• 519 SQ feet?! Insanity. And I hope she's only renting. 8 mills for a coffin apt isn't worth it
  • @potatochip it would deepen your love because you're hormonal during pregnancy lol. in any case, I intensely dislike when couples throw a marriage together once they discover a baby is on the way. They only did it out of convenience and like jimmyszeto said, to shut others' trap and save their image. If they intended to be together forever regardless of the baby, there's no need to wait. Likewise, if the baby was a happy occurrence, even less need to hold a shotgun wedding. They did it for the baby and to save their image, point blank.
  • @coralie Only the couple knows deep in their heart if they would have married with or without baby. We can't assume that they would not have married or that their love is lesser because they are pregnant. I think saying it is an insult is harsh. If we think about it even more philosophically, what is love? What makes someone love the other? Beauty? Security (financial)? Laughter? Shared values? I think creating life with that person is also perfect reason to love someone. For me, it would definitely deepen my love.
  • @lovepeace123 can I ask where you live? i think your views reflect the environment you live in. can we all just agree that yang mi is 'wrong' for lack of a better word, for not spending more time with her daughter. similarly, hawick is 'wrong' for doing the same. they're both 'wrong' for being neglectful. in that case, since both parents are absent, noemie's better taken care of with her grandparents. the end.
  • @coralie They want to shut mouths. They want preserved image for future financial gains. They want traditional views to not ridicule their behaviour.They want the bride to not feel ashamed....
  • @potatochip but the idea of marriage, the intention at least, is to swear a commitment to each other due to love. not due to the financial benefits, personal gain or to take responsibility. if they do it for any other reason (aside from cultural expectations, i.e., arranged marriages), it's still valid, but taints the meaning behind it. and if the commitment is so strong, regardless of a child, why even wait to be pregnant to sign the paperwork? why wait until a baby is on the way to formalize a lifelong commitment? i agree that marriage is just a piece of paper. if the promise behind it isn't upheld, then it really is just a legal binding contract. so why go through all the fuss with marriage to begin with once a child is on the way? because it's to provide security and assets to the child & the couple, not because of love. or in these celebrity cases, also to bestow a better reputation to the couple. that, to me, is an insult to the meaning behind marriages. still legally sound, but ultimately not very ideal.
  • Americans are also showing the absurdity of HKers, except in this case, for other reasons. Example: North, Stormi, Saint, Blue, Pilot Inspektor, Cricket Pearl, Birdie Leigh, Bear, Kulture, Moroccan, Chicago, Dusty Rose, etc. Full list here: https://www.vogue.com/article/celebrity-baby-names-unusual-apple-blue-ivy-suri-pilot-inspektor. One of my coworkers named his daughter Khaleesi, after GoT. True story. Anyways, people will name their kids whatever they want. For normal people, that's usually not a good thing. But for celebrities, the more absurd the name, the better.
  • @coralie I agree. We should strive for as much equality as possible and less stereotyping but some member here on this site are just all talk and no actions. Before criticising people in articles or member's comments on petty things such as (why can't Kevin play tennis with a daughter?), think of Kevin's preferences of choices. Also go and play some tennis themselves instead of sitting around in the house on the keyboard being a good example of 'the stereotype'...
  • @jimmyszeto but you agree, there is a definite bias here towards women when it comes motherhood. some women are not nurturing people, yet are forced by society (men + women) to be placed in that role. when they move outside the box of what's deemed acceptable, they get intense backlash & criticism. you don't get that shame & blame for fathers. even fathers who neglect their kids their whole lives! people think feminism is some conspiracy to push men below women. it's not. it's about getting women the same rights as men. it benefits men in the long run too. for instance, if the woman is/wants to be the breadwinner, women don't have a right to look down on men for being stay-at-home parent anymore. it opens the door for both men & women to do what they want, since the benefits for both are now more or less equal. of course, society will always resist change. how they're perceived by the public is still more or less the same until the rest of society catches up with modernization.
  • @coralie It's probably the camera angles, hairstyling, and makeup that heighten Jenny Zhang's beauty more. I first saw her in Mainland drama, "Here to Heart", and found her to be very beautiful. Reminds me of a young Chingmy Yau. But in reality shows, everyone is dressed more casually with minimal makeup. They want to make the stars look more approachable doing everyday things. The harsh lighting also makes them look less glamorous. In "Viva La Romance" season 2, you can see how Jenny's husband's eyes still have fire for her when she stepped out in the wedding gown. :)
  • Jenny Zhang looks so different off-screen than onscreen. I thought she was stunning in Yanxi. But here she looks normal lol. Still above average, but normal. I can't believe she's had two kids already! She doesn't look like an acorn ever popped outta her. Some women keep such great care of themselves.
