• @llwy12 Very, very well said. I appreciate and respect your reply. We do not have to always agree about the subject/s of an article, and can have a great argument with each other, as long as both parties are making sensible, relevant comments. Not like how I was attacked so ignorantly with accusations of my comments that made no sense whatsoever. The comment that I made, and that you replied to was replied to in a logical, sensible and matured manner. I basically made the same comment earlier and I'm still scratching my head with the childish gibberish that went on as replies to my comment/s. Enjoy and respect whatever you say, no matter if we are not in agreement. For the record, I am not a fan of Angelababy or her husband either, lol. Her acting stinks. I do know if his acting or his singing stinks more.
  • @bubbletea I think depending on the person and their experiences, their perspective on this situation will probably be different. I personally could care less about Angelababy or the Running Man show because I don’t watch that show nor do I watch any of ABB’s works (saw 1 movie she was in a long time ago and was not impressed) – and I certainly don’t follow her news (or news related to her husband) outside of the major headlines in general entertainment news, so I can’t comment on whether she has a track record of lying or being a diva or pulling these same stunts in the past. With that said, I decided to comment on this article because I’m particularly sensitive to issues of fairness, professionalism, preferential treatment, etc. because I deal with that stuff day in and day out as part of my job — something like ABB’s incident as described in the article wouldn’t sit well with me whereas others may see it as netizens overreacting or that it’s no big deal. For me, it’s about the incident and the way it was handled, not necessarily the artist -- it could be another female on the show, not ABB, and I would still have the same reaction (though of course I’ve followed the entertainment industry long enough to know that others may not feel the same way and there will undoubtedly be some element of “hate” from some netizens merely because the celebrity at the center of the issue is Angelababy). I definitely agree with what everyone else has been saying about BBC getting it all wrong by focusing on the period thing and turning this into a “oh China is so barbaric because they won’t let people talk about menstruation” issue. For me, it was never about the specific excuse ABB made but rather the fact that she was given preferential treatment and/or expected to be given such treatment just because she wasn’t feeling well. And yes, I agree that if the production team and/or her cast mates knew about her condition and so went easy on her (or she didn’t want to go in but the production team insisted that she do so), then they should be backing her up publicly. By the same token, netizens/audiences have the right to be angry when they feel an injustice is being done, so I don’t blame them either, though I do agree that there was no need to focus on the menstruation thing and blow the issue up to the extent it did… I think we can probably all debate this thing until we’re all blue in the face and still not be in agreement, lol, but I don’t necessarily feel that we all HAVE to agree. Like I said earlier, our opinions may all be different due to our own individual circumstances and experiences — for me, as long as the argument makes sense and is backed up with proper reasoning (not a generic “so-and-so sucks because they just do” type of argument), then I’m usually fine with agreeing to disagree.
  • @llwy12 You are one of the members here who's comments I respect. I want to say a few things, and I expect to get a mature, decent, sensible reply from you, even if you disagree. I am no fan of Angelababy, or her husband, as anyone can see from my posts. Just because I am not a fan of someone does not mean I am not willing to weigh all rhe pros and cons of an article about said person. We all know AB lies through her teeth like a pro. She is also a spoiled, whiney, entitled diva who will take preferential treatment when she gets it without consideration for others. Maybe she was having her period, maybe not. I do agree with you that she should have stayed at home if she was not feeling well. It is not cool to come in and give a half baked performance. It is indeed a lack of professionalism. Angelababy has been known to pull such stunts before. I do not blame the fans/netizens for voicing their anger if they felt she was received favoritism treatment. The netizens voicing their anger is, or was never my problem. My problem is how they behaved when she said in a public interview that she was on her period. That kind of caveman, Jurassic behavior is very backward, ignorant and uncalled for. I was even wondering if maybe, after the Bowie Tsang incident, where she, Bowie, ended up in the hospital, if the producers still asked AB to participate, with her being dunked less. If this was the case, it would have been discussed amongst the participants , which would result in them dunking AB less than others in the water. Just putting out a possible situation. We need to understand that all of us might not like Angelababy but she still will have her fans. Producers, directors etc like it when the idols show up than not have them there at all. If this is the case, they need to back AB up. If she is being her usual annoying, manipulative entitled lying self, then she needs to be called out for her disregard of other participants and her unprofessional.
