• @cutie777 Actually, on the contrary, I hope that they are finally getting a divorce. It seems like they've been unhappy in their relationship for so long and I believe that it's more damaging for them to stay in a relationship than for them to separate. It's also very unhealthy for a child to grow up in an environment like that. I believe that they could amicably separate and still love their daughter the same way. Yoyo deserves happiness and I just don't feel like Vincent is fully available to provide her with that :(
  • Finished this drama and felt it was more watchable than Fist Fight but wouldn't consider it high quality. They definitely wasted too much time on the John-Ophelia story arc, which I found not only incredibly annoying but also very boring. I do wish that more screen time was given to the younger group. I felt misled since the first episode opens up with Jackon Lai's Archie narrating the story, yet his screen time became minimal especially towards the end of the series. I was under the impression that he would have a slightly bigger role. I find him very charming and hope that TVB continues to give him some more opportunities. It was also disappointing that he and Kirby didn't really have a chance to develop into a proper romantic pair. In terms of production, I felt that there were a lot of very awkward transitions - mostly during the last 5 episodes or so. The random inserts of Jonathan Wong watching the girl play violin and then he, himself playing violin on a cliff felt very unnatural and didn't flow. The story arc with Oscar and Hariett was also confusing because their relationship development felt very abrupt - unless I missed some scenes in between. I do like King Lam here but seems like they are typecasting him, as his character here feels very similar to Raising The Bar and Threesome. Siu Bo (Sai Sai Lup) put up one of her best performances yet in that last case, which I also thought was the most interesting.
  • I was so excited for Fist Fight but the main plot is so confusing and boring. Such a shame because I really do like most of the main cast. Tiffany Lau is doing good in her first drama so far. Her line delivery still needs some work but the facial expressions are not bad. Philip Ng is fun to watch but he’s really not that great of an actor. I think they just needed to give him less angry lines?? Why is he always yelling?? He reminds me of Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z. But he’s funny during the funny scenes. May Yeung probably has the most interesting character but the drama itself, as I mentioned is so boring that I’m not sure I’ll even get to the meat of his storyline because I can’t sit through it. Vincent is in his most boring role ever in my opinion.
  • Not sure if this years nominations are worse or if last year’s was... I think we had a much better year in terms of female character development. The male character growth is where it’s really lacking this year. Best Drama: It’s a toss up between Life On The Line and The Forgotten Valley for me. I’m more inclined to say LOTL because it was more recent but I do remember chasing TFG with more anticipation when it came out. Best Actor: Honestly, I don’t have any strong feelings about it this year. I feel lukewarm about most of the contenders this year. If I had to choose on acting alone (character aside), Lau Kong takes it. That said, I’m sure Carlos Chan was fabulous but I didn’t get around to finishing Daddy Cool. Best Actress: It’s 100% Ali Lee for me. She has shown so much improvement over the past 5 years and has proven that she has the acting skill to play a variety of different roles. More recently, I’ve discovered that she really does have a certain charismatic quality for humor. I also find her acting very controlled and her voice is comfortable to listen to. She’s definitely one of my top 5 favorite new actresses of TVB. Louisa So from The Forgotten Valley would be my second pick. Most Popular Male TV Character: This list is also hard to choose from - not due to too many qualified options but too few...if I absolutely had to pick from this list, it would be Edwin Siu for Deep In The Realm of Conscious or Matthew Ho for Life on The Line only because I found their characters least annoying from this bunch. Huge improvement with Matthew Ho this year but I do think he needs to work on his voice a bit more. Knowing TVB though, this one will probably go to Ben Yuen or Pakho...maybe Joe Ma because LOTL was so well-received. Most Popular Female TV Character: Gloria Tang for Another Era takes my pick. Even though the drama sucked and I couldn’t finish it, I did enjoy all of Gloria’s scenes! She is also among one of my favorite newer TVB actresses but more on this below...