• @coralie yup, lawyer receipts are a much better evidence than a few minutes of recording since it can be doctored to the person who released it. ZS’s career is still doom regardless as what she did was illegal and CCP will make an example out of her just like with FBB. But at least if she’s fighting for the custody, she’s not a total worthless person
  • @coralie I didnt watch the rest because of what happened to Joyce in the series too.
  • This directly contradicts what their surrogate clinic director mentioned, but I'm inclined to believe a lawsuit with receipts than people who toss PR words around when it suits them.
  • @coralie He killed the revealed murderer in self defence who idolised shaun’s character. While trying to destroy the scene, he accidentally killed Mandy’s mother. Joel he accidentally killed too near the end. He never intended to kill any any friend at all...
  • @jimmyszeto alright that was my bad. I didn't watch the entire thing because I anticipated that Shaun was the one murdering his friends one after another until he was arrested. I assume then, that he didn't do this?
  • I couldn't stand the series after what happened to Joyce Tang's character, but altogether I think the serial lacks cohesiveness. I'm actually really happy that the drama is changing genres from drama to comedy, which is what made the first installment so charming in the beginning (who can forget Bobby's and Esther's pairing?!) And despite people's complaints about Moses and his high-pitched English, I love him in comedic roles, even if he reuses similar techniques. I still remember the first time he made me LOL was in The Gentle Crackdown (no English guys! But he owned the role and was great in it.) I have faith he'll do well in this role too And finally! Jessica Hsuen isn't playing some serious boring lady again!! Fresh pairing indeed.
  • @bubbles23 @coralie Shaun wasn’t the murderer but was the more guilt ridden one and the one most fearful of losing what he had built. He was the one who indirectly invited the murderer though. He did not know that till near the end and didn’t kill anyone else till then Guessing the murderer early would have been almost impossible. It was a guy who appeared a few times throughout
  • Did people really had a hard time figuring out who was the actual murderer in this drama? I kinda knew from the first 2-3 episodes in that Shaun Tam was the real killer. I felt the drama was rather cliche in that sense and hit all usual tropes...like the token flawed character who has a heart of gold, the disabled character for the sympathy and breakout card, the suspenseful whodunnit moments but is also clearly suspiciously obvious when you see two possible suspects at the same time but it'd be too easy to prove the "bad" guy, so it must be the "good" guy who did it...
  • Wow, I still had some shred of hope that maybe this is all a big misunderstanding...but looks like ZS really is scum.
  • I think I would appreciate it more if ZS got banned from showbiz because people didn't want to see her rather than having the govt step in. It doesn't seem as legitimate and the gov't has no jurisdiction to judge her actions, either. She didn't commit any crime. Moral failure? Absolutely. But the thousands of antifans will kill her already. The govt should worry about bigger things.
  • This is great news for the infotainment category at TVB! They both come with a vast repertoire of experience and history. Hopefully it'll bring TVB to new heights. Now, all they need is someone better to helm the drama/producer/writer/talent dept to feed new people and material into TVB.
  • @littlefish that's tough...sorry to hear about your mom's mental state. your family must be having a hard time dealing with a close one's cognitive decline.
  • @jimmyszeto A reprieve by abandoning her kids? Idk about that. It sounds like she might be getting a reprieve by letting them go back to China - at least it'll calm down the media. and she won't harbor the reputation of a heartless mother by stranding her kids in another country (even if evidence suggests so.) If the custody battle is true, then how was ZS supposed to fight for her kids when she's not in the US? But she won't give authorization to bring the kids back to China? I agree with @kidd - Did she intend to keep the babies? So many unanswered questions and concerns. If ZS had wanted to keep the children and her conversation with ZH was taken out of context, then it's more forgiveable. If we go by the suggestion that ZH is extorting money, then maybe ZS and her parents said what they said to keep ZH from having any ideas of using the kids for money. I think ZS really needs to step out and address all the controversies if she wants the media to stop hounding her and live a regular life again.
  • @coralie sadly my mom’s mind isn’t there anymore, so arguing or reasons with her will bring nothing. She won’t remember what you said 15mins ago unless it’s something deeply rooted in her mind >_>
  • @littlefish woops i misread what you wrote. i can see why your mom might have that interpretation. just like women or men who donate their sperm/eggs, and have kids but don't want anything to do with them because they didn't give birth to them. but all they need is a dna test to circle it back to the true parent. you can't argue with science.
  • @littlefish lol has your mom watched "I'm sorry, I love you?" or all those asian dramas where the parent goes to their abandoned kids asking for an organ donation? maybe that can change her mind....
  • @coralie while I’m not condoning Zheng Shuang’s dad’s behaviours nor her fan of any sort, I can kinda understand him. It’s the Asian culture, if you don’t carry the baby for 9 mo, and give birth to it, it’s not yours. Trust me, i had this discussion with my mom multiple times. If it’s not your blood, it’s just stranger to them. And yes, this is the old way traditional and possibly racist thinking, but it is what it is. When you are born in raise in that culture for too long, you just can’t get out of that thinking. Compound that with the intention of doing it was rotten at the start, the whole thing will be sour, leading more hatred to the kids even though they are innocent, especially now when all ZH is doing is trying to damage their family when he couldn’t get the money or hoping to get more. Again, family was involved in something like that, too. So I know how messy sh1t can get Also Zhang Heng’s characters seem questionable. He possibly thinks having kids with her will give him more powers and also make it not so clear cut to just break up with him. She’s stupid to fall into his trap. But the way the media pounce on her like that is just sad. Don’t get me wrong, many times I wonder when her time would come when things would crumble for her, but I think the same treatments need to be for Zhang Heng, he’s just a sbag
  • @coralie Yeah, he was. He seemed more bothered by them losing money than the well-being of the two kids. No wonder their daughter is messed up, the parents are too
  • @jetmasters I agree. Surrogacy can go really wrong if you don't pick the right agency and fall prey to unscrupulous traders. I hesitate to say something akin to gov't oversight is needed where reproductive health is concerned, because the government is also a double-edged sword, but at least with gov't regulations, you can't just back out of a deal. And the women who agree to become surrogates will be selected for certain standards. I just read an article the other day about how there's some woman who became a surrogate for a couple, only to find out she had syphilis 3 months in. The couple backed out of the deal and the woman kept the baby but now has issues providing the child with an identity (since it's not really her kid.) And I assume the money towards the deal is all gone too. In cases like that, there is no recourse. But the baby is innocent. The government should step in and make sure those who decide to abandon their children need to pay lifetime support.
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