• @annebee in the paper his real name is registered. His real name is Lam Yat Fung, stage name is Lam Fung. Raymond Lam is name on passport also. In HK people recognize English name.
  • @tungamy she is used to be half-time model but a kindergarten teacher now. So I dont think you have seen her on screen since she has not acted other than some small roles during her model time years ago.
  • @littlefish in two or there recent years. Top here means top of all history, not just for one year.
  • @littlefish no, 2 or 3 top box office movie so far
  • @alluka Uhm.... one movie... and it’s not a fan girls kinda movie, so I’m a bit surprised. Idc though about the no.1 spot, im just saying looking at the list, it features pretty average and bad looking men lol
  • @jimmyszeto so the best way is to ignore her/him. Why there is person with a handful of time like that. I wish I have, not just in my vacation :(.
  • @potatochip no, I dont say me make all himself but the connections cant make he win a number of audience for him to soar in his second big role i.e. ASITP. Of course, even if he doesnt want to use, people will still give him something if they have a link to his dad. However, he of today is the result of his passion, hard work, connections (some by himself), luck and ability. Each contribute a part. Cant say which one is more than others.
  • @summer this list based on votes, whoever can get the most votes will win. Wu Jing is now a super star in China with multiple high rated, high income in hand. So no doubt he tops the list of vote.
  • @alluka I agree with you, rich or poor does not necessarily indicate passion. I was responding to Kings in the polar opposite to hopefully illustrate a point. Even though he may not have used his family connections, he has that undeniable privilege and name recognition that makes one look at him favorably. He has the confidence of being secure in position in life, that is an intangible. So, he may not *use* those privileges, but he can't get rid of those privileges, it is just what it is. I am not saying his accomplishments are diminishes because of those privileges, but to have fans argue that he made it completely on his own or it proves his passion is not seeing the complete picture. I also agree that Kings is a troll. I was thinking he/she was just delusional l but you are probably right that they aren't even an LF fan. I was responding out of amusement, boredom, and an itch for drama.
  • @alluka yes, rumors are saying HL is leaving mainland market because of his waning popularity there. i mean there are too many cases of people leaving mainland and coming back to HK due to dwindling career/popularity. i don't see raymond and charmaine as being different. charmaine got lucky, though, because TVB gave her a really good role when she came back and spurred her career forward in china. i haven't seen really great representative work from raymond since the ones i've mentioned. your opinion on his representative work might be different, but his acting hasn't impressed me for a long time now. and likewise, his mainland projects haven't wowed me. they feel like his other TVB series after LW. same old raymond, no difference.
  • @alluka Kings is obviously trolling. Can tell from first comment. The same person as the one who always stirs on this site but this time using Raymond Lam...
  • @coralie just wanna say that Hawick is now aiming Hongkong market and left Chinese market... Btw, I dont think LW can be hí representative work. I'd rather introduce some of his less famous works such as Growing through life or VQH or even Highs and lows. LW, his character is only good for first half, the second half has no logic on personality change. In the end, at least he dares to go out of his safe zone and try new things now. It is what leaving TVB decision given to him.
  • @potatochip why I smell kings is not a fan but go here just to stir the troubles, or to let people start saying LF fans are this and that. I mean, fans will know his position and where he is, at least know he is not up to the well-based movie actor. Those comparisions are ridiculous.
  • @jimmyszeto he gained his first lead when he is in TVB for more than 3 years, excl. the acting class. He acted cameos, did host in TVB8 (a place was used to give to unpromoted people at that time). Then he came to Indo for a show and come back with tanned. It was the producer of A taste of love who granted him the first big role due to his tan. Then the tan helped him again to act in A step into the past. He was praised after ASITP then people found out he is rich kid which leaded him to jobless in 4 months. At that moment, TVB had a bunch of Male artists to leave: Louis, Bobby, Nick, etc. so he had another chance to star in Eternal happiness of which topped the rating in that year. If you notice, Joe Ma was in the group to be promoted to replace the left veterans at that moment too despite the fact he has no acting background. Yang Ming was supposed to be treat in same way as LF but his scandal got him down until recent. So where the connections helped in that all process? Connections can help him to get the praises? Or to drive other male artists away? I rather say he was lucky to join in the moment TVB is running out of male artists. However, if he did bad in ASITP, he would not have today.
