• @funnlim I actually had a hard time finishing The Untamed. I was about a third of the way into it and still felt like the plot wasn't too interesting and Xiao Zhan's acting was very rote. I know he can be a great actor, he gave all the necessary emotions and expressions, but I felt like his acting was too rehearsed, not natural enough. So even he couldn't save the drama for me enough to continue. I might pick it up again when I have more time. On the other hand, Joy Of Life was amazing to me. The plot twists and the underdog momentum and the political intrigue was so juicy. It kept me entertained the whole time. I mean all the good sci-fi, fantasy stuff requires leap of faith, but it's still in a class of its own.
  • @funnlim the only problem with the untamed is wang yibo's acting. He can not even act....
  • @m0m0 if 2020 is no good, go back further. 2019 has the untamed and it's on netflix with fantastic subtitles. Few years back we have Nirvana in fire. Theres story of ming lan which is a tad too long. I know I've been saying the same thing but seriously the untamed is the one to watch. First 2 episodes is confusing so you will need to read the synopsis and check our character chart. After that it is great 50 episodes which for cdrama is considered short. Joy of life is ok, except the start is sketchy and needs leap of faith in the story.
  • @funnlim It is laughable to say Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo or any of the cast of The Untamed is a better actor than Nie Yuan, Qin Lan and Chermaine Sheh. I stopped watching The Untamed the moment I saw the first episode, Xiao Zhan's acting is downright cringey as someone trying to be "happy go lucky but goofy but serious but have a dark past at the same time". The surrounding scene with him trying to be witty hiding the bird and the whole scene of reaction surrounding which I guess supposed to be funny, downright cringey. He couldn't even connect his acting well between one scene to another. Don't let me start on Wang Yibo, that kind of acting you put beside Nie Yuan, God embarassing. In fact the whole cast of The Untamed if put beside the cast of Yanxi Palace I would cover my face. The drama is merely a BL fangirl fantasy come true, and fangirl come in full force. If your essay is putting it against say drama like Legend of Awakening, I won't bother to reply but Story of Yanxi Palace? Dude miles apart.
  • After watching The Untamed, when the last cdrama I watched was the excellent Story of Minglan which retrospect was 20 episodes too long and almost most of Joy of Life (but before Xiao Zhan actually appeared), I have decided I am not gonna watch any rubbish from Yu Zheng anymore that will insult my deep respect, affection, appreciation and awed reverence to Cdramas-xianxia series thanks to the most unexpected best TV series I have ever seen of all time (JTTW doesn't count) and I still feel deeply thankful the casting directors found actors and not stars or people they want to promote because everyone in The Untamed acted amazingly well most shocking was the casts are on average 25 with Wang Yibo being 20 that shocked me the most. So Yu Zheng may release set pictures, costumes, etc which looks pretty but is empty and devoid of any soul because at the end of the day costumes, hair and sets compliment the story and performances, not the other way around. I am also avoiding female centric cdrama ancient series which is the same old thing unless it is something different, something new and definitely not by Yu Zheng. Because Yu Zheng will never have the depth to do a series like The Untamed which the material itself could have sink the series but instead what the director, writer, producer and actor all did was to make something that frankly, I never thought I would ever agree. Also the ONLY 50 episode Cdrama that I am watching for 2nd time ep per ep immediately after the 1st and realise I really did not notice a lot of things and one which I will gladly declare as a masterpiece and classic. So I don't care much who he favours unless they can act like Zanilia Zhao but even I will avoid her series until I see something good.
  • @funnlim woops, my bad, should've put a spoiler tag? ***SPOILER ALERT*** I don't think Moon is going to be completely gone. She's so popular with fans, maybe they'll make an exception and have her come back in a cameo, like they did with hung mao, yao wai and kenneth's parents. but i agree with your point that her storyline dragged. i don't find her love for Kenneth convincing, so dragging her love story made it boring. Kenneth’s relationship with Mandy isn’t much better - it really didn't matter much whether she was there or not, she didn't have much to do. i had hoped that they delved into her background/past life a bit more, like they dropped hints that she has a heavenly aura. But it seems like they’re going to do that in the third part - maybe it’ll unveil some mysteries. I also agree with you that they didn't fully utilize Thalassa's role. But I did like that they made her an ambiguous character. She's not completely evil, has a sense of justice and ironically, maybe just misunderstood. That goes for Billy, too. He's only evil depending on the person who utilizes him. When Kenneth heard her song initially, I thought, ooh I wonder if she's actually an angel, because her singing soothed him and he mentioned before that her music is a heaven's song. I didn't think she was going to be Thalassa, which is a bummer. It was a siren's song instead. I do wonder if she wasn’t Tian Yau’s wife. That would be very romantic. She fell in love with a demon-slayer and decided to be a mortal while he was still alive. There was a hint of that possibility when she walked away from Mandy. And while I think it’s best the show left Kenneth’s past reincarnation open-ended, I felt so bad for Thalassa, because she waited for his return for so long. It would be nice to get confirmation that her wait wasn’t in vain. And I also hope to see her make a cameo in the next part, too. Yeah I would think the Loi Si wouldn't die, because she sold her soul to Mephi. She should technically be immortal until Mephi comes to collect herl. And I wonder whether Lo Si has requested to bring Lor Si back to life or he requested to return her soul to her. If the former, that means these siblings' soul belongs to Mephi now. Hopefully, they’ll change the narrative that there is no heaven/god, because it leaves room for much more potential. Kind of like the show, Charmed. Witches that deal with heaven, demons and life issues.