(most improved category) Best Supporting Actor: Arnold Kwok for Life on The Line! I know he won’t win because I think that seniority does play a bit of a role with these awards but Arnold did GREAT as No.6. If we were to compare Matthew and Arnold who were both in Tiger Mom Blues last year, I actually see a bigger improvement with Arnold. Likewise, comparing both of their acting post-Hong Jie death in LOTL, I feel that Arnold’s crying and grief was more natural and touching. His crying scene after discovering the bird’s nest was one of the top scenes for me in the entire drama. Best Supporting Actress: Really sad that Lenna Yeung and Claire Yiu weren’t nominated for this category. They were both fantastic in Who Wants a Baby and 100000000x better than Samantha Ko who did get nominated. Lenna was also great in Life on The Line. From this list, my picks are Mandy Lam, Zoie Tam, Kaman Kong, or Jeannie Chan in no particular order. I thought they all did right to their characters and the script writers. Mandy Lam continues to entertain me in Lo and Behold. Zoie Tam out-acted the hell out of Grace Chan in The Forgotten Valley. Kaman Kong was good in her sad and crying scenes when Wong Ka Lok died. Jeannie Chan had great chemistry with Law Lan and their scenes were extremely touching. Most Improved Male Artist: Hubert Wu as he deserved it last year in my opinion. Hoping he pulls off a great performance in Wife Interrupted so that I’ll feel more justified in my pick. Most Improved Female Artist: I think Gloria Tang is one of the quickest improving artists of all time. I remember thinking she was the most terrible actress I’ve ever watched when she debuted in 2014’s The Ultimate Addiction. Who knew that only 4 years later, she would not only become watchable but even...dare I say...pretty good?? I think she’s pretty and natural on screen now. She also has a silly quality that reminds me a bit of Stephanie Ho, whom I liked a lot prior to her Fred Cheng scandal.
  • Excited for this! Big fan of both Hubert and Moon - they are definitely promising among the younger bunch. Moon can hold her own with veterans as well. Hubert continues to surprise me with both his musical talents and his natural acting. Among the other youngsters, I do find Virginia good aside from her accent. Also wish that Arnold Kwok had one of the lead roles but maybe he looks a tad too mature to play the uni day’s flashbacks now?
  • @kaykay @littlefish @llwy12 ooh! Actually Charmaine attended the reunion dinner for DIF series, but I think she was the only one from DIF4. And I think someone mentioned in this thread about Louis and Charmaine old photoshoot, I chanced upon it on Weibo. Nothing escapes in this day and age. https://m.weibo.cn/6071447762/4268239590991121 I guess it’s my unpopular opinion but I feel Louis and Charmaine have better chemistry than Louis and Jessica.
  • @coralie I suggest you keep watching the baby drama! It's probably been my favorite this year so far. I would have also preferred to win BA last year (but for My Ages Apart). Wish TVB execs would forgo the idea that they need to give these awards out based on seniority. Definitely agree with others that the actresses are outshining the actors this year! But this is good considering all the female roles last year sucked. Wish Louis Cheung could come back :( There are very few actors left in TVB that I want to watch.
  • Ali is doing fantastic in Who Wants a Baby. She's easily my favorite "new" actress. Hope she gets more opportunities for leading roles!
  • @kaykay Uhm, I don’t think he cheated. LSS is possibly one of few, if not the only one, doesn’t try to steal her best friend’s bf. She wanted to voice out her feeling and find out if Sunny remotely like her at their first meeting before he knows charmaine, and feels that if Sunny didn’t meet Charmaine, they definitely have a solid chance of trying out with one another. And Sunny knows her for as long as he know Charmaine, they like best friends, the three of them. So he said what he said because he also likes her enough that if Charmaine didn’t exist, he knows they would try. So that was their mutual understanding, and both of them loves Charmaine. Pretty much, if LSS isn’t into Sunny, I swear she would fight with Sunny for Charmaine lol! The next part where she won’t let him go after his breakup with Charmaine was because she found there is an opening for her, and she’s guilty about it that’s why she took that knife for Charmaine. Basically, when the playing field is level, why not fight for your chance of love, though maybe I need to rewatch to make sure if my memory of the series was correct lawl! The fault of Charmaine’s character for me is that she didn’t let Sunny or LSS explained. Assumption is the worst enemy in any relationship! I love Jessica, her character is always endearing to me. Like her since the first series, the red string one where she’s a fairy. Even though I love the other main girl lol. But Jessica and Sunny is just no no lol
  • @kaykay Exactly! The acting being horrible is one thing, but both characters as written were annoying as well so in a sense it was a double whammy and that upped the frustration level for me (ok, well, triple whammy technically because Sunny was already one of my favorite actors back then so imagine my horror at him being dealt such terrible fate, lol). And no, the “hint” of him possibly getting together with Jessica at the end did not serve as any consolation because I’ve never been a fan of Jessica as an actress for one (not saying she’s not a good actress because she is definitely good, but just not my cup of tea) and two, her character in the series annoyed me as well (for different reasons than Charmaine and LSS).
