• @coralie I dont think its necessary as bad these days, but I think most couples want both i.e. at least one boy and one girl. My friends family cant break the male grandkiddy curse. They are dying to have a girl baby lol.
  • @coralie The entertainment circle thrives on publicity – as the saying goes, it’s better to have negative publicity than no publicity at all…maybe that’s what this guy is going for. After all, no one knew who he was prior to this and now people are looking him up and digging up his past....and he’s gotten more articles written about him the past couple days than he ever had back when he participated in Mr. HK. Speaking of which, the more I read on him, the more I also think that perhaps he is saying all this stuff and stirring the pot because he is bitter? I read that during his year of the Mr. HK contest, he was actually one of the hot favorites to either win or at least place in the top 3, but he supposedly ruined his own chances after he said all that stuff about the hotel in Taiwan being haunted, as that particular hotel apparently accommodated all of the pageant’s contestants for free as a favor to TVB, so Flow saying what he did damaged the hotel’s reputation and put TVB in a bad spot. He ended up not placing at all in the Mr. HK pageant (supposedly seen as TVB retaliating against him for the hotel thing). Now there are rumors that he might be using Jacqueline’s incident to stir up stuff because he is bitter about what happened to him….true or not who knows... Personally, I could care less about him dissing Andy, but he should really leave Kenneth and Sammi out of it, as the media is already making their lives miserable by not letting this incident go, I’m sure they can do without industry people rubbing more salt into their wounds.
  • @coralie it's the sad truth even in this day and age many still do think boys are better. i think it's okay to have a preference for a certain gender but it's not okay to make it sound like people have to continue if they didn't get the preferred gender. whatever number of children the parents decide to have is their problem. they could have 10 if them love children. it is actually quite inconsiderate for people to tell parents to try again for another gender. some people may not be able to have more children so i'd bite my tongue making such comments.
  • @llwy12 What he says about other artists are not relevant to the OnSum scandal lol. So I'm not particularly bothered. I don't think Natalie deserve the online bashing he's dishing. But I almost see it as not important at this point, because it's clearly his retaliatory efforts based off her comments. Since it's meant to inflame & incense her, there's no need to go over it. With OnSum, he doesn't seem to be doing it with an inflammatory agenda. At least it doesn't look like it to me. What beef could he possibly have with KM to stick up for JW in the middle of the fire? And entangle himself into this mess? I know ppl think it's his ticket to fame, but I think it's too extreme. He could use other tactics instead of putting himself in this antagonistic position.
  • @coralie What do you make of the stuff he’s saying now — all that crap about Natalie Tong and also insinuating that Kenneth and Jacqueline weren’t really dating? I’m not a fan of Natalie’s and never will be, but she doesn’t deserve all the garbage this guy is throwing at her when all she did was make a general statement that they should keep quiet and not make the situation worse. As for the other piece claiming Kenneth and Jacqueline were in a fake relationship, since that involves TVB’s integrity, will be interesting to see if they do anything to refute this...
  • @ricky721 Good riddance to Forensic Heroes IV, though. The sequels just never end. They need to stop airing these TV shows and come up with something original.
  • @megamiaow I'm guessing it happens frequently enough for that to be the main reason for divorce. It can get more specific, like maybe spouses feel more neglected or taken for granted. Those fall under the 'unhappy' category as well. I'm not saying JW isn't moronic or wrong for what she did, but if that's what she really thought, then Andy deserves a lot more blame as well. Flow lacks tact and common sense, but if what he says is true, then we should take what he says to evaluate the situation
  • @coralie Im guessing thats probably the top excuse for married individuals to start affairs, proclaiming their marriage an unhappy one, and that they want a divorce. However, how often does that actually happen? Even if you fall for this lie and are willing to be he third party, it still doesnt make her any less despicable and guilty. Flow whoever his name is saying she is a victim is just bad taste and real injustice to the real victims here who is Sammi and Kenneth.
