• @llwy12 he already not young. Why not act as much as possible now to earn more cash so that can live comfortably and extravagantly after 60 age? nevertheles, now the entire hk film is still supporting by Andy lau, chow yun fat, louis, aaron, and sean lau. 15 years later all will be old.
  • @kings wait till raymond turns 50ish, and if he's still in demand, then we'll talk. and correct, there is no guideline for judging acting. but i can judge for myself, just like you. and if i think he's coming back to tvb because of his waning popularity and poor acting, there is nothing for you to argue because it's my opinion.
  • @coralie In hong kong, only leslie cheung, andy lau and raymond lam will not be pulled down no matter what happens. Because the most versatile players ever that can sing and act. They already accumulated enough cash flow early in their life. And again its hard to judge acting. Its all just about your perception and personal thought. There is no guideline to judge. You can use award to judge but jackie chan never win any BA in HKFA but does not mean his acting is not any better than nic tse and eric tsang.
  • @potatochip Its you who wanted to say francis and nick are better than raymond. When i have showed out the evidence and then you got nothing constructive to counter and then diverting to something irrelavant. Raymond definitely can get BA if he never give up. If 5 year later he chooses to retire of course he wont get it.
  • @kings Lol, why didn't you compare them at 5 years old so that you can include his Perfect Attendance award? If you wanted to say, Raymond is only 30 years old, here are his accomplishments, I bet in the next 9 years he will have more movies, more lead roles, and more awards than Louis, that would be a logical comparison. Fortunately, I do not need a crystal ball to know how that turned out. BTW, what is up with this "on earth" business? Is there an entertainment industry on Mars? How do you know what is each actor's bank account? Again, being a rich boy is not considered a character building trait.
  • @potatochip You are wrong again. 39 considered old already. Raymond at 30 yo: TVB Most popular Artist awards – 2 Movies – 3 Lead in movies – 2 Asia Pacific Most popular Male singer- 2 Jade solid Gold song award- 3 Number of concerts at hk coliseum-2 Louis at 30 yo: TVB Best Actor award – 1 (first earned at 29 yo) Movies – 27 Lead in movies – lazy count HK Film Best Supporting Actor Noms – 0 HK Film Best Actor Noms – 0 Nick at 30 yo: Movies – 41 Lead in movies – again, too many, not enough time to count HK Film Best Supporting Actor Noms – 0 HK Film Best Actor Noms – 0 Francis Ng at 30 yo: Movies – 67 Lead in movies – I have no energy to count HK Film Best Supporting Actor Noms – 0 HK Film Best Actor Noms – 0 So even if you want to compare with them at age of 39, the money raymond earned from entertainment industry on earth is still more than all of them. And dont forget Raymond did not put much time on movies unlike Andy Lau he got no choice but because of money and experience, the amount of movies he acted in was huge in his early days and boosted his acting skills as well.
  • @kings But then there are capable actors who will never get that opportunity....
  • @jimmyszeto Its okay to use connection in Asia because Asia is different from western. But most importantly if raymond was not competent, giving him whatever lead roles also hopeless. Just like nicholas tse, cannot mean cannot.
  • @kings "Yes because he working for passion and interest. Unlike you working for money. Because when nick, francis and louis were at raymond's age, they did not earn as much as raymond, did not have much fans like raymond, and did not getting as much awards like raymond." I am not sure how Raymond being born with a silver spoon in his mouth with unlimited connections is more admirable than an actor working from scratch to attain success based on just his talents. I would say the poor actor has more passion for acting because they don't have daddy's money to fall back on and should quit to find a life supporting job. They are risking their livelihood for acting as oppose to Raymond with no risk at all. How do you know what Louis is working for? He is now rich but he is still passionately producing projects. Every article on Jaynestar about him is a new project. I can't keep up. You are also wrong about the successes of each of those actors. Raymond at 39 yo: TVB Best Actor award - 0 Movies - 17 Lead in movies - 0 HK Film Best Supporting Actor Noms - 0 HK Film Best Actor Noms - 0 Louis at 39 yo: TVB Best Actor award - 2 (first earned at 29 yo) Movies - 54 Lead in movies - too many, I didn't feel like counting HK Film Best Supporting Actor Noms - 1 HK Film Best Actor Noms - 3 Nick at 39 yo: Movies - 41 Lead in movies - again, too many, not enough time to count HK Film Best Supporting Actor Noms - 1 HK Film Best Actor Noms - 0 Francis Ng at 39 yo: Movies - 67 Lead in movies - I have no energy to count HK Film Best Supporting Actor Noms - 2 HK Film Best Actor Noms - 2 The film industry is about money. If a producer sees that an actor has legions of fans and will sell tickets, they would recruit that person to star in their movies. Raymond is popular, I don't deny that. But to say that a smart business people are choosing "less popular" actors like Louis, Nick or Francis to produce film after film is silly. There is more drama in this post than a TVB series.