  • Raymond Lam needs to gain some weight or stop doing things to his face. I miss old Raymond. Used to be such a big fan (Taste of Love, Survivor's Law) and felt like he was a better actor then.
  • @llwy12 @littlefish Chamaine and LSS were painfully bad. Aside from Charmaine's acting being super raw back then, her character was also horrible and annoying. I did like Sunny with LSS better even though I felt like what they did was shady (breaking the girl code, Sunny basically kinda cheated when he first realized his feelings for LSS, etc).
  • @kaykay Not sure, if they are, Joyce Cheng is an average actress at best. I don't even know who Babyjohn Choi is.
  • @llwy12 @kaykay , woah thanks for tip, didn't know tvb encore existed LOL. Many old titles, time to dive back into the golden era. Watched 3 episodes of DIF4, really brings back the nostalgia of good o' tvb days. Its good to know how much thought went into the second couple, usually they would only focus on the main one which would be Louis and Jess.
  • @kaykay LOL…yup….hard not to remember the characters and plot when I’ve re-watched that franchise more times than I care to count! Though truth be told, I watch that specific installment mostly for Sunny and the supporting cast, as I was never a fan of Louis (definitely not during his TVB days) and all the female leads in that series (specifically referring to 4th installment) annoyed the hell out of me….and yes, I kind of still have a bone to pick with TVB for pairing Sunny up with not one but two horrible actresses (at that time at least)….Louis at least got paired with Jessica and even later on, with Anne Heung, who was a way more competent actress back then than both Charmaine and LSS....every time I re-watch DIF 4, I go pull out the TVB Weekly magazine that I have saved from that time period that talks about the multiple alternate endings that they had supposedly filmed for the series – not sure that I like what they ended up using, but seeing that I didn’t really like any of the female leads, I guess it doesn’t make much of a difference….
  • @jimmyszeto LOL just realized you were being sarcastic. but really, i do think WCL probably has some decent ones on his roster For what it's worth, I don't think anyone in the virgin's club is a bad actress aside from christine kuo who i find extremely unwatchable.
  • @polypeptide Yup! It's on icdrama and may be on the TVB Encore app as well. If you remember the characters at all, Law Lok Lam played Charmaine's dad who was involved with some criminal activities including **SPOILER ALERT: murder and faking his death. He killed Kwok Fung's character (who was Louis' missing girlfriend's brother) and there was a huge confrontation scene between Louis and Charmaine. I think episode 23 or something. Just watched it last week.
  • @anon Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Joyce Cheng and Babyjohn Choi were part of WCL's crew?
  • @polypeptide @kaykay Louis and Charmaine definitely had scenes together in DIF4 – and more than 1 scene at that (though no, they probably weren’t friends back then – that I agree with)! TVB has been re-airing the entire DIF franchise (all 4 installments) in the midnight timeslot since earlier this year and for those in the U.S., all 4 installments have been on encoreTVB since way before then (I re-watched it already back in 2017, since TVB USA has had it on their site for at least a year now – with that said though, those who want to re-watch might want to do so asap because most likely they are going to take the series down soon now that the midnight timeslot re-broadcast is winding down). Oh and for those re-watching, media outlet HK01 has been doing some good supplementary (albeit short) articles about the midnight timeslot series, with special focus on artists from those series who are no longer in the industry – for nostalgic folks like myself, it’s been great taking a trip down memory lane and also getting some tidbits on what those (mostly former) artists are doing today. (They did the same for Blood of Good and Evil and The Feud Between Two Brothers as well as Files of Justice franchise when those all aired in midnight timeslot prior to DIF...)
  • @kaykay waittt whut, my memory failed me. By any chance are you rewatching it online?
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