  • @coralie It’s brilliant that the ‘Male’ proposes to the ‘Female’ when time is right and they enjoy an amazing wedding but many of these celebrity’s don’t marry until they are forced to do so with a baby along the way. These younger woman are forced to pretend that they have enjoying the most emotional proposal and greatest wedding when realistically they have rushed everything before the bump clearly shows and it has been chaos. Typically couples usually use at least half a year and sometimes more than a year to plan a wedding. I don’t even know why the media gets praise for uncovering that a celebrity is having a shotgun wedding. It’s not difficult! Call the TVB filming rota department. E.g.Grace has taken a holiday indefinitely in a couple of months time and dropped out of a drama. That’s clearly crying out as a baby along the way which is what happened this time...
  • @coralie sometimes I do wonder if the guys know how to use contraception. women like Athena and Grace and all their crap. they got married BECAUSE a baby was on the way.
  • @coralie I don't believe Linda Chung one bit that she was already registered with Jeremy before she got pregnant. That was a story made up to save her face and myth of virgin till marriage. Just compare how she treated her 2 pregnancies. It seemed she was ashamed of her first pregnancy and went to great lengths to even not appear in photos with her tummy showing eg hiding her tummy behind a big soft toy. And she didn't announce her pregnancy till she was at 6 months along or her baby's birth till days later. Contrast this with her second pregnancy, she was practically flaunting it. She announced it as soon as she could safely announce it and posted many pics, even those showing off her nude pregnant belly. Check out her IG and you can clearly see the different treatment for both pregnancies.
  • @jimmyszeto Exactly! I have way more respect for couples who register/hold wedding for marriage and then have a child down the road OR have a child then register for marriage years down the road. It shows they thoroughly took time to contemplate the state of their relationship, understood whether they fit each other & still decided to take the next step for a family. It shows they have the integrity to decide for themselves, irregardless of others' opinion.
  • @jimmyszeto Yes. it's so tacky the way they go marketing their marriage once a baby derail their plans. They try to mask their mistakes by stating how much they love each other all along, all the while downplaying the importance of the baby that prompted all of this. it's so nauseating. Let's not kid ourselves; everyone knows they're saying all of this to save face. It doesn't prevent people from questioning the authenticity of the marriage. "I find their comments very disrespectful to anyone in any form of a relationship. Are they implying that we don’t take it seriously when we enter relationships? We don’t see our gfs/bfs as lifetime partners because we are hesitant on breeding before marriage...Are the pregnant partners really surprised and emotional after getting proposed to? I think weddings aren’t as natural when couples marry with a baby on it’s way. Wedding’s should be natural, genuine celebratory occasions to display a couple’s lifetime vow to each other, ‘when they are ready for marriage’ without external influences…." Yes, agreed, too. The moment they decided to get married for the sake of the child is the moment when their marriage ceases to be pure. It's now tainted with the benefits & obligations of a marriage for their own reputations & self-gain. No longer meaningful at all. If I was their child, I can't say I'd be proud of the circumstances of my parent's marriage.
  • @coralie Most respectable solution is to give birth. Recover and raise the child for a period then discuss whether to marry with time to plan the wedding of a lifetime. Having a rushed wedding to 'save embarrassment' when everyone who attends the ceremony already knows what is going on, isn't going to salvage anything. The guests won't face to face call the couple out for having a child before marriage but there will be plenty of behind the back gossip anyway. Why not just wait till the child is born and give the mother a proper wedding to remember...
  • @coralie Well many after hindsight of a baby appearing in the womb, decide come out with 'We saw each other as lifetime partners anyway'. Note- Ruco after having to admit to Phoebe pregnant before marriage. Athena Chu after publicly insisting on applying no sex before marriage for years. I find their comments very disrespectful to anyone in any form of a relationship. Are they implying that we don't take it seriously when we enter relationships? We don't see our gfs/bfs as lifetime partners because we are hesitant on breeding before marriage. Then there are all these stories of marriage proposals to pregnant partners. Are the pregnant partners really surprised and emotional after getting proposed to? I think weddings aren't as natural when couples marry with a baby on it's way. Wedding's should be natural, genuine celebratory occasions to display a couple's lifetime vow to each other, 'when they are ready for marriage' without external influences....
  • @nomad822 agree with you on the name thing, though sometimes people just use straight up pinyin for their english names, i.e., morton cheung, kamen, etc. and english names are generally easier to remember IMO. disagree with you on the shotgun marriage thing. i think it cheapens the idea of marriage when people do it purely to prevent others from badmouthing them (which they do anyways, so don't see the point.) and then you see all these celebrities doing the same thing, moses & aimee, grace & kevin, linda & her hubby (though i believe they were actually registered prior to the wedding. i wouldn't hold a wedding in that case until after my baby's born. i would never do something as tacky as shotgun), hawick & yang mi, ruco & phoebe, leon lai & his wife, aaron & moka, feng shao feng & zhang liying, athena & paul wong, and the list continues. they're not doing this because they see each other as lifetime partners before the kid came along. they're doing this because the kid came along. talk about insincere. it's more of a responsibility & a show for others, not true lifetime commitment to be with each other stripped of extraneous causes. why are my comments getting these "awaiting moderation" notification? did i piss off some comment mod @ jayne?
  • @potatochip agreed. i kinda avoid jazz boon now like the plague. when is tvb going to produce another my ages apart? now that was one strong awesome drama.
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