• @m0m0 The Chinese government tried to keep the people conservative, but, in actuality many are not anymore. It's inevitable with the advance of technology and communication and influx of ideas from around the world. But, even in the most conservative country, there will be people with unique ideas and that go against the norm.
  • @kidd homosexuality is shun upon in many cultures not just chinese. people have been practicing it and it's an act of natural not something people made up but yet people can't accept it still.
  • @kidd Agree, I dont see the point if they need to change the leads genders. It would just upset fans of the series and takes away from its essence.
  • @kidd i watched the little bit b/c the leads were cute but the fact that it was a man in a woman's body was hard to swallow. overall, i got to appreciate the novelty of the idea. got to give credit to someone to come up with it in such a conservative country.
  • @m0m0 BL is not exclusively a Chinese culture or Japanese culture. You not accepting BL doesn't make you more or less Chinese. Each culture has many subcultures that have strong following that the mainstream people are not aware of. There are also a lot of slash/femslash literature in American. It also laughable for some Chinese to think that homosexuality are white people thing and homosexuality in China are bad influence from the PC west. Homosexuality exist long time ago in China past history. They even have a term for such relationship.
  • @m0m0 Maybe it's because of the weird plot that it became a cult following. I find the premise more interesting than a girl travel back into time and have romance with all the important (and handsome) men of the past. Plus, the series is actually very funny and entertaining.
  • I don't like this trend. It's not like they don't know the MO of Chinese Broadcasting Board. They will ban a genre when they see too much of it being produce at once. So, space it out. Find some other topic to make. Secondly, what's the point of adapting a BL novel and turn it into BG story. Might as well find a BG novel to adapt from the beginning. These production companies want the ready audience that come with the novel (the book fans) but turn around and slap the fans in the face by making the story BG. "the production team behind 'Peach Blossom Debt' allegedly rewrote male lead character Song Yao into a female character." Please don't do that. The success of 'Untamed' is because adaptation tried to be as faithful to the novel as possible. They turn the two male leads love into brotherhood, but, they didn't turn one into female. Does the production company of 'Peach Blossom Debt' know what went on during the production of 'Untamed'? How the book fans fought back when the production team tried to make one female character into a Mary Sue lead that have romantic line with one of the male lead character (and loved by 2 others)? They sent letters to the production team and when the production team gave them a lackadaisical respond, they sent a 300,000 strong petition to Tencent (the big boss). They mark down series before it was even aired and vowed not to support it. Tencent finally took head and cut out most of Mary Sue scenes and romantic story line between said female character and the main male character, and order reshoots. That's how the final version of 'Untamed' that everyone loves came out.
  • @kidd Yup, you got the timeline right. I can’t believe this article said that Lesley was Fred’s ex-fiancée...they were never engaged and never publicly admitted to dating either (though personally, from what I’ve seen following Lesley and her brother Benji’s careers almost since they debuted, I don’t doubt that Fred and Lesley did date at one point). I actually did like Fred earlier on during the Voice thing, but I don’t like how he handled his relationship with the Chiangs after he became famous (especially after they supported him for so long and treated him like part of their family)...I can completely understand why Paul Gor and Benji were so pissed that they told reporters never to mention Fred’s name in their presence again. And yes, the way Fred handled the revelation of his relationship with Stephanie was horrible (though once again, the “fiancée” whom he supposedly cheated on was NOT Lesley).
  • The history in this article does not tally with past news. I remember between Lesley and Stephanie, there's another woman. The timeline is like this. 1) Fred rumoured with Lesley for ages. No one denied. 2) Fred won 'Voices of Stars'. 3) Fred and Lesley suddenly no more together and they both denied they have ever been together 4) Fred dated a new woman and she later became his fiancee 5) Fred dated Stephanie (not sure it was before or after he broke up with fiancee)
  • @kidd think of those anime characters? Hot sexy body yet act and like things just like a guy (hence tomboy lol). So yea, there’s totally a class of sexy tomboy out there lol (I’m thinking Lara Croft lol)
  • @kidd "true self" is how we were during childhood, before we were influenced by society. As humans, just like any other living organism, we evolve and change is bound to happen. People change everyday based on experiences.
  • If it's a continuation of 'Kung Fu Cult Master', there won't be a Zhang Cuishan to cast. The character, played by Francis Ng', already died in 'Kung Fu Cult Master'
  • @littlefish Is it really possible to be a sexy tomboy? Lol Sounds like 2 mutually exclusive words. Just a little trivia. Her fans used to call her 'Brother San' (珊哥). This shows how tomboy she used to be. I wonder if they ever stop after she became feminine.
  • @jayne "But Kate’s feminine image seemed to be very popular with advertisers, and this was the time she did a lot of event promotions." Maybe that's why she did it for 15 years before finally giving it up. Since it gave good results, maybe she thought this is the right way to go. Maybe she truly thought it's an improvement for herself, but, after 15 years of trying, found out that this really does not work for her. This brings me to the conflict of 'being true to oneself' vs 'improving oneself'. There are many books teaching people to be successful, to emulate the practice of other successful people (e.g. the 10 practices of successful people list, the 7 attitude/mindset of successful people list etc) . Where can you draw line between self improvement and changing yourself to be another person not you? Is there really a true self inside us or just a constantly evolving self?
  • @kidd I think TVB typecast her is another reason why she stops growing/losing interest and lost herself. She is no longer driven as when she first starts. At the beginning of her career, her role was very different, as in, not just a typical goodie 2 shoes. But has lot of grey areas, I think she strikes whenever her role isn’t just black or white. I love seeing her act, and she always so feisty, and can be sexy without even trying so hard. And there was an article about how TVb wanted her to be sexy tomboy, and she basically complain about how she must uphold that image :/ and can only get role like that. I think after knowing it’ll ever be the only thing she acts as, her passion for acting literally went out the window.and I agree Jayne, she always seems to be such a loner. Hope she has a happier life after the limelight :)
  • @kidd Thanks for all of the info and I will miss her too. But I feel that she was losing her freedom and identity and maybe she did not like it. I am glad she is doing what she wants now and is following her own dream. That is good for her as not everyone is able to do so.
  • @kidd "Then, later, she learn to be ‘feminine’ and ‘sexy’ and it all goes downhill." This was probably the image that TVB chose for Kate at the time...which she didn't think was the real her either. But Kate's feminine image seemed to be very popular with advertisers, and this was the time she did a lot of event promotions. I think a lot of former TVB artistes signed with Wong Cho Lam because of their personal friendships with them. He likely understood what they wanted lifestyle wise, but he hasn't been able to secure prominent projects for artistes he managed.
  • Although I'm sad that I won't be able to see her onscreen again, I truly very very happy for her. I'm someone who like learning too. And I wish I'm able to be like her and focus on learning without worrying about making a living and saving for retirement. Kudos to her brave move. Most importantly, she is able to be her true authentic self again. Through the years, I've also noticed her changes and her going farther away from her initial self. People always criticise for being always in make up and high heels even when playing a sick person and drug addict, and focus more on looking good than acting. But, she was not like that when she first started in the industry. She was a tomboy and go all out in her acting even though she might lack the skill and experience to give a really good performance (Watch her first few movies and series and you will notice that). Then, later, she learn to be 'feminine' and 'sexy' and it all goes downhill. I remember in one interview about her first her MV, she said she didn't know she is sexy or can be sexy until the photographer or dance instructor told her. In a behind the scene interview for 'Live of Omission', Bosco mentioned that her car was messy and she dress very casually while Bosco himself was the neat and fashion conscious one. So, again, very happy for her. :)
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