  • @funnlim I agree with you that we need PART 3 for TEM. And I want more. The universe of spirits and demons and genies is limitless and I want to see more of Siu Ma encountering and exorcising demons. I cried when LoiSee died to protect Ho Jai. I cried harder between Ho Jai-Siu Ma- Ching Ching at the reservoir at the last episode. I love this series because I love the family bonding, even though there are some parts I disliked. I felt the part of BearBear was dragged a little too long (could have been 2 episodes shorter and given those to more of Thalassa as you said). And can we please stop glorifying the perversion of Siu Ma (with Etsuko) and the FungSi Yeh craving for underpants? One scene or two is more than enough to tell us that men are perverted... anything more than that is starting to get distasteful. Oh one more thing, I realized sometimes LoiSee, Ross and ching Ching didn't need to wear the special glasses to see the spirits in many scenes? Did anyone notice that as well? And yes, bring BILLY back. I love his humor! And please give a closure to what happened to LoiSee's soul and Mephi. I felt that was hanging!
  • @coralie SPOILERS!!! Moon is gone. She went to heaven or whereever that is. Thalassa basically dissipated into thin air. She's gone too. Hubert will return but as what? Because ho jai is gone too. Billy must return. He is hilarious! Please tvb, don't screw this. Introduce vampires, zombies, famous gods, famous deities, entire heaven and hell, grim reapers, more exorcists, immortals. The possibility is endless.
  • Definitely part 3 pls. I thought Moon's story was overlong and some issues but in the end, imagine you found the girl for you, you realised too late coz she's dead. So very sad. Thalassa's story could have been better but she is so underused. Love the whole Ho Jai story but I got very annoyed when ep 1 till the last so many things happened because both sons are too scared to tell the mother the truth. As for the twin exorcists, they grew on me. Familial love is second to none. I am doubtful however on Mephi's ability to negotiate. *spoilers* he got the girl's soul when she dies right? why would he then accept the bros' soul in exchange of hers? *end spoilers* Can we have famous faces as demons and deities in series 3? Where are gods? why not let us have gods and more famous deities? Where Hwayugi failed in bringing monkey king to modern world, why can't this series bring that aspect to modern world? i always feel this series can be more than just about Siu Ma. It is such a huge world. Give us some traditional gods! A modern guanyin perhaps. That would be so cool. Anyway the final scenes seem to suggest appearance of black clad spirits? Grim reapers? I hope because for me biggest disappointment of this sequel is it is such a small world of the supernatural, the evil, the powerful. When they all say there's no heaven., no hell, no gods, I feel all so contradictory. I never knew i missed Shek Kam Dong so much and he is the most referenced character but only appearing in imagination a few times. By the way am impressed with Hubert for being able to play 3 characters with distinct personalities. As for part 3, I hope better makeup, better effects, better guest stars, capable actors, balanced story ( enough with silly uncouth siu ma, time he grows up and be cool) and no more Mandy. Her story is so over. She has more role in this sequel than the first series but she practically has nothing to do. She needs to go if not whole story is stale. Best series of the year, even with major flaws. Shows how terrible the other series are. PS love the "gwai jai", So funny. the puns with him is also so funny.
  • @funnlim You are in the minority as if Maggie did not act well, she would not be where she is right now. Connections and all can only get you so far. Fala’s acting has always been average to me. Even after getting educated, I doubt she is much better because acting is a skill that you either have or you do not.
  • @funnlim I see propaganda from the west each and everyday.
  • @funnlim maggie is a good actress. i rewatched the movie with her and leon, her acting was on point. fala on the other hand, barely average acting. if it wasn't for her rich husband setting up with connections, i doubt she could have made it on her own.
  • @m0m0 marvel movies already have a hardcore fan base. Even awful captain marvel did well. So I'm not worried.
  • Great news and hopefully news is true. As for comparison wi thy h Maggie cheung, never thought Maggie was pretty or could act. So for me fala is a step up.
  • @funnlim Wow. No common sense in your criticism. If seeing no immediate future in his business why shouldn’t he just close? Why stick to something you know won’t work anymore and guarantees to lose money? ‘Hotpots‘ require a lot of unhygienic contact of eating utensils during meals so this business is just not viable in the aftermath of a pandemic. Buffets the same too since food can be touched my many customers.
  • @funnlim Um, what? He meant overall throughout the life of the restaurant he didn't lose money, doesn't mean he's not losing money presently. And why shouldn't he close it if he thinks it's not profitable? It's a business, not a charity. Why should he, as a business owner, be expected to suck up all the losses?
  • Not cool! What about the staff? Now out of work. By his confession he is not losing money? Not cool at all.
  • @funnlim I agree. The Banquet was successful in part because they had the entire HK movie industry working together — from directors to scriptwriters to producers to cinematographers to actors, all the biggest names in HK entertainment at the time. They didn’t have a tremendous amount of time to put everything together, but with so many experienced people in all disciplines contributing ideas and working together, it was successful. Currently, the HK entertainment industry is too divided for something like the above to happen...most likely it will be artists affiliated with EEG and One Cool Film only, in which case there’s no point.
  • If it's an ensemble cast comedy movie, it will be nonsense sort of storyline and wont work They need a great script like infernal affairs, a great actor if comedy like Stephen chow or an ensemble of jet li donnie yen stephen chow with great director. Other than that it will be those stupid cny movies. In short script first, then actor. I dont see any hope. They really need a good iconic movie. As for hsds adaptation wont work also because I find the actors old and wrong. In short hsds deserves a tv remake, not a movie remake.
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