  • @peanutbutterjelly @littlefish I can see where the way I worded it might have caused confusion. The point I was trying to get at is that it’s better to pull out if you’re feeling ill and not participate at all rather than participate half-heartedly and expect people to give you preferential treatment. I bring up the Bowie example mostly to show why it makes sense the way Angelababy dealt with her situation made people angry (just to clarify, in Bowie’s situation, she never said that she felt unwell or sick at the time she was participating in those games – the whole menstruating thing wasn’t even brought up until later when people found out she had been in the hospital and were trying to understand what happened). No one is saying that people should deliberately put their health at risk for a job – that is indeed silly and stupid….what I AM saying is that someone expecting to get preferential treatment just because they decided to still go into work while they were ill (which is essentially what ABB did) IS unprofessional. If someone is ill enough to feel like they should be given a pass at work, then why even go into work in the first place? Maybe this is a better example: I’m in a management position at my company and always tell my staff that if they are not feeling well, they should take a sick day to rest and get better rather than force themselves to come to work and only be half as productive as they normally would be if they weren’t ill – the “unprofessional” part is when the staff insists on still coming in to work while sick and then expects me to give them a lighter load because they don’t feel well (which of course is unfair to other staff)….in that scenario, I tell them to go home because I’m not going to give them preferential treatment at the expense of other staff just because they chose to still come in to work. On the other side of the coin, there are those staff who still come in to work even though they are not feeling well and do the same amount of work as they usually would without any thought of being treated differently (in fact, it doesn’t even occur to them that they should be treated differently because to them, they are doing what they normally do). Looking at it from this perspective, I think we can sum up ABB’s situation this way: she had the option of “calling out sick” and that’s what she technically should have done if she didn’t feel well…however she choose to still go in to work, which is fine, but she would’ve been expected to still perform at 100%....instead she performs at 50% and when called out on it, the excuse is she was “not feeling well” and that affected her performance….well duh – that’s why she should’ve “called out sick” in the first place!
  • @llwy12 "Bowie was smart enough to know that allowing herself to be dunked in contaminated water during a time when she was most vulnerable wasn’t ideal" She obviously wasn't otherwise she wouldn't have gotten the pelvic infection and needed the surgery, which sounds very scary to be honest. Putting your own health at risk like that for a job is not professionalism in my book but stupidity. I don't think she should be praised for it because I don't condone this kind of culture or mentality. I have a friend living in Japan who overworked himself (long hours, OT) so much he needed to get hospitalised more than once. One can say it's his own choice (and it was) but it's also the Japanese working mentality that shames you for taking one day of sick leave that cultivated this unhealthy behaviour. And I'm afraid that how you worded it the Bowie situation: "she could have pulled out, made an excuse, say she didn’t want to do it because she’s menstruating, half-a** it or whatnot…yet she didn’t do any of that stuff. She participated and played the game the way it was supposed to be played without expecting or asking for preferential treatment" made it sound like if she did any of those things (pulling out, asking for 'preferential treatment' as you call it...) it is unprofessional or unacceptable behaviour even though we have direct proof of the horrifying consequences she needed to deal with for not 'pulling out' or asking for understanding of her situation. If anything, the Bowie-example just proved that AB had the right compromise for doing her job yet still looking out for her well-being. I don't watch the show but to me people getting mad at her for not being in freezing water enough (unless that's the whole point of the show? Is it? I honestly don't know) seems like a very petty overreaction.
