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“But there are cultures where girls are married young to equally young husband.”
Even if the couple’s ages are close together, where the groom may be 17 to 19, the girl’s fate is still decided by her parents in the arranged marriage. She has no right to choose her own life. Although she is a child or young teenager herself, she will become a mother and have to take care of little ones. No chance to really live her own life.
Poverty may be the main reason for the child brides, but the young girls basically are treated like commodities, that can be traded for the parents’ convenience. Abused and beaten by the husbands if they want.
The article mentioned the story of two men in their 50s who decided to marry each other’s daughters. One of the girls was only 10 years old. The fathers are nothing more than pedophiles.
In some poor parts of the world, including China, some young girls are first raped by the men. Then the rapist goes to the family and offers to marry the young girl. The family agrees because they fear that no one will want the girl anymore. Sometimes the young girls were kidnapped by abductors and sold to be child brides to much older men in villages.
@funnlim By the way there are many Marina Mahathirs out there but there are many more non Marina Mahathirs. In fact much much more.
@ajlim I take a different approach. Because the movie package it as a romance, it is skewered. So instead of an introduction to what is not a taboo in their society, I’d rather go all out and say what a nonsensical rubbish that movie is going on. Because it is not just forced marriage, even if technically she is legal age to marry. He was her teacher and more importantly her virtue is saved by marrying him and preserved by him alone. Consequences? there isn’t one. We see things that way but for those already in this culture, they see it as a validation. Yes it is a movie and part of entertainment but since the subject is at its very core abhorrent, it is like watching a movie about rape and forced marriage and skewered sense of virtue and to say it is an entertainment shows why society is doomed. Genocide, hardly anyone is entertained. Assassins is a profession, mercy killing at its core isn’t abhorrent, it is mercy. That movie tries to package the situation as merciful and we are living in modern society and many do think the way the movie depicts and they see nothing abhorrent. Marina Mahathir is a modern muslim woman, outspoken. Yes we can’t stop any movie producer from making such movies, we do have a censorship board who censors script. Clearly some people in that board sees nothing wrong and yet we have the same sort of nonsensical; people going after a poor muslim girl for selling a so called banned book in a bookstore when she hardly had any say to sell or not to sell.
Skewered. So not I disagree. It is for individual to decide but the majority of those individuals sees nothing wrong and that is what scares the hell out of me. But then since it is about a certain group of society that doesn’t concern me, I can either adopt what one minister who says “It doesn’t concern you, why you bother?” or what I adopt which is “Human rights no knows colour or gender or religion, it may not affect me but I care because it affect my fellow friends”.
@ajlim well said.
@cuckoo as long as her body produces milk then the milk is fine. Loosing weight won’t affects the quality of the milk unless u have disease or cancer.
@coralie normally obese is the term people refer to as overweight. When I say skinny vs obese is just normal healthy kind not with an disorder. U still can have normal diet to be skinny without a disorder. I used to work in the infertility clinic and fat people have harder time getting preg, overweight can cause the baby to have diabetic and mother has hard time carrying the baby due to high blood pressure.
If baby is born at 4 or 5 lbs is still healthy bc they will grow after birth. Drs only concern with the growth of anatomy parts of the fetus.
We have to calculate the age, height, muscle weight to determine excessive weight loss or gain to have infertility.
My sis in law didnt have amenorrhea. I was just saying alot of women don’t have period every month and this is completely normal not bc they have to have a medical condition that causing it. Women that have pcos can still get preg. You still can get preg if you don’t have your period, that had happened to my sis in law – this is just meaning irregular period not amenorrhea. Some people have 2 days period some have 5-7 days and is still normal.
She’s still so cute looking. It’s for a good cause, good for her!
@msxie0714 No I don’t think so, she would probably call her Angelababy jr.
Another good actor leaving. Derek potraits his role well and brings out the character traits naturally. I am amazed with his acting skills in On Call where his character has the habit of blinking the eye forcefully,and he does it so naturally! What a loss…Seems like what I commented on Myolie rumoured leaving is coming true soon…Sigh
@funnlim yeah its autocorrectXP Tried typing Ruco and it is corrected into Rico.
@azndoraemon I only said that because your first analogy was incorrect. Skinny vs obese? That’s not even comparable because one is the semi standard and the other is an extreme, which is why I said between anorexia (one extreme) vs obesity (another extreme), evolution favors obesity.
Gaining or losing weight doesn’t necessarily mean anything during pregnancy as the body can cope with reserves. It’s not healthy for the baby to lose weight, but it won’t always cause a miscarriage.
So your sis in law had amenorrhea?
By the way I’ve watch “Suami aku Uztaz” rather than being angry at the movie i choose to spread awareness on child bride every opportunity we have. I use this movie as a beautiful introduction of this taboo subject and subtly inject about ills, and consequences of such culture. Don’t you agree?
@funnlim. I am no fan of child marriage neither on paedophiles. There are lots of issue involved as you have indicated at your comment. Which are very true. Perhaps we need to look at different angle when it comes to “Suami Aku Ustaz”. Maybe we need to treating as a movie a part of entertainment. This movie have no difference than movies about genocide, assassins, mercy killing and sort which is equally abhorant. I invite you to visit https://www.facebook.com/mobileprotection?source=mobile_mirror_nux#!/marina.mahathir?fref=ts
She is a muslim and a woman champion and there also Muslim men who are very active promoting woman’s and children’s right in Malaysia. We cannot stop any movie producer towards kinds of movie they make. But its up to individual to decide.
@azndoraemon is her milk qualified?
Breaking up is fine. You don’t always pick the right person the first time around and people change as well as their needs.
I think what repulses most people about Marco is not that he dumped Joyce for a younger woman, but how he went about doing it. His attitude and words to the media regarding Joyce were harsh, cocky and ungraceful. He could have handled it a lot better. Maybe Marco needs a new PR person. He really does not have good EQ.
Look at Adam Cheng who went through the same thing. People hated him for it but at least he did not bash Lydia to the media. He handles it really well whenever the media asks him about his previous marriage. And most importantly, he apologized. Yes he was jerk to cheat on his wife during her difficult pregnancy and it does not change what he did, but he handles it so much better than Marco.
Marco, on the other hand, started pulling statistics about how marriage lasted longer if you got married quicker and tried to justify his actions. It not only killed his popularity but also his career.
I will support Derek in whatever he choose to do. He has been loyal to TVB for so long but he has never been past 2nd lead or main villian and now it is time for him what he wants. Good luck to him. Anyhow, sooner or later, TV will run out of veterans and beg for him to come back!
Derek is really talented and versatile and he can do kungfu as well. It is really TVB’s loss!
P/S Leila Tong looks so youthful.
@jayne Just read the linked article. Familiar stories and sick. You know some justification? I marry them young but I won’t touch her until she has her period, signifying when she becomes a woman. And frankly the idea of a 50 year old and a 13 year old is sick enough already. The self justification is appalling. But you the examples in the article, the parents are very very very poor. So girls are traded off for debt (money or otherwise), in the belief of better life, didn’t know any better due to vicious cycle of tradition, culture, father did it, father’s father did it, etc etc etc. Like I said these girls had no chance, at all. Blame the parents, blame the societal ill, blame the grooms who all are of better positions but are blatantly abusing the poor.
What not many will openly say it it is openly paedophile activities. Child bride is too nice a word. These are all peadophiles and the parents don’t even know it, don’t even realise the real impact of it.
Yeah I read before these young girls giving birth basically died from it due to the fact they are so young, pelvic bones too narrow, etc etc.
Jayne I don’t know. My blood boils everytime I read something like this, something so perverse disguise as so watered down version. They’re all peadophiles. That’s that. Not more can be done unless mindset are changed. Mindset can’t change if they continue to live in poverty or the law is not there to punish the perpetrators and since most justification is based on religious rights, these cultures are doomed because they don’t want to be helped, they think they’re doing just fine. There are poverty stricken fathers who refuse to marry off their young daughters, but the consequences are terrible for the family. Vicious circle, vicious cycle. And then we have stupid movies like Suami Aku Ustaz that packaged it all in a nice movie about romance. Doomed.
@jayne it’s heart breaking hearing all kind of stuff people go through in poor country.
I would pay one of the family to adopt their girl if that’s possible. I always try to donate money to the poor country especially to orphanages/community. I hope more people can donate
@jayne In a country where child marriages are rampant but not spoken of, I agree with her stance but for a different reason. Recently incredibly Malaysia has a movie called Suami Aku Ustaz. Just google it. Not only is it stupid, it is incredibly preachy and smack in the face of reason.
But there are cultures where girls are married young to equally young husband. Fine. But what makes me oil are young girls marrying men decades older (think min 40 years) or even rape victim (mostly young girls) marrying their rapists.
Sorry to say Malaysia has quite a few example.
It is not a practice but an abuse on human rights. YEs some are living in poverty so maybe marriage may help, some may be disguising selling daughters for dowry or selling off another mouth to feed with a self pat on the shoulder that at least she has a better life with food to eat, etc etc. What these girls never had from the start was a chance. Parents against them, economy against them, country against them, culture against them. Much abuse stem from the word called culture. But to fix all that must fix the economy. When parents are well enough perhaps such practice may stop unless you’re some Muslim who insists on marrying off your university educated daughter to some farmer back in Pakistan or somewhere. So it relates to personal belief and how much these girls are respected as a human being, which is to some culture, zero.
Child brides is such a nice name, like Comfort Women but pack a lot of abuse, trouble, heartache, crushed dreams, hopelessness… Let’s not even talk about genital mutilation. Technology may have advanced but some cultures are still worse than dark ages.
@mi88 So true! Less and less incentive to watch TVB nowadays. In my opinion, the veteran supporting artists leaving is even worse than the main leads leaving, as alot of times they are the ones who carry the series over the leads (especially when the script is poorly written or the storyline / plot is boring, etc….I know for me personally I can tolerate bad script/storyline if the acting from majority of the cast is good/solid). Of course I don’t blame them for leaving, especially if their careers are going nowhere, there are few opportunities, and in some cases, they have to struggle just to make ends meet.
Well, good luck to Derek. If he’s getting better opportunities and able to make more money by leaving TVB, then good for him — after all, he has a family to provide for.
The important question is, when Angelababy has a baby, will she drop the baby from her name as a sign of maturity?
there are bigger fakers out there.
All the good ones are leaving.
@coralie – Which countries that have this law u are talking about?
I don’t think anyone enjoy being fat or having big belly..,? This is just how the fashion goes. Even men likes to have muscle instead of body fat. This is for ordinary people not just celebrities. Do u see designer clothing have
Over sized clothes?
National Geographic profiled several child brides in Yemen and their horrific experiences. Many of the girls were married to much older men, who subsequently raped the underage brides. The girls’ families usually arrange for the marriages for financial reasons.
Reading about the practice of child brides made me feel very angry, how girls’ lives are ruined because their families make the marriage decisions.
@nomad822 – losing weight doesn’t affect breast feeding. My friend who is preg now been loosing weight from her pregnancy and she’s also breast feeding her toddler. Some people have normal body weight but don’t have any milk at all.
@hetieshou Some married couples have to work long hours to make ends meet, while others are more fortunate to be able to choose. But this may require changing their lifestyle and reducing expenses.
#Angelababy and #HuangXiaoming make millions in one year. Huang Xiaoming has already invested money in multiple restaurants and even has a stake in Huayi Brothers. Since he is approaching 40, it appears he has thought about eventually decreasing his onscreen appearances and diversifying his investments to earn more passive income. Huang Xiaoming and Angelababy seem genuinely in love, so hopefully they will be able to make things work although both have busy careers.
As for your friend’s case, it is not always under our control regarding work load and hours. If there is opportunity at work, does he turn away? This may end any promotional opportunities in near future. He may have also considered the expenses of the planned upcoming wedding as well.
@coralie I’m not talking about anorexic and I don’t think barbie had that problem and she’s not extremely underweight.
Some pregnancy women instead of gaining weigh they loss weight bc they can’t eat nothing and on top of that they vomit all the time.
Having regular monthly period doesn’t mean the egg will release either. It’s so common for women to skip period but they still can conceive bc there are 12 chances in a month. My sis in law was able to get preg when she didn’t have her period. There are so many factors. Normal skinny is different from unhealthy skinny.
@nomad822 aint that sad? But primarily this is cus Asian countries have no discrimination law and beauty is purported as the universal method to climb the social ladder.
@azndoraemon err actually studies have shown that being anorexic harms a woman’s chance of conceiving much more than the being obese. Evolution favors well nourished bodies, not starving. This is why many women who exercise too much or are in too much stress sometimes get amenorrhea – loss of periods.
Seeing how skinny Barbie is, im surprised she was even able to conceive. But once she did she had to be careful not to lose it.
20 years age gap. she married young and is now starting to live her life, surely Marco will not be able to keep up with an energetic wife, so it’s not surprising she seeks out company of a younger man. This flash marriage is doom from the start, Karma!!!
I personally do believe in karma. When you do bad deeds, bad deeds will happen to you. Marco Ngai really deserves it after everything did to Joyce. I hope she takes all his money and dump him for whoevers out there.
@tess you wrote:Relationships and friendships are the same? Seriously?
This doesn’t seem like you understood.
wasting my breath talking to childish person. Who believe karma will come when breaking up with your partner.
@tess miscarriages are very common. Many women just have fear of loosing the baby in general not bc of weight loss. She never said loosing weight during the time she was carrying her daughter. Being skinny will not affect from conceiving but being obese will affect it. Read the article again and do research on pregnancy.
I’m going through it right now so I can understand it well. Some women have zero symptoms during their whole pregnancy and they won’t understand women that are having crazy symptoms. Some women throw up all the time and can’t hold any food at all. You have to Go through the pain personally to understand. Every women bodies are different. Hormonal changes can be very evil too.
My coworker lost 10 +lbs during her pregnancy, she couldn’t eat anything and couldn’t even drink any water for 7 months. She threw up even her stomach was emptied. She had to go to the hospital a few times to get Iv (sodium). Her baby is fine and healthy. She had the same problem with her second pregnancy and baby was fine again.
I have a friend that is preg right now and she is super paranoid about the heart beats of her baby bc her previous pregnancy – the fetus died 3 weeks ago inside and she didn’t know until her next checkup. Dr usually only see their patient once a month.
@azndoraemon I’m exceptionally clear in differentiating between friendships and bf/gf relationships. I don’t mix these two up. It sounded so wrong. Or maybe you are a confused person that’s why.
@azndoraemon being on a ideal weight before conceiving is also very important. If she’s so self conscious about her weight I’m not surprised if she’s having a strict diet regiment even when she’s pregnant. The explains why she’s so paranoid when is carrying her baby and kept asking doctor if the baby inside is ok?
@tess she’s talking g about loosing weight after giving birth!
Hormonal changes causing pregnancy women to worry about miscarriage especially no way of telling whether the fetus is still growing unless through ultrasound. The pregnancy process is a very long journey. The fetus can died in the womb for weeks without feeling any symptoms.
Even if loosing weight during pregnancy won’t caused miscarriage. Some pregnant women just loose weigh automatically during pregnancy bc of morning sickness and some of them can’t eat or drink due to feeling nausea or sensitive to food smell. Some moms have this problem after birth too.
She’s trying to lose post partum weight.
This won’t affect her baby, unless she becomes weak as a result … or is breast feeding.
Among my Taiwanese friends – priority on beauty and weight is very very important.. One of my dance friends weighs herself twice daily.
@tess I’m speechless and shocked
@tess do u get along with every single person u met whether in your family or school/friends?
Have u changed your mind about who you used to think was your best friend who is now someone else instead? Are u saying we dont get to pick who we want to be with or what we want for our future? Is hard for childish to understand
Hopefully their relationships will work. Love this couple!
What more weight to lose? She’s never been on an average weight! Maybe too much weight lost caused the miscarriage. Come on woman! Which is more important? Your weight or the baby that you are carrying?!
@azndoraemon ditching doesn’t sound childish to me, or you would prefer dumping?
Relationships and friendships are the same? Seriously?
@azndoraemon well, although Gigi is happily married now, but the relationship between her and Ekin didn’t work. So, that’s their karma. Karma has bad and good ones…maybe Gigi did something good and she’s having a good karma in her current relationship/marriage.
@nomad822 Joyce was a third party when dating her husband. He had a gf at the time according to this article http://www.jaynestars.com/news/joyce-tang-unlucky-in-love-for-the-third-time-boyfriend-french-kisses-another-woman/
@nomad822 – Gigi Leung was the third party to ekin and Maggie’s relationship. Gigi is now married to someone else and has her own baby. Ekin also married to yoyo at the end instead of maggie. is this karma? Thats how love can be. There’s no right or wrong. Marco chose his wife over Joyce that just mean his love for her was stronger than for Joyce. Thats how his heart felt – was it wrong i don’t think so.
In a relationship sometime the male put in more effort but it could be the other way around. Where u get 150% from? Joyce may have loved Marco to death but that doesn’t mean the more u put in will guarantee a marriage/happiness.
I’m glad Joyce had found her other half. Things does happen and sometimes good sometimes bad – is just meant to be.
Whatever, however much//little PS they both had.
As long as they’re really happy, and did not have to step on anyone to get together (as in 3rd party etc), no gold digging motives in the name of love etc etc etc …
Congratz to the couple. They look sweet together.
Also agree on genetic chemistry being a mystery.
– Kids sometimes looking completely different fr parents (skipping a generation)
– Or having the best/worst combinations of mom and dad’s features.
Some kids look gorgeous even at 4, with beautiful features and good bone structure, but you wonder where it was from when you see the parents.
Then on closer look you can see the dad’s best feature (nose and cheekbones for eg) and mom’s doe eyes in an otherwise insipid face combined and accentuated in the kid. Likewise, some beautiful looking parents with kids whose features looking like they were created from dough.
Some kids look gorgeous at 8 … then growth and development sets in … that perfect egg face elongates, the jawline becomes wider etc … and that beautiful or cute face with the same features look way different when they’re 19. Same features, but much less good looking than at 8.
Same for less good looking plain kids at 8 turning into drop-dead swans by 19.
Following the karma analogy – then what about karma for the 3rd party – ie his current wife? Afterall didn’t Marco ditch Joyce for her?
The dude’s desperately saving face and clutching at straws, with thinly veiled threats at his wife too.
