• @littlefish 1. He's not my idol lol. I am a fan because I enjoy some of his work, but I am not gonna claim him as mine. 2. I never claimed that every action carried out against xz was carried out by antifans. You might want to go back and read what I wrote. I merely stated what I saw when I investigated rather than take people's words and interpretation at face value.
  • She’s not the prettiest, but I always moved by her performance, always very solid. And same with XK, so will definitely check this one out :)
  • @littlefish To be honest, alluka didn't give proof either. It's still he said, she said in this page. Not just because I'm XZ fan, but I also saw the screenshots on Weibo debunking the 227 allegations. I will dig the links if you wish. If the website choose to post XZ news, well his fans are gonna come and defend him. So what if they are new users, are there any rules in terms of choosing username. If how long you have been on this site represents your clout... well well, should I start bragging about myself on Jaynestars? LMAO.
  • @littlefish The reason why I said "i think" was bI don't want to be so arrogant as to say, I read this thing online and I'm sure it's DEFINITELY accurate. Anyone can say anything nowadays. I say "i remember" because those are my version of events from my recollection. I was there when it happened. Unlike ppl who are 100% sure something happened despite not even being there at the time and getting info off a second hand source that was written during the controversy designed to bring more hate to him (fact). I do remember very well that xz was getting harassed both by antis and probably by some of his crazy fans too over the photo. At the time, there was literally no talk of anyone getting fired or xz supporting any fanwars. But as I said, I'm not gonna pretend I knew everything about the incident since I wasn't even directly involved, just a bystander. I saw a post recently that had evidence that the girl wasn't fired, so I don't know why you automatically take it as fact that she was. The only reason I was unsure about the evidence was because I take everything posted by internet users with a grain of salt, whether it's positive or negative. It's a fact that back then, most people I knew thought he was just fed up with being harassed, the only reason I said "i think" is because no one knows what's going on in his mind except him. Personally I believe the evidence that I saw. You can choose what you want to believe though.It's also a fact that 227 have created fake rumours about him. His studio already gave a statement that directly mentioned his fans attacking others and apologised for it. In the past he also told fans to be rational and to live their lives well before following him. That wasn't enough for some people, but instead of criticising him and then moving one, they lead a month long hate campaign, spread rumours he was dead, made homophobic insults and edits of him, said they would've been happy if he died, etc. And anyone who made a single commetn in his favour got mass-attacked. Maybe a month ago I would've thought it would be a good idea to speak up in a more personal way, but now he doesn't owe anything to people who have been creating cyber violence towards him. I'm not sure why you think he should be the one responsible for stopping /other people/ creating misinformation about him but ok. If you think what he's doing if not working, it's better just to speak for yourself. Some people will continue to hate on him, but others have spoken up for him too. Not everyone feels the same way about idol responsibility for fans. It's your freedom not to like him and I'm not asking you to either. but I just needed to clarify my pervious statements since you seemed to find them so unreliable just because I erred on the side of caution and you don't like my username. And tbh, if you dislike him so much, maybe you'd feel better if you stopped following all his articles? Soz for the wall of text lol
  • @msxie0714 what are you on about? My poor girl’s comment was regarding to the thai girl that got fired =_= you need to stop being so defensive about your idol. So far, I’m sorry but you guys (his fans on this site, apart from 1 fan who seems to be quite levelheaded) haven’t gained any positive from me yet. (And yes, I do get the context about your comment after reading @ssz1’s comment, but hey, clumping every negative comment about your idol as antifans really gain fan for your idol!) @ccsoj 1 - alluka has been on Jaynestars for as long as I remember. Unlike you, who couldn’t even come up with a legit username >_> 2 - unlike alluka’s comment, who give enough evidence to believe its validity (the fact that XZ deleted his post regarding her) versus your “I think”, “I don’t remember” (which are all very subjective), of course I will trust his comment more than yours. 3 - if you have read my comments on other articles about XZ, I had said many times the dude need to speak up if he wants these misinformation to stop, yet he hasn’t. Whatever he’s doing, obviously not working. And while I actually do take things with a grain of salt, his not doing anything does not gain any positive opinions from me. So back to my comment, he’s not winning anyone’s heart here.