  • I honestly feel like people are convoluting the issue here. At the core, the issue really isn’t about menstruation or whether it’s a taboo or not to talk about it in public – the issue is Angelababy’s lack of professionalism, which is what it sounds like people have problems with. Doesn’t really matter what her excuse is – if she didn’t feel well or knew that she wouldn’t be able to participate fully in the program due to her condition, why didn’t she just pull out or wait a couple more weeks to return? Why insist on participating and then expect to get preferential treatment? Why even put yourself in that situation knowing that it will generate controversy? Of course, Angelababy being who she is, I’m not surprised if this was yet another way to get media exposure. Honestly, she could have prevented this whole thing by just not participating in the filming at all and give whatever excuse she wanted to the production team without it being made public (i.e. similar to calling in sick to work – you call the relevant people to tell them you’re not coming in, but of course you’re not going to broadcast it to the whole world)…..but of course, since she wants the attention, doing it the way she did is better for her…. Bottom line – it’s more about the way Angelababy handled the situation than anything else. Perhaps if we have a similar example as a comparison, might be easier to understand. 3 years ago, when Eric Tsang and his daughter Bowie Tsang participated in the game show Amazing Race China, Bowie got dunked repeatedly in contaminated water during one of the segments. She ended up with a pelvic infection that required surgery and put her out of commission for 2 months. It was later discovered that the infection occurred because she was in the middle of her menstrual cycle at the time, which made her body and her pelvic area in particular more vulnerable and allowed the bacteria from the contaminated sewage water to enter (it’s similar to if you had a cut on your hand that was bleeding and instead of putting a bandage on it, you soak it in dirty water instead). Bowie returned to filming the show after that and continued to put in 110% effort as if nothing had happened….to be honest, if you were to watch the show in its entirety without paying attention to entertainment news, you wouldn’t even know that something major like that had happened. I’m sure Bowie was smart enough to know that allowing herself to be dunked in contaminated water during a time when she was most vulnerable wasn’t ideal – she could have pulled out, made an excuse, say she didn’t want to do it because she’s menstruating, half-a** it or whatnot…yet she didn’t do any of that stuff. She participated and played the game the way it was supposed to be played without expecting or asking for preferential treatment (which she most definitely would have gotten if she had asked) – and even after the infection thing occurred, she kept it low profile with most people not finding out about it until after she left the hospital. So comparing this to ABB’s thing – well, I can see why people would be mad at her for putting in half-a** effort in the first place, then giving an excuse afterwards to justify it….
  • @llwy12 "It’s already rumored that majority of Chrissie Chau’s scenes will be cut due to the ban on artists from Stephen Shiu Jr’s company" This is a big disappointment for me. The main attraction to this series for me is Chrissie Chau. If their are going to cut majority of her scenes, I might as well wait for the overseas version. I hope when they release it in DVD form, it will be a complete version.
  • @llwy12 Agree!. IT would be a waste of time for Fala Chen to waste her time, talent, degree and energy by going back to TVB. I would be disappointed in her. Fala is a decent actress and with the ability to speak understandable english, the sky is the limit, and Hollywood should be her next stop. Proud of her for getting her degree. In fact, I am proud of anyone who study and gain a degree. Right @hetieshou?
  • Congrats to Fala! Looks like she is headed to Hollywood next, as it is reported that she signed with management company UTA, which is the same company that manages Oscar winner Frances McDormand. With an MFA, pretty sure Fala will get plenty of great opportunities...hope she doesn’t waste those opportunities by returning to TVB — she can and most definitely SHOULD do better!
