• @anon Yup....nowadays, it’s basically all about name recognition as well as playing off audiences nostalgia and sentimentality. I call it the “Wong Jing formula”: it’s fine to keep recycling the same crap over and over and over and over again — the script doesn’t matter as long as you throw in as many big name artists as possible and also include a nostalgic reference or two....audiences will gobble it up like there’s no tomorrow. It’s beyond sad....it’s pathetic! Love Michael and Dominic but even the 2 of them (plus other veterans) aren’t enough to get me to watch this one (same goes with most of TVB’s / Shaw Brothers series nowadays — majority of them are unwatchable). If I want to see them in a drama, I would rather go pull out an 80s or 90s series to watch....
  • @llwy12 That seems to be the Shaw Brothers/TVB formula. Throw big names into TV production and hope it works itself out and spends little to nothing on scriptwriters. Their investments in films are more or less the same strategy as well. Sad. At this point, I am just watching it for the old veterans like Michael Miu and Lam Kah Wah. I could care less about the rest.
  • @anon I heard they paid big bucks to get him to participate...probably half the production costs right there, lol. The first one already wasn’t good — bored me half to death...second isn’t going to be any better, no matter how many so-called “big names” they throw at it...definite SKIP!
  • @llwy12 LOL, I agree with the Eliza and Linda comparisons.
  • @jayne Wong Wai-sing is a MALE producer last time I checked so not sure why he is being referred to as “she” in every paragraph....to avoid confusion, can you have all the pronouns referring to him in this article changed back to “he” please? Thanks!
  • @hayden Not sure which “both sides” you’re referring to. As far as I can tell, the only “side” banning Ali is Mainland China side. The “pandering to Mainland” thing aside, to me, this is a classic example of TVB management showing their incompetence with the crappy way they run things over there. I find it interesting that Pakho Chau (who may not be signed to them in terms of management contract but did sign with their record label Voice Entertainment) also made a comment on his social media encouraging HK citizens to vote (and he did so even before Ali did) and Mainland also banned him (and he’s still banned as far as I can tell), yet not once did TVB/Voice Entertainment take any action against him (he was still participating in shows as well as getting various acting and singing gigs, including getting cast in new TVB series, etc). In comparisons, Ali got “frozen” by TVB almost immediately after she made her comment and even after she clarified her position, the actions against her got worse rather than better. Why the difference in treatment, TVB, when both artists supposedly committed the same “crime”? For the record, I’m not an Ali fan (I feel she’s overrated – her acting is decent but not impressive, at least not to me). To be honest, with the BB series (which I actually partially watched), the only thing that made it watchable for me was the performance of the veterans – specifically Angelina Lo and Rebecca Chan, who were stellar (and of course barely recognized by TVB as usual)...in comparisons, Ali’s performance was OTT and Lai Lokyi’s performance was boring (their chemistry was ok but nothing to rave about). With that said though, I can see why fans of the series (and of Ali) would be pissed, as switching out Ali for Eliza Sam is insulting, pure and simple -- I mean, at least Ali’s acting is consistently decent, plus she is reigning TV Queen, whereas Eliza can’t act to save her life and is pretty much at the bottom of the totem pole where acting/audience favor is concerned. And I’m sorry, but Eliza is actually way worse than Linda – yes, Linda’s acting sucks but at least her Cantonese is decent and I have no problems understanding her spoken dialogue in series….Eliza on the other hand, her acting more than sucks (it’s pretty much garbage) AND her Cantonese stinks to the point that I could never understand a single word she says in any of the series she’s been a part of – how someone like that could continually be cast as a lead is baffling to me…but then again, this is TVB we’re talking about so go figure!
  • @llwy12 This is unrelated, but do you know what happened with AsianFanatics? Did Athlon pull the plug on the site?
  • @llwy12 I haven't watched the film, Tarantino should just apologise.
  • Tarantino is nothing but a racist loser. By claiming that he “heard” Bruce Lee say stuff like that, Tarantino proves that he is a liar, as he was only like what, 10 years old when Bruce Lee was alive and he never “knew” him or was around him. Bruce’s students such as Dan Inosanto and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar – now, what THEY say is actually true, as they actually KNEW Bruce, learned from him, hung out with him (of course, Bruce’s family too, who knew the “real” him better than anyone). Also, Tarantino was plain lazy with his response, trying to attribute a quote to Linda Lee when she wasn’t even the one who said it – do some damn research before you open your mouth, Quentin!! Btw, Kareem actually wrote a really nice piece in THR about the controversy, which I think sums up the sentiments of Bruce’s fans perfectly: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kareem-abdul-jabbar-bruce-lee-was-my-friend-tarantinos-movie-disrespects-him-1232544
  • @llwy12 Let's not forget even China's own favorite company, Huawei committed the same mistake. They are now under fire because their phones categorized Taiwan as a country. The Chinese nationalists are getting ridiculous. Even though I work for a US MNC, I try to be careful when speaking about our HK and Taiwan financials. As much as possible, I call them "markets", and not "countries". Never know whom among my coworkers could be a CCP fanboy.
