• @m0m0 That would be a big scandal if it got out (unless they tell audience beforehand, n then audience will complain why not show the real thing)
  • @ice006 sorry didn't have time to reply sooner. Hey, I feel sorry for the girl too! I saw her new video today but no mention of what had happened. I know she might be scared to come out to report what happened to the police but what's weird is not even one reporter went to the police when they say they got all those pictures and saw it from their own eyes. I'm not saying police is right.. they should do better but now protesters are beating up people when they're not agreeing with them.. I think that is wrong. Do you think that's right?
  • @mangotango Hi! I can’t claim to know the truth...in response to your comment, however: ~protestor was using a slingshot, which isn’t as strong as a catapult ~according to her sister, she was peeking in between the gaps of the bus shelter (looking towards police station) ~since she believes police shot her, she might not trust the police to carry out a fair investigation Actually mooi provided a very good video above! https://youtu.be/F_nzYHOVUe8 Can see the slingshot and the holes in between panels of bus shelter. Cheers ~
  • @mooi Hmm maybe in some of the other videos, beanbag could have been taken by someone (it could anyone, protestors , pro-CCP, someone wanting a photo-op, accidentally kicked aside), we might never find out. I’m ok with using the term of alleged police shooting for this case if you are! I guess I just feel super sad for this girl who had her whole life ahead of her still, and regardless of if it can proven the police shot her, I don’t approve of police brutality and continuing to shoot people with those lead beanbags and tear gas. Protestors are human too :(
  • @ice006 @mooi https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/08/22/eye4hk-campaign-support-hong-kong-protesters-gains-international-momentum/ Who else besides the police have guns that have the force to fire the metal beanbags bullet. Only powerful force can break through these special protective eyewears.
  • @ice006 hihi.. ahh I know what you mean! I'm trying to find the original again but too much videos on YouTube lol I think you would still hear the beanbag sound since the police station is just right behind? Thanks for link! It does look like something was in her goggles.. it is still a bit blurry though. Don't know why the other video I linked doesn't show the beanbag in the googles.
  • @mooi Hey~ So this was the video that was most convincing for me: https://reddit.app.link/WxI3PFOUqZ at 1:09 I tried to find a better source but too many things on Apple Daily lol I saw the 3 screen live shot link you shared. I think the footages were taken live at the time, however when shown to audience, it’s after editing, since the 2 female commentators’ voiceovers seem to have been added after the fact. (They were discussing details of shooting even when it was chaotic/not exactly clear what happened/before it actually happened? ) So based on this I’d say I need more evidence to be sure they didn’t (accidentally or otherwise) mis-synchronize the 3 streams, esp since it seems they used audio from the TST location only and muted the audio from the Wan Chai streams, based on comparison of sound with the 1 site streaming video. I also wonder if beanbag shooting would be audible in that (noisy) environment? Thanks for sharing the links and hope to hear from you soon!
  • @ice006 the link I sent was actually a 3 screen live video. Let me link you to the original https://youtu.be/qJJb7dsOtcE at 00:40 you will see where that noise came from (bottom right). https://youtu.be/IV07LTaNCdY at 01:39 you will see no beanbag on her goggles. Even if it fell out.. it should be close to it right? The reporters will definitely capture it on live if it’s there. That video you link. It does kinda looks like there’s something there but it is kind of blurry. You would think there will be a better video or another angle since there’s so much reporters that day. Yes I’m open for discussion too!
  • @mooi 1) I watched the video you linked, there was a noise at 2:48? The girl’s sister says she was peeking towards police station, between the advertising panels of bus station when she got shot (there are gaps between panels). As this is not a live stream and there has been some cutting and editing, sound or not, isn’t definitive proof. 2) Reporter Richard Scotford notes a white projectile flew by his face (same colour as beanbag), dif colour from the balls that protestors were using. Source for 1,2 above: http://www.thestandard.com.hk/section-news.php?id=210603 3) The projectile smashed through her goggles, that kind of force is more consistent with beanbag fired from shotgun, versus small slingshot used by protestor 4) I understand a picture of goggles on ground isn’t that convincing, however in the video there is a beanbag in the goggles while the injured girl was still wearing them: https://vimeo.com/353636106 at 00:31 Please feel free to respond, I’m not saying it was necessarily police, I’m open to discussion either way :)
  • @ice006 https://youtu.be/F_nzYHOVUe8 it doesn't show what she got hit but at that time she got hit there was no sound of any beanbag shooting. Look at where she is lying down.. the police station is behind her.
  • @mooi Do you have a link to show she was hit with something else?
  • @ice006 have you seen the live tv from the news? There were no beanbag on her goggles at the time she got shot but from the still images there is.. so what does that say? Do you even know where she was standing outside the police station?
  • @mooi Because police have been shooting protestors with those beanbags she was shot with? In criminal law, one need to consider motive (who had the motive to attack protestors?), instrument used to commit crime (who has been seen using that type of weapon?) , and opportunity.
  • She looks young for her age, she probably means the guy should too. As in should have aged well and not look super old. Not necessarily actually way young.
  • @tvbrama She is not supporting HK’s independence, but there is implied support of true democracy and Hk’s bid for it, which CCP is trying to squash as we speak.
  • @jjwong Because there is no democracy in China, it’s more like a dictatorship. Currently you can “vote” in HK, but only choose amongst CCP pre approved candidates, so not a true democracy. Ie there is no actual point in voting, since it won’t make a difference, every candidate is just a mouthpiece for China. Telling people to vote suggests she supports democratic appointment of candidates, not what CCP wants.
  • @dreamer Actually no one is denying HK is part of China, but it’s a SAR (special administrative region), with a distinct identity and different culture (including legal system, use of traditional Chinese characters vs simplified, freedom of press etc). The distinction is important to recognize. Especially in the current environment, where China is trying to assimilate HK, to emphasize that he’s from China, vs recognizing he has HK roots, is a show of support for the Chinese government. There are clear cut sides here and he’s made his choice clear. His choice is seen as especially disappointing since a) he’s from hk originally and b) he formerly recognized his hk identity. Likely he didn’t want to lose the mainland market, so he’s decided to choose $$ over loyalty to his roots.
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