• @nomad822 I still watch tvb back and forth with older and recently one. I’m not sure who Peter Chan is he Sandra Ng husband? The name sounds familiar.
  • @nomad822 That's terrible. I'm sorry to hear about your SIL. She passed away really young. And left behind 3 kids too...that's awful. Your brother and their children must've been devastated. And you're right; it's also the process leading to death that is petrifying. I hear the last moments are usually very peaceful though as your brain signal your body to shut down. At least with that in mind, passing away doesn't seem so hard to swallow.
  • @coralie Death itself isn't scary .... it's the process (might be pain, prolonged illness etc) that is. My SIL is the last person you'd expect to die - she's a very healthy eater, slim, etc - looks like a sexy teen in her sundresses and tanks ... despite being mom of 3. She passed at 39 after 3 yrs of determined fighting with Cancer. The irony? It was only through breastfeeding that she realised she had breast cancer - stage 2 - that was the start of her roller-coaster/ And she had breast fed all 3 of them.
  • @kk12345 It just makes more sense that when one is older ... it's likely they will leave. BUT there are also NO guarantees in life. A life can suddenly be taken away with no warning, in many cases. Someone 30s can have cancer and leave after a roller coaster .... someone can die in an accident suddenly in the most unexpected cirumcstances, out of the blue (for eg Korea's Kim Joo-hyuk) It happens everyday. "Life sucks" whether older or not. Just enjoy it doing whatever makes you happy and makes it meaningful for you - watching dramas, writing, volunteering and helping etc. Stop living to please others, or to meet their agendas. As I grew older ... I also had to remind myself of this: Your lack of preparedness, does not constitute MY emergency.
  • @cutie777 He would look so much better, without all that excess hair. Time to leave the California Beach Boys behind and go for a short and sharp crew cut at 67. More updated trendy, and more flatteringly youthful too. It doesn't come across as arty-farty (as Peter Chan - director too) ... it just comes across as stuck in a rut. A shorter crew cut style would be so much more flattering - instant face lift. I don't watch TVB anymore but I used to enjoy Flora Chan - she was so no nonsense.
  • 4@nomad822 I have no problem with men and women getting PS, especially the folks in the public's eye. It seems to be an unwritten law for such requirements for celebs.I like Cecilia too, and if it makes her happy, more power to her to get some work done. Come on, anyone with eyes can see she had work done, good for her, she was always a naturally good looking woman, but she looks great. Once she does not look like Priscilla Presley, Iil Kim or Jocelyn Wildenstein, nothing wrong with getting it. These women who look wonderful and refreshed after PS should be happy with their looks cause wise folks with eyes know they had the work done. Why be like a certain celeb who threatens lawsuits and made an a.ss of herself on national TV. Yes Carol looks a bit run down because looking after her *perfectionist* husband is a job in itself whether he is sick or not. Add the painful, long healing delicate injury he had and that is three jobs in one. Add a small child and elderly parents and Carol should not be envied. She is a couple weeks away from turning 52. Yes, she is aging. What is amazing is Carol seems content to remain simple, which is all good, but hubby spends endless money on sheep cell injections to look good. I guess because he is the public figure and she is not.
  • @mangotango Agree. That career gives self worth, and self-esteem. It's YOUR own independent thing, your own ability. It makes you more interesting as a person, and hence also more attractive. Rather then