  • Why some comments does not appear? @potatochip: I dont see where I ever say that LF is more popular than Adam. I disagree with @kings at that because Adam belongs to a different generation that nobody can compete excepts the same generation. I just said that in the internet era, it is easy to get famous but at the same time, there are more competitors. It is like a cake that one piece is eaten, less to the next. How can it turns into a fault statement that I think he is more famous than anyone? It seems weird. And no, I am not excited for his coming back to TVB, I swear. Lol, I want him to stay in movie field forever because in my point of view, movie field is a place where he can try other things, not the same and same all the time role type TVB given to him. Out of all, I also feel kinda disappointed at him to receive LW3 if it is a same Seed Seed once again. Honestly, I never think of LW as a good series to him. I prefer some of his other works even it was not as famous as LW such as Growing through life. I find his roles are deeper developped in those series. I also do not like the famous HOG and its sequel, too. Only kings cannot represent for all, in all end. One person does not mean certain commenters. And since there is only one, you can argue directly to that person instead of saying of all fans. @coralie: After VQH, he only has 2 series aired and you jump to conclusion that his popularity is down to drain that make him to come back to TVB? It is too fast. After that, he has 3 more series on hand and cannot predict anyone. I argue to you that if he is not popular anymore due to flop series, why investors are ever bother to invite him, pay him and get him to act in their works? And why the two channels of Big 4 channels want to purchase his series? Why Youku still want him to star as main lead in their stuffs? Just saying, he is still working fine, not the most popular in the industry but not going down comparing to his time in TVB. Charmaine is the same, she has up and down series but in the end, her market is still good. Anyway, I find that LF, Charmaine, Bosco and perhaps Ron are the last batch that venture the China market. After them, TVB cannot have someone to step out of Hongkong market. It is a bit sad.
  • @kings Totally agreed. Good luck, good timing, and then act good in your role.
  • @orchid123 thats called luck. He was lucky to have rosy business and can buy luxury properties already after that. Or else still supporting actors. Just like candy lo, she only popular and good with one song hou sam fan sau. Other songs all cannot le....hehe...
  • @potatochip Yes because he working for passion and interest. Unlike you working for money. Because when nick, francis and louis were at raymond's age, they did not earn as much as raymond, did not have much fans like raymond, and did not getting as much awards like raymond.
  • @jimmyszeto wrong. 2012 raymond's popularity already peak and definitely more than wayne. His acting is good but he wont have hundred thousands of fans. Even kenneth ma also shocked at that time wayne can win.
  • @kings ‘Adam Cheng can’t melt a girls heart’. Go ask your mum!!
  • @kings Raymond lost that year because 1. Wayne Lai was much better 2. Wayne Lai was more popular. So that rules of your Raymond great acting and popularity reasoning
  • @kings Sure, he must love working for others. His family has so much money, why even sign up to a company? Money is not an issue. Just tell the producers that he wants to be in their movies. Or better yet, just tell them to make a movie for him. If you don't want to compare him to established actors, stop saying is better than them. How are you measuring success? I need to see this amazing fandom translate into tickets in the movies, awards, production of him as lead in numerous movies, etc. There is always some excuse why he doesn't have the above.
  • @kings Okay. You said rookie. He was the 3rd male lead in Step into the Past and that was considered his breakout role. It is tied so much to him that they are coming out with a movie version, right? He was a rookie then, right? I have no idea what Loft Waters and Survivor Law are. How did I miss such legendary acting? And internet forums, you have failed me for never mentioning such classic series. Still, Greed of Man example makes no sense. Tony, Andy, Adam and Damian are good in movies and also good in TV acting. Movies are dramas, right? But let's pretend that Tony and Andy were terrible TV actors (they weren't), how does that relate to Raymond? Are you saying he is an incredible TV drama actor but isn't so great in movies? So amusing that all of us are so very wrong. @jimmyszeto You are wrong! @coralie Wrong, wrong, wrong!
  • @potatochip Lol, good box office does not mean you will get the award. Louis had to wait 17 years since he left tvb to get his first BA award. I am not a blind loyal fans but i will analyse logically. Raymond is enjoying working for others and less pressure. When you're opening a company, there are many things that you need to handle. Most importantly money is not the issue for Raymond. Louis,nick and francis are much older than raymond and they started in the industry way earlier ,so its not right to compare.
  • @orchid123 Awards does not mean the acting must be perfect. Still have to include luck, popularity and many other factors as well. Just like Louis Koo got to wait until 2018 only can get Best Actor award in HKFA since he left TVB in 2001. But acting like nic tse also can get the award in 2011. And also not necessarily highest box office will land you an award. Jessica hsuan and kenix kwok acting are very good anytime better than Nancy wu, kristal tin,natalie tong and Ali lee. Just that they are woman and they wont wait long enough in tvb to get the awards. For raymond, 2012 was the best time for him to win the BA in tvb but TVB rigged the results. So called 100% citizens voting, and how on earth he will lose to wayne's the eunuch! But anyway during those time wayne, roger and kelvin were still there to fighting for the awards.
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