  • @llwy12 wow, your knowledge! Thanks for all the explanations :) and [email protected] “undermining china’s sovereignty”! XD
  • @littlefish Exactly, lol. Actually, if we want to really get nit-picky, the Coach shirt technically does have an “error” on it as it pertains to the U.S. – it listed Orange County, USA….Orange County isn’t a city – it’s a county in California comprised of 34 different cities, with each city unique in its own right (and geographically it’s not right either, since people who live in the OC area don’t actually put that in their addresses)….so if we reverse apply China’s logic, whichever OC city that Coach was referring to technically doesn’t exist as a city themselves (oh, the outrage!!!)….so maybe they should go boycott Coach then and demand to be added to the shirt in order to validate their existence as a city?
  • @khuekhueloves I get it…yes, it was a mistake and sure, Versace should be called out on it….not disputing that fact at all. And yes, they should fix the mistake, especially if they are intending to sell the product (which they already did fix it from what’s i read). The part that I feel is overboard is to say that by making a mistake on their T-shirt design, Versace is “undermining China’s sovereignty” and therefore their apology should not be accepted (which is essentially what the government’s mouthpiece via their media is saying). To say that Versace’s designers were “ignorant” – yes, of course, because they were….we can even say they were being “culturally insensitive” if we want to go there…but to politicize it by saying they are “undermining China’s sovereignty”….really? Does the opinion of some Italian fashion designer really matter that much?
  • @prettysup1 Point well-made and taken. It was a bad comparison on my part – I apologize.
  • @llwy12 Wow wow wow first time I hear that Singapore is not a country? Please get your facts right, Singapore is officially an INDEPENDENT COUNTRY since it separated from Malaysia in 1965, with both Malaysia and Singapore in agreement on this, so no controversy here. It is totally different from the China-Taiwan relationship.
  • @llwy12 oh god... I don’t see people get upset when New York, LA get mentioned without a - USA next to it? If HK and Taiwan just be by itself, it should not even matter!
  • @llwy12 thank for explaining. I think the case of your co-worker and boss is understandable - I get it now - but if a big brand makes it in their products (like Versace did) and sells them all over - again, with my Hawaii and US example - will American people and the the Authority brush it off like it was nothing? Well I'm not even Chinese, I just think businesses should respect other countries and invest in more research to get the right fact.
  • @littlefish And just when we thought it couldn’t get any worse...from this Versace issue, we already know that referring to Hong Kong as a separate country is a “sin” in China’s eyes, but now, NOT deliberately calling out Hong Kong as a part of China is a “sin” too. Another major brand, Coach, is under fire now because they have a similar shirt as the Versace one, but instead of Hong Kong-Hong Kong, they simply listed Hong Kong by itself (no country or anything next to it, which to be honest, is how most companies refer to HK), which once again pissed off Mainland netizens and now another Mainland celebrity who was the ambassador for Coach is cutting ties with them because of that. If this continues, Chinese celebrities will have to cut ties with the entire world pretty much, lol...
  • @littlefish Yup, that’s exactly it! They want the world to know that everyone must acquiesce to their demands, no matter how unreasonable. I sure hope that designer doesn’t lose their job over this (if China puts enough pressure on Versace, that might be the next step)...it would be a shame for someone to lose their livelihood over an honest mistake like that. I have no clue what Italy’s labor laws look like (or if they even exist) but if that does happen and there’s the ability to take legal action, then I sure hope the designer takes it!
  • @sassy Well-said! :-) You mentioned Singapore, which is technically a “city-state” (not a country) that used to be under Malaysia and prior to that, was a British colony. So if we apply China’s logic, Malaysian government should technically be having a conniption every time someone refers to Singapore as “a country” even though they separated decades ago (just like China has a conniption every time some one refers to Taiwan — another island state — as a country, even though Taiwan has been independent from China for decades as well)....similar situation in other countries, yet most of them don’t react with such paranoia to a simple “country” reference.
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