  • @elizabeth Well-said! Considering I didn’t even like the first installment, part 2 seems like a downgrade so of course not interested in watching. I saw the trailer and to be honest, it doesn’t look appealing – the costume / dress doesn’t bother me as much (it rarely does, even in blatant instances when TVB actually recycles costumes from one series to another), but the speech / way of speaking does….most of the females seemed to be speaking their dialogue really slowly, like they were trying to enunciate every word….not sure if it was just those scenes in the trailer and “making of” show (which I only watched parts of) but the way they spoke sounded very unnatural and to me was distracting…. In terms of story – well, we already know that TVB rarely sticks to history so plot-wise I wouldn’t expect much but with TVB’s recent penchant toward editing their series to fit a certain agenda, I wouldn’t be surprised if the story ends up not making much sense. It’s already rumored that majority of Chrissie Chau’s scenes will be cut due to the ban on artists from Stephen Shiu Jr’s company, so depending on how big a role she had, that might affect the story adversely….and now they’re having problems getting the series approved to air in Mainland China (which is their target market), so depending on what the issue is with the delay in approval, that could affect things as well (meaning if it was certain scenes that didn’t pass censors, then most likely they will need to cut those as well). So far it’s not looking good at all….
  • @passingby You’re very welcome! :-) Great movies deserve recognition and I honestly feel “Happiness” didn’t get as much accolade as it rightfully deserved (despite Kara Hui’s HKFA Best Actress win as well as a few of the other awards the movie had gotten back then). It’s a very quiet “outside the mainstream” type of movie with more of an arthouse feel, not the traditional “action-packed blockbuster” that HK audiences are used to, yet it packs a punch that is far greater than those action movies due to its societal relevance and the message it sends about people dealing with dementia and other serious illnesses. I agree that the chemistry between Kara and Carlos was awesome, though Carlos also did a great job holding his own (for example – that hospital scene when Ah Yuk’s dad basically disowns him and he is hurting so much inside, yet has to keep his emotions in check – Carlos nailed the emotional nuances in that scene, to the point that it broke my heart to watch….it was one of the many scenes that made me cry, even though overall the movie itself was relatively positive and uplifting). That movie had so many great scenes and meaningful dialogue — I also kept going back to re-watch some parts. True about the singing part, though hearing Carlos describe his early career, seems like it might have been a blessing in disguise, since it looks like he knew his strength wasn’t in singing so he decided to concentrate on acting instead. And yes, he’s very shy and as he says himself, lacks confidence and tends to be much harder on himself than he needs to be (which I personally find endearing, lol), but I agree that if he wants to survive in this industry long term, he will need to change that mindset a bit.
  • @kolo To be honest, I actually feel it’s a good thing because if he had been a TVB artist back then, he wouldn’t have gotten the opportunities in movies that allowed him to build up his resume the way he did, which also means he most certainly would not have gotten this particular role in Daddy Cool. We all know how horribly TVB has managed their own artists in the past 10 to 15 years, there’s no doubt Carlos would’ve been thrown by the wayside (I say this knowing that for the first few years of his career, Carlos didn’t really know what he wanted to do and basically went through the motions, even losing his way at one point...it wasn’t until Heiward Mak cast him in the movie “Diva” that he was able to get his movie career back on track and pave the way for his big break in the award-winning film “Happiness” 3 years ago. If he had been a TVB artist, they most definitely would’ve given up on him before then.) Carlos is currently with EEG, which is the same company he’s been with since he debuted as a “singer” back in 2003. Now I will be the first to say that I can’t stand EEG almost as much as I can’t stand TVB nowadays and it’s still true to some extent, but mostly on the music side of things...EEG’s involvement in movies has actually been quite good, signing veteran actors/actresses and investing in quality productions — wish they would show the same diligence to their music business.
  • @llwy12 its pity but if he isnt tvb own son he will not be promoted as no.1 siu sang. thats tvb's policy. i dont understand why tvb didnt gave him a contract back then. its just a loss for tvb now that he is an artist from other company.
  • @kolo I agree, though just a clarification in that Carlos is not a TVB artist (even 10 years ago when he was in the TVB idol drama, he participated not as a TVB artist), so saying he is “from TVB” would be inaccurate. But yes, I also tuned in mostly because of him (though partly was because of Wayne and John as well)...the story overall was so-so and there is more than enough to complain about in terms of plot, but the casting and also acting are where this series excelled. Wayne and John of course it’s expected that their acting will be excellent....Carlos however I think most audiences didn’t know what to expect...I will admit I was a bit worried at first because even though I’d seen his previous performances in movies and know he’s capable, filming movies and television are very different, plus it’s TVB after all, which has been known in recent years for causing even the best of actors/actresses to suck...needless to say I was relieved to see Carlos do so well....his performance in the finale was top notch, especially after he found out about his illness and had to adjust his acting to reflect this — his control over his posture and facial expressions was impressive!
