• @vell so you don't have nightmares for the "REAL" innocent people in hk that gets beaten up by the rioters? They are not BRUTAL for doing that?!? If they are not there to destroy the city, the police won't be there. So why don't you tell the rioters to go HOME, stop screaming at the police and stop beating up innocent people! When you go to sleep tonight, think of those that gets beat up and their family! Hope you have a good night sleep!
  • @afan202 wtf..she fell and got those cuts?? What kind of **** are you looking at? Even though some videos blurred out before she fell.. you can still see he punched her.
  • @chunkymonkey stop showing us cut out videos https://youtu.be/fYebcc-8yVA do you not see someone kicked her first?? And someone sprayed her with spray paint??
  • @mooi Thanks. From the glimpses i've seen in reports so far, quite a few earlier headlines with the world 'passer by' but then the from the clothes and mask she wore, it looked like she was one of the protesters. Yeh, agree that type of violence cannot be condoned but who did it can determine which side has gone too far in the events so far...
  • @jimmyszeto hello~ she was a protester. There was a picture that looks like her showing her giving out money to protesters too. I’ll try to find a pic for you. Of course I know it shouldn’t cost her an eye. That’s sad. But as of yesterday, it’s still not proven that it was the police since the girl and the reporters didn’t go to the police. That’s what I don’t get.. why no reporters though? They always try to make the police look bad. Will see if anyone comes out~~
  • @mooi Since I'm not from HK, I have not heard of any inside news. Is the girl a member of the protest or was she a passer by? Also has it been proven that it was the police who caused the injury?
  • @goodday so why no reporter went to the police and give a statement?
  • @ice006 sorry didn't have time to reply sooner. Hey, I feel sorry for the girl too! I saw her new video today but no mention of what had happened. I know she might be scared to come out to report what happened to the police but what's weird is not even one reporter went to the police when they say they got all those pictures and saw it from their own eyes. I'm not saying police is right.. they should do better but now protesters are beating up people when they're not agreeing with them.. I think that is wrong. Do you think that's right?
  • @mooi Hmm maybe in some of the other videos, beanbag could have been taken by someone (it could anyone, protestors , pro-CCP, someone wanting a photo-op, accidentally kicked aside), we might never find out. I’m ok with using the term of alleged police shooting for this case if you are! I guess I just feel super sad for this girl who had her whole life ahead of her still, and regardless of if it can proven the police shot her, I don’t approve of police brutality and continuing to shoot people with those lead beanbags and tear gas. Protestors are human too :(
  • @ice006 @mooi https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/08/22/eye4hk-campaign-support-hong-kong-protesters-gains-international-momentum/ Who else besides the police have guns that have the force to fire the metal beanbags bullet. Only powerful force can break through these special protective eyewears.
  • @mooi https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/08/22/eye4hk-campaign-support-hong-kong-protesters-gains-international-momentum/ Who else besides the police have guns that have the force to fire the metal beanbags bullet. Only powerful force can break through these special protective eyewears.
  • @ice006 hihi.. ahh I know what you mean! I'm trying to find the original again but too much videos on YouTube lol I think you would still hear the beanbag sound since the police station is just right behind? Thanks for link! It does look like something was in her goggles.. it is still a bit blurry though. Don't know why the other video I linked doesn't show the beanbag in the googles.
  • @mooi Hey~ So this was the video that was most convincing for me: https://reddit.app.link/WxI3PFOUqZ at 1:09 I tried to find a better source but too many things on Apple Daily lol I saw the 3 screen live shot link you shared. I think the footages were taken live at the time, however when shown to audience, it’s after editing, since the 2 female commentators’ voiceovers seem to have been added after the fact. (They were discussing details of shooting even when it was chaotic/not exactly clear what happened/before it actually happened? ) So based on this I’d say I need more evidence to be sure they didn’t (accidentally or otherwise) mis-synchronize the 3 streams, esp since it seems they used audio from the TST location only and muted the audio from the Wan Chai streams, based on comparison of sound with the 1 site streaming video. I also wonder if beanbag shooting would be audible in that (noisy) environment? Thanks for sharing the links and hope to hear from you soon!
  • @ice006 the link I sent was actually a 3 screen live video. Let me link you to the original https://youtu.be/qJJb7dsOtcE at 00:40 you will see where that noise came from (bottom right). https://youtu.be/IV07LTaNCdY at 01:39 you will see no beanbag on her goggles. Even if it fell out.. it should be close to it right? The reporters will definitely capture it on live if it’s there. That video you link. It does kinda looks like there’s something there but it is kind of blurry. You would think there will be a better video or another angle since there’s so much reporters that day. Yes I’m open for discussion too!
  • @mooi 1) I watched the video you linked, there was a noise at 2:48? The girl’s sister says she was peeking towards police station, between the advertising panels of bus station when she got shot (there are gaps between panels). As this is not a live stream and there has been some cutting and editing, sound or not, isn’t definitive proof. 2) Reporter Richard Scotford notes a white projectile flew by his face (same colour as beanbag), dif colour from the balls that protestors were using. Source for 1,2 above: http://www.thestandard.com.hk/section-news.php?id=210603 3) The projectile smashed through her goggles, that kind of force is more consistent with beanbag fired from shotgun, versus small slingshot used by protestor 4) I understand a picture of goggles on ground isn’t that convincing, however in the video there is a beanbag in the goggles while the injured girl was still wearing them: https://vimeo.com/353636106 at 00:31 Please feel free to respond, I’m not saying it was necessarily police, I’m open to discussion either way :)
  • @ice006 https://youtu.be/F_nzYHOVUe8 it doesn't show what she got hit but at that time she got hit there was no sound of any beanbag shooting. Look at where she is lying down.. the police station is behind her.
  • @mooi Do you have a link to show she was hit with something else?
  • @ice006 have you seen the live tv from the news? There were no beanbag on her goggles at the time she got shot but from the still images there is.. so what does that say? Do you even know where she was standing outside the police station?
  • @mooi Because police have been shooting protestors with those beanbags she was shot with? In criminal law, one need to consider motive (who had the motive to attack protestors?), instrument used to commit crime (who has been seen using that type of weapon?) , and opportunity.
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