• @llwy12 agree with you 100%. Trump is an idiot, he’s a racist, but his statement is also true lol. Also there’s now more and more people chanting the US created the virus and not China, sigh! Stay safe, and you are being a wonderful boss during these challenging time.
  • @funnlim Exactly! A lot of people choose to focus on the racism piece because it’s an easy target exacerbated by Trump’s idiotic rants...but that’s not the only issue that is coming to the fore with this Coronavirus thing. Everyday, there is instance after instance of the younger generation defying the bans and gathering in large groups to party...some are even disgustingly saying on social media that the virus is helping them “get rid of” boomers and older generation who keep harping on millennials and giving them a bad rep! There’s also the very real issue of people losing their jobs or being put in a bind financially due to all the closures of non-essential businesses, especially those who don’t have the option to work from home. Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like now is not the time to get all worked up over Trump’s stupid rants....everyone already knows he’s an idiot who likes to run his mouth and President or not, most people don’t take him seriously anymore. I’m actually more concerned about the everyday hardships that the whole situation is creating, all of which have impacted me personally over the past 2 weeks (i.e.: at work - working through the logistics of getting 100+ staff setup to work from home in order to make sure that they still have a job and income flowing, all while helping to get critical medical supplies to hospitals in a timely manner as part of my job in the transportation industry; at home - helping various relatives file unemployment and other papers so they can get some financial support during this time period, helping my family with shopping trips to various stores to find supplies and necessities while still trying to help relatives and friends overseas who are also impacted by the virus situation, etc). To me, complaining about Trump is the last of my concerns (and in my opinion, should not be the media’s focus either), but I guess my perspective differs from most people on this site who are likely not having to deal with most (if any) of the stuff that I’m dealing with practically every day now.
  • @llwy12 I totally agree and stockpiling and hoarding are already bad enough but to rip others off for your own benefit is truly bad, especially during this time when people need to help each other out. But sadly people are using this an opportunity to cash in. How shameful is that?
  • @llwy12 people have different fears & reactions. She couldve watched the news or heard about experiences of violence. It's legal to own a gun in US; some people even have multiple guns. People also have diff experiences based on whichever neighborhood they're in
  • Hmm....I think Adrienne saying that she fears for her life due to racism is going overboard. I’ve lived in Los Angeles my entire life and while I have encountered discrimination and racism as every other Asian person most likely has, it has never gotten to the point where I fear for my life or feel the need to buy a gun to protect myself or my family. Even now, amid the covid-19 thing, when I (or any of my family members) go out, we don’t feel unsafe at all. But then again everyone’s experiences are different. I think as long as Adrienne speaks for herself rather than try to generalize her experience upon all Asians, I wouldn’t have as much of a problem with what she is saying.
  • @jayne Same...it’s worrisome for sure. Hoping this whole thing ends sooner rather than later.... Yea...I’ve been reading up on all that too. I read that the best thing to do is throw out the packaging as soon as possible and sanitize your hands right after. Steel/metal is the worst, as the virus can live on that for days. One thing I’ve been reminding people of is gas stations...the recommendation is to wrap a tissue around the pump handle when you pick it up and also before you get in your car, sanitize your hands thoroughly. I think they did a study somewhere and found that people were getting the virus from gas station pump because of the steel and also so many different people touch it (and of course gas station doesn’t sanitize that). Stay safe, everyone!
  • @llwy12 Many people have lost their jobs because their income requires their physical presence to do the work. I'm very worried about the economy and with businesses shuttering for weeks, and possibly months if it takes that long to fight the virus, what it means for millions who will be without work. I'm glad to hear that you and your friends are helping each other by buying things for each other. I started sanitizing the food packages I bought since I read that the virus can remain on plastic for hours. Not all staff at the local Trader Joe's wear gloves. I don't know why people are still taking chances at this time.
