• Wow…I’m literally speechless right now…definitely a new low for TVB! When artists like Rebecca Zhu and Edwin Siu – both of whom can’t act to save their lives -- get put in the front row (which is basically sending a message to audiences that they are the best the station’s got right now), you know TVB has hit rock bottom. With this year being the worst artist lineup in TVB’s 50 year history, I don’t even want to know what the Anniversary Awards at the end of the year is going to look like – if last year’s was bad, I’m afraid this year will be 100x worse….
  • What about the pictures of Louis and Jessica? They attended as well and Tak gor talked about how he got so much grief from fans for “breaking up” the two of them in DIF IV, lol. I like Tak gor...he produced some good series back in the day, though ones from recent years have been so-so. Happy retirement (and birthday) to him! :-)
  • @anon Haha...this article was actually one of the tamer ones and honestly, all 3 rules above are technically public knowledge (I even remember questioning rule #2 and whether it was feasible given the ubiquity of social media). HK01 actually published a series of “TVB secrets” articles that talk about some of the “real” behind-the-scenes secrets revealed by former TVB staff....those articles are a lot more interesting....
  • @llwy12 Agreed. The first one was terrible. So clique. Had to force myself to get to episode 7 before I dropped it. Which is a shame because they managed to get some decent actors/actresses to join the cast, but unfortunately they focused too much on the "drama" aspect.
  • @bearbear ‘Unfortunately not all have the “power” to demand that.‘ That’s the piece I have a problem with….I don’t think it’s a matter of the artists not having the power to demand basic things such as sufficient rest or complete script, but rather they choose not to because of various reasons – for example: their personality, they want to give face to TVB and/or a part of them still has loyalty to TVB and so don’t want to rock the boat, they are complacent in that the industry has worked this way for years so why change things, it’s not important enough to them to risk parting ways with TVB, etc. Most of the veteran artists whom TVB invites back to film for them I feel fall into the “TVB needs them more than they need TVB” category, which means all of them have the upper hand so they SHOULD be making demands….the only ones who are truly “powerless” are the newbies and the ones under management contract (and the ones who have to rely on TVB in any way, shape, or form and therefore can’t afford to piss them off). As I’ve been saying for years, if all the veteran artists whom TVB invites back would stand their ground and refuse to film for TVB until their demands are met, TVB wouldn’t be as complacent and arrogant as they are now. But since no one stands up to TVB (Anthony and Sheren are amongst the small handful who do, but since majority don’t, their efforts are fruitless), they will continue to be how they are – why change when no one is forcing them to do so?
  • The first one wasn’t good so don’t know why they are even bothering with a sequel. And don’t be surprised if this sequel is worse, as TVB/Shaw Brothers spent most of the series’ budget paying Lee Pace’s salary so it’s pretty much guaranteed they skimped on everything else….
  • @anon Linda’s purpose was basically to fulfill her contractual obligations (and also to flaunt her fluent English, lol). TVB is basically dead already at this point, at least where the HK market is concerned. They have little to no talent left, their production quality/value has gone from bad to worse, the management team keeps making the wrong moves, etc. – it’s almost as though they don’t care anymore. It’s quite telling that, over the past few years, TVB has only done one thing successfully and that is – piss off and push away their main audience pool.
  • @jimmyszeto Yes, especially when they already knew the theme of the series (about HK business politics) is not going to resonate with Mainland audiences. From the start, Another Era was destined to fail in Mainland because there was nothing in the series that would motivate audiences to watch (the cast is relatively “unknown” to them, theme is too localized to HK, plot too complicated for them to understand, etc.). Honestly, whoever is in charge of overseeing the Mainland/TVB collaborations side of things should be fired, as they obviously don’t know what they are doing (actually, IMO, the entire management team should be fired for running TVB into the ground for the past 15 years, but that’s just me…).
  • @llwy12 Would rather not have these established artists return if the production is the average standard of TVB dramas these days. All actors have the basic rights to ask for sufficient rest. Occasional "OT" maybe alright but TVB is infamous of making their artists go through days of very little or no rest. Unfortunately not all have the "power" to demand that.
  • @m0m0 I don’t really care about hair or style or whatnot…what I want to know is – what’s up with that “pissed off” look? I know he’s a rapper and all and maybe he thinks looking pissed makes him look cool but honestly, it just makes him look awkward….but then again, I’m from the older generation so perhaps I just don’t understand young people’s trends and habits nowadays….
  • @llwy12 @jimmyszeto @anon I ain't looking forward to looking forward to watching the third installment. I only liked the original of Triumph in the Skies compared to the sequel which was a major disappointment. I don’t like that they’re breaking up a couple that was established in the first series (Francis/Myolie) even though I’m not a huge fan of the pairing. I think it’s completely silly and absurd bringing in a Zoe's lookalike. Summer's character shouldn’t even exist in the sequel. Don't understand why the script writer have to kill of Zoe's character and make her pair up with Ron. Couldn’t they find another actress to play as Issac's love interest instead? Can’t the writers think of a better plot for a married Sam and Zoe? It would have been much more interesting if they have continued the storyline of Sam and Zoe in the sequel and showed their married life. I also hate the fact that the writer failed to mention what happened to the original cast members. The original characters was just written off without any explanations. As if they never existed in the first place. No mention at all. I know the original cast won't appear in the sequel, but the scriptwriter should have at least mention what happened to Belle Donald, Zita, Chris, Ruby and Paul's characters in dialogue.
