• Seriously do not understand TVB's standard for actresses these days. To me, she epitomizes the saying "but-her-face". But ok, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I can see there are people in the comments already who finds her beautiful, fine, everyone has their own unique taste. But what I find more troubling is this woman really has no business acting, she's horrible, has been for a long time without any improvement. What I can't get over is how TVB keeps on touting D-grade actresses like her. At least Grace Chan (who is also consistently horrible) had her stupid Miss Hong Kong title, what is this chick holding over the TVB execs that they keep giving her roles and try to raise her profile? She has a nice body, let her be a model. Or maybe just give her hosting gigs since those people could be ugly as sin as long as they could read off a teleprompter correctly. Why do they keep on torturing the audience with horrible actresses like her when there are actually more talented people in their acting pool?
  • @sehseh That's a shame. But thank you for explaining all of it to me! Feels like this is something unique to the Chinese entertainment industry unless other entertainment industries have kept stuff like this under the table better.
  • @dalebaines I've literally never heard of this particular ranking before, I don't think it's that important. The original article this translated one was based on didn't even say it was the "largest" so idk where that came from. Unless they mean largest in terms of number of people (200) on the list.
  • @dalebaines No it's just not targeted at XiaoZhan per se, a lot of Chinese artistes suffered from this too. It's just that XiaoZhan was really really popular since The Untamed and he have gotten a lot of endorsement deals since then. If he kept of getting all the $$$, means less for the other artistes in the same target pool with him. Advertisers/brand usually pick whoever the hottest at the moment. So management agencies are competiting to push their artistes and bring down competitors at the same time, this is their lobbying skills, even if the latter part is unethical.
  • @sehseh I've seen the antis at work but I guess I'm mostly baffled by their existence. Cuz even if there was no Xiao Zhan there will always be another idol so it's like, why waste energy like that? If it's the management teams paying ppl to be antis, why not spend that energy boosting their actors own talent and popularity by finding them good projects that will make them famous? And the attack on XZ seems particularly vicious...he seems like a decent dude overall...so like, why him specifically? All of it seems weirdly unrpoductive and feels like they're being malicious just for the sake of being malicious.
  • @alluka actually shortly after the incident broke, there were fake accts flooding Twitter with really negative posts about Xiao Zhan and even his parents, saying he's dead or they're dead, horrible crap like that. They were obviously fake accts since they had no followers and the anti-XZ tweet would be the only thing they ever tweeted (and some of them obviously were not native English speakers).They were trying to make the hashtag RIPXiaoZhan trend on Twitter. I reported some of them myself cuz they really crossed the line wishing death on him. Yes some of his fans are unreasonable, especially when they attack others, but those horrible anti-XZ ppl do exist as well and their actions should be condemed as well.
  • @dalebaines Resources are limited. With so many artistes fighting over endorsement/deals of ads out there, some will resort to paid articles/postings on social media to take down competitors. It's very obvious when you see accounts bearing the same message/post are being posted at the same time. These are all paid accounts, and many of the comments are bots (replies that didn't make sense lol). Not just negative views, sometimes they incite fanwars by posting comparison polls where the questions are biased toward a certain celebrity, or manipulated comments by bots. It's really, really obvious.
  • @forest2012 I don't understand the whole concept of the paid antis...can you explain? Who pays them? Management team of other actors who aren't as famous? I mean, even if Xiao Zhan's not famous someone else will always take his place...what's the point of paying people to bring down a celebrity like that? And really, why him? Did the same thing happen to Zhu Yilong and Bai Yu when they got popular because of a BL-based drama?
  • @alluka re: the pillow incident: I mean, try to see it from his POV, what is he supposed to do? His fans helped make him. Maybe he also got pressure from his management team to cater to them at the time. Even though he shot to huge popularity last year, he's a relatively new idol, with very little power, surrounded by a shitty management team and nutcase fans, he's pretty much stuck between a rock and a hard place. I do agree though that at this point, he should definitely step out and say something on his own behalf. Not to apologize but just to clear the air, at least let people know where he stands. Or that he's still alive. I have never seen an idol just disappear like this. Is he being held hostage or something? It's so weird. If the scandal is indeed affecting his livelihood, his income in such a negative way, and there's no exaggeration of the impact, then it really is in his best interest to say something now. I mean, what could it hurt anymore if things are still this bad?
  • @ccsoj Yeah, I've seen him #1 in other polls but I don't know which poll is considered more important etc. I wonder though if his slip in rankings also have to do with the fact that he's pretty much disappeared off the face of the earth for the past couple of months...even before the controversy broke out. Pretty much as soon as the lockdown started, he all but disappeared as well. Wang Yibo on the other hand is still doing his variety show.
  • I hope her beauty line does well so she won't ever go back to acting. Bleah.