  • @jimmyszeto Stockpiling is one thing...stockpiling and then trying to shamelessly sell the products for more than they’re worth is the behavior that’s the most abhorrent...like those brothers in Tennessee who stockpiled 17k+ bottles of hand sanitizer and then tried to sell them on Amazon for 100x the price...and when they were called out and Amazon banned them, they ran around complaining that they have no place to sell the products (and claiming that “big bad Amazon” did them wrong)...but what made my blood boil the most was when they did an interview with the media and had the audacity to claim they weren’t price gouging, they were merely factoring in shipping costs...what a bunch of bastards...
  • @jayne Tried both of those and no luck. We’re doing something similar with our friends and neighbors — alerting each other of when things get restocked or sometimes just buying it for each other and leaving the stuff at their doors. It’s crazy...though with that said, I’m just grateful that I work in one of the essential industries so at least I still have a job...seeing friends and relatives around me lose their livelihoods has been heartbreaking...
  • @llwy12 Stock piling which is rather selfish because so this causes many to go without the everyday items and produce. I can’t even get my parents to stop doing this...
  • @llwy12 If you don't need the hygiene products right away, you can order them from Amazon. Some items are on back order. Also Costco will deliver your orders in 2 to 3 days if you order online. Of course, regional warehouses' stock may differ though. In our area, people have been buying up meat quickly and there were no meat deliveries from suppliers for 2 to 3 days. We set up a local Wechat group and people have been sending out alerts when meat or certain items are back in stock to help make it easier for neighbors as to when to go shopping.
  • @jimmyszeto Same thing here in California...and it’s not just toilet paper...any type of paper hygiene products (toilet paper, paper towels, Kleenex, cleaning wipes, etc) is impossible to find anywhere. Also no hand soap, hand sanitizer, diapers, baby wipes, etc...oh and don’t get me started on the food...walking into supermarkets where more than half the shelves are empty, it’s surreal...finally found a store today that had white rice, so snatched up a bag...it’s ridiculous the hoops we have to jump through just to buy basic necessities....
  • @llwy12 Oh gosh, I just saw that on the news and they are freaking out over one death. I feel the panic and paranoid attitude is worse than then virus itself. Many of my cousins are nurses and are very worried about supply shortages as many regular citizens are buying and hoarding supplies. My sister in law works at the pharmacy and said that all masks, hand sanitizers and stuff were all sold out.... the panic and paranoia is getting bad...
  • @jayne Yup…similar situation here in California. Our governor just declared a state of emergency after our local county declared one almost immediately after news came out that there has been 1 death from the virus up in NorCal (Northern California). The anxiety level is sky-high everywhere unfortunately and as more cases get announced, the panic and stockpiling tendencies are just going to get worse. I was talking to a few friends who are doctors and/or nurses and many of them said their biggest fear is that the hospitals they work at won’t have enough supplies and resources to handle an outbreak if there were to be one in their area – as it is, in many hospitals, there are all sorts of reports of non-frontline medical workers taking face masks, medical supplies, contamination prevention suits, etc. and stockpiling them for personal use, resulting in shortages for those who actually need them (such as those who work in the infectious diseases wards for example). One of my co-workers whose wife is a nurse said that the hospital she works at has resorted to locking up face masks and other protective gear in the same vaults where medicines are stored and implementing the same strict security procedures in order to access them (for example – need to have a special badge, vault code, fill out logs detailing exactly what is being taken and for what, etc.). Stockpiling supplies from the store is one thing, but to hoard critically needed supplies from hospitals for personal use instead of saving them for people who truly need them, it’s definitely wrong on so many levels. It’s sad how fear and panic will push people to do such nasty things….
  • @llwy12 Thanks for your take on this issue and I totally agree with you. But I guess it is because this virus is new and unknown so many are just so paranoid and scared. I bet once it becomes common, many will just brush if off like the common cold. Yes, in today’s world when news circulates in a second with just a click of a button, it is hard to differentiate between true or false news. I have not been that worried even though Washington State is my home state( I live in California now). My uncle and many of my cousins still live there. My uncle is in his early 80s with some health issues but I am not that worried about him since he rarely goes out and my cousins would take good care of him. My cousins are very paranoid so I am not worried about them. I must say that all of the stockpiling is not necessarily at all and people are just too paranoid. Of course we should take precautions like washing our hands and avoiding large crowds but I do not get why we need to stock up on toilet paper and other things. That is way over the line. I totally agree that it depends on the situation and if we have elderly or ill family members who have a lesser chance of survival if they caught that virus. My cousin who canceled his trips this summer is in his early 70s so he is of course very scared. His wife who is in her 60s has diabetes so they are scared. However, they are very paranoid and even asked me to look up the price for face masks which was very ridiculously expensive. I find it sick that many are trying to cash in during this tough time instead of helping each other out. Sadly money still takes priority overall. Our world has become a materialistic one... sigh...