  • @alluka In ebiz, several bad dramas is enough to pull a star down, especially as actors/actresses get older, which is true for RL and Charmaine. And the lower the reception of their dramas, the worser offers they'll receive down the line. If this continues, very soon they'll stop receiving good lead opportunities. If they don't care about popularity and willing to accept any role, then they'll survive in the mainland market and will find something to thrive upon eventually, i.e., Gallen Lo, Sammul Chan, Hawick Lau, etc. But in the cases of RL and Charmaine, they're not willing to risk their popularity. These are my conjectures, but I think they hold some credibility. Investors are not just investing in them - they are also investing in the entire cast, the scriptwriters, etc. Of course, I'm not saying the main stars' fan base doesn't matter, because they do. But to say it's solely based on one main star (TVB-aside) is exaggerating the reason. In addition, I've been noticing Raymond's declining acting since Heart of Greed. That's a lot more than 1-2 series. The only ones where he displayed decent acting was LW. Ever since then, he hasn't shown improvement. Just the same chok face and style of acting. Not interesting and not worth my time. So my disdain isn't targeted only to his lackluster mainland career. It's from a long span of observation.
  • @alluka Just because he didn't immediately relied on family does not mean much because he eventually relied on family's reputation to be pushed into young lead actor status so early in his career...
  • @potatochip sorry to jump in again but I disagree with a part in your comment. In my opinion, rich or poor background doesnt give much impact on the acting passion. For poor background artists, they work in industry to support their life while for the rich background, they dont need to support their life. It is true but do you ever consider that for the rich guy, they choose to film days without sleeping, eat frozen food, wearing different to the season, injuries, etc.. It must be passion. They overcome those things because they love to act, not for money. Same to the poor background artists, they may first join industry to make money and then the passion keeps them do it. A part from the passion, the fame is also an issue. Of course, money contribute a part. None can use just air and passion to live. Btw, LF didnt rely on his family for long while. Moreoever at first, if he was that relied on his family, why he chose the acting class to act as cameos until he got soared in his first two series. It was not the connection to get him soar at that moment, right?
  • @alluka I don't know where all the comments went either. Probably an internet glitch. You are right that I should not have addressed the first part of my comment to you. You did not claim that Raymond is equal to Andy Lau or more popular than other established actors. I was trying to consolidate replies to both you and @kings, that was my error. When @kings argued something about smartphones and the internet and Raymond being better than Adam, you also chimed in about the internet. It sounded like you were saying he should get extra popularity points for being successful on the internet, therefore, indirectly agreeing with Raymond being better than Adam. (Which is really a mind boggling comparison between 2 actors). That is my point of disagreement because the number of people who watch HK dramas now are much fewer than when Adam was reigning. Anyways, I have been directly addressing @kings throughout this winding thread. Sorry, to have pulled you into the initial reply.
  • Why some comments does not appear? @potatochip: I dont see where I ever say that LF is more popular than Adam. I disagree with @kings at that because Adam belongs to a different generation that nobody can compete excepts the same generation. I just said that in the internet era, it is easy to get famous but at the same time, there are more competitors. It is like a cake that one piece is eaten, less to the next. How can it turns into a fault statement that I think he is more famous than anyone? It seems weird. And no, I am not excited for his coming back to TVB, I swear. Lol, I want him to stay in movie field forever because in my point of view, movie field is a place where he can try other things, not the same and same all the time role type TVB given to him. Out of all, I also feel kinda disappointed at him to receive LW3 if it is a same Seed Seed once again. Honestly, I never think of LW as a good series to him. I prefer some of his other works even it was not as famous as LW such as Growing through life. I find his roles are deeper developped in those series. I also do not like the famous HOG and its sequel, too. Only kings cannot represent for all, in all end. One person does not mean certain commenters. And since there is only one, you can argue directly to that person instead of saying of all fans. @coralie: After VQH, he only has 2 series aired and you jump to conclusion that his popularity is down to drain that make him to come back to TVB? It is too fast. After that, he has 3 more series on hand and cannot predict anyone. I argue to you that if he is not popular anymore due to flop series, why investors are ever bother to invite him, pay him and get him to act in their works? And why the two channels of Big 4 channels want to purchase his series? Why Youku still want him to star as main lead in their stuffs? Just saying, he is still working fine, not the most popular in the industry but not going down comparing to his time in TVB. Charmaine is the same, she has up and down series but in the end, her market is still good. Anyway, I find that LF, Charmaine, Bosco and perhaps Ron are the last batch that venture the China market. After them, TVB cannot have someone to step out of Hongkong market. It is a bit sad.
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