  • @llwy12 samantha's got the looks that wong jing would like but i think his recent tastes have really declined. the girls he's been promoting all look old fashion beauty "loung" but they all have disproportionate bodies.
  • Wow, TVB is that desperate now they have to cast Samantha as lead? She doesn’t have the charisma to lead a series for one and two her acting is mediocre at best. The story itself sounds lame and the rest of the cast is nothing to shout about either…..looks like this will definitely be another “auto-skip” for me.
  • @m0m0 Supposedly, Samantha is one of Wong Jing’s recent favorites, which is why he’s been including her in his own series and also movies (she filmed one of his movies that hasn’t been released yet). With her voluptuous figure, it’s actually not surprising that Wong Jing would set his sights on Samantha, since most of his “Jing Ladies” are the sensual, pretty type with good bodies who usually get cast in sexy roles meant to show off their assets (though with that said, I don’t think Samantha is officially a “Jing Lady,” at least not yet). There were also rumors a few years back that TVB’s current owner Charles Chan pegged Samantha as his new favorite, replacing Kate Tsui (who used to be his favorite), which is why she’s been getting so many opportunities at TVB – Charles Chan also happens to be good friends with Wong Jing so that’s probably how Samantha’s connection to WJ started….
  • @gregrh Very true about the quality part. Many of TVB’s best series from their Golden Age (late 1970s to early 1990s) were 40+ episodes and most of those are classics that are still revered even today. With that said though, it’s harder to find success with long episode counts nowadays, since audiences have so many options and being able to capture as well as maintain their attention is a challenge — which is why TVB needs to focus on the story and eliminate all the fluff that will turn audiences away faster than they realize. Personally, I can’t stand Mainland series — yes, the quality is there in terms of production values, but story-wise, too long and draggy.
  • @llwy12 TVB's method of production is rubbish - they really just don't care about quality. But making series based on episode count can work if done properly with high production values. I watch mostly Mainland series that are 50+ episodes and they're quite enjoyable.
  • Of course, no one should be surprised. Even with a good premise, once it gets into TVB's hands, they are bound to mess it up. Honestly, the way TVB produces its series is still so antiquated -- they need to stop making series based on episode count and instead just let the story flow (I would much rather watch a series that is only 5 or 6 episodes but the story is tightly written and nothing is dragged out). You know, it's kind of funny -- TVB's series copied so many things from HKTV's series the past few years, but they didn't seem to "copy" one of the most important aspects of HKTV's series, which was an "open" approach to filming based on script rather than episode count (HKTV's series ranged from 5 episodes to 25 episodes, with most series being somewhere in between -- for example: The Election was 15 episodes, Borderline was 17, The Menu was 24, To Be or Not to Be was 25, Doom+5 was 5 eps, Karma was 9 episodes, etc). One of the best series I watched last year (ok, technically the past 3 years in terms of HK series) was ViuTV's "My Very Short Marriage", which was only 5 episodes, yet it was so profound and thought-provoking (of course much of this had to do with the fabulous script written by Candace Chong and the excellent directing by award-winning HK film director Steve Chan). It's a series that I've already re-watched several times and still, it makes me think and reflect each time... Also, both of Fox Asia's upcoming highly anticipated HK series ("The Trading Floor" and "Stained) are only 5 episodes and though neither series has aired yet, the 1 minute trailers for both already blow all of TVB's series out of the water. Basically, as illustrated above, there are plenty of examples out there where the producers/directors let the script dictate the flow of the series rather than the episode counts and those turned out really well. This is obviously yet another one of the "antiquated processes" that TVB needs to change....
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