And hullo … no Marcos, you’re not that well known either.
“The Hong Kong paparazzi is very resourceful — they’d be dead if they booked a hotel room! I choose to trust my wife. I’ll tell her that although her husband is not working in Hong Kong at the moment, he is still someone who is well-known. She should be careful when she is out.”
As for Joyce, she appeared really needy to get hitched at one time with her jump from one bf to another – it always seemed like she was the person giving 150% in the relationships.
NOT for karma or to show anyone … Joyce seems happy with her husband. That’s good enough – that contentment and inner happiness … no need to prove anything to anybody.
@tess – if a relationship doesn’t work out there’s nothing wrong with neither party. We get to choose who we want to be with but whether is a good choice or not we dont know. just like choosing a friend – some people you are bonded to but later on friendship can end.
Any person get to choose what they want in life. Joyce maybe having a better marriage now which is good. Marco’s marriage might not be as good but he did nothing wrong and divorce can happened in any person. How can u get karma just for ending a relationship? Ditching is a very childish term
Feel sorry for the poor boy. May he recovers quickly and completely.
@elizabeth Francis didn’t go into tremendous detail on the injury – all he said on his weibo and in interviews is that the doctor’s report confirmed that Feynman’s injury is permanent and that his vision continues to be blurry. I actually wouldn’t be surprised if there was internal damage to the eye though, because the injury was pretty severe. When I saw pictures from the news coverage of the incident when Feynman was rushed to the hospital right after he was injured and then watched that last episode of Where Are We Going Dad, I felt so bad for him — his left eye and the entire skin area around it were so puffy and bloated…it was hard to look at. I don’t blame Francis for being pissed either…any father would be…and throwing the microphone on the ground is considered a “mild” reaction for him given his usual temper….
@tess thank you! Complimenting with lmao sound so childish and fake!
@azndoraemon and btw your “I love your name and will name my baby aiden if its a boy” sounds really mature! LMAO!!
@tess you don’t get it bc you are childish and have too much sense of humor that tends to enjoy laughing at people.
@hetieshou it’s non of my business what other people did or done. I only focus in commenting what Marco did in his previous relationship with Joyce. And I believe that’s the bad karma he’s gotten from ditching her. Do you have any problem with that?
@aidenchan I’ve seen alot of @funnlim post but never replied to them until now.
Btw I love your name and will name my baby aiden if its a boy
@msxie0714 sorry, I don’t know and I don’t care about who are the Korean celebs or what the Chinese idolize. I only know these two fakers.
I’m literally laughing at some of the above comments. There’s no point bashing on someone’s opinion just because they dont share the same pov. You guys are so childish. Even mentioned about feeling bad for their loved ones…hmmm… I just don’t get it.
@alluka – this is my first time posting comments on these couples bc of funlims. I honestly don’t follow much of their news, mainly skim through some.
Faces can changed overtime. I actually never realized about my face from childhood until so many of my moms friends complimented my look when I was 17. They never said I was pretty when I was younger. I looked back at old pics and my face looked longer and chin/mouth were different. I think bc of my teeth back then. Overbite can affect the shape of your chin.
@alluka @azndoraemon thank you!
Finally, I thought I was the only one that couldn’t understand why @funnlim comments / reviews are so pointless and biased. Maybe now Jayne will realize what her audience think of all the @funnlim postings
@peanutbutterjelly – wow that’s pretty
I think this might be old news or something because I saw on Weibo the leading man is Huang Xuan. He’s not generically good looking but has charm and can really act.
@hetieshou AB is not claimed to have breast implants. If she had, she will have to remove the fake breast bags when she has breast feeding because the artificial bags give impact to her kid. The artist I mentioned above removed her breast bags due to that reason. However, AB is out of scenario because she is only claimed to have PS, not filler, not breast implants.
@funnlim Which chemicals? She doesnt use the filler so there is no chemical on her blood. if she really had PS, she had it years ago so now she doesnt need to use medicine anymore. You can say it to someone who use filler to check for such thing, but it isnt for the case of AB. Same to HXM who is claimed to use PS but none signal of filler applied on any part of his body.
@alluka your feeling is wrong. I will say what I mean and since I didn’t say it I didn’t mean what you say I mean. I do think blood travels everywhere carrying whatever chemicals? I don’t know. I am just saying better be careful.
@peanutbutterjelly Her large mouth is the only problem in her face. Probably the surgery to make the chin becomes V-line also help the mouth to be smaller. And then, she looks much better.
Moreover, makeup makes a contribution to her good look. There are pictures of AB with minimum makeup and she looks quite similar to herself in those so-called before surgery pictures.
Oh come on, 14 year old angelababy was a pretty girl. Nowhere near the ‘got her whole face done’ as most people seem to suggest. Their kid, if they choose to have any, will look fine.
I’m finding the series to be fresh with a good mixture of comedy and drama. The scenery is excellent which makes it very watchable. I think TVB have finally produced a good script and become more imaginative in using filming locations.
@llwy12 What wrong with the vision? If it is nerve damage or macular damage, then he is stuck with it for life. If there is scarring on the cornea or if there is a traumatic cataract, it is still fixable. I feel so sorry for the kid. I understand Francis. I would be pissed off as well.
You really wonder if karma exists? There are many that have done worse but nothing bad has happened to them at all. But they are also living a happy life. Even though I think Marco made the wrong decision to end the relationship with Joyce,but at the same time, I do not think it is right to rub it in his face either.
you’re being debby downer. Most expected Da S’s lighting marriage to last no more than a year, but they’re still married.
are they anymore plastic and fake than Korean idols whom Chinese fans idoliz?
@alluka – they are just celebrities and I don’t understand why she cares so much about their loves life. Whether she likes or doesnt like them she still should not wish them breakup or divorce.
I don’t like my sis in law but she has talked to me about divorcing my bro 10 years ago but i encouraged her not to. Now, they been together for 18 years now. Is just not nice to wish someone to have bad life just bc u don’t like them.
@hetieshou Actually I think AB only has her chin and eyes done. The other things are pretty much the same to her childhood pictures. She is pretty at born except a too big mouth. Since she fixed it, she looks almost different but seeing her childhood pictures clearly, her face still can keep the childhood look. Two parts in the face, I dont think it is too much.
On the other hand, if you see her face without makeup, you will see the original features in her. HXM also said the same thing. Moreover, her brother looks pretty much similar to her current look so cant say that she has her whole face done.
Yue Lao has put them together so it is not in our power to say anything bad. No one knows the future and I guess we have all seen marriages that can last a lifetime, marriages that seem happy but end abruptly,etc.. Life and the future is truly unpredictable.
@hetieshou A marriage is definitely a tango of two. If only one side contributes and the other side is careless, it will be ruined, inside or outside. However the couple still needs some private moment. You cant expect your wife/husband to change 180 degree after the marriage. I know it is hard because normally, woman is more sensitive so the wife will hope the husband to change and contribute the marriage more. I went through that and I understand the feeling of the wife. If they can balance the workload and life style, it is perfect. If not, then the couple must choose to let go the hard feeling.
I think HXM and AB will be fine. Watching AB on Hurry Brother and she isnt the stay-home type. She is easy-going.
Xiaoming is not that plastic so if the baby looks like him,then you will all know that he did not get that much done as opposed to his wife. Many children do not always look like their parents but like their grandparents,aunts,uncle’s or any close relative or even distant relative. Genes truly work in strange ways.
I can tell you in my family,my 2 oldest brothers look nothing like the rest of my other siblings or my parents. I later found out that my oldest brother looks like my paternal grandfather whom I have never met since he passed away way before I was born. My 2nd oldest brother looks like my maternal grandma whom I did meet so I did see the resemblance. Basically, children do not always necessarily look like the parents.
@funnlim – you seem to like reading articles that you hate which I don’t get.
You sound so immature! If you are married I hope your marriage last forever. I don’t understand how a person would wish someone to have a bad life/marriage. Only unhappy person can think like this or bad mouthing others.
That is a good point that you made Jayne,but slowing down work output is easier said then done,especially in the circle where you must take every opportunity that you get. I remember one of my close friends getting engaged and then she broke the engagement after a year because her finance broke his promise about reducing his workload. He promised to reduce his workload after they get engaged but then he worked even more than before. It got to the point that their time spent together became less to the point that they became strangers. My friend did not want to live with a stranger husband so she broke off the engagement. Not to say that it will happen Xiaoming and Angelababy,but I guess my point is maintaining a marriage takes a lot of work from both people.
@azndoraemon Actually she wont say “wont last for longer than three years.” when it comes to someone she likes, for example Nicky Wu and Liu Shi Shi couple. She protected them and their huge age-gap love pretty well. And when some of her other idols have love scandals, such wish didnt appear but something like “he is so good so he will find a wonderful lover soon” etc.
But HXM-AB is one of the couples she doesnt like so “wont last for longer than three years.”. Btw, it is merely a prediction. Last time she and some others predict a couple wont last for longer than three years and they last much longer than that. Perhaps it is a love bless in disguise.
Honestly whether anyone divorces of whatever,only time will tell. Don’t we all want to find the right one and spend the rest of our lives? But sadly,in many cases you have to marry 2 times or more. However,there are of course some lucky couples who marry only once and are happy until death,but that is getting more rare these days. I guess you learn to enjoy each relationship/marriage while it lasts instead of worrying about when it will end.
But anyways,wish them the best and congrats! By the way,I do not think Xiaoming is that plastic since I have seen him since the beginning of his career and he still looks a lot like himself. I cannot say the same about Angelababy though. I am also curious about how their baby will look too.
@funnlim – you sound like you know everything and an expert in love. Everytime someone announced their dating or getting married – you would say “wont last for longer than three years.
What a waste that you aren’t a reporter since you are psychic! You have the potential! I feel sorry for you/husband/kids.
@funnlim A baby of parents with sans plastic surgeries still can look different to her/his parents. When a baby grows up, s/he also can look different to her/his kid time.
By the way, for the pure curious, if the baby looks like HXM and AB, what you will say?
@funnlim Science has researches about the impact of the so-called plastic to the milk, dont be worried. Moreover the plastic surgeries applied to face (in the case of AB if she really did plastic surgeries) cannot leave impact to the milk of a mother.
Your comments give me the feeling that you think they shouldnt have a baby because they will divorce in 3 years, they are plastic and they announce their love to the public. So do you think they will not be bad parents? If you think they can be good parents, then why you predict a divorce for them, especially when their kid is only 2 years old if your prediction comes true.
I agree with you there Funn because when you get any kind of surgery, you pump chemicals and god knows what into your body. I remember my cousin not getting any breast implants until she was done having kids and breast feeding. I think she knew that if her breasts were not natural,they can affect her baby in the long run.
@azndoraemon I have made many positive posts. Except some choose to focus on my negative ones since well.. being negative is I suppose attracts more attention.
@alluka Did anyone say bad parents at all?
The so called plastic artist should be careful. Sometimes being kind can be cruel because who knows what sort of chemicals pumped into her body that might have gone into the milk. Better get checked first.
@alluka I personally believe there is no ugly babies. That being said, what may be different is not beauty but rather baby looking different from his or her parents. That is what I meant.
@vodka She has filmed 3 series but TVB decided to keep it in the store. Maybe it was because of her leave. Yes, a long while without Myolie in TVB while TVB still has some same faces again and again and again since beginning of 2015. I notice there are some appeared 2 to 3 times in a short term of 5 months.
If their baby looks pretty, I really feel eager to see the comments of some people here.
@funnlim Maybe you are just kidding but it isnt funny to wish for a divorce, especially to a newly weds couple. Do you feel it is gross?
Btw, HXM was the one who is more eager to announce the marriage than AB. Check his weibo. They have not disclosed their wedding pictures so perhap it is why the picture is photoshoped brightly when posting by a third party.
Regarding their future baby, even if they are really plastic, it wont make them automatically bad parents. I have seen a 100% natural artist who dont give her milk to her son any day to keep the S shape body while another plastic artist chose to raise her daughter by her own milk despite the impact to her body. The later example is a good mother while the 100% natural artist is nothing but a cruel mother.
I also agree with funnlim give it another stretch it’ll prb be alot more to watch as for now so far so good
@funnlim I’m definitely with you in this matter. Some people have no sense of humor at all. And I don’t like fake ppl. This couple is all wax to me! Ugh!
@spearmintx3 – all the celebrities have destroyed @funnlims life. I also noticed all her posts were so negative on any other articles.
@funnlim – SIGH
@funnlim lmfaoo you are too funnyxD
i feel so bad for feynman he was my favorite. He is only a 6 year old boy. Hope his vision stabilizes :/
@jayne Kinda too dreamy that obscured their faces. Too exposed. I actually thought it was fan made or something.
Neither can slow down work output since gotta feed themselves and family. However since they took awhile to reach this stage, perhaps. Not too long and not too soon which means it wasn’t rushed.
@kolo TVB takes usually 5 episodes to settle down. Give it 2 more episodes and then can turn off TV. So far ok what!
@azndoraemon Didn’t you know? HXM and Angelababy destroyed my life with their excruciating step by step reporting of their love life. They hurt me personally by pretending to be beautiful people when half is plastics and the other photoshop with harsh lightning. They murdered my fantasy and my annihilated my belief that beautiful people are beautiful people. That height should be as reported and fame should equal the talent not to publicity but talent to act. They are the villains who have robbed me of my ability to be and think positive.
Murderers! Dream crushers!
@tess I get what you mean and we all say it with tongue in cheek as opposed to some PC nonsense that is written in here.
Karma is finally biting back on him…
I’m interested in seeing their babies if they ever gonna have any, if you get what I mean.
@funnlim – why you always sound so pessimistic and wishing bad thing will happen to many celebrities?
whether they had plastic surgery or none – it’s not of our business and even if they did – so what? We do not have to wish them to soon divorce. Why you have to wonder how the baby will look? you should wonder your own baby/life. is not like they hurt you personally or took away your family. Sorry to be mean but i don’t think is nice to talk negatively about any person.
after watching 3 episode must say this serie is completely a joke,im very disappointed,this is not about wu tang kung fu but just childs play.
@vodka Totally agree. Marco Ngai surely deserves it. He dumped Joyce Tang after having a relationship with her for 15+ years and then went for a 19-year-old Mainland Chinese student during his brief stay in China. He should have known better that he would get this kind of result. Joyce lost her prime time and career in TVB because of her relationship with Marco. I feel so happy for Joyce now. Eventually she got someone who really loves and cares for her.
Male popular artistes like to marry someone young and pretty in Mainland China. Eventually they get dumped if they cannot keep up with their youth and especially career (to make more money). Typical examples are: Lawrence Ng Kai Wah, and now Marco Ngai Chuen Kit. There should be many more. I am afraid that same would happen to those famous female artistes sooner or later, especially if they have a big age gap (older) with their partners. It could be a lot worse for women as women get older quicker …….. physically (face and body).
@elizabeth True, though the scar is the least concern actually (the article is a bit inaccurate). Francis said that Feynman’s vision was affected by the injury — he has blurred vision in that eye now and even though the blurriness comes and goes, the damage is permanent. That’s really the piece that Francis is pissed about…
@alien,actors/actresses come and go but the point is there are not enough good successors nowadays.especially young actors who possess charisma as well as handsomeness and good acting is hard to find,guys like andy lau or tony leung are almost extincted.todays young actors doesnt possess a “star aura”.
@funnlim not to be mean or anything, but you always sound so negative and wish bad on every celebrities happiness or just in general in everything .
She was a 3rd party when he was still with Joyce… Marco deserve it this low life guy went on to date a student and now with time all hell break loose nothing works. He pretty much deserve the karma it’s gonna end up with a divorce.
@funnlim I think if both slow down work output, their marriage will last.
Yes, the above photos are from Angelababy’s wedding pictorial. Perhaps the photo was shot with the bright light to create a dreamy effect.
@sherla1019 Oh yeah why Chin Siu Ho looks better because maybe he is more “rested”. No work. Chin Ka Lok has been very very busy.
@sherla1019 But teeth so yellow!!
And what;’s up with the skunk look for one, overly loud character for another, silly disciples and what nots. I think there’s too many stuff going on. BUT OMG the location which real Wudang mount? Anyway amazing outdoor scenes. It looks very good onscreen.
But the story is just everywhere.
Answering my own question, so far quite ok except episodes 1 and 2 is so loud. Can’t decide between comedy or drama it opts for being loud. Tavia looks lovely in here, her looks is slightly different mostly because her hair is down and this suits her. I even thought she looked pretty and younger, gentler and then I realise she got her cheeks pumped. Subtle but the effect is really good. Perhaps toned down the nose as well. Overall I like this Tavia ver 10.0. Tavia, please stop messing with your looks. It is good now. Just stop.
Dam… i have to say Chin Siu Ho looks much beta then Chin Ka lok his brother as for this series I”ve been waiting for it to air ever since i saw the previews and the promo
@alien Is there some sort of auto correct on? Been seeing lots of Rico lately.
Unable to keep up huh? Young wife huh?
@jayne Not to spoil the party but I expect a divorce in 3 years. If they survive past that, congrats to them.
Anyway I think both are ready for children since she has been quite eager to announce this union. I wonder how the baby will look like.
Is that bright photo real wedding pictorial? Why so bright?
See this is why age matters in relationships. The older person, usually the man, will be controlling and insecure about his partner being much younger than him.
Even now, reading his comments, you can tell there are thinly veiled threats and guilt-tripping remarks.
Unless the man is much more successful than the woman, they will usually be controlling & possessive esp as they get older.
Congratulations to Huang Xiaoming and Angelababy! Very happy for them! Expect a baby within 3 years before Xiaoming turns 40!
Raymond,Ron,Bosco,Steven,Bowie,Michael Tse,Myolie,Sonija,Fala,Niki,Yo Yo all semi gone or gone… Miss all the pass series. Now only Left with Roger,Moses,Rico,Kenneth,Raymond Wong,Kate,Nancy,Sharon,Tavia,Linda,Elena… Currently only looking forward to Nancy,Elena,Tavia,Kenneth,Raymond and Roger. Seems like i would not recognise any artist 1 and a half year later anymore…
@coralie I agree that it’s rarely solely one person’s fault that a relationship doesn’t work out. But I’ve also commented before that we don’t know exactly what happened in their marriage so I’m not going to assume or comment on that. I try to look at the facts that we know of and sincerely hope they both find happiness of their own without sacrificing their responsility as parents. And of course, being a parent is more than providing financial care alone, I guess I just wished Nic would realise that and replace some of his sweetheart time with playtime with the kids.