  • @littlefish Maybe you should stop blindly believing everything an obvious anti says without any proof.... From what I read, the girl wasn't actually fired and it was just something people made up during the ao3 controversy to get xz more hate. I remember when the cat pillow incident actually, I don't remember anything about the employee getting fired, I feel like it would've been a much bigger issue at the time if she had been but it wasn't that well known. But I could be wrong, who knows. I just remember xz got hated on because people were accusing him of favouritism towards cp fans (since he usually doesn't accept fan gifts now but he accepted the pillow). Anyway, he deleted the picture and posted one with a black background and after that everyone stopped fighting. At the time, I interpreted it as that he just wanted people to stop harassing him over it (because he /was/ being harassed) and that was what other people thought too. I don't remember him posting any words with it. No one at the time said he was supporting anyone, because tbh it just sounds illogical, it only got twisted that way after the ao3 incident. In fact, it seemed more like he was upset, since he pretty much stopped being active on social media after that. Idk it was so long ago now and so much stuff has been made up since then. There's so much misinformation being spread around that you should take everything with a grain of salt rather than just instantly believing it and then hating on him. Especially if it's coming from someone who's clearly lying about 227 not sending him abuse, hate comments, death threats and making up death rumours about him.
  • @littlefish you must be one of the antis carbon copying 'RIP..she's a good girl' on twitter
  • @megamiaow I saw a site first did this article then next day goes nvm, he’s still in joy of life 2. Lol
  • @alluka wow, so low of him. Poor girl, he’s definitely not winning anyone’s heart here!
  • @coralie a few of our discussion way back, the way you discussed feel like you were pregnant at time :p
  • @littlefish Thank you! How'd you figure? Lol
  • @coralie congratulation! :) knew you were expecting haha xD stay safe!
  • @oligodendrocytes peer pressure lol. A lot of this bad habits, smoking, drinking are all peer pressured
  • @m0m0 I saw my friend who have 2 boys and one of them is a handful! He would dive into any danger lol, never run out of energy. Good thing about him is he can surf and he’s only 5!
  • @coralie if it’s fail, you need to redo n that cost another set of 30-40k. That’s why IVF is quite exy
  • @baoc well that does make the picture a bit clearer! Possibly also explain why he’s still top trending n there is no hate toward him, and so all these are publicity lol. Moving on lol
  • @msxie0714 while that is very true, however, it’s the commoners (those passerby, for example me, a potential fan since I haven’t watched the untamed yet) are ok (hopefully sound minded ppl) and waiting to listen to his side. But we got none. Just saying
  • @littlefish no matter what he says, haters will find something to nitpick. quoting one filmmaker who agreed with XZ keeping silent, "you can't reason with mad dogs."
  • @littlefish Honestly, you should not stereotype like that. I met some nice Mainlanders, Taiwanese, HKers but I met bad ones from all those places too. I noticed that some Taiwanese and Hkers look down on mainlanders too. It is not true that mainlanders have problems mingling with westernizers. Mainlanders are not primitive like you think. My sister in law is a mainlander and she is nothing like you said. As you said, the few mainlanders you know which doesn’t represent a whole population. I can tell you that a number of Koreans that I met, especially the women are very competitive, look down on you, always think they are better,etc.. But I have met some nice ones too and one of them is a close friend of mine. Basically, do not stereotype as not everyone is the same and your ethnicity should not determine how you are.
  • @littlefish Not for me as the plot line, script, etc.. are more important than the cast. The plot line is like the skeleton of a series that carries you through. I can excuse the cast unless they are beyond bad but luckily I have not seen that many terribly bad ones because if they are that bad then maybe they should not have become actors/actresses in the first place. I must say that is why I never just blindly go for the cast. Many just blindly go for the cast just to complain about how bad the series is afterwards which tells you how much more important the storyline and other aspects to a series is besides the cast.
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