest ones have been under Wayne Lai in ‘Overacheivers and The Confidant’. His big opportunity was ‘Captain of Destiny’ but fell ill and Tony Hung took over and we knew how that turned out.
  • Do people actually still like this after the ending? This is my contender for worst TVB series. I wish I was kidding. I can't believe I liked the first couple of episodes, after watching the ending I feel dirty.
  • @peanutbutterjelly Like I said it is fine if it is done professionally. Still personally prefer natural pictures because it displays real innocent movements.
  • @jimmyszeto usually in pictures like these the baby is supported by one of the parents in a safe position and they Photoshop them away later.
  • @jimmyszeto as long as the babies are not in physical or emotional danger it's not up to you or me to lecture how many or to what extend other people do with their own offsprings. And no these pictures, assuming done professionally, are not dangerous for the newborn.
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