  • @bearbear TVB is banking on nostalgia and also fans of the artists to support the series…that has always been their strategy and they have no intention of changing it (because it’s the easiest for them) – this is why almost 99.9% of the time, whenever they invite a “big name” to return and film for them, they don’t bother with the script or production quality -- the one exception was when Anthony Wong returned for Lord of Shanghai, where TVB actually took the production seriously and put 110% effort into it, but then again, that was because Anthony pretty much demanded it (and they were probably afraid he would walk out mid-filming if they pissed him off enough, something that he has been known to do, lol). Latest example is Sheren Tang: both TVB and ViuTV approached her about filming for them, but in the end, it was ViuTV that was able to deliver what she requested (100% complete, quality script prior to filming so she would have time to do her homework / prepare for the role and also specific work hours where she would be able to get sufficient rest and sleep in-line with her current lifestyle) – so of course she went with ViuTV (smart choice if you ask me). Basically, the lesson here is that if a “big name” does return, they better as hell make sure they have a list of demands and force TVB to agree to all of them BEFORE agreeing to film for them…if they are just going to let TVB do whatever it wants, then it’s best those artists don’t return at all.
  • @anon Haven’t heard anything concrete about either one. OCTB crew last updated their FB page in September but didn’t post anything definitive…there are tons of comments asking when season 2 will be coming out but no response so far….haven’t read anything in particular outside of that. Fox Asia last updated Stained’s FB page back in June – I don’t think that series will come out any time soon, as last I heard, they had re-edited the series into a movie and it’s currently doing its run through the various film festivals, so probably earliest release will be some time in early 2019 (purely guessing here).
  • @llwy12 Any news when OCTB 2 and Fox Asia's Kara Hui series will be released? Looking forward to it.
  • It’s not going to happen because 1) DIF franchise’s producer Poon Ka Tak already retired and left TVB – if they bring in another producer, there are going to be continuity issues with the story and also production style will be different, 2) it’s impossible to assemble the same cast from DIF IV – Sunny won’t be returning to TVB any time soon (if ever) and Louis is too valuable now with his HKFA Best Actor win…TVB won’t be able to afford him….Charmaine and Jessica I’ve never been fan of so whether they return or not doesn’t matter to me but I highly doubt that either of them are going to return to TVB given its current dismal state. Either way, no interest in watching if it does happen, as nowadays, my time is too precious to be wasting it on mediocre series even if the cast is good (and yes, it is going to be mediocre because it’s a TVB production and they are incapable of making quality series anymore). But of course, I will believe it when I see it given TVB’s horrible track record of touting big stars returning when they actually never promised to do so.
  • @jimmyszeto Yup….that is definitely the direction, though unfortunately, the Mainland-TVB collaborations have mostly sucked. Aside from DITROC, which I personally felt sucked but from a ratings standpoint, it was decent, all the other Mainland co-productions have suffered low ratings and poor word of mouth. The latest co-production to fall into this category is Another Era, which only managed to garner an average rating of 21.3 points throughout its run so far (the last week of September, ratings went all the way down to 19 points…) and the audience feedback has been poor – that series cost 100 million HKD to make, boasts a supposedly “all-star” cast, and featured aesthetically pleasing on location filming in various locations (and it had the advantage of piggy backing off of At the Threshold of an Era’s success). With that type of investment, the series still failed miserably -- so what makes TVB think that putting similar investment (investing hundreds of millions into the production and also collaborating with Mainland) in yet another spinoff / sequel to another popular franchise is going to work? As much as I love Francis Ng, even he won’t be able to save Triumph 2020 (especially if he is going to be the only one holding down the fort on the HK side). For Cantonese series, I’m putting my hope in ViuTV now, though to be honest, not all their series are good, but at least they are putting in the effort and overall, their series (the ones they produce themselves that is) are better quality and more refreshing to watch with the varied casts and well-written scripts. As far as web series go, still waiting for OCTB season 2 as well as the latest offerings from Fox Asia….outside of those, there honestly isn’t much hope for HK / Cantonese series anymore….
  • @peachyogurt Yup...the current management is running TVB into the ground (though I guess technically they’ve been doing that for at least 15 years already, given that TVB was already in decline years ago). Basically what TVB is trying to tell us is this: hey audiences, you want us to focus on production values like real location filming and better scripts and such — sure, but the only way we will be able to do that is to fire a bunch of people so we can take the money we were going to pay their salaries with and use it for this...if we don’t do this, the only other alternative is for you all to continue to endure crappy productions....sorry! For TVB, especially under Mark Lee’s leadership, pretty much the answer to all their problems is to “cut, cut, and cut some more!”
  • @llwy12 Yeah, I have no idea who is managing TVB right now, but they are doing a very poor job. Stingy and greedy employers...
  • @anon Nah, they won’t go out of business….they can just rebrand themselves and become CCTVB, lol. In all seriousness though – I agree with you….TVB keeps complaining year after year that advertising revenue has gone down and while that is true, they are still able to bank a hefty profit quarter after quarter. And like I said before, TVB is going about this the wrong way – yes, they need to fix the issues that run deep within their company, but the answer isn’t to lay off people so they can save money by not having to pay those people’s salaries. If anything, they need to take care of their people and treat them better because at the end of the day, the fate of the company is in their employees’ hands.
  • This is actually old news. Back in August, TVB’s CEO Mark Lee already said that they would be laying off an additional 200 people (approximately 5%) by the end of the year – this was on top of the 10% reduction in staff (roughly 430 people) they already did throughout this year. So by the end of 2018, more than 600 people will have been laid off. Basically, most of the “reductions” and “shutting down” that they are doing now is stuff they already talked about a few months ago, so no one should be surprised, to be honest.
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