@peanutbutterjelly Mmm fair point. I don’t think announcing to the world that he doesn’t visit her kids enough helps the situation though, despite it being what it is.
I think Ceci is a decent mom. I never denied this. But is she a great partner? I think that it takes two to tango, and it’s rarely one person’s issue that causes a relationship’s demise. They both contributed.
She does not look pregnant! She looks normal! That is just a bad photo!
Gees, the stress of being a woman nowadays – unable to wear a loose dress without being called pregnant or fat!
Yikes! That looks bad! But maybe he can have laser to remove the scarring when he gets older!
18 years is a long time. Anyway what’s the word on the series? first impressions? Haven’t seen yet but will at some point.
And riddle solved. Modern series.
Sooner or later, I wont be able to recognize anyone in TVB.
I haven’t notice Myolie in any TVB serie for a good while now … it is quite predictable she not returning it’s a pity since TVB is already lacking so much actor/actress.
@coralie Cecilia has personal issues for sure but I don’t think your assumption about is true or fair : “Cecilia could be more accepting & welcoming of Nic’s visits for her kids, but I don’t think she is.”
Nic had gone on record saying that he’s thankful that even after the divorce cecilia never said anything bad to their kids about him and always put on a good word for him towards their sons. Cecilia also vented that she thinks Nic should visit their sons more. That at least shows that whatever frustrations she has with hey ex husband, she’s willing to put that aside for the sake of their kids. And that to me shows she’s a good mother.
Please bring Alex and John back together! They are the main reason for me to keep up with CHL.
In light of the fact that Cecilia recently got kicked off a large film project in which she pleaded desperately for a role, due to her unprofessional temper tantrums, I think it’s safe to say she’s not someone easy to deal with. This seems true professionally as well as personally.
Nic is not a good parent, for sure, but he was raised by incompetent parents as well. Maybe he just didn’t learn how to cope with being in a relationship. It may have been even toxic for him since we can all see how Cecilia can be sometimes. Ultimately that ended in its demise.
From my standpoint, neither are great people. But from society’s standpoint, nic got the better part of the deal and thus labelled the worser partner. I think he could shuffle more weight for the sake of his kids, but he doesn’t make the attempt. Cecilia could be more accepting & welcoming of Nic’s visits for her kids, but I don’t think she is.
It’s really hard to gauge whose better or worse. I think theyre just wrong for each other. Ceci is a loveaholic type who needs a devoted, stable & loving partner. Nic is a lone wolf who needs strong, stoic and independent type, much like himself. But I’m happy for both parties if they can find other partners who can provide them their needs. And we should be happy that they’ve moved on, not cheer & egg each faction on for ditching their ex.
@nomad822 Is it confirmed that Nicholas cheated behind Faye’s back when they were together? Actually, I didn’t follow the HK entertainment when Nic and Faye were a pair. Why did they break up?
From what I’ve heard a lot of ppl saying he has changed, to the better after his divorce. More matured. From interviews and his cooking show he seems to be a nice guy. How he was back then, I’ll leave it unsaid.
@nomad822 I heartly agree with you. If we put the whole complicated relationship of them in a timeline, it is easier to imagine.
The scandal of Ceci was leaked during her marriage but it surely happened before that. It was when Ceci is still with Edison. So she has sex with Edison wasnt something disgusting to anyone. If she did that during her marriage, it is her fault. However she didnt. She is still a devoted wife as we can see. As a result, Nic didnt have a reason to leave her. I admit that I do admire him for staying with her in her hard time and I will continue to admire his love if he can stay with her until the end as he claimed before. But overall, the romantic moments cant last long.
I dont think he is anything wrong to come back to Faye. Neverthless, it is wrong of him to prioritize love over kids. Look, Faye still has time to celebrate birthday party for her daughter with Li Ya Feng. Why Nic cant spend sometimes for his two sons? They are still his sons afterall. I find that Nic is kinda cold to his sons by that mean.
Since Ceci has to be a single mom when her ex is free to date, she has reasons to get mad at her ex. Not really love but the anger. Imagining you have to raise the kids alone without a man to lean on while that man is moved on to date his ex, you will understand the hurt of Ceci.
I think marriage has more meaning to a woman than a man. A woman will change her mind regarding family, kids and husband quite a lot. It isnt that easy to move on and give up a marriage from her side. So if Ceci can move on, It means she lost all hope on Nic.
Im not a fan of either or hate any of them. But Im in the side of Ceci when the romance story is involved. In my opinion, the sons are in her side because they know who care for them more.
(1) Nic not just crashed his Ferrari and ran off back then, he was also cheating behind Faye’s back with Cecilia. As in, his feet was on both boats. If not for that infamous crash which exposed everything … God only knows how long the deception would have gone on for.
What can we say? Women are blind and soft-hearted, especially to a man’s charms.
= Faye took this cheater back on in 2013, 2014? (whatever happened to the once a cheater always a cheater at heart philosophy?)
= Cecilia cheated along with him back then, because she was always so besotted with Nic.
(2) Cecilia was NOT ‘cheating’ whilst in the marriage. The pictures, (not meant for public eyes or not is immaterial) = technically, this episode happened BEFORE they got married.
The ladies in the Edison scandal were all free, unattached agents. Bad judgement, stupidity and foolishness yes, but cheating on husband no.
(3) While it LOOKS way admirable Nic stood by Cecilia instead of leaving … it also made him look good. Isn’t this shrewd self-serving strategy too? Would look gossipy-bad for him as a husband to abandon a wife and kids, just because of her past. Afterall he’s not any shining good boy himself, either. Not to mention, walking out would also mean he felt some kind of blow/slight on his ego, that he wasn’t ‘big man enough’ not to mind and accept.
But he did leave, once it appeared he had stood by his wife like a supportive quality good man who is strong enough not to let anything bother him, instead of turning his back immediately like a cad.
I am sure the ever-posturing Tses do NOT stage a move without first considering long-term effect implications and impact on image. Good calculated move, for his image and reputation enhancement. Short term torture, long term benefits = he makes his exit and walks out eventually still smelling like roses, with people feeling sorry for this strong, supportive understanding and ungrudging husband. Way to go, Nic! *claps for great performance*
(4) As already prior mentioned, any husband that turns his back on a wife for his own face/to avoid gossip when times gets tough (despite the fact she didn’t err DURING the marriage) is so NOT worth keeping. These are the same useless unreliable types that can probably justify cheating (or walking out) if the wife has cancer, some impairment or disfigurement during marriage.
(5) Yes, both are screwed up folk, and come from equally messed family backgrounds.
BUT after the divorce, anyone with neutral unbiased eyes can see who has exerted a lot of responsibility, made time and efforts to minimize the divorce damage on the kids.
It all boils down to motivation and priorities. Anyone who has time to jet to Beijing for romantic trysts but has no free wkend at all to see kids … the priority placement and selfishness (pleasurable self-enjoyment rather than parental responsibilities and obligations) is quite obvious. Quite apparent what is near and dear to Nic’s heart.
(6) Nic’s so called career and the time he expands on it – a large part of that is also for HIS own resume, reputation, ego and pride.
Whether Nic chooses to expand into businesses, and go big or not is all well within his control. Is he throwing all of his profits and sale of businesses to his kids?
Andy Lau is a thriving businessman, but family time is family time. He still makes for quality time with his kid as a concerned (maybe overly concerned sometimes) dad. He doesn’t use it as justification that because he’s so great as the breadwinner bringing home the dough, that the wife staying at home has to 24/7 be the only person in sole charge of the home and kids.
(7) Dating while juggling the demands of young kids is not easy. That is way harder, not to mention the ‘baggage’ reputation and viability for a woman with 2 kids with potential suitors (not one-night stand flings) is challenging.
As a single unencumbered person who only has a career and businesses to bother about (all HIS own achievements by the way) – Nic is free to come and go to parties and events, without ever worrying about the logistics of the welfare/wellbring og young kids dependent on a parent.
Reading between the lines, what actually impressed me back then was Cecilia wanting to bring along her kids while working abroad. Because this totally meant the end to her free and rest time, curtailing freedom too. After work, she would have to worry about their welfare – ie Job #2 as mother begins.
It would have been much easier for her to leave them back home with nannies, throw them both out of her mind and just call home now and then. With no kids tagging along, she could have life as a single just partying, or having fun with the crew after work. Or staying out overnight by herself.
At the end of the day I am neither fan nor supporter of either of them. But I root for the underdog, common sense prevailing when sifting through facts and justice.
Cecilia seems to be damned either way, whatever she does or decides.
Yes, I think she can be screwed up with some of her decisions/actions. But time and again I also think throughout Cecilia often thinks and acts with her heart. Impulsive people are often so and their bark is often worse than their real bite (Nic on the other hand seems the calculative opposite). Her unexplainable moves aren’t the wisest, but we can see the love and time she obviously showers on her kids as a mother.
I too enjoy a good Nic performance at the movies. But I never bought the argument back then that Nic fans used to say that he was entitled to non-stop gaming instead of parenting, just because he brought home the bread and butter. We don’t live in the 50s-70s anymore, where this type of traditional thinking prevailed; acceptable that children were to be seen and not heard, or that a wife should stick by her family even in an abusive relationship and not ever wash family linen in public.
In turn, what can we say about people like Jackie Cheung, Roger Kwok, Sunny Chan, just to name a few others? Their admirable brand of hands-on parenting and making provisions/adaptations, despite very busy careers as well (even more so for heavenly king JC who not only makes time for May Lo and daughters to the extent he used to pick them up from school, but also shows up to support friends at various events?)
A non-supportive husband and lousy dad, is just that = no need for excuses or justifications. Those few and far between high profile quality holiday time with the kids’ are great photo opportunities for Nic’s image as dad, well-staged for biased fans and to appease Cecilia.
It’s easy and glitzier to run a short-term sprint well, and impress. It’s that much harder to endure a long-term marathon, pitfalls and all.
Coming back to above pictures – whatever, her life.
Anyone can look preggers in those floaty Summer smocks, and if she is indeed preggie – she will probably love and care for Kiddo #3 with all her heart, regardless of whether she journeys alone or with a new man.
@funnlim “Yes she did. She was drugged out of her mind.”
I’ve only seen a few of the censored pics on articles and she seemed intoxicated. But even if it she was high in those pics still stand by my point. Photos that were never meant to be seen by the public were leaked. Objectively speaking, she did nothing wrong.
“Neither was a saint.”
I never claimed that.
“no man could have stood by a wife with that sort of scandal. By that time Nic was a little bit matured, he stuck by her”
Isn’t that statement contradicting by itself?
I just wanted to make clear that I don’t think Nic Tse deserves any praise for not leaving his wife and kid at that moment. I think that any decent human being should’ve stood by their spouse in that situation because it all boils down to was: what does he care about more, his wife or ‘face’/what other people will think?
I’m sorry but if you leave your wife that hasn’t wronged you and kid because of ‘losing face’ then you’re trash.
And lastly, I don’t think people are blaming Tse for ‘moving on’ but rather in multiple interviews he claimed he’s too busy to visit his sons regularly, what might as well be true but then it comes out that he flies to Beijing regularly to play house with his girlfriend. THAT rubs people the wrong way. It’s not that you can’t move on but as a parent you have to put your kids before you so to speak, just like what Cecilia does.
“Objectively speaking she did nothing wrong in the so-called ‘scandal’.”
Yes she did. She was drugged out of her mind. Neither was a saint. Nor did I say she was to be blamed. I was merely pointing out he stood by her and no, no man could have stood by a wife with that sort of scandal. By that time Nic was a little bit matured, he stuck by her, she chose to face the media in a dignified way. What happened after was less than dignified for both sides.
As for Cecilia’s struggles and her devotion to her children, I won’t doubt it but I think Nic deserves a break. The children were not with him., If they were with him and she was the one now dating and getting pregnant, I am sure criticisms against her is the same as levied against Nic. They both have moved on, and he should be allowed to find new love with his old love. Hers was easier since her children were with her and the guy’s next to her. He had it more difficult with his love somewhere else and a business to take care of. I am sure he made the effort to balance that part of his life unfortunately like with Cecilia, just because he visited his old flame it gets overblown. Is he wrong to be a love sick puppy? Faye isn;’t pregnant, if reports are true, he isn’t marrying yet. If this article is true, well, Cecilia certainly moved on also, even with her first priority being her children, her career etc she still gets the time to have a relationship and soon to have a child.
If you want a man who is there all the time, he has no career. But he still needs a life. Same right Cecilia has. If Cecilia can move on to new loves so can he. Only she has the boasting right so to speak that she is a good mother because her children are with her. Custody is with her. Outcome is still the same if Nic gets custody except this time the names are different.
Agree. Linda really aged . She can be Alex auntie
Truthfully they both got issues. Neither one is better than the other. No saints here.
@funnlim Standing by your spouse when they are going through a tough period is hardly saint-like behaviour. It’s what every decent human being is supposed to do. Objectively speaking she did nothing wrong in the so-called ‘scandal’. Crashing your ferrari and letting someone else take the blame is what I’d call immature and not to mention illegal. But to be fair, he was young and immature back then so I’m not gonna hold that against him now.
We don’t know exactly what happened in their marriage so we can’t comment on that. However, what we do see is that Cecilia (despite struggling with her own issues) always puts her sons in her top priority and is trying her best as a mother. Meanwhile Nic Tse is sooooooo busy with his carreer that he has no time to see his sons but somehow can fly to Beijing whenever he wants to see ‘the love of his life’ like a love-sick puppy.
Agree, and those busybodies probably caused more harm without resolving anything.
None of the movies he starred in was to my liking.
My gosh!!! Why is he reduced to such a sorry state? Washing the restrooms?
What is happening to Ruco? He has not been offered a role in any drama this year?
The trailer is very underwhelming, considering what Hollywood can churn out these days.
I don’t feel any hype to see this movie. Lol
@funnlim Agreed. I think people need to stop pointing fingers at Nic. He stood by her during the worst period and now that they are already divorced, he is free to reconcile with his ex. There’s nothing wrong with that and it is very delusional of people to think that Nic and Cecilia must get back together again simply because they have children.
@bizzybody for better or for worse Nic stood by her during her worst ever scandal and let her craziness do the talking. How do you even know this rich man will stand by her since it is such an early stage? Whoever that can stop her immaturity and hive her a stable life is good enough. No need to say Nic is leftover since her background isn’t exactly spotless.
which would be a pity for Louis especially
If Louis and Priscilla film this series, they won’t have much time to film the other dramas which air in the primetime slots.
But Hollywood started this kind of cinematic visual effect movies some 20 years ago? Terminators and Matrixs, etc. So yes, HK can do the same as good as Hollywood 20 years ago. This is nothing today. Hope it has a good plot and compelling storyline and the movie won’t be a shy at the box office(s).
Prefer Brian to Owen …
If it’s true, hope she has found someone who truly loves her instead of a leftover who still has feelings for an ex.
What a busybody school. Seriously. And who leaked this to the media? Stuff like this needs to be dealt with in private and the school decided to call the police? Um, what happened to all the counselors? This school did more harm than good and it created this gigantic mess in the first place. If I were Elaine, I’d be pissed too.
(1) JC stepping in at this time (esp after all the silence so far) to offer support will probably give Elaine nightmares and further astress. Isn’t she opposed to her daughter getting in touch with him?
(2) That teacher may have been well-intentioned, and went by the book to react by reporting … but perhaps it would have been way wiser to hear mom’s side of the story before calling authorities/child services.
I don’t see how this resulting drama and putting Elaine in this unpleasant public spotlight is any good for the daughter, or resolves anything.
(3) As in, this is worse – now having the stability of a school Etta is used to, removed from her. To a teen, that social factor is important.
And after all that hype – has anything changed on her home front? Probably not.
(4) Elaine after all her efforts parenting this child singlehandedly, gets this result – shouldn’t the school have applied more tact and sensitivity before going public?
(5) What would perhaps have been proactively supportive would be to get counsellors involved for daughter/mom, and home visits to check in. Mom and child need better communication, and a mediator to put their seperate viewpoints into perspective.
mii88: you are right. somehow, much will be lost without Lok Yi as JM. However, glad my favourite couple is still in and retained. Without the family (don’t go so much for the family scene but enjoy them as a backdrop) and cha li shi – much will also be lost. But then they are going to cut down cost so they cant retain too many old favourites (?). So, glad that my favourite couple is in.
LOL , let see how it will turn out
Heheh, it was the first thing i noticed, maybe because i was just a ‘you who came from the stars’ fan.
The way she talks and how she behaves in the drama, someone who is, not to say ‘dumb’ but naive, yet so confident. Just everything she does reminds me of cheon song yi.
I guess I’ll have to finally watch Come Home Love since they decided to shoot a spin-off sequel wonder how long it will take me to finish it loll
Of course nothing beats the original cast when it comes to sequel, many high expectation if he doesn’t get that it will surely be cut short.
Are you kidding me? Without Lok Yi I’d say I lost at least 85% interest.. If they’re trying to make a second one, it’s gotta be as good or better than the first one.. >.>
TVB sure is going down fast.
Jackie should just step in as a father and give this family some help…
Glad that Richard and Ha Jie will continue but sad that John Ma will not continue. Richard and John has good chemistry. As a family, if the mother is present, hope she does not continue as the tyrannical lady otherwise I am sure I will throw virtual rotten eggs at her. No feelings about Louis & Pricilla, must wait and see how they get into their role.
not as good as the west, of course. but looks pretty good! go louis lol
I want some of what you’re smoking.
@nori I think his taste is different to Myolie. Somehow I still think he has some feeling with Yang Mi.
@idontknow I didn’t really notice that but now you mentioned I begin to feel it too. Not to mention her acting awkwardly, the height here is also a factor. TVB could not find someone whose height matches Linda’s height. This Alex Fong looks small standing next to her if she’s wearing high heels. At least find someone who has Park Hae Jin’s height.
Before, I was hoping for William and Myolie to date one another after watching them in The Drive of Life and Scheme of the Beauty. Now he’s single but Myolie has already found her new love [Sigh].
