• @jayj hard to prevent that as lots of Americans use VPN for safety reasons. i'm surprised they even caught this.
  • @coralie Agree, it isn't fair. The other issue I see is Apple's lack of response. If using VPN is a factor with gaming the system they should also be looking into it to prevent this from happening in the future.
  • @jayj agreed, but only because intellectual rights doesn't seem to be right terminology here. however, it is gaming the system. from what i understand, U.S. awards certification for sales made in the U.S. and not internationally. that means U.S. artists can only be judged by nationwide sales. in a sense, i think it's protecting local turf creative industry from being usurped by international artists & competition. kris wu is not popular in the U.S., but he got #1 place because his company chose to delay selling his album in China first. so it's cheating because his fans (In Asia) swooped down on the U.S. market to buy, instead of purchasing from China. that dramatically inflated his numbers. what i can say is that though this is a super [email protected] move, it shows the capacity of crazy Chinese fans & their buying power.
  • @llwy12 Well Trump used Russia to gain the system. It's also a bit of a stretch to use the sales of Kris Wu's album as China violating intellectual property rights. Using VPN isn't illegal in USA.
  • @windy I'm using Jenner as an example to show davy how stupid his line of thinking is. Somehow only Asian women are capable of having plastic surgery and looking different while wearing makeup but American women would somehow look natural. This line of thinking comes from the education they receive in the west that "it's not the same in the west as it is in the east", "we're not like that".
  • @davy You don't have to go to a haters forum to see nasty comments of any actress. Twitter, Facebook, Insta, Youtube, Snapchat are all popular social media sites that have nasty comments aimed at the actresses you have mentioned and more. It's also not a "small amount of people", it's a LOT of people criticizing them for their looks, including wrinkles, pores, being old, fake, etc. etc. They aren't excluded from being criticized just because they aren't Asian. That is the most ignorant thing I have heard of. Also, if you are telling me the mass majority of people are commenting in one way I would love to see some numbers or well researched facts and not something you "feel" is the truth. Also, Kylie Jenner is not criticized because she has a cosmetics company, she's criticized because she's a well known celebrity. People aren't talking about her business, they are talking about her looks. They are saying she's fake, ugly and plastic. It's also funny how you mentioned American movies having "older" actresses or whatnot. There are countless "older" actresses complaining about not having enough work BECAUSE of their age. Google is your friend. My main point is, its ignorant of you to complain about C/K actresses looking fake when its exactly the same thing in anywhere around the world. You don't have to take my word for it, go on insta and search MAKEUP. You would see a million pictures of Asian AND Non Asian women wearing makeup and looking different than NOT wearing makeup. It's somehow shocking to men like you that women wearing makeup would make them look different.
  • @jayj Jenner's case would be quite different because of the big obvious reason, moreover she owns a cosmetic company so of course there could be other factors like competitors spreading hate. Also, visiting haters forum, nobody would join those forum unless they're a hater, those pages do not create factual stuff but biased group talks only. In general (the general idea), most of the time, MOST of the time you will see so much more supporters in the West who love natural people. The group of haters could only persist in their own little forum, that doesn't count, but the public's opinion as a whole, most people would not get bothered by wrinkles. Just go pick any American movie at random you will always find the main actors NOT always about being young and in good skin condition, they are allowed to have wrinkles. The commentors would not talk about those wrinkles all day long. BUT, 95% of the time in C-dramas today, nobody is allow to have wrinkles right? Because that will be the only thing people talk about online. Be it women or men, everybody must have the plasticy soft and smooth skin look. Sorry to see you feeling that I'm trying to make a racist remark but that's not my point, wasn't sure how else to you explain without compare and contrast. If you are so against making comparison with American movies, find a C-drama from 2000-2008 and compare that with today's drama. The difference is quite huge actually. C-actors were once very natural looking, but not in today's period. The filtering effect must always be overly done or else people would be considered ugly. What is the reason behind that no director today ever have the guts to use un-filtering their dramas? The sad truth, natural people are being considered ugly now to c-netizens.
  • @jayj I think that in case of Kylie Jenner people mostly comment about her PS. Her before and after pics were so jarring that people who doesn't know will think that it's two different person.
  • @davy you really should read up other forums where these two actresses are torn apart for looking old, wrinkled, outdated and past their primes. You heard of Kylie Jenner? She's what? 21? People from all over the world are tearing apart her looks online. From fb to insta to YT. Her skin is terrible, cake face, heavy on makeup, fake facetune, she's got wrinkles around her eyes when she smiles, etc. etc. Not a single actress in the world is exempt from criticism of looking old, wrinkled, fat or something disgusting. Not a single one. Just like how you kept criticizing Asian women for looking like plastic dolls. It's also interesting to note, in Asia products that targets skin imperfections, wrinkles or acne is much more regulated than say USA. In the USA their products are much higher in strength and aggressive compared to Asian products. Some products aren't legally allowed to be sold in Asia because of the higher strengths.
  • @jayj I will give you two examples, search up Kajol and Angelina Jolie, obviously they put on make up to make themselves lighter. But, just because they put heavy make up on, they didn't put it to the point where they look like plastic doll. They still look like ordinary people who put make up on. The details of their skin lines still show. We can still tell they are humans who just put make up on. If they come out bare face nobody would say they are ugly. If there are wrinkles, nobody complain at all. But for C-actresses, if their skin are not smoother than baby's skin, they get called ugly. 1 single wrinkle will make them the deadliest thing. Not to mention one slight little pore, those don't even show, everything must be extremely smooth like a plastic doll. Not saying other people do not use make up, but when they do, it's definitely not on the same level like Chinese and Korean.
  • @davy maybe you aren't familiar with other races because its not just Chinese or Koreans that are that sensitive to wrinkles, dark skin, pores or whatever imperfection. If you do a simple Internet search you will find all skincare brands from all over the world have products targeting the same imperfections you are talking about. If you think American and Indians don't PS their actresses or facetune their pictures then you probably live under a rock. Even the weather girls have injections and botox in American television. I don't know where you get the idea this is just a Chinese or Korean women thing.
  • lmao. It's like getting grounded by your parents. Honestly some celebrities are just big babies and deserved to be taught a lesson or two. Just because you are rich and famous doesn't give you the right to be a jerk.
  • Didn't they learn anything from Kevin's LAST Ip Man drama? It bombed for a reason.
  • Yeah, I don't care how well the foundation would sit on my face, nobody is slapping me. I'd rather they Photoshop my face than slap me.
  • @jayj It’s complicated. Wilfred was with Denise many years earlier. He’s a loser anyway....
  • @jayj @forgetful Sick and tired of hearing about this money grubbing, pathetic fame seeker on the news all the time. This guy is way overexposed and overrated, he should just look elsewhere to earn a living but not in entertainment industry.
  • Poor translation. ".....purchased a luxury property for his mother, which is worth at least $1 million HKD...." You can't even buy a luxury parking space for 1 Million HKD nowadays........
  • " Denise Ho (何韻詩), Joey’s close friend and Wilfred’s ex....." I thought it was Joey that dated Denise and Wilfred was good friends with Denise.....?
  • @jayj lol I think I can cut the things she listed except for cold drinks. I love cold lemon water. I even eat the lemon when it has lost its sourness xD
  • @jayj hk might start one in Vancouver, however, the real estate crisis we have currently at most western capital/main cities are because of Chinese investors! Who buy house then left it vacant!
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