  • @baoc Thank you for the clarification! I think someone mentioned that XZ's haters are taking advantage of this incident to create more trouble and blow things out of proportion. I think we'll know if any damage was actually done to his career once Oath of Love or his other projects are released. If his shows still do very well and he keeps his place at the top of the ranks, then that'll really be the end of this mess.
  • @zegdapitra I think we actually have the same exact opinion on this; you might have misunderstood what I was saying. I don't think he should apologize for his fans' behavior, that's not his responsibility, but more like a statement of where he stands with the whole situation and maybe how he disapproves of people hurting others on his behalf. There's definitely a difference; it's all in the wording really.
  • @dalebaines the article above is not up to date! it reflects what happened about 2 to 3 weeks ago. the latest news - his 3 dramas will be released shortly, and he still has brand endorsements.
  • @dalebaines I agree with you on the fact that he has to take some kind of action regardless of how small it is if he wants to stop this situation but I disagree with the fact of him apologizing on behalf of those crazy fans, in the first place he had nothing to do with this situation he wasn't involved in the fanfiction work nor in the retaliation of his fans & still wasn't responsible for the government's decision his name was just dragged because it's his fans.. so why should he take responsibility? The only reason I agree he should talk is bcz he has gotten too much damage in the situation & has been the most wronged & should make a move to change the situation before it's too late... But again I think that the management might have told him to keep on the low till it's forgotten which is also a really efficient move in such situation with all the Corona virus crisis going on in the world people are way too concerned about that than some fandom drama so they will mostly forget about it by next couple of weeks & then I guess he might speak up again
  • @littlefish Lol, thank you. Maybe I should go into PR. The statement his studio released was so weak, I hope his PR people aren't being paid a lot cuz they don't deserve it. Yeah, I just saw the ranking today, he's still #1, so I'm even more confused by this article that makes it sound like his career is near over.
  • @msxie0714 while all the things you listed are admirable acts, writing what @dalebaines wrote shouldn’t take longer than 30mins??? Especially if it’s from the heart??? Well said btw @dalebaines. Also I don’t think you need to worry about him. For the past few week, he’s still top 5 trending and influences on weibo (maybe even commercially).
  • @dalebaines after reading blogs from all side in English and Chinese, it was obvious that paid-anti fans infiltrated his more obsessed fanbase with the goal of sabotaging his popularity because he shot to fame like a rocket beyond the level of other actors after Untamed. There were also sub-groups of cyberbullies who entered into the fray with different agendas manipulating public opinion against XZ. During this time when haters demanded a personal apology, he was dealing with the death of his grandfather and involved with his rational fans searching and buying supplies for hospitals in the middle of the corona virus lockdown. With the virus seemingly contained in China, the public has more time sorting out fact from fiction and see him as a victim of cyberbullying Articles from the mainland show that he still has lots of support from brand sponsors and even gained new fans. Some youtube videos also reported he and his mature fans donated and helped promote vegetable products for a village which then sold out. Haters continued stirring up trouble between XZfs and another actor also involved in the promotion by making false accusations that XZ stole the project - quickly disputed by the villagers clarifying both actors were cooperating in the successful promotion. Xiao Zhan's trials and tribulations practically mirrored Wei Wuxian's persecution.
  • @niangniang From what I know of his studio, unfortunately they have never really acted in his best interests. They didn't even want him to get the role of Wei Wuxian in the first place. Have you seen how little protection he gets from the fans that mob him in public? His studio is utter crap. He didn't issue the apology, the studio did. They probably told him to shut up and let them handle it. Who knows. However, given that, after so much time has passed and things haven't settled down, I do think at this point he should stop keeping silent and come out to say something. It IS kind of odd how he's just disappeared, but I'm reluctant to blame him just yet until there's actual evidence he condoned what his fans did. It's like committing career suicide and I'm just hard pressed to believe anyone would do that to themselves over something as trivial as a work of fiction.
  • @dramas4me They made him a female in a work of FICTION, if I were him, why would I care? The story was posted on a FANFIC site with probably the proper disclaimers and tags...no one should be angry about something like that, especially not him. As an actor he would probably one day be called upon to dress up as a female for some reason or another (like in a role for comedic purposes or whatever), what's the big deal? For someone who campaigned to get the role of Wei Wuxian, which is a character in a well-known BL novel, I would be shocked if he's that conservative and uptight. I think you can give him more credit than that. It's already enough that the Chinese government is policing people's creative freedom, I don't think we as fans in a fandom should do more of that. If a fictional story offends someone, no one is forcing them to read it. They can just move on. Easy as that. I would like to think Xiao Zhan is intelligent and open-minded enough to think the same way. It's too bad SOME of his fans weren't intelligent enough to do that (for the record, not all of his fans are crazy, some are actually nice and sane), and that's how this whole mess was created. The blame lies wholly on those particular crazy, policing fans and them alone, no one else.
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