  • @hetieshou To be honest, I do feel it's overhyped, but I am not surprised, as that is usually what happens when there is a new strain of something with so many unknown variables (it's human nature to fear the unknown)...plus it doesn't help that in today's world of social media proliferation, anyone can put anything out there so makes it difficult to differentiate between what news is real and what's fake. With that said though, I actually haven't been too worried about the coronavirus thing because my family and I have been following the recommended precautions of washing our hands thoroughly and more often, using hand sanitizer when needed, cleaning and disinfecting more often, etc. I think the important thing too is staying informed and also, as much as possible, vetting the information that is out there about the virus and not just believing the latest rumors that others may pass along. Like all the panic buying of hand sanitizer, water, toilet paper, etc. this past week after the reports of those deaths in Washington, I definitely think it's going overboard...I mean, being prepared is one thing, but stockpiling is honestly unnecessary. The one measure I do agree with is avoiding large gatherings if possible because from what has come out so far from the CDC and WHO (gathered from research into the various cases around the world so far), the virus spreads more prevalently through respiratory droplets when people cough or sneeze...when there are large crowds with people in close proximity to each other for long periods of time (like at a concert for instance), the risk is greater. At the end of the day though, I think it really depends on each person's situation...as many of my friends and co-workers have said, they're not worried about themselves, but they do worry about family members who may have less chance of survival if they were to catch the virus (for example, the elderly and those with underlying health conditions, which so far have been the bulk of the deaths around the world).
  • @llwy12 I agree and I really want to know your opinion about this whole coronavirus thing. Do you think it is overhyped and all? Everyone in my family is so paranoid about it. My cousin cancelled his trips this summer due to this virus. I totally agree that those netizens are so annoying. I bet they are just jealous that they do not have the means to travel like the celebrities do. If they are not infected with the virus then why can’t they travel? It is just plain jealousy.
  • Looks like the longer this coronavirus thing goes on, the crazier people get. What’s next? People aren’t allowed to breathe unless they wear a face mask? I mean, ok, if those celebrities are ill or whatnot and they still go traveling around the world irresponsibly spreading their illness, then fine, criticize. But if they’re not sick and choose to go on vacation like they normally would? I don’t see a problem with that at all. Those netizens are probably just bitter that they don’t have the means or the finances to leave the country and want everyone else to suffer with them….
  • @llwy12 Sorry about my double comment! I submitted it the first time and it didn't go through so I thought I got flagged, but I totally agree with you. The irrationality from a lot of Hong Kongers have gotten to be so extreme! Where's the 人情味?What happened to staying united for Hong Kong? Oh right, only those who are pro-democracy are allowed to have a voice; others with different political stances and/or neutral are considered enemies. Like use your brains! These tactics are furthering the divide. I get livid when I see comments on Facebook posts from protesters or watch the news cause it's no longer just about the fight for democracy. A lot of them are bullying and pressuring others to justify their actions. It's appalling. Also this is off-topic, but do you know what happened to Asianfanatics? I went on the website at the end of last year and it's no longer there. :(
  • @jayne “Controversial” is an understatement when used to describe Jeff back then, lol. I remember how much the media was saturated with news about Jeff and Teresa’s relationship at the time (it was like a never ending soap opera basically) and all the interviews they would do, whether individually or together. The fallout between the two of them later on I also remember was really ugly. But yea, Teresa definitely came off as the spited rich woman who did whatever the hell she wanted and Jeff was the mentally unstable lap dog who also had anger management problems.
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