  • @coralie I agree and I used to like her but now I find her very annoying. I wonder how ChiLam tolerates her? She even checked his phone which is a big no no in any marriage or relationship. If ChiLam did cheat on her one day, I will only say it is karma biting back at her for doing it to someone else.
  • @coralie So I googled Flow Cheung as I was really in the dark about this Flow Cheung? So he said she is chasing after love bla bla bla. All those craps only #morons like him would believe she is a victim! So being a #loosewoman #homewrecker #vixen who has been sleeping around with so many zillions of guys he believed she chased for true love?
  • @potatochip agreed. the vitriol, shame and embarrassment from this situation is enough punishment, I think. it's easy to have no shame when she thinks no one will discover what she did. once she's exposed, it becomes an all out mud-drag and the whole world knows. wherever there are Chinese people, there will be judgment. and she will never escape that. It's better if she comes out now to face the brunt of anger than to stay in hiding, but who knows...maybe this tactic will work until no one cares as much anymore. It's never been tried before. she's not going to have a career in Asian showbiz anymore after this, though
  • @llwy12 agreed that the way he worded the situation lacks tact. but while he's putting blame on the wrong party, if what he says is true (which is where the focus should be), then at least we can say she was stupidly duped by andy in hopes of becoming his wife when he breaks it off with Sammi. and there has to be problems with Kenneth for her to want to cheat. most cheaters don't come from happy relationships (unless they're sex addicts.)
  • She's kind of making contradictory statements. On one hand she says she won't tolerate infidelity and then on the other, the caveat to that is that she doesn't want to be the last to know...like, what? And I specifically remember her saying if he ever cheats, to never let her find out. Like that's implicitly allowing infidelity. How is that "not tolerating" it?
  • @coralie To be honest, given the timing, Flow’s comments are making the situation worse for Jacqueline. I mean, even artists who have been “liking” Jacqueline’s posts on social media have had to suffer the wrath of the public and a few actually had to apologize.....so for Flow to come out and say what he did and make it look like Jacqueline is the victim and everyone is out to get her....and not only that, the part that pissed me off (and apparently many netizens as well) is him implying that Kenneth and Sammi were only protecting themselves with their responses and were therefore being selfish —WTF??? Who the hell is the victim here? Kenneth and Sammi were wronged by their partners but both their statements still tried to protect their respective partners in this whole mess, yet this nobody Mr. HK dude, in his zealousness to “speak out” for Jacqueline, is trying to paint them as the villains? Is it any surprise that the backlash against his comments was so severe and immediate? Not only that, it’s making people even madder at Jacqueline, which is bad for her because netizens are now digging even more into her background and prior activities, hell-bent on exposing her for who she is...
  • Assuming what Flow Cheung says is truthful, Andy pretty much lied to JW to get her to accept being a side fling. I've read enough 3rd party stories to know that's the excuse a lot of men use to get another woman to have an affair. The only thing I would say about her is that she's really stupid. Never believe a man who has not divorced. 90% of the time he's not going to divorce and even if he does, it's unlikely the mistress will become the next new wife. And then on top of that, when you get them by cheating, often that's how you lose them, too.
  • @sasamii thanks. I'm trying to not add oil to this fire. some of the vitriol heaped on jw went overboard imo. I don't want to see a situation where she's driven to suicide because of online bullying. some of the comments aren't even related to what she did, but on her looks or body. like, c'mon people, stop judging on non-related factors. she might not be the prettiest I get it but stick to what she's done, not complete assassination.
