• @funnlim objectively you're correct. Subjectively, we're dealing with TVB here. They're all about image and advertisers. If their artists do anything scandalous, they get frozen or fired, no further questions asked. But if it's any consolation, they only froze him. Did not fire him. He might come back after many years of neglect, such as Queenie Chu, Amigo Chui and Joel Chan
  • @coralie Yup, he’s done...TVB already confirmed that after he finishes filming his current series, they will “not be arranging any more work for him” (aka he’s going into the freezer...). This is actually one of the few times where I agree with TVB’s actions, lol!
  • @anon yeah, but if there ever was a chance, now they've ruined any chances of it ever happening lol
  • @coralie Men who only want to sleep with you could care less about how you think of them.
  • Dudes are just thirsty. IRL, I've met my fair share of them who don't understand boundaries. That makes me respect them way less than if they had just kept a respectful distance.
  • @hetieshou yup, Mystery of Twin Swords put him on my radar. Although I quite liked One Step Beyond too (that was after MOTS.) I still rewatch Mystery of Twin Swords every once in a blue moon.
  • If true, hope he goes to jail too!
  • Woah this is pretty damning. His career is ova. It's one thing if it's just speculation or maybe consensual s3x, but this is solid proof of his wandering & immoral ways. TVB won't keep him.
  • i hope his 16th nomination isn't going anywhere either lol. But knowing TVB, they might actually give it to him to give him face & because this year's TV king nominees are weak.
  • @tiansankoosing even if they're not his kids, he raised them. i think he should still be concerned over their well-being.
  • @davy yeah...but sometimes, people stuck in these victim roles can't help themselves. they know it's wrong, but they repeat what was done to them in a bid to fix what happened to them...when they should've just avoided the situation altogether. it takes a lot of self-awareness to remove themselves from these unhealthy entanglements.
  • @coralie Yes it is sad that she knows how it's like to grow up without a father, instead of learning from her mother's mistake, she took the very exact path as her mother. It even looked as if she decided to allow her children to grew up the same way as hers...by making the choice of sleeping with a married man, otherwise, does she plan to make the married man divorce? The other wife who is innocent would suffer too either way. Maybe it's one of those cases where a victim just have to repeat things in a cycle. But by no means is JC any better, Elaine and JC both made this terrible mistake together. The kid must've been through lots of bullying because of both the parents.
  • @coralie could be those aren't really his kids, it was reported the affair between ma rong and the manager was going on for a while. So he doesn't give a crap if they're hurt, still wrong since they're innocent in this whole mess.
  • all i can say is, neither parent love their kids. they made this a public fiasco. that kind of attention will follow their kids as they grow up. that can't be healthy.
  • there's definitely a pattern here. people tend to gravitate towards similar people or environment that they grew up with, as that's what they're used to. even if it's abuse. especially if it's abuse. maybe subconsciously, elaine considered JC to be a lot like her dad, who is likely to abandon her. she wants to fix that sore spot in her life, so chose him to try her luck. except these things tend to be cyclical. what she hoped to accomplish didn't happen, and in fact, became a repeat of the tragedy that befell her mother. i wonder if her mother chose a married man as well. let's hope the same fate doesn't apply to etta.
  • @hetieshou @coralie 1) The new dude doesn't look much past a fit 45~50 yrs old ... despite being touted as 65. If his photo in the Infinity pool of Spore's MBS (the upscale Marina Bay Sands) is anything to go by. He was swimming with her 2 boys, while she was not in the water. 2) Being divorced is NOT such a huge deal in East + West openminded Singapore. It is not a very trad-mindset place. (eg My mom's hairdresser got divorced in her 30s with 2 kids, and is leading a great new life travelling 3x a yr with her new husband's family - and has opened her own shop with his help. They now have 2 new children, making a total of 4 kids whom the in laws take care of. She has been happily re-married for the past 10 years. Every yr, it's trips to Japan, Korea,HK etc = entire family, sometimes including inlaws) Whatever it is, all the best to Cecilia. She deserves a break. She's had a few hard knocks and yet soldiered on valiantly as a great mom, kudos. I hope she's finally found that someone who cherishes her; and will take great care of her/her children with thoughtful consideration and respect. 2) I was never a fan of either Nic or Cecilia. But post-scandal and divorce - it's not hard to see who's stepped up and taken great care of the kids - including bringing them along when working. (so much easier to just park them off somewhere ... out of sight, out of mind) 3) Cecilia made a couple of bad choices, and had hard knocks. While Nic's been a disconnected dad - whether in marriage (gaming at home, or away on gigs) ... and remains uninvolved, post-divorce. To me, she gets brownie points for all her efforts and sacrifices, including having had to contend with a rather materialistic MIL (Deborah Li) who was biased in favour of Faye. Nic was all about the show of being 'supportive' post scandal but it was all for overall image - just as he's not a great actor but manages to get by as celeb chef these days. Packaging.
  • @littlefish i see your point, but hollywood doesn't treat their kid actors very well. most of the time, the kids get used and then discarded once they're no longer adorable or needed. never giving them enough transition time to cope with the loss. reality shows are different, because it only displays the kids in their natural element in short durations & they have their parents' to guide them. there's no faking or feeling of 'foreverness' involved. and everyone knows they'll grow up eventually. and as to the wealth of the parents. true, but we all know celebrities also try to keep up with the joneses. they might be wealthy but in their head they're thinking of themselves relative to their peers and planning ahead for their families' needs. so they always think they need more money. and when they want great things for the family, they need the wealth. how often i hear Asian parents say things like, "mom or dad needs to go to work to make money for our baby so they can have the best, etc." is it right? no, but i can understand & empathize that mentality. it's not limited to just Asians though. my coworker's husband (white) grew up in a very affluent family, but he says he's never seen his dad much while growing up. yet, his father is supporting his siblings' needs even when they're all grown up now. i'm not claiming that money is all that matters. but these reality shows allow them to both earn money & spend time with their families. i think that's not a bad thing, provided that the intention is good.
  • @coralie they are rich enough to not doing one or two projects a year to spend more time with their kids. Bringing their kids on tv to spend time with them is a weak argument. Child actor acts, whereas those reality tv celeb kids just be themselves... and when their bratty but cute behaviours gain attention from the mass, why would they grow up and out of these behaviours? If you look at Hollywood, so many child actors grow up being so terrible, and you feel what a waste of their bright young lives they used to have!
  • @coralie Yes and even if she was beautiful and all, she has had a marriage and is divorced with 2 kids, had a sex scandal and stuff, how can she meet a young and rich guy? Very unlikely although not impossible as women with children especially have baggage that the guy may or may not accept.
  • @coralie That department is still around, they just changed the name and put it under the CCP’s Propaganda department instead of being a separate entity as it was before. I believe the rule does apply to child actors as well, at least that’s what I had read. Technically though, it’s not entirely to protect the children, as the other concern (at least what is stated in the documents) is the bad example it sets for society (more specifically, ordinary kids — meaning non-celebrity offspring — may see these kids on TV getting so much fame and money and because they lack the maturity and life experience to understand what’s going on, they may try to emulate them). So yes, part of it involves “protecting” children, but in a sense, it’s also part of China’s “greater” political agenda of wanting its people to be “model, upstanding citizens”.
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