Good starts. This show that eastern movie is as good as western movie
Any Kdrama fans here?
I agree with Linda’s awkward style of acting.
But if someone has watched the Kdrama ‘you who came from the stars’ you can see some similarities in acting. You can tell that Linda is trying to ‘copy’ cheon song yi’s (jun ji hyun) style.
Maybe that’s the reason that made her looks so awkward in the series
She should work less or take a break like Myolie so she will have more time to meet new guys and date, agree?
@lml1977 … i think whatever you saw on yt was as much as there was at the event =D … there was some chit chat, a discussion session about “What Role Would You Want To Be At A Cafe?” and explanation by another special guest, for example if you want to be “cake” you are in for richness, and if you want to be a “coffee maker” means you have alot of internal feelings that is trapped and many more explanations, but i can’t remember =P … also cooking of “steam pumpkin & mushroom” by ruco and two lucky fans ^ ^, that’s the main attraction of the night =) … and if you were there you would have an opportunity to eat the “steam pumpkin & mushroom” 😉
@kimo28 … actually, i went together with a fan who specially drive all the way from penang to kl just to attend this event =) … we were so lucky to be able to attend this event (*^__^*)
More like she’s not in a hurry to sign any management company, period.
She might have another movie this year (according to Louis they will have another movie together, so idk) but most of her time are filming advertisement/atttending events and personal vacation.
Currently, she’s taking her time enjoying life with friends and family after completing Return of the Cuckoo movie.
Queenie is so pretty why cling to this guy who is not handsome and popular ? Not the first time Eddie had affairs with other woman and yet Queenie try to protect him !!!Dump him my Queenie
I think the age gap is a bit big too. However, it may not be just that but it is also the stage they are both at in their lives. Kevin is ready to settle down,get married and have kids while Grace just won Ms.HK not too long ago and is just starting her career. Therefore,you really wonder even if they did date whether they would reach the marriage stage? Time will tell I guess.
OOOh lucky for those who managed to attend his session , How i wish he can come to Penang , i will definitely rush to meet him ,
Personally I think it is too big a gap in their ages …………. 23 years apart ………….. even love is supposed to be blind!
I predict this affair will finally end, Initially very hot as both were married , now they together , eventually will drift apart and with the 11 age gap , Nicholas will be the first to end this relationship, lets wait and see
How did the whole fan session go? I saw clips of it on YT and Ruco was really spontaneous and cute when the host teased him about taking his shirt off. He is so charming and so so real. I love his humility, his sense of humor and his to-die-for lean, atheltic body. Of course, he is so good-looking with hair now. And he’s such a nice and sweet guy as well. OMG…this guy can do no wrong
“but I think the bigger problem at hand is how ingrained people are in trying to be politically correct. ”
“Society has become too sensitive to issues like sexism, racism and feminism and everyone wants to be on the right side of things so the whip comes out cracking when anything perceived incorrect is immediately stamped out. Except this has also given rise to the victim mentality and other things for people to exploit and hide behind which completely changes the original meaning and what the leaders had fought for.”
100% agree with your comment.
Otherwise why is no one calling Yang guo or other jing Yong characters ‘Gary stues’.
I know at least 2 people who has called Yang Guo a Gary Stu.
“this is an interesting read if you’re interested:
That writer has a huge chip on her shoulder about women being victimised, treated unfairly etc in the big bad patriarchal world.
“The good guys tend to win, get the girl and have everything fall into place for them. It’s only when women started doing it that it became a problem.
All the Disney heroines got the guy and has everything fall into place for them at the end. No one called them Mary Sue. But, I bet the writer will dislike them for being damsel in distress and need a guy to save which discredit feminism.
Mary Sue became the default term to define ‘character in a fanfic who obviously serves as an idealized version of the author mainly for the purpose of Wish Fulfillment ‘ because the first person who made fun of such character chose this name and it caught on. Nothing sinister.
“So when women dominate a genre, that means people are on close watch, ready to scorn any wish fulfillment they may engage in. This term could only originate if the default was female.”
No. People don’t watch closely looking in women dominated genre for things to scorn. The more logical reason would be people reading a lot of fanfictions notice such a trend and someone decide to point it out and others agree.
The reason the term first came out is because fanfic writers wrote original (badly written) wish fulfillment character in a fanfiction and has them dominated the fiction, and it annoyed the fans who wants to read about the canon characters instead of the author self-insert. And it most probably aimed at extreme example like characters who has special color hair, special power, exceptional skill and beauty and won over the main guy who in canon is in love with the main girl.
The term later evolve to become terms for idealised characters in general.
@sodi In my opinion, other than the meaningful type (the award aiming ones), all other movies aim commercial success :).
@funnlim 92-69=23. KC is 23 years older than KC
@zuizui TVB is known to be one of the lowest rate in pay for their drama and the work hours is like 12hr to 16hr a day.
While in mainland people get much higher pay at least triple the amount and with less hours work day.
I seriously doubt any parent will be having any good impression of a potential son in law who is
a. 21 years older than their young daughter.
b. recently involved in some so called kissing in the club scandal unless they don’t follow chinese celebrity news
c. a bit too fast moving sort of relationship
“With that in mind, he made sure that he was always punctual and familiar with the script. ”
Perhaps why the A List stars in China is so disrespectful is because if it is not Liza, Alex would have been not always punctual and not familiar with the script and thus pissing them off?
Frankly Linda has been “awkward” in her body language even if it is just sipping tea or walking. Still not sure why.
Alex Fong is not exactly the best actor. But in physique, the other Alex Fong would have probably matched Linda better. Didn’t know this Alex Fong is so… errrr.. petite? Do you use the word petite for men?
ewww.. she likes old man Kevin? hahaha
i like chow yun fat.. he’s so sexy in every movies!!
TVB payment is lower than mainland??
this drama was really boring..
Alex and Linda doesn’t match in this series
her height is tall.. Alex is short..
was really Awkward to see their acting..
@kidd That’s because that newsroom IS a real newsroom – it’s HKTV’s newsroom….Ricky Wong had his news department clear out their offices for The Menu’s crew to film (of course, the crew “personalized” the offices by turning it into Gwing Po newsroom, but most of the office equipment was already there). If you get a chance to watch some of the news clips about the TV license thing where they show pictures of HKTV’s offices, look closely and I’m sure you’ll recognize both the exterior of the building and the inside corridor / entrance area…talk about realistic set!
If they really do a movie version and want to use back the same actors, it can’t be a remake of the series. All the actors are 15 years older. It will have to be a sequel. Even back then, I felt that Jessica was a bit too old for the role of the young Wu Ting Fong.
Now, if Jess play the role of Chiu Nga or Chiu Nei, it the movie it might work. These 2 are in their 30s (but still very beautiful) in the novel.
Dump him! Dump him!
Just watch episode 1 of The Menu. I like Kate Yeung. She got too little credit for her role in the series (overshadowed by Catherine Chau and Noel Leong). She portrayed the rookie reporter very well. Anyone who has seen both ‘Once Upon A Song’ and ‘The Menu’ would see what a versatile actress she is. She gave a totally different portrayal for her 2 characters in these dramas.
I like this series. I tried to watch episode 1 twice before but didn’t get pass the first 10 minutes. To me the car chase was confusing and everything was so rush. But, I finally sat down and watch the whole episode 1 and was hooked by the end. I find this series very realistic, from the set to the overall portrayal of the workings of the news office. People are actually working and going after news, and you get to see how reporters really work and the newsroom really look like a newsroom.
@spearmintx3 She has a similar smile to her mum as well.
@funnlim … it was at Beam Cafe, Bandar Sri Damansara, actually it is located at a small industrial area … there was a “Meet & Greet Session” on 7 May 2015 at 7pm to 9pm for fans, Astro customer could actually redeem passes with 300 circle points … i went there last minute with fan club members =D … that night it was something like a cooking program and everyone got to eat “steam pumpkin & mushroom” cooked by him ^ ^ … but i regret not eating that night =(, but could still remember the mushroom aroma =)
@spearmintx3 yes i noticed that too
I think viewers have had many other choices of what to watch for years now like China, Korea, Taiwan,etc.. But of course,if you are referring to HK only then yes,viewers will have more and hopefully better choices since TVb is very bad now.
Who does not age? But the most important thing is to age well and gracefully. Those who are more natural will definately age a lot better than those that have had plastic surgery, lots of botox and other stuff done to them.
I wouldn’t want to stay in TVB if I were Charmaine Sheh either. There is absolutely no competition among actresses in TVB. Everyone else is newbie or almost newbie. Moreover, Charmaine Sheh was always close to Mui Siu Ching who highly promoted her in the past. I think if Mui Siu Ching invited her to join her in NowTV, Charmaine would easily accept it if she is not under any contract with TVB. I don’t blame her. There is no competitive actors to pair up with her in future drama series, except maybe Moses Chan and Kevin Cheng. Kevin does not film many drama series with TVB now.
I wish her best of luck and more success in her future acting career. It is about time for her to make a good decision for her own self and have more freedom to select her own roles.
Maybe she thinks she is a movie star now… Wonder, who are the cast left in the station now? Looking forward to Nancy now…
Wow. So her parents are involved now too. This is going pretty far. I’d like them together but seems like great just ready to give up her new career as Kevin is getting old
Grace Chan is a pretty lady and intelligent as well But needs to put on more weight and improve in her actincg
Going to miss Chairmaine again
I am so happy for you! Wish you the best!
She has her mom nose and cheek HEHEHE
Damn i wish i was part of his company employee LMAOO.
Anyway, she still looks pretty <3
Both of her parents look so Chinese but she looks a bit mixed with Caucasian blood…must be the heritage genes…
Looks like she’s finally aged. The above pic looks old.
Really hope that we have such a chance in Hong Kong to be served by him. He looks very handsome and attractive.
If the rumor is true, ditch him! She definately deserve better!
Everyone is going to mainland China at one point in their career, because they offer much more money compared to TVB. The result is that many leading roles are offered to people with no experience or not much experience at all.
Besides working in the mainland however, I predict many former lead TVB actors and actresses working for another TV station in HK.
TV war is coming in HK with TVB, Hong Kong Television Entertainment, Fantastic TV and another TV station (HKTV or another company) competing for the viewers. Finally, viewers have more choice which TV series to watch.
I guess she finally decided to go for $$$ in the mainland rather than remain her fame in Hong Kong.
Ruco and Linda make a lovely couple. Why don’t they just date? They seem to be fond of each other too. I do think their fans would love to see them together as well…
Surprised that many don’t believe #KevinCheng and #GraceChan are an item. Based on both artistes’ responses to the media, I think they are very interested in each other. However, whether they remain a couple or not will depend on whether they are compatible after going out on some dates.
Disagree, age of ultron is entertaining
Superman v batman: dawn of justice
Professor king v lawba: dawn of law of physics
Raymond lam’ s professor king & kevin cheng’s law ba can make into movie
Please make it happen
Louis koo – fair became tanned dark
Raymond lam – tanned dark became fair
I recently am re watching a step into the past for the third time lol hopefully the movie version is as good as the original version.
So many long responses. Good stuff, but TL;DR!
ricky your a brave men to challenge tvb dramas, but you HKTV series kinda bad.
if i were you , i will be investing on better storyline and younger people.. everyone there is over 35 year old playing main or second leads.
TVB drama is kinda crappy because lack or new talents, and storyline, The old atv and tvb series are good, lot of new talents, lot of character progressions.
Maybe its not worth it to spend so much money on new talent and production, because younger generation dont glue to TV they enjoy downloading TV Shows.
Does anyone notice how bad HKTV drama is?
1- Lack of characters
2-same people acting in almost all series?
3- no characters progression or developments….
4- half the series is talking about the past..
AND the camera always zoom in or weird angle, because they want to save money on filming ( bigger vision cost more )
The lighting and sound of hktv is similar to ATV…. very dim and bad sound…
TVB drama is bad also, but at least they have more people and camera ,sound,lighting is better…
Tvb had already lost its glory. Now many artistes/writers that was popular and groomed by tvb ventured to China instead. No more loyalty. I think that breaks tvb too.
There’s probably nothing going on between these two and the media thinks that if they push on the rumour something might come out of it, it’s like the media/tvb wants them to be an item more than they do themselves!
OMG…those patrons must be really lucky to be served by Ruco. I would be drooling for sure… :-).
He looks so good with his new grown hair !!!
@funnlim yeah would be weird if anyone can just walk in and be served by Ruco!!
@chocobunny No idea. Friend of a friend. NOw come to think of it surely must be by invite? Can’t just walk in?!
@funnlim 4th to 8th May 2015
What! He washed the restrooms?
@funnlim Beam Cafe . Did he really serve your friend? Omg how lucky is she!! I thought it was partially closed for filming?
@rainbow28 Her character died but the actress is very much alive unless she did die in obscurity. Highly unlikely.
@funnlim Yes, The Greed of Man’s story is OTT, there’s no doubt about that — in fact, both the producer and scriptwriters of the series have acknowledged this point (I remember the scriptwriter Tsang Kan Cheung himself using the words “crazy” and “over-the-top” to describe the script, especially the sections that Wai Kar Fai himself wrote). WKF is known for pushing the limits and exploring the dark side of human nature with his series, so of course we’re not going to expect anything tame from him — The Final Verdict was a crazy series too and so was War of the Dragon, yet both are also great classics from the 80s. Oh and how about Looking Back in Anger, which is widely considered as one of TVB’s greatest series of all time (deservedly so and absolutely agree, of course) – there was some ‘crazy’ stuff in there too (typical of WKF’s productions), yet no one will refute that series is an absolute classic! Perhaps it boils down to one’s definition of “classic” – personally, I don’t see how the story being OTT and unconventional kicks it out of the “classic” category….but then again, it’s subjective, I guess.
@peanutbutterjelly Of course there are ‘crappy’ series from the 70s/80s/90s eras as well – no one is saying that ALL the series from those eras were good and there was nothing bad….just because those series aren’t mentioned as often doesn’t mean they don’t exist. By the same token, no one is saying that ALL the series from the after 2000s period were bad either – in fact there were quite a few gems that came out of that era (if we want to go the ‘list’ route, I have a list of favorite series from that era as well). But there is no denying the fact that from an overall ratio perspective, the number of ‘good’ series (memorable, influential, high caliber, great script, great acting, etc. etc.) was definitely higher back in the old days compared to now (or, to borrow from sodi’s comment below, the number of ‘hits’ was greater than the number of ‘misses’) – that’s really the point that most of us are trying to make. It’s not really a ‘bashing match’ of TVB’s series per se, but rather the stating of facts that refute Roger’s denial of the quality of TVB’s series going down. Of course, at the end of the day, just like with everything else, it comes down to a matter of personal preference and taste – everyone relates to series differently depending on their experiences….what I like may be different from what you like and vice versa, just like how some of us may disagree with Roger and agree with Kenneth while others may feel opposite.
In terms of ratings – I’ve always been opposed to using ratings to determine a series’ quality (or lack thereof) – of course, that’s a personal sentiment of mine only, as I am not blind to the fact that as much as I may not like it or agree with it, the ‘end all, be all’ measurement to a program’s success in the TV industry will always be ratings, just like box office sales will always be the determining measurement for movies. By the way, back when The Greed of Man first aired in the early 90s, the ratings were bad as well and there were tons of criticism / complaints over the ‘dark’ nature of the series (in fact, that’s one reason why Wai Kar Fai had to cut some of the more ‘disturbing’ scenes from the series, such as the part where the Fong siblings are thrown to their deaths from the top of the building). The fact that ratings can be affected by numerous external factors that may not have anything to do with the series itself makes it an ineffective measurement source in my book.
@rainbow28 First time ever heard about that. I have to check with google and find nothing. Are you sure that Michelle Saram is dead? Because I only see that she got married and left the industry.
@funnlim I thought Michelle Saram already died from cancer. How can Louis invite a dead person to film?
@peanutbutterjelly I always think of a random discussion as me meeting someone with a thought that peaks my curiosity and pulling up a seat to casually discuss over a drink. The internet sucks at conveying tone so please don’t feel like I’m being defensive or offensive in any way, I edit to a more neutral tone because of how easy the message gets jitter on the interweb.
After reading that article, Superman would fit more as being all perfect for Gary Stu. That same discussion happened years ago and Batman is so emotionally broken and the only pure thing about him is no guns and no killing, what makes Batman so compelling was that he’s close to being one but never is. Batman never wins if you think about it, he wins individual fights but Gotham only gets worse and as time progresses, it all results in a net loss for him albeit a slower rate. Disregarding the fact that he can never have a normal life, he also alieniates friends and foes alike the more time goes on. He has his admirers and allies, some like him but the majority respect and fear him, that’s far from saying he’s a likeable guy, its just better to be his friend rather than his enemy. Superman on the flip side actually has godlike powers, pretty much everyone likes him as a poster boy for good, etc. and even develops new powers when needed courtesy of our yellow sun and does no wrong. The rare times he’s ever near bad or downright evil is either a passing moment of weakness or in the alternate universe, surprisingly Batman jumps on board without much of a debate whereas the others go through some moral conflict which is part of the analysis made by Joker that Batman and him are only a thread apart showing just how deeply scarred he really is. Did I mention Superman is also smarter than Batman?
I see what you mean though by it being problematic through that article, but I think the bigger problem at hand is how ingrained people are in trying to be politically correct. It reminds me of the Ellen Pao case that businesses need to market itself as politically correct and be presentable at the cost of promoting people who aren’t nearly qualified. Society has become too sensitive to issues like sexism, racism and feminism and everyone wants to be on the right side of things so the whip comes out cracking when anything perceived incorrect is immediately stamped out. Except this has also given rise to the victim mentality and other things for people to exploit and hide behind which completely changes the original meaning and what the leaders had fought for.
I also agree that being Mary Sue doesn’t make it automatically bad or one dimensional, I’m merely focusing on the point that it is what it is and there’s nothing wrong with it. We shouldn’t let a negative connotation or stigma surrounding the word refrain us from using it, as long as there’s sound support as to why you use it then no one can really fault you for having an opinion.
They’re soo staged. It’s too much of a coincidence that Kevin’s conversation with the rookie couple was recorded, eventually leaked out. He has been in the industry for a while now and should be wary of paparazzi. Not believable one bit. more like publicity stunt for their drama. How is it btw?
@alluka Oh, I agree. The point was commercial =/= critical success. There’s a difference for sure between we made a lot of money and this was satisfying on a creative level. This is the same, as you said, of Transformers and Ultron was only made because it had to be, Whedon was already swamped with A.O.S. But I do like how we’re moving off of Iron Man now and Cap has the spotlight now, it brings a more earth-bound feel going into Phase Three and he has more of a tie-in to his other work.
The best part is yung Ching hunting siu lung
Cute cute! Congratulations to the both of them! So happy for them. I’m sure they’ve gone through a lot during their long courtship. It’s very exciting to see that his career is finally taking off!
Which shop? No wonder a friend told me her friend walked into a coffee shop only to be served by Ruco. I was like when was he in malaysia anyway? Now I see!!
You know this is one well documented relationship. Doesn’t know one another to liking each other to borrowing DVDs to liking each other to etc etc etc. Every step of the way.
The movie has room to write. Actually the series and the original novel are not similar so the movie can run with a different plot to the series. Or it can just cut a part and make a story instead of running through the whole novel/series.
Personally, I hope the plot of the movie is closer to the novel than the series.
@sodi Actually TITS the movie can only consider as a commercial success in its hometown: Hongkong. In China, it cant make top 10 of box office at that moment despite the promotions.
Avengers 2 is a stepping stone but it is still a commercial success. It isnt as interesting as Avenger but not a bad movie. If saying of commercial success, I will take Transformer series as an example. Avengers 2 at least can bring something memorable and hints for the Phase Three.
@funnlim Frankly, Im not a fan of HKTV. I dont like its two hits Borderline and Election. I also quit To be or not to be half way. However I think The menu is different to other HKTV. It is the only HKTV series that I enjoy so much. The color and storyline is much better to the standard of a HK current TVB series. So Im not falling into the group of anti TVB to praise The menu to sky high in order to pull down TVB. I think you should give it a try to see why it gets that much of praises for acting and script.
I personally think TVB is running out of scripts. They are continuously making sequels even to a not-successful-enough series like Big Wheel (I dont even rmb its English name) just because one character is loved in it. They are trying to make movie version from the successful series for the same commercial purposes but cant make their own movie scripts. At the same time, they copy from other series (including Korean, Chinese, Japanese, US, etc. series). They also lack artists but it is still a not-so-big matter comparing with the demand of script. I watched 3 series of 2015 and they are just in meh standard. Only good to kill time when there is nothing else to watch. Watching Limelight years and feeling it is like a rip off series of some other series with a script with flaws.
Site discussion: Comparing Marvel and DC Comics style is like comparing apple and orange. Although they are both super power movies, the concepts that Marvel and DC comics are running are like black and white. Marvel wants a large, rapid and bright universal with humors. DC comics aims a darker world where the characters have dark past. So you cant mix those two in one way.
I only agree that Zhen Huan is far from a Mary Sue.
@sodi I will say I agree that there are a lot of the same type of wishfullfilment characters and a little more diversity in characterization wouldn’t hurt. However, being a wishfullfilment characater or ‘mary sue’ doesn’t automatically make it a bad or one dimensional character . I stand by my point that most male Jing Yong protagonists are so-called ‘mary sues’ -especially yang guo- who have the “super handsome, super good, super talented moral compass of the show, super pool of love interests, ultimately becoming the super wu lin superhero” characteristics. Being idealized doesn’t necessary mean one dimensional, you can be a threedimensional mary sue. Same goes for Louis Koo’s character in ASITP.
However, I’m not here to argue wether or not these male characters are so-called mary sues or not but I just want you to see that it’s pretty evident that the term is almost exclusively aimed towards female characters, very rarely do people think twice about male characters being sues (I’ve seen your male examples and I know there are male characters that are classified as such but there are still more male characters that ‘get a way with it’ so to speak, such as my examples above). It’s as if only when women have their idealized or wishfullfilment characters in fiction it becomes a problem.
Of course I know you have no malicious or sexist intent but do see why this term can be seen as problematic, this is an interesting read if you’re interested:
I really hope she can let go her sad past and get back on track to start new life.
@funnlim You do realize that blurb you pulled out was directed towards specific stories that have them when they were Internet novels, right? If I’m unclear on that, I’ll clear that up with that and mention once more that authors themselves realize this too but since it’s a means of living, they don’t mind it. Though it’s important to mention that Zhen Huan got a lot of flak for the first half of the show from critics and Internet users.
I agree that sticking to one’s principles isn’t Mary Sue but overly being stuck to being good is because of the obvious of whom she is. The generalized modern definition is ‘fan fiction’ as the first part followed by typical traits that make for poor character development and too perfect to be real. Perhaps you’re agreeing with me in a different way, but an idol itself is a tailored perfect image for followers to worship. Wu Zetian in the show is, as I said, a fan fiction (tailored image of her) insert because none of her personality is anything near her real self. We’re talking about a historical figure well documented to have willingly wanting to seduce the emperor and not a starry-eyed lost girl whom the emperor suddenly felt a connection to. The first part with Li shimin already borders fantasy whereas she was kept at a distance in reality though praised (there was a sexual relationship too). Not too much to ask for a bit more three dimensional personality and a little creativity.
I’m not sure what they will cut in the TVB ver, since it’s 70 episodes? compared to the 96 episodes but you’re looking for at least 80% of the episodes to be the same with next to no development and her suddenly becoming brilliant enough to enter battle, practically skilled in everything imaginable, doing things that make you question the logic of the show, etc.
TVB won’t die, I’m not even sure how some people can think that unless they get ATV level management. The government has also ensured its survival but they will be ditching HK soon anyway as a monopoly will lead them down a dark tunnel so targeting China alone makes good business sense, HKTV has too much political undertone in their dramas puts doubt into approval for a license. Not really sure where anti-tvb came from but I do remember you posting something similar before iirc. I’ll be one to admit HKTV has had average dramas to date as well, Beyond the Rainbow won’t be a great story/script but will have fine acting from the cast similar to how TBONTB cast really brought itself to life.
The main problem I see, again, is that the fight for the next generation isn’t swinging in their favor because of the status quo they keep maintaining in their productions and its been clear its not what the audience has been wanting. The hits versus misses so far though is definitely in HKTV’s favor, quick look at HK Golden and the insane amount of coverage for The Menu (who also have ties to their other critically well received dramas) cast more or less proves that.
Why would anyone diss OTB, that series was so good. Even if it wasn’t top notch memorable, it was definitely good enough to be up among some of the best stuff.
@sodi “Mary Sue type stories like The Legend of Zhen Huan”
Zhen Huan was hardly Mary Sue. Wu Zetian is not quite Mary Sue. All these characters started out innocent and learn their way of the worlds when deceived again and again. Sticking to ones principle of being good isn’t Mary Sue although I will say Dae Janggeum is Mary Sue in a way. The stories have to progress and characters have to progress and so they must start somewhere and end somewhere else. The only characters that never change is in K Drama and I don’t see anyone ever complaining about the one line progression.
By the way I am surprised how everyone is claiming Greed Of Men is such a great classic, etc. When I first watched it the story was OTT and it still is. Time dulls minds I suppose.
Old Time Buddies came from the golden revival of TVB. Anyone dissing OTB has no idea what they’re talking about.
And I saw Age Of Ultron twice. Apart from Captain America I will say Avengers movies were enjoyable because the individuals actors were well cast. I will worry more for that superman/batman franchise.
TVB is not dying. Hardly. They’re trying to change unfortunately still same old formula. They think adding controversial scenes and more kissing and sex is the way but it is just temporary.
As for HKTV, I have read so much praises for The Menu. But perhaps these same group are ones who want to grab at something anti TVB that is good enough that they praise it sky high. Nevertheless I am watching Beyond The Rainbow and Episode 1 was typical TVB sort of mess except nicer camera quality and I recognise all the actors except if the same actors were to be in a TVB production, you will hear criticisms like same old same old. Frankly it is not fresh or new but the actors maketh the story right now. The story itself is atypical. Am hoping for a breakthrough.
As for Wuzetian, still watching but I am under no illusion this is an Idol drama version with better actors.
@peanutbutterjelly I don’t particularly find it sexist, at least not if you apply it correctly and this can swing both ways. If someone goes around throwing the term often then yes, it forms a basis for potential misogyny or misandry if other angles are factored in.
Wu Zetian being Mary Sue here is because she’s been idealized by the script to the point she pretty much plays out like a fan fiction insert. Aside from the typical traits, you’ve got even more out of place things like her donning on military gear and being on a battlefield. [SPOILER ALERT] They pretty much keep this going till very late into the show and clearly avoid anything to do with her actual rule which is a more entertaining aspect of her actual self [END OF SPOILER]. For a historical figure that has been well documented to the point you can form a believable personality, this character is way off in la la land.
If you also noticed, I said “the millionth time”? Its because a lot of these things is part of a larger trend that has been affecting adolescent girls. Now that China has opened up, the maturity rate of children has accelerated. This is all well documented and if you look at interviews with authors who primarily focus on Mary Sue type stories like The Legend of Zhen Huan, Magic Imperial Concubine, etc. They’re aware of it but it pays the bills so why not? Some of them have even divulged how at ages as young as 10 that a large portion of their female classmates would write this but they were the ones who kept on writing while the rest gave up.
As for Gary Stu, they’re there too. Most noticeable was Wesley Crusher from Star Trek: TNG where he played out to be a deus ex machinima before they scrapped him by giving him powers beyond the comprehension of humanity. Yang Guo was three dimensional enough that he wouldn’t count and he couldn’t do everything, it took him a long time before he reached hero status. Louis Koo in ASTIP you will have to dissect carefully, because he actually traveled back in time then it makes sense for him to be the focal point of everybody given his conspicuous way of doing things.
Words themselves aren’t offensive, if our aim is for them to be hurtful towards someone than yes, that would fit the bill. As long as they’re backed up when it’s murky or if something is blantently obvious that it fits then I see no problem with saying what it is for what it is.
I totally agreed with what you commented about the three couples.
@sodi Idk I think the concept of mary sue is pretty sexist. I mean I know there is a male equivalent of the term but let’s face it, that’s exclusively used for describing female characters. Otherwise why is no one calling Yang guo or other jing Yong characters ‘Gary stues’ (they definitely fit the bill) ? Or what about louis koo’ s character in ‘a step into the past’ (handsome, smart, everyone loves him and falls in love with him , has a solution for everything, perfect character all around)?
@llwy12 Just to play the devil’s advocate here:
I always hear people keep complaining about the decline of quality of TVB dramas and comparing them to classics like ‘the Greed of man’ but the crappy 70’s 80’s and 90’s series never get mentioned? Surely those exists?
I honestly believe that some people are way too blinded by nostalgia, my father for example never liked ‘the greed of man’ and always say how 70’s and 80’s series are better.
I’d even argue that dramas such as ‘War and beauty’ and ‘Rosy business’ will be remembered as classics twenty years down the road and people will say how those are one of the best tvb dramas.
It’s not even like that TVB haven’t tried what HKTV is doing now (high production value, great storyline): look at ‘When heaven burns’ but look at what happened: average to bad ratings. I’m a fan of HKTV dramas and I hope they’ll succeed but I still fear for their survival constantly in HK.
I even listed some TVB series of the past decade that I liked (but of course this list is all personal opinion as I didn’t include super popular series like for example ‘wars of in-laws’ or ‘beyond the realm of conscience’ because I find those drama bad):
Life Made Simple (2005)
Shades of truth (2005)
Misleading track (2005)
The Academy (2005)
Revolving Doors of Vengeance (2005)
La Femme Desperado (2006)
The Dance of Passion (2006)
Land of Wealth (2006)
Net Deception (2006)
Dicey Business (2006)
Fathers and sons (2007)
Heart of Greed (2007)
Catch me Now (2008)
A Journey called life (2008)
The Four (2008)
Rosy business (2009)
You’re hired (2009)
A Chip off the old block (2009)
Sweetness in the salt (2009)
A Great way to care (2009)
No Regrets (2010)
When Lanes merge (2010)
Every Move you make (2010)
Ghost Writer (2010)
A Fistful of Stances (2010)
Twilight Investigation (2010)
Beauty know no pain (2010)
Gun Metal Grey (2010)
Lives of Omission (2011)
Ghetto Justice (2011)
The Other Truth (2011)
7 Days in Life (2011)
Bottled Passion (2011)
When Heaven Burns (2011)
The confidant (2012)
The hippocratic crush (2012)
Highs and lows (2012)
Gloves come off (2012)
Tiger Cubs (2012)
Bounty Lady (2013)
A change of heart (2013)
Always and ever (2013)
Inbound troubles (2013)
Line Walker (2014)
Black Heart White soul (2014)
Come on, cousin (2014)
Never dance alone (2014)
Ruse of Engagement (2014)
Tomorrow is another day (2014)
Shades of Life (2014)
Raising the bar (2015)
I’m not arguing against the fact that TVB had a way more glorious period in the past and that may or may not be due to their passion towards their dramas but we have to remember these things: it’s a different time, young people have more options (a lot of HK youth watch US television shows online) so of course TVB needs to cling on to and pander to their housewife demographic, it’s a business after all.
Yammi kinda looks like Tsa Siu Yan (the famous talk host) in above picture.
I hope she gets some sincere, no-agendas support and help she needs to move on healthily.
@looooooooooo Commercial success =/= good movie.
The Avengers: Age of Ultron is a commercial success but it’s only mediocre. Why? Because Josh Whedon didn’t really want to write for it and the movie is only meant as a stepping stone to end MCU Phase Two and prepare for Phase Three which includes Infinity Wars in 2018/2019 as well as setting up for the next individual movies that will build up to that. Notice how the whole movie kept giving off hints of things to come and Thanos plus the infinity stones rather than Ultron? It was more of an obligation to watch it and you could feel something was off on the creativity level.
Similar situation, riding on the name of TITS and famous names brought it success but the movie itself wasn’t all that entertaining whatsoever.
Agree with everything said..
But supposedly Faye ” still wishes to have a baby with Nicholas” … which necessitates the marriage to give legal status of Tse to their baby. (at 48)
Me too. It is a cult series
Raymond lam ‘s character might be a villian
i wonder what the plot is going to be like?? ahh i hope all the oroginal cast agree to return!!! 😀
i made an account just to comment on this LOL omg
this is my fav drama of all time!!! i gre up watching this drama. i rewatched this more than 7 times LOL louis koo was perfect!! i hope the movie will be good T__T
She is rich and she can retire for good.
@funnlim she can be an Uyghur girl or an Indian princess or something lol
I’d die for a remake or spiritual sequel !!
I love this drama so much that I try to re-watch the entire series once a year.
@kolo “i dont believe tvb can ever produce a drama with the level of a greed of man again.”
Very true. Not only the high caliber actors/actresses and the script, also the collaborative effort is no longer there. Excerpts from TGOM’s script were recently published and one of the scriptwriters who had participated in writing the script back then (currently still employed by TVB, now promoted to script supervisor) commented how the director filmed the scenes almost verbatim the way it was written (plus the acting was very meticulous too) and the result was powerful. She questioned whether the directors nowadays don’t have the ability / experience to interpret the script properly or perhaps don’t care as much, as there have been times when the scriptwriters would write a powerful scene in great detail, yet when the director tries to film it, the end result is entirely different.
This is one reason why I’m so opposed to the rumored movie re-make of TGOM that TVB/Shaw Bros supposedly has plans for — there’s no way that they’ll be able to “re-create” the same success, especially if the original behind-the-scenes crew (producer / director / scriptwriter) won’t be involved with the project.
@alluka Yup. As much as I love Roger, I have to disagree with him on the Old Time Buddies thing too. I also enjoyed that series immensely despite not being a fan of the cast and not being from the Shaw Brothers era. Though he’s correct on the piece about productions having to match what audiences want, the problem is that TVB DOESN’T listen to audiences, so that comment doesn’t really apply.
I echo everyone’s sentiments about the nostalgia toward series from the old days (70s/80s/90s). The older series are indeed more memorable and higher quality in terms of script, acting, seriousness of production, etc. If TVB can’t even outdo their own series from the past and instead continue to take steps backwards, they are in serious danger of becoming obsolete.
@alluka,”the current series have low quality scripts. The dialogues are not as interesting and memorable as before.”
absolutely true,not only script but also the story and new actors are not that interesting and memorable as before. not that tvb cant produce good drama’s but its not that top quality as before such as the greed of man and many other classics. i dont believe tvb can ever produce a drama with the level of a greed of man again.
if they tie the knot so much drama for HK paparazzi to write… at her age I don’t think its even necessarily to even get married again she went through 2 already and its a failure… does she really think 3rd time is a charm? Nic on the other side just give him more headache … lol
Tits the movie is a commercial success
I may disagree with what he said. For example, Im definitely not a fan of Gallen Lo but I enjoy Old Time Buddies so so much. I watched it after years since its first air but its quality still met my standard of a good series. On the other hand, the current series have low quality scripts. The dialogues are not as interesting and memorable as before. When I first started with TVB and until 2000s, I can remember quotes in many series. Now? I even dont bother to remember any quotes as they dont fit the current social.
@sodi I also agree 100%!
Catherine Chau is a great example of what is inherently wrong with TVB (and also why it’s so critical to have other options in the form of additional TV stations to generate more opportunities for artists). It’s absolutely ludicrous for TVB to let 17 years go by without recognizing her talent — though I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, since that’s the norm with TVB. Leung Kin Ping is another example — he was with TVB for close to 30 years and continued to be a ‘nobody’ until he ventured out, joining HKTV and also making movies….now he is finally gaining some recognition on an international level (the movie he starred in won an award at the Canadian Film Festival).
@arc78 Should note that the movie, if true, isnt made by Shaw Brother. So it shouldnt be classed in the same category with TITS movie.
@coralie You should see how people react to the planned cast for the new remake version of 尋秦記. The younger artists are cast but when comparing the news of a movie remake with old cast, the new cast is bashed by the netizens.
@freedalas While it’s true that TVB is starting to come out with “better” dramas now (and I use the word “better” only in comparisons to TVB’s own series from the past decade or so), unfortunately it’s too little, too late. The way I see it — after feeding us (audiences) trash for more than a decade, now they [TVB] try to upgrade to porridge, but it’s too late — we’ve got abalone now [HKTV]). Like sodi said below, the advent of HKTV has drastically changed the playing field as there is physical proof now that HKTV’s series are levels above TVB in almost every aspect (casting, script, acting, filming method, production values, etc.). To be honest, TVB’s problem isn’t just that they lack talent — yes, that’s a contributing factor, but everything else counts as well: all the above, plus attitude and sincerity, with the latter 2 (attitude and sincerity) being the areas where TVB has had the most problems in recent years. And even though TVB has made a few improvements the past 2 to 3 years, the heart of the problem is still there — their arrogant attitude, antiquated / restrictive policies, and overly conservative way of doing things all have not changed….unless they are willing to change in these areas, they will never make real progress. Oh and no, throwing money at the issue isn’t the answer – that is, unless they do what Ricky Wong did, which is not just throw money but also put heart and sincerity into it as well.
This is one of my favorite TVB dramas of all time! Hope the movie will be good and not turn out like Triumph in the Skies movie.
Agreed 100%. Very well written.
Michelle still look really fit
Same cast as different character also no mind
Kong Wah is a brilliant actor
Dream comes true
Yahoo ,luv it
Before HKTV aired it might still squeeze by with a grain of truth. After watching the big three from HKTV, it more or less solidifies the argument that TVB has dropped the ball on an epic level.
Their strategy to retain the see lai crowd is crumbling and their solution of popular mainland drama / film foray is nothing more than wool over your eyes by showing a nicer production budget but same old rehash. Wu Zetian is a perfect example of the same thing done for the millionth time, her character is so Mary Sue and aside from a few historical events they can’t ignore the rest is just average at best. In short, it’s not Wu Zetian, its just a fantasy of what producers want her to be mixed in with very little history and an average draggy script selling itself based on the name alone.
TVB also likes to argue that people watch online, except guess what… people who know their way around the Internet are tuning into Korean, Japanese and Western dramas. Even my mom is a lot pickier after being exposed to HKTV, at least she knows why I’m always only half tuning in when we watch TVB at dinnertime.
The past is something people dwell on because it absolutely destroys anything they have been able to produce in recent years. The best shock value TVB can seem to come up with is a rape scene that last a couple of seconds. To name a few, what happened to great characters like Michael Hui (Sunny Chan / Threshold of an Era – 1999) who turned on everybody in his pursuit of fame and fortune once he lost the struggle between his noble self and the darker aspects of reality or Ben Ding ( Deric Wan – Looking Back in Anger 1989) who killed the woman he calls mother after raising him as her own in order to cover himself up and continue to enjoy high society after going power hungry. They haven’t been able to bring back that character depth, storyline, etc.
But its not like it doesn’t exist! Former TVB people made The Menu and look how much fame and recognition it brought to the cast. That’s another thing they need to seriously address, the talent. The difference in watching Catherine Chau against someone in her own age group like Kate Tsui or Linda Chung is so staggering I’m wondering if we can make a special award and just give it to her for Fong Ying instead this year at the award ceremony.
HK Golden Forums conducted an online vote recently and HKTV series alongside actors/actresses took every top spot available.
Main problem is going to be them losing out on future generations who grew up with the Internet and not TV. Pretty much those of us who are adults from Gen Y (1980+) aren’t tuning anymore because there’s an abundant amount of better material as border constraints are knocked down in the wake of Internet.
@funnlim He probably didn’t invite her because she died in the original series. Plus her role wasn’t meant to be big to begin with, so therefore there isn’t much to her storyline. Although Kong Wah also died in the original series too but his role was much bigger than Michelle’s.
Agree with Kenneth, disagree with most of what Rogers said.
This is also one of my favorite TVB drama of all-time. I hope they can bring back all, if not, most of the original cast. I also agree that Raymond acts better in this series, than most of his subsequent projects. I hope this truly happens and that Raymond can reprise his role. It won’t be the same without him.
Missionary either way, is probably not one of his favorite positions, was my first thought on reading that.
Yupz, not exactly nice of his friend to share this info with the world.
There was indeed a period when TVB was churning out run of the mill dramas and so it deserves the criticism leveled by viewers and veteran actors/actresses.
To be fair though, TVB is working hard to address this and going by recent dramas, it seems to be on the right path. Dramas like Raising The Bar, Romantic Repertoire and the current hit Limelight Years are examples of TVB putting in much more thought for the story lines, scripting dialogues with deeper meanings and injecting more realism. The endings are better too as compared to very rushed endings previously.
This pic of Faye resembles Jessica Hsuan.
I don’t think they’ll ever tie the knot.
WCL & Leanne have aesthetic disparity, but they match in terms of personality, goals and stage in life. Typically women aren’t as concerned about looks as much as men, so…no issue there.
Linda & Philip have an income gap. That is typically an issue with Asian culture. Asian guys get the labels of being “Soft Rice King” and relying on their women for income. Maybe Phillip/Linda cares about that so they keep their relationship under wraps. OR MAYBE they just don’t like nosy naysayers getting into their business. I lean more towards the latter.
But age – it is big factor in relationships. Are they both looking for similar things despite the age gap? Is Grace ready to drop her career and be a full time mom? Because that’s most likely what Kevin’s expecting her to do. He’s not young; he wants to settle down. When both parties are at different stages in life, they won’t want the same thing and that pressure to conform to your partner can add to a lot of resentment. Also when an older guy is dating a woman that much younger, there’s usually a sense of controlling that gets involved. They’re scared the younger partner will leave the relationship or cheat on them.
Omg yes! This is one of my favorite dramas from TVB to date. I still watch reruns from time to time.
I was actually more impressed by Raymond’s acting in here than a lot of his subsequent roles (Eternal Happiness being the exception.) I also loved Louis’ personality and his playful acting plus his looks in the drama…but I felt his acting was only mediocre. Still, his character is still one of my favorite.
If they all reprised their roles…well that would be interesting. However, I don’t feel like Louis or the other leading ladies or even Kong Wah are even at that age to do these kinds of roles anymore. Better they find other actors and actresses to do them…even if I loved RL’s acting in here, I would also suggest someone younger to play his part.
Awwww no invitation to your one time crush Michelle Saram??
My all time favorite series… hope the movie won’t spoil the good memories I have of it.
I agree on what he says but the current status of TVB drama is lacking actors and actress they gotta fix that issue beforehand… we often see the same leads.
I remember being crazy all over this drama when I was a kid… lol Hope this comes true and nothing beats the original cast!
I kinda agree with what he saying.
I do not quite understand what you mean by Qing dynasty series not being current. Do you mean you are just tired of Qing dynasty series? I have noticed too many Qing dynasty series are being made,but series from other dynasties are not made as often.
I have not seen a good Wuxia series from TVB/Hk for a long time. However,I have been enjoying many great wuxia series from China. Therefore,I also do not get what you mean by letting “that China guy destroy good legacy”? Didn’t you enjoy some China series before? China has truly surpassed TVb in the wuxia area ages ago so you wonder if Tvb can ever catch up?
I think his friend is just too excited when seeing big improvement on Jay due to his help. I understand this feeling. If you evaluate you can treat your sickness, then you keep quiet, but if you come to the level that you have no hope, just share it, maybe someone will help you, even though the one help you might be the one hates you very much, it’s your luck, and to have good luck, before that you just treated well with everyone. It’s just a sickness, everyone has sickness, very common thing, no need to feel shy and hide. If you get a disease because e.g. playing bad thing, then you should keep quiet.
I think exercise is best thing for pain. My advice is just don’t use pain killer medicine as much as possible
I feel bad for him… :'(
Not exactly in good taste for his friend to reveal that though…
TVB will not film a Wuxia drama in the foreseeable future, given the immense risk to partake in such a venture.
TVB, try to move away from Qing series. It is no longer current. Go back to wuxia! Don’t let that China guy destroy good legacy!
I had a feeling this series is either modern or pre modern but with a touch of “ancientness”(if that is the right word) with wudang and martial arts,which gives this series a pre modern feeling. Thanks for the link. I have seen many China wuxia series with real landscape from China and all so seeing the real wudang is not really new to me. However,for a Tvb series to have that is new since they are so cheap on traveling and production value if you know what I mean.
@hetieshou, this drama is based in modern time,im looking forward because they films this drama in the real wudang mountain temple in china, plus there are many martial artist in this drama like chin siu ho,derek kwok,Yuen Chau and a real high skilled martial art master from wudang who also play a part in it. if you are interested i have a link here which you can see students who going to wudang mountain to learn wudang martial arts.
I do not want to jinx it so let’s wait and see. I have not seen a good ancient series from TVB for a very long time so I really miss it.
Good question Funn. I think it is a pre modern series based on the clothing and descriptions above. It is definitely not a true ancient series as I think those are now extinct at Tvb due to their lack of resources and cheap budgets.
@kolo I haven’t seen any bts or poster pics. Synopsis did not mention when so I was confused. Story kinda old fashioned but tavia looks modern so I say modern times.
@funnlim i think this is something special,one that im looking forward to it.
@funnlim what do yourself think?,looking at the cloth and hairstyle i think they are in the tang dynasty,lol.
@funnlim By the way is this a modern day series?
Haven’t seen a good kung fu series from TVB lately.Plot sounds convulated, poster looks overly photoshopped but otherwise am looking forward to this.
Well if that is the case her fallout with him over a Shanghainese woman and his fallout with her because he is a third party. Basically this is not K drama where love is one line but pure TVB drama.
@jay08 haha. shows that I am objective. But seriously, credit should be given when credit is due. Linda has made her role very likable and watchable. And I must add that her chemistry with Alex is superb, a cute couple that keeps us interested in how their relationship would develop,
@freedalas WOW I cannot believe what I’m reading from you about Linda Chung. Finally a post without bashing Linda? Lol. Thanks. So far 司徒迪迪 have become Linda fans favourite character and yes she is indeed hilarious in so many scenes! Make me laugh a lot too!
Didn;t stop him from fathering a child.
Yes this drama is the best so far this year. Linda’s character is my favourite.
I’m really enjoying it so far Linda and Alex looks fresh together as a couple im chasing this series everyday
true……Linda was not an outstanding performer however in Limelight years…..she was ok…..
This drama deserves the good ratings it has received. The story line is fresh and meaningful with sub-plots of individual characters syncing well with the main plot. There is a good dosage of touching scenes pulling at one”s heartstrings without them being over-dramatized. The dialogue is rich with wise sayings and at the same time quite funny.
Credit to all the actors for doing a very good job. Besides Liza and Damian’s strong performances, the others also pulled their weight including Linda Chung who I have been criticizing for her previous dramas. But in this one, she is comfortably natural in her role, and brought on plenty of laughs without over-acting. Linda has sort of redeemed herself in my view and hopefully she has found her strengths that TVB would recognize and stop casting her in ridiculous roles as in Tiger Cub 2.
oh yeah? here we are not embarking on an general intellectual discourse of may-september relationships, which at best are just academic. we are talking about a specific couple and to me Kevin and Grace have passed the first test of looking great together and the second of being very comfortable and a third test of being open about it. Compare this to Linda Chung and Philip Ng relationship which is not an age-gap factor but yet they neither look good nor comfortable with each other. Worse still, they are hiding their relationship! So stop all high-sounding pretentious arguments and instead focus on specific couples for no two couples are alike that can be treated equally with general comments.
Luckly his wife already pregnant. But it’s not so nice for his friend to share his medical problem…
@candy Charmaine is very pretty and i agree its Kevin’s loss
Charmaine used to date Kevin???Wow… #Charray
@huynh “she seems rather uncomfortable.” yes i agee, here is the whole interview.
you can see that she has suffered a lot in the past,hope she can find happiness in her life again.
@pikap YEAAAAAH! i was thinking back about the sex report about him asking anjaylia too! It all makes sense now, i guess he was already interested in Grace at the time thats why he asked !
I believe tess is implying that Wilfred isn’t good enough for Joey, and that she’s better off bearing a child in the near future as her biological clock is soon due for a natural birth.
Tess, are you Joey’s mom?
@freedalas so your argument is only skin deep…
Sire Ma is finished. She’s good as dead in the entertainment industry. Her greed really spoil her career.
We should not be speaking generally about the age-gap issue between a couple. Arguments for and against will go nowhere. We should instead by directing our comments on specific couples. In this case, Kevin and Grace. As I said somewhere earlier, they really look great together. Both are attractive with pleasant demeanor. As the saying goes, “they look great on each other”. So why not? On the other hand, we have Cho Lam and Leanne. Though age-gap is not an issue with these two, but they look awful together. One is tall and attractive, the other short and ugly. And that’s I call totally incompatible!
Kevin asking anjaylia’s bf how he handles no sex was probably in preparation for dating grace. The media mentioned that she’s a Christian and that she’s a virgin and doesn’t believe in premarital sex.
@chinakat168 try to say that again if kevin is willing to date a 67 yrs old woman.
To me age is just a number.
@funnlim you got to have the foundation first
@funnlim At least she’s “older” than Hannah Quinlivan.
@orchid123 She probably thought it was a porn movie and need not memorize the script. LOL
I think Sire Ma is stupid to ruin her filming career like this…………………
KC calls Grace “Honey” already so it seems to be a real date.
@tess She is still dating Wifrey Lau, so why she has to search for another guy?
@chocobunny it sounds like a publicity stunt to me too, kevin’s never been so open about his relationships…what makes this one different other than to promote the drama?
@jadio HAHAHAHA i’m the same age as Grace and i’ve always had a humongous crush on Kevin…and thought i was too young for him ahha =P guess not
It’s scary when Kevin emphasise on wanting to get married and have kids. Like wtf. He may be old to be a dad, but Grace career just picked up. So she have to get ready to be pregnant and be a mum now???
Kevin sounds interested but Grace is more guarded. Somehow still think this is all made up for some publicity only.
They are history! The press should leave her alone. Besides her opinions on Grace doesn’t matter to Kevin either. She is just his ex, not mother!
Her biological clock is the ticking away…so she should keep searching and I bet she could afford a surrogate by the time she found Prince Charming.
So they are really dating, huh? The thought of she was still an infant when we was 22 makes me feel disgusted. Well…guess love is blind…
Kevin no loss. Cos she is not 22-23 yrs old anymore. 20 plus years not a problem? Y don’t Kevin try dating someone 62 yrs old woman instead????
Charmaine, you are so much more classy and beautiful than Grace. It’s Kevin’s loss!
And here I am thinking I was too young for Kevin Cheng at 26… XD
The dark-haired goatee look really does not suit Kevin at all.
@funnlim I believe Kevin’s answer hints that they are in the early stages of dating. Kevin and Grace are very generous in their praises of each other. In the conservative HK circle, if an actor states that he wants to ask out an actress, I believe it means that they are already going out, but they don’t want to air their relationship so publicly.
Still doesn’t answer whether they are dating.
If he wants kids, and marriage, he should start looking for an older woman who is ready to settle down. Grace is just starting, she probably wants to date a few years.
While I enjoy her acting …
Jessica was ‘chunkier when she started out, and for a few years after. She also had a tendency to look older than her peers then.
Then she slimmed down to svelte midway, and she looked really good.
Maybe that earlier period and subsequent slimming has left an impression, and she doesn’t want to go back to looking like before.
Whatever. I have always her independent modern attitude, compared to some of her peers, who always need to latch onto one man after another fails..
What’s the world becoming like? Celebrity openly admit to extramarital affair and mistress standing righteously in public eyes. So sad
You probably will, in the last 5 minutes. Everybody will reach an ideal state ..in the last 5 minutes.
the sight of her boobies must be creating a swelling effect on weenies.
not gonna lie, her boobs looks really nice on that white shirt she was wearing. i couldn’t stop staring at it once i saw the pics LOL. btw, i am a girl
@dramadrama they both stated that they are interested in each other. they both are getting to know each other stage and that they are good friend as for now. but they didn’t deny the possible of them getting together. kevin also stated that he will ask grace out for movie and shopping dates hehe.
Oh please! Either heavily padded bra or silicon but i would say the former is more likely.
Jayne, are you going to cover about Kevin admit dating grace?? Is it true???
Kay has really lovely breasts. I wish I could touch them.
i read in a prevous artile also on jayne stars titled”Come Home Love” to Conclude with Episode 804 that
Eric will rekindle his relationship with angel
but why is a 3rd person comming in to the picture and why does he have to forget every thing includding his relationship with angel after secretly loving her for so long then finally being able to be with her ..really want to see Eric played by Kenny Wong and angel played Florence Kwok back together again and married angel waited long enough
please come back to TVB for a serie… they lack so much veterans…
David was so handsome, I used to like he hairstyle a lot back in the days… he acting was awesome, too sad he left the industry.
Back then the industry was very dark, people were getting cheated into movie they didn’t want to take part and some actress had to sleep with some boss to be in movies.
117 and she needs to lose weight?
Please help me what a screwed up world we live in. Celebrities and their wisdom.
Was the heading written by a writer with perv tendencies?
No wonder I found it strange to see him in it. The same thing happened to Lawrence Ng, except hardly anyone knows that David participated in such a movie whereas Lawrence Ng had a lot of publicity because the movie was popular. I think it also happened to Kenny Wong Tak Bun as well.
Anyhow, I am sad that some producers trick actors as well as actresses into doing porn, regardless of how much they pay. I think it happens to actresses as well but sadly, they seem to recover from it worse than males who have been in the same situation.
Don’t we all. Le sigh.
Phillip Ng is so cute though! Linda Chung chose well. He’s super good looking. If only he honed an idol’s image rather than a choreographer, no doubt he’d be super popular.
Regardless, they make an incredibly cute couple. I ship them.
What is with the obsession with this girl? I’ve never considered her gorgeous so I have a lot of trouble with understanding people’s worship of her and her body.
I wish they would just go and write their own script from scratch instead of trying to hitch onto the sidecar of the classics. Now they are trying to catch onto the “Election” and the recent “Greed of Man” hype and use their actors for publicity.
I’m not sure that recreating a classic movie will rekindle the magic originated from its predecessor. New movies and series tend to over-complicate a lot of the simple, more tender-hearted moments and scenes that stole our hearts.
@kolo – Thank you for sharing the link! I was not aware that Yammie accepted an interview recently. From the preview, she seems rather uncomfortable. But understandably so, as she has been away from the prying public eye for a long time. I’m excited for this interview!
@tess she looks much better in a recent interview by now tv.here is the link,its only a preview.
“minimize your impact that you have on my family, especially on my sister. I believe this is not good for her upbringing and development to a teenager”
That should be directed to his father. That’s if he cares about his children’s upbringing. But seriously, if you’re the children of such a horny guy, then suck it up. There will be mandy #2, #3, #4 etc. Learn to live with it will ensure you get some inheritance! What a whiner.
@funnlim dating with the intention of getting married doesn’t mean they’re engaged yet…they can still be dating and enjoying that stage. and some people are engaged for a long time, no big deal
@funnlim yeah I agree! I see grace in her too, but it wasn’t until you mentioned yangmi that I saw both of them. What’s seen now cannot be unseen.
A 21 years old mom. I still have trouble wrapping my mind around that.
Was Jay always this sweet? I feel like he got sweeter after Hannah got pregnant LOL
grandfather can buy the whole Frozen world for he grandchildren =P
mandy is such a disgrace for not breaking up things and the father is the source of the problem as well….
@orchid123 Definitely better to watch the Mandarin version, as the Cantonese version is so weird-sounding…I watched half an episode and already couldn’t stand it (got so distracted with the horrible dubbing that I found it difficult to focus on anything else).
By the way…the peak rating was actually 29.49 points — technically not quite 30 points yet (Mingpao reported the actual true rating whereas Oriental Daily and other tabloids rounded the number up…I guess they’re THAT desperate to report 30 points, eh?).
@funnlim Yup, there truly is nothing to watch (though to be honest, it’s been that way for years already)….except in the midnight timeslot, that is.
On a related note….with the success of The Greed of Man’s re-broadcast in that time slot, looks like TVB should place more focus on re-broadcasting classic series — it will definitely help with the ratings issue. I heard that they are planning to re-broadcast 1989’s The Justice of Life after TGOM finishes — absolutely great choice, as that series also tops the list as one of TVB’s greatest series of all time (keep up this classic series re-broadcast thing, TVB — you’re finally doing something right so let’s not ruin it, ok?).
@rika Yeah. Agreed on your point. But in this case, she really have nothing to do on changing chau pak ho life………..
@dramadrama Two wrongs do not make one right. His father is pathetic but she is no angel either.
@kolo I think this is Alvin’s son by his first wife, not his current wife Heidi. I’m not sure if he left his first wife for Heidi.
@funnlim if he have guts he should scold his father too. who is the cheater? and his mother is pathetic,sure for some ppl money can buy everything including your soul.
Wow. Never thought he had a son and teenage daughter. I agree with mandy on this, she is not the one who is changing things in his life. Who is the one who didn’t keep his pants on????
id blame mandy but then i realized the guy is the source of the problem
I think Kathy’s Lady Yang was one of the more interesting characters in this series. In her limited screentime, Kathy did a good job to convey the complicated emotions of her conflicting identities. In truth, I felt more sympathetic to het fate than Empress Wu. She looks great for age and its strange to see her have a grown up son.
@funnlim Totally agree with you. The series is way too bright. It looks a bit fake in everything …………. not natural at all. I don’t like the Cantonese dubbing …………….. lack of emotions. Perhaps it is better to watch the Mandarin version.
@coralie i am touched too
I suppose many fans would like this. I personally prefer to be shown the happy moments(s)(s) that they experience together or both approaching difficulties together which strengthen their relationship rather than been shown concluding happy moments (which is more gesture than anything else). For a series running into so many hundred episodes, this should have been possible and should have happened (not like the 20 or so episode type, where there is insufficient casting time). Hope they don’t just cast both running into each others arms at the last 5 mins or so of the show or a finale of all actors (each achieving the desired status/stage) in the last 5 minutes. That would be as good as not done.
I think if her intention is to date with marriage in view, this has got to be one of the longest engagement ever.
Please if you have balls scold her in person. Unless daddy threatens end of inheritance.
Admittedly she looks great for her age. But anyone with that thick make up and ten spotlights on the face will look good.
That’s embarrassing haha. Celebrities need some privacy too. Things like buying sheer panties shouldn’t be publicized like that.
And I think it’s sweet how Chilam confessed his love for Anita and she was so touched.
if kenny wong loses his memory includding his past and his history with angel ( Florence Kwok) and if a 3rd person comes in between them then how are they going to have a happy ending ?
now I am starting to wonder do i really want to watch what happens to florence kwok and kenny wong at the endding i was actually hopping that they would pick up were they left off and then get married
Instead of forcing yourself to watch just because there’s nothing else, how about reading books or other activities? TV shouldn’t be the only source of entertainment.
Still one of my favorite actors from TVB. Love the character he portrayed in Gem of Life. To me his best performance in TVB.
@funnlim I find it quite lavish that #RebeccaZhu is renting two luxury apartments and also owns a third property. It doesn’t appear as if she is renting the third property out for income either.
His baby is not the only baby in the world who needs constant care and feeding every 2-3 hours. He is not the only father in the world who is sleep deprived, nor his wife.
Every NEW parents go through it.
Perhaps it’s just me, but the quotes from the article simply rubs me the wrong way.
I don’t really like the series. But like what fun said, what else is there to watch???? Limelight years is very entertaining so far. And kudos to Linda for her breakthrough role in it.
I miss him!!! Love his acting. And he is sexy tbh.
she is 22,and aron is 45 but he looks like 30,so physically they are matching lol. and nowadays there are many young/old celebrity couples going well, like roger kwok/cindy au. nicholas tse/ faye wong etc.
@msxie0714 As you said, she is 22 so legally, she is an adult. Even if Aaron is interested in her, let’s hope she has the common sense to reject him given his track record with women.
this is definitely not love on the first sight for her. she can say that she wants to know him better if he is the right one,but if he is chasing you, he will let you know his best sight and comform your wishes. you can just know the real personality of a person when you are actually dating and living together. only then you will know the details and manners you never know as friends.
@spearmintx3 It’s called ‘playing hard to get’
I was going to say the same like you. Thanks
Wait! I thought she HAS accepted him and they ARE dating? We are not talking marriage here, just bf and gf. Don’t play hot and cold, if not he runs away. Anyway I think they’re dating.
Could hardly believe she is already 34.
@jayne Maybe he is just shy.
Not surprised since not much to watch on TVB right now. What else to watch?
Am enjoying so far and is typical palace scheming series and nothing more. Sometimes I feel too much emphasis on the clothes, the men’s clothes however very cumbersome.
By the way the series is too bright like some pointed out. As if 10 spotlights on their faces.
I must however say the voice acting is great (mandarin version).
High ratings eh? That must piss of those anti-mainlander HK’ers.
Aaron Kwok—She’s only 22. keep your hands off her!
Yes, indeed he’s one of those actors that can actually act, not handsome but has charisma. Hope he come back to TVB to act.
I hope she doesn’t make him wait for her so long.. I hope she is also showing that she is interested in him like how he is. Making him wait for so long can make him lose interest, but i believe that if he really likes her he would wait as long as he can.
he indeed one of the handsome TVB actor back in the days, he sure is now as well, I sure hope he returns to TVB I miss he acting and drama.
@kidd Kenneth Ma seems to take very little initiative when it comes to relationships. He may think that this is the prime time of his career and wants to focus on establishing himself more firmly before dating.
@orchid123 He’s not handsome at all. But he is terribly sexy. He oozes with charisma and yes, sex. Funny that he is … never mind but he is to me TVB’s sexiest actor.
Sexiest actor in TVB.Please come back!!
She is pretty but not drop dead gorgeous. Her looks is obviously from her heritage. She looks like a cross between Yang Mi and Grace Chan and a lot of mixed blood in between but I do think she looks as her heritage dictates. There are a lot of pretty girls in China, whether real or not, question is how does she sound and can she act? If she can’t, I don’t care if she is drop dead gorgeous.
She looks very pretty in the above picture (right side picture). You are right, but she looks just regular in other pictures on Google.
No. In general not all Chinese females in China look all pretty – just like every country in the world.
“I’m not extremely handsome” ……………………….. he is pretty honest. I never found Bowie Lam handsome, but he acts well.
Just google her, i mean at some photo she looks actually really pretty! But also looks really ps~
Does all Mainland China people female actually look that pretty in general? Or is it just celebrities LOL.
am i the only one actually thought he was handsome back in the days when he was with TVB? im not trying to say he is not handsome anymore but like to me he was most handsome when he was acting out his character!
Moses Chan seems to be an excellent husband and father. Aimee is super lucky to marry him.
@kidd Indeed. But the article has merits in its questions. If she is living beyond her means, it would certainly imply she is being sponsored by someone.
If the man is single, why not just term it as a relationship?
You want higher viewership? Give us a good story worth rewatching a decade on. Transparent bra is gonna be censored anyway since Empress Of China certainly taught us that lesson.
Still young so can try for at least 2 or 3 more. I believe Moses has matured in terms of finances.
“Around this time, Rebecca’s luck in the entertainment industry also began to change, as she was given more prominent roles. ”
Did the writer forgot about ‘Silver Spoon, Sterling Shackles’ or purposely leave it out because it did not match with his/her article?
@jayne Seem like Kenneth Ma is just NATO (no action talk only). That’s why all the girls moved on.
“Both Christians, Don impressed Rebecca with his theories in life.”
Don did have a lot of life experience to learn from. He faced and overcame a lot of hardships when he was in Mainland China.
This pair really came out of left field. Who would have thought? They has never done any work together and Don just came back from Mainland.
Tracy looks super cute here!
^ “she is also plagued by extreme pessimism and nihilism. Negative thoughts are a frightening thing; it pushes one into the abyss of darkness and loops it endless times till the person’s will to live is completely destroyed. Unless she wants to walk out of it, otherwise she will be stuck in the death loop till she destroys herself.”
Totally AGREE! While one can argue she was biologically pre-dispositioned, the negative experiences factors she encountered is miles more than what any normal person sees in their lifetime as well. But for every one person like that, there is always a far worse case.
Yes her life was very unfair, compared to most people.
BUT how to face it henceforth also remains within herself. This is her own self-reflection button she has to push to avoid the continuous negative spiral downwards.
An unchanging ‘Woe is Me’ victim mentality will not help. Her life has been hard … but to use it as propelling motivation to live it better henceforth can be a positive motivation most victimized people cannot see.
There is no magic one-sz-fits-all solution. It is a combination.
She still has her own mobility, and two legs to walk and do stuff for herself. That, in a way is better than many people in hospitals who are helpless.
NO amount of counselling or medications (with its own negative side effects depending on individual – it totally dulls some people) will magically help, if she stubbornly doesn’t want to move and re-frame her thoughts for her own future moving on forward
Reality is – she may not have anything/anyone to live for. Even people with families may have kids there only because of assets and property or what they can get, NOT because they’re there out of love and filial piety. Not much different from being~feeling alone.
At the end of the day, people live for themselves.
No one/no good friend can bail anyone out as they lie on a hospital bed suffering. In fact some well- meaning visitors can become ‘bright and chatty’ irritants when patients are just trying to quietly cope and battle with their private pain.
They are the golden couple. Love them!
This woman had no shame!
She had suffered a great deal in her life no wonder she is mentally unsound now. Hope she’ll get better and move on with her life, but I doubt she ever will. Sigh…
@hetieshou Realistically, the chances of her finding a man whom is willing to fund her medications and care for her is close to 1%. Not impossible, but highly improbable. I am not sure how profound HK’s public mental health welfare is and whether the state allows a living relative or close friend to institutionalize her against her will. Nevertheless, if friends or family do care, I hope they can find ways to compel her to continue to seek treatment.
She was one of my favorite actresses during my childhood so it is rather dejecting to see her become like this. She may have had a rough life which resulted in her thinking that she has nothing to live for. But we all know that is not true. As long as she wills it, new bonds can be forged again and again. Besides her mental health issue, she is also plagued by extreme pessimism and nihilism. Negative thoughts are a frightening thing; it pushes one into the abyss of darkness and loops it endless times till the person’s will to live is completely destroyed. Unless she wants to walk out of it, otherwise she will be stuck in the death loop till she destroys herself.
While biologically predispositioned, a person also has to have many accumulated factors and environmental triggers/catalysts to bring her to this state.
This poor woman really had a lot of emotional hard knocks in life.
What she perhaps needs is a positive relationship/s to restore some faith and trust. She needs someone who genuinely cares with no motives = that makes a world of difference.
A professional can help with counselling and medication, but even that has limits. Counselling is about putting things into perspective and reframing, facilitating self-knowledge. Ultimately that also lies within herself if she cannot buy-in anyway and push that button from within herself.
No one is going to be with her through life, except herself. Even in the happiest of marriages, one person leaves prematurely, sometimes even 20-30 years ahead.
Some people can be independently strong and operate well solitarily alone, some social types always need people around them, social validation-agreement from others when making decisions. Their world collapses when these fail them.
Even if Yammi belongs to the latter group, she has to be strong, to think independently for herself.No one can hand-hold her for life too, even if they have all good intentions.
She’s vulnerable to manipulation at this mental frame of mind too – which she perhaps sensed when she thought (true or untrue) that some friends had religious agendas for helping her, and reacted accordingly (Mary Han, church, buddhist beads of her parents etc)
The only person accompanying Yammi, is herself. The ultimate buy-in and button to push for change has to come from within, even when she has already ridden too many emotional roller-coasters to be so mentally/emotionally scarred.
On another note, how ironic life can be.
The botox and aging-phobic industry peers her age who love themselves a lot, and take care of themselves; spa and do all they can to ‘artificially alter and control’ what they can to the point of grotesque (Irene Wan Pek Ha comes to mind) ……
And here is Yammi at 49 and disheveled on the street, not in spa-form or clad in all designer duds … yet her natural beauty still comes across as pretty with good bone structure, even as she sits on street corners smoking.
I agree with you that at the stage that she is in she really needs professional help not just a man in her life. However, maybe having a guy to love and care for her is also something she really needs in order to help her get that professional treatment that she needs. Right now with no family or financial back up, how can she get any kind of help? But honestly, in her condition,which guy would be willing to put out so much effort and all to love and care for her? She may be suffering from serious mental problems that may cause her to not only hurt herself but possibly others too. I feel very bad for her but at the same time,who can truly help her now?
I have heard about her sad love life through the years and feel very sad for her. I remember that her first boyfriend committed suicide while she was filming Hier to the throne is… But she was very professional during the filming and did not let it effect the filming progress.
She also had a sad childhood so I feel so bad for her that she seemed to have a sad life throughout. Some may have a sad early life but at least had a happy adult life. Yammie sadly has not had much happiness in her life. She was even kicked by that one Taiwanese actress too. Life can truly be so cruel to some people but so good to others. You really wonder if karma even exists at all?
The only thing she truly needs right now is not a man, but professional help. From her erratic mood swings and self harm tendencies, she seems to be suffering from bipolar and it is only a matter of time before she hurts herself if left untreated.
@kolo Well, with such incompetent management, it’s no wonder that Wong Ching was able to take over so easily and completely ruin ATV. They (the management) only have themselves to thank for getting to this point.
Also, to me, this further proves that ATV doesn’t care about its employees. Being able to pay their employees should be the first and foremost concern, yet time and time again, they (ATV management) are ‘toying’ with their employees’ livelihoods. I honestly don’t understand why the employees even bother to stick around anymore….sure, I get the “loyalty” piece, but come on, loyalty can only take you so far, especially knowing that ATV doesn’t give a crap about their employees.
@llwy12 something is better than nothing,if they had handled matters on this way then they are already saved now, but unfortunately their strategy was everything of nothing,still they think they have room to negotiate?
@sodi Yup…in a way though, it’s kind of sad, especially for people like me who grew up during the HK entertainment industry’s “golden era”. When I see what TVB was capable of producing back in the 70s/80s/90s and how far gone all that is now, I can’t help feeling a bit pained at what we lost. In recent years, I keep hearing people “complain” about us being so overly nostalgic about the “good ole days” of TVB and what is the big deal anyways….well, it’s hard to explain to people who didn’t live through it or experience it first hand. Hopefully, with the re-broadcast of The Greed of Man and all the recent nostalgia that has come out of it, people will start to have a better understanding of why we hold these classics so dear to our hearts!
@funnlim Definitely Beyond the Rainbow, as that’s the series HKTV has scheduled to air after the horror series Karma. I’m actually looking forward to Beyond the Rainbow, as it boasts a fine cast and I can’t wait to watch everyone battle acting chops (plus it’s been awhile since I’ve seen Felix Wong in anything, so definitely looking forward to that).
@elizabeth Yes, The Final Verdict is excellent (another Wai Kar Fai production by the way!) The series is very dark though so may not be suited for everyone — but that is definitely another classic that is well-worth watching. The cast was excellent, the script was excellent, the acting was excellent (Kenneth Tsang was amazing in that series — I remember watching the series for the first time when I was little and he scared the living daylights out of me, especially his crazy “murder spree” scene)….
@funnlim: I agree with you about Looking Back in Anger (which was also produced by Wai Kar Fai) — that’s one of the best series that ever came out of TVB and to this day, it is still such a great classic!
I love Wai Kar Fai’s productions — his series are always so meaningful and thought-provoking…plus he’s one of the few producers who dares to “push the envelope” and challenge convention in a conservative HK television industry. He’s my favorite TVB scriptwriter and producer…definitely miss watching his quality series from the 80s and early 90s (especially given all the crappy series that have come out of TVB the past 15 years or so).
Once again, ATV management are being retards! Ok, fine, 5 million HKD may not be enough to pay all their employees, but with their dire situation, something is better than nothing…I’m sure their employees would rather be partially paid than not paid at all. So stupid…it’s because of these types of bonehead decisions that ATV got into this mess in the first place! I guess Ip Kar Bo would rather ATV close down on 5/29 as rumored than to agree to anything with HKTV (ironically, they didn’t think twice about selling all their classic dramas to TVB, did they?).
ATV deserves absolutely NO sympathy. Good riddance to them — please close down now and put everyone out of their misery so we don’t have to keep hearing about your management’s stupidities for another year!
I believe there was another white knight in talks but I fail to see how extra guaranteed money to help keep you afloat for a while longer is bad business. Buying more time seems like a valid strategy given their current state. They could’ve done a rental monthly contract with HKTV in case the new investor doesn’t agree with the arrangement, but the demand compared to the offer has such a wide gap that I have to wonder if the white knight talk is the reason for this display of confidence in their demand or if the executive level has simply gone full retard.
The employees who were die hard loyal can at least start considering other options knowing nothing is in it for them in the near future. ATV has been rotten for so long that they should consider themselves lucky to still be in business as a non-factor anyway.
@mtt84, no mather deal or not they are already death,its just delay of the execution.its better for the employee now they can find another job much earlier than estimated.
Would think that at this late stage, they could at least think about the employees (to be paid in part if not all)
If the reporters had seen how Damian and Adam interacted behind the scenes in the initial sales presentation for “The Conqueror’s Story” (before Damian had to pull out and Kwong Wah joined with a switch in roles), then they would not make up this ridiculous story and insult both these professional actors.
Although $5 million HKD per month is the minimum they will get, it is still not enough to pay the wages of the employees.
The costs are much more than that. I am not surprised they demanded more money.
@msxie0714 Call me weird but i find some actors to look better with the Manchurian hairstyle than their natural hair. lol Can someone tell me the summary of both dramas? tia
@orchid123 That’s because Ip Ka Po mainly wants the money in his own hip pocket, not to pay his poor employees. I feel for them.
@funnlim In Ding Hai’s mind, he was giving his sons a dignified suicide instead of being mutilated by the mafia. see it as a warped version of Emperor Chongzhen of Ming killing his concubines and daughters so they would be not raped by the Manchurians when the forbidden city fell.
Ding Hai is stuck in his own little world where he’s the hero and everyone is out to get him. Its ironic that he threw three of them off the building, watched his eldest jump down by himself but then he chickened out at the last minute. At last he was brought to reality that he was a hypocritical coward.
With boneheaded decisions like this, how is anyone supposed to feel sorry for ATV shutting down?
@funnlim Go and watch “The Final Verdict”. Its excellent!
@kolo that’s true. Ding Hai believes he is an upright and blameless person in his own little world. But he does know that he has gone overboard say when he punched Damian into a coma, but then he justifies his actions by blaming everyone else. I find him quite fascinating as he’simpulsive and immature but not stupid. In fact, he over analyses and comes up with his weird rationales. I find him irritating because he just won’t get the point but cannot hate him because he really does not have evil intentions.
@funnlim Agree. I think ATV is stupid in not accepting the offer. Something is better than nothing until April 2016. At least their employees will get paid for the wages owed.
I don’t get it. What could be mutually benefiting (one wants a place to broadcast, the other funds to continue) and yet this is like a dead end. Either ATV has no vision or they have a better deal.
What hair? he has to shave for the ugly Manchu hairstyle.
really ATV you’re struggling and still demanding such high fees?!? this is a joke or what… ATV is losing here compared to HKTV they have nothing else to lose as they already did.
This offer would be good for both side but then ATV is being so arrogant and start to act all so mighty we don’t need your money. good luck ATV, can’t wait to see the day you closed down for good.
In the meantime TVB is all laughing and enjoying this whole drama.
Thank goodness he will not renew his contract. I cannot bear to watch his “acting”. A perv, pedophile, arrogant, wooden “actor”.
If people who comes to this forum can only accept positive posts of an actor or actress, then it isn’t much of a forum isn’t? People who comes to this forum should be mature enough to accept criticisms of his or her favorite actress and has every right to defend her. But it’s plain wrong to tell another forummer not to post anything negative. I would not deny you of the right to say all good things about Linda and you should not deny me the right to say all bad things about her. In any case, I really don’t have any good things to say about her acting or singing.
@sodi thanks. It is beyond the rainbow. But didnt see that title in the lineup. So strange.
@kolo Not ott at all. He hated her anyway and she is not his mother. He resented her.
Ding hai’s situation was insane. He threw them off the building. Adult men. Looking back in anger was more elegant.
@funnlim,i dont think is ott. i can understand why adam threw his sons from the building,if you know Ting hai’s character and in what a terrible situation they are in that moment, then you will understand it. yes another classic is looking back in anger,but dont you think that deric wan in the serie who killed his mother not ott?
@elizabeth in Ting hai’s mind he could not be evil because he never seen the wrong things he did.you have to follow Ting hai’s way of doing things otherwise you are wrong,no mather what. he can never see the point of other ppl.
I’m sure he will be very greatly compensated for his awesome head of hair….
@llwy12 yes agree with that, adam’s uniqness is that he can give you a feel of naive childishness in this character with a IQ of that from a 8 year old child.,which alex never can.
@funnlim Perhaps one of the following?
Beyond the Rainbow:
@dramadrama It’s crude and tactless, but Kevin is probably just curious and asking out loud what goes in other’s mind when one claims to be devout Christians. He can’t really ask when the lady is alone or it may seem like harassment or proposition.
@msxie0714 same questions running thru my head…..
@llwy12 thanks for the link. The uniqueness of Adam’s Ding Hai is that even though he is the main antagonist, he is actually not evil. He actually cares a lot for damian and sean and family but he expresses it in a terribly wrong way. In fact, he never sets out to commit evils but ends up doing it anyway.
I see Ding Hai as a slightly schizophrenic with some social dyslexia as he always feels victimised and cannot understand social cues from other people. He is empathatic to the Fong family in comparison to his sons and feels bad for hounding carol on the stand.
I love the depth given to this character. I think Alex would have portrayed him to be a psycho but not as layered as Adam’s.
I remember this series. When I first watched it, I enjoyed it but frankly at that time I didn’t think it too highly. Still don’t. The whole throwing sons off the building is OTT as much as I believe the sisters were thrown off as well?
So long ago. For me the true classic is Looking Back In Anger.
And I hated the ending for Greed of Man for that ambiguity again.
Anyone, everyone, someone!!
Just saw a new Felix Wong series trailer on TV, problem is I didn’t catch the Eng name. Anyone aware of a new Felix Wong series debuting?? The title?
@elizabeth I posted the link to the article below. It’s the “reunion” interview with David, Michael, and Derek where David himself said that Mark Cheng was originally supposed to play his role of Hau Hai and he was supposed to play Bowie Lam’s character Chan Tou Tou, but one day, he was told by either Wai Kai Fai or Tsang Kan Cheung to play Hau Hai instead. That was definitely a great decision, since David is perfect for the role of Hau Hai.
The article also talks a bit about Ng Kai Ming as well.
@melodylai It sounds like Etta Ng all over again. i do feel sorry for the child but BOTH parents are responsible.
i dont believe this, he always behaves as cool as he can and is not a bla-bla guy either,what made him to ask such indecent,creepy questions? i only believe it if he was drunken when he said that.
@elizabeth Yup, I read about that too in scriptwriter Tsang Kan Cheong’s interview. I actually agree with him that Alex would not have been able to make the character as impactful as Adam. Alex is known for being fiery and OTT in his acting and to me, if he played the role, it would’ve just been the same as all his other roles…Adam brought a uniqueness to the role that even Alex wouldn’t be able to achieve.
> Etta Ng Wants to See Her Father, Jackie Chan
WHY?!?? Curiosity? What a slap to her mother’s face.
What is a father anyway?
Etta can see her ‘father’ anytime in magazines and in the tell-it-all articles where JC shamelessly brags about himself and his ‘glorious past’ – like it’s something to be so proud about. He’s everywhere except in her life (or his son’s).
Some kids can be so ‘confused’ aka foolishly stoooopid.
NO matter how ‘bad’ Etta considers her mother is, or screams out to the world that her mother is alcoholic – her mother didn’t abandon her, and brought Etta up as best as she could. From what is said – it seems despite being alcoholic Elaine does have her daughter’s interests at heart … is pretty strict, and wants her to do stuff any mother would probably nag her child about (like h/w and stuff).
It wasn’t an easy life for Elaine either. A more discerning mature and reasonable kid would be able to cut through all her mother’s emotional coping issues (ie alcoholism) at least to realize who it was that stood by her, and raised her up without much support.
Regardless of whose mistake it was. Sure, her mom did wrong in having that tryst with JC, but he’s equally at fault for sleeping around as a married man with a family. And worse, not taking up responsibility for it.
I recall reading how Elaine set up shop buying this that and those household necessities (clothes rack etc) and mother and then-young daughter carrying it all back home, and even her old car was a loan or gift from Chingmy Yau Suk Cheng.
Nor did Elaine choose to abort her, or put Etta up for adoption … (easier ways out of the situation) and choose live life again as a carefree single. Huge difference in responsibility levels.
Etta should just stop being a drama queen and wisen up.
@sodi I really do.think tvb did a fantastic job at covering up and the fact they bothered to match the costume colour. Its the level of attention to details. As for the story frankly this is idol drama. I suppose the roper version should be cctv version.
He must be the ‘must try the goods first before purchasing’ type…….
But it’s really weird to ask in front of the gf too. He wanted to do the deed for the bf is it????!!!
@funnlim Are we talking about 14 in modern terms or 14 in Tang dynasty terms? Because at her current age, she’s actually way ahead of her peers already to the point she can hold official office and quite ambitious rather than what she’s been currently portrayed as. Rough around the edges, yes, but not to the point where I have to question she doesn’t understand the rules of the game. They’ve also taken great liberities to tone down the importance of her family and her own personality / education level which looks to me like they’re setting things up for a lot of misery to come. To be fair though, I’ll give it a bit more time but honestly looks like idealized version incoming to gain sympathy for her later actions to come.
What TVB said was that they did an edit themselves then they were passed the mainland edited version.
Here’s a link: http://www.ihktv.com/wu-ze-tian-shou-shi.html
Near the end: Tsang Sing Ming (曾醒明) pleaded for grievance: “This was set by General Administration of Press and Publication, TVB and overseas had to broadcast the version with additional clothing using special effects as it was perceived more natural. They then gave us the original version with added work and it was not added by TVB itself.”
If you stare enough it looks a bit fake but it’s passable if you don’t focus on that area and compare it to the clothing. The other main difference I remember is a lot of the shots are zoomed in above chest level and more of a focus on the face. It got so ridiculous in China that people started mocking it by doing their own zoom-ins and censorship on social media.
Cleavage issue is probably getting more discussion than the series itself.
@funnlim The series covers the whole life of Wu ZeTian but when it bases 60 EPs on the ten years of her life then squashes the remaining 60 years of her life and achievements into the last 30+ EPs, she does come along as a white lotus Mary sue. I’m not too sure what the film wants us to think about Wu ze Tian in the last ep. The characterization is very weak. Li shi min is one of the better characters.
@elizabeth I get what you mean. If he doesn’t die the story doesn’t move. Since tvb will probably cut the scenes I hope he doesn’t die too soon but wont be draggy.
can amy fix my TV?
@llwy12 I just heard that Alex Man was supposed to be Ding Hai! It all fells so strange with the original casting now. Alex could have done well as well but geesz i wouldn’t want to within ten feet of him when he’s in character!
Guess that’s why he’s still single?! All the girls will run away, too scared !!! 😀
She doesn’t need a father like Jackie Chan.
@llwy12 Where did you hear that Mark was supposed to take David’s role? I want to see too!!!
I dislike Mark’s acting back in those days. He was great as the pscyho killers but I do not find him charismatic enough to take on David’s role. I actually have trouble imagining him pashing Loletta in a romantic way. Glad David got the role!
@funnlim Zhang FengYi is pretty much a top-notch actor in China. He did a lot of Chen Kaige movies back in the 90’s. Though I do enjoy his performance, his Li Shi Min will last for 2/3 of the series which I find the story pace too draggy at first and then too rushed near the end.
Lol trust tvb to resort to heavy flavour again!
What’s the proper pronunciation for Anjaylia and Epaphras?
What kind of names are they?
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313. Synopsis of TVB’s “Wudang Rules”
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315. Synopsis of TVB’s “Wudang Rules”
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379. Yammie Nam’s Rollercoaster Love Life
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391. Mandy Lieu and Alvin Chau’s Son Argue on Social Media
392. Mandy Lieu and Alvin Chau’s Son Argue on Social Media
393. Mandy Lieu and Alvin Chau’s Son Argue on Social Media
394. Mandy Lieu and Alvin Chau’s Son Argue on Social Media
395. Kathy Chow Experiences New Popularity After “The Empress of China”
396. “The Empress of China” Tops Ratings in Hong Kong
397. Anita Yuen Buys Sheer Underwear at Mall
398. Lai Lok Yi, Queenie Chu Reunite in “Come Home Love” Finale
399. Linda Chung, Philip Ng Maintain Underground Relationship
400. Mandy Lieu and Alvin Chau’s Son Argue on Social Media
401. Kathy Chow Experiences New Popularity After “The Empress of China”
402. Anita Yuen Buys Sheer Underwear at Mall
403. Lai Lok Yi, Queenie Chu Reunite in “Come Home Love” Finale
404. “The Empress of China” Tops Ratings in Hong Kong
405. Bowie Lam: A Perfectionist at Heart
406. Rebecca Zhu’s Sudden Wealth Attributed to Powerful Boyfriend
407. Moses Chan: “I Can’t Collapse; My Family Needs Me!”
408. “The Empress of China” Tops Ratings in Hong Kong
409. Bowie Lam: A Perfectionist at Heart
410. Gulnezer Bextiyar Wows with Her Beauty
411. Gulnezer Bextiyar Wows with Her Beauty
412. Natalie Tong Celebrates 34th Birthday at Work
413. Natalie Tong Celebrates 34th Birthday at Work
414. Gulnezer Bextiyar Wows with Her Beauty
415. Natalie Tong Celebrates 34th Birthday at Work
416. Rebecca Zhu Admits Sharing an “Especially Close” Relationship with Don Li
417. “The Empress of China” Tops Ratings in Hong Kong
418. “The Empress of China” Tops Ratings in Hong Kong
419. Gulnezer Bextiyar Wows with Her Beauty
420. Bowie Lam: A Perfectionist at Heart
421. Natalie Tong Celebrates 34th Birthday at Work
422. Bowie Lam: A Perfectionist at Heart
423. Rebecca Zhu Admits Sharing an “Especially Close” Relationship with Don Li
424. Bowie Lam: A Perfectionist at Heart
425. Bowie Lam: A Perfectionist at Heart
426. Gulnezer Bextiyar Wows with Her Beauty
427. Gulnezer Bextiyar Wows with Her Beauty
428. Bowie Lam: A Perfectionist at Heart
429. Gulnezer Bextiyar Wows with Her Beauty
430. Bowie Lam: A Perfectionist at Heart
431. Moses Chan: “I Can’t Collapse; My Family Needs Me!”
432. Rebecca Zhu’s Sudden Wealth Attributed to Powerful Boyfriend
433. Kenneth Ma, Eliza Sam Film “Gluttonous Detective”
434. Moses Chan: “I Can’t Collapse; My Family Needs Me!”
435. Rebecca Zhu’s Sudden Wealth Attributed to Powerful Boyfriend
436. Rebecca Zhu Admits Sharing an “Especially Close” Relationship with Don Li
437. Rebecca Zhu Admits Sharing an “Especially Close” Relationship with Don Li
438. Vincent Wong Films “EU Overtime Mission” in Underwear
439. Yammie Nam’s Rollercoaster Love Life
440. Amy Kwok Once Kicked Sean Lau Out of the House
441. Mandy Lieu Still Pregnant; Will Give Baby Her Surname
442. Yammie Nam’s Rollercoaster Love Life
443. Yammie Nam’s Rollercoaster Love Life
444. Yammie Nam’s Rollercoaster Love Life
445. Yammie Nam’s Rollercoaster Love Life
446. Yammie Nam’s Rollercoaster Love Life
447. Eason Chan’s New Song is a Hit
448. HKTV and ATV Collaboration Proposal Dissipates
449. HKTV and ATV Collaboration Proposal Dissipates
450. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
451. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
452. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
453. HKTV and ATV Collaboration Proposal Dissipates
454. HKTV and ATV Collaboration Proposal Dissipates
455. HKTV and ATV Collaboration Proposal Dissipates
456. HKTV and ATV Collaboration Proposal Dissipates
457. Damian Lau Denies Rivalry with Adam Cheng
458. HKTV and ATV Collaboration Proposal Dissipates
459. Hawick Lau Romances Zheng Shuang in “Chronicle of Life” and “The Cage of Love”
460. HKTV and ATV Collaboration Proposal Dissipates
461. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
462. HKTV and ATV Collaboration Proposal Dissipates
463. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
464. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
465. HKTV and ATV Collaboration Proposal Dissipates
466. HKTV and ATV Collaboration Proposal Dissipates
467. Hawick Lau Romances Zheng Shuang in “Chronicle of Life” and “The Cage of Love”
468. HKTV and ATV Collaboration Proposal Dissipates
469. Kevin Cheng Asks Anjaylia Chan Sex Questions
470. Linda Chung to Sing Theme Song for “The Empress of China”
471. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
472. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
473. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
474. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
475. Hawick Lau Romances Zheng Shuang in “Chronicle of Life” and “The Cage of Love”
476. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
477. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
478. Kevin Cheng Asks Anjaylia Chan Sex Questions
479. Kevin Cheng Asks Anjaylia Chan Sex Questions
480. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
481. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
482. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
483. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
484. Mandy Lieu Still Pregnant; Will Give Baby Her Surname
485. Kevin Cheng Asks Anjaylia Chan Sex Questions
486. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
487. Etta Ng Wants to See Her Father, Jackie Chan
488. Linda Chung to Sing Theme Song for “The Empress of China”
489. Kevin Cheng Asks Anjaylia Chan Sex Questions
490. Linda Chung to Sing Theme Song for “The Empress of China”
491. Linda Chung to Sing Theme Song for “The Empress of China”
492. Linda Chung to Sing Theme Song for “The Empress of China”
493. Amy Kwok Once Kicked Sean Lau Out of the House
494. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
495. Kevin Cheng Asks Anjaylia Chan Sex Questions
496. Etta Ng Wants to See Her Father, Jackie Chan
497. TVB to Film “The Greed of Man” Movie Version
498. Linda Chung to Sing Theme Song for “The Empress of China”
499. Vincent Wong Films “EU Overtime Mission” in Underwear
500. Kevin Cheng Asks Anjaylia Chan Sex Questions