  • @coralie Good thoughtful points. I agree. I would also think - her sister Scarlett - is a very successful TV host, and in ET longer than Jacqueline, who's more recent. IF anyone has ever looked at Scarlett's IG - she's very organized about arranging her gigs and appearance events etc ... yet also always making time for her family - her parents, her nephew, her grandma, taking care of her sister when she came over to HK. And she has photos of them all, outside of herself remebering everyone's bdays, events etc . Which is no mean feat, if you dead busy. For Jacqueline ... maybe she's #4 in family, AND so more whatever, less protocol, more spoilt. Her IG pictures seem so much more Me ME ME!. (and I'd rather look at Scarlett's anyday - there's more variety). YES I am being judgemental, based on diff IG. Factors like maybe they were brought up by diff people - even whether grandma, mom etc makes a difference. Maybe one grew up more in Hk, the other here in the West so more ME centered. Whatever. As for comments on her mom being "materialistic" - I'd say no more than some more HKgers where materialism figures very highly. They also seem to have strong mainland roots - only one generation into HK. Also perhaps the "competitiveness" - even within a family. While the family is close - you don't know what lurks behind families or parental expectations. Imo I find Jacqueline kinda boring looking - sure she's sweet but it stops there. Her sister Scarlett gives off more vivacious vibes ... and at 37 - has the attentions of a 26 yr old dude! Huge socialite and tycoon's son - Justin Ma - son of queen of the Tatler and ball scene 薛芷倫 Fanny. Could she in her twisted, self-centred 30 yr old mind be thinking snaring Andy Hui would be a huge feather in her cap?!!!
  • @coralie Good thoughtful points. I agree. I would also think – her sister Scarlett – is a very successful TV host, and in ET longer than Jacqueline, who’s more recent. IF anyone has ever looked at Scarlett’s IG – she’s very organized about arranging her gigs and appearance events etc … yet also always making time for her family – her parents, her nephew, her grandma, taking care of her sister when she came over to HK. And she has photos of them all, outside of herself remebering everyone’s bdays, events etc . Which is no mean feat, if you dead busy. For Jacqueline … maybe she’s #4 in family, AND so more whatever, less protocol, more spoilt. Her IG pictures seem so much more Me ME ME!. (and I’d rather look at Scarlett’s anyday – there’s more variety). YES I am being judgemental, based on diff IG. Factors like maybe they were brought up by diff people – even whether grandma, mom etc makes a difference. Maybe one grew up more in Hk, the other here in the West so more ME centered. Whatever. As for comments on her mom being “materialistic” – I’d say no more than some more HKgers where materialism figures very highly. They also seem to have strong mainland roots – only one generation into HK. Also perhaps the “competitiveness” – even within a family. While the family is close – you don’t know what lurks behind families or parental expectations. Imo I find Jacqueline kinda boring looking – sure she’s sweet but it stops there. Her sister Scarlett gives off more vivacious vibes … and at 37 – has the attentions of a 26 yr old dude! Huge socialite and tycoon’s son – Justin Ma – son of queen of the Tatler and ball scene 薛芷倫 Fanny. Could she in her twisted, self-centred 30 yr old mind be thinking snaring Andy Hui would be a huge feather in her cap?!!!
  • @coralie @rila Love in a marriage does tend to get more and more platonic over time. Romantic fireworks disappear and like Coralie says other priorities take precedence. But in Sammis situation with religion being such a massive influence, who knows how she is valuing her marriage.
  • @rila when it comes to relationships, there's no one-size fits all approach. your convictions are strong and i commend that. i don't condone cheating or extramarital affairs, but things can happen and maybe it's forgivable. people's priorities and needs change as they age, too. maybe love and faithfulness used to be someone's top goal, but over time other priorities take place, like their kids, health, finances or career. and love, too, can transform from burning love to comfortable companionship. i used to argue a lot with older folks on other forums, like those "ask prudence" columns. what i've noticed is that cheating is universally abhored, but the older they are, the less likely they are to advise divorce as the first option. they always suggest counseling first. and myself as well...at this point in my life, i have no tolerance for extramarital affairs. but i can't say how i'll feel about this in a decade or two. as of now, though, i can say that while i don't like cheating, i can understand the reason why someone would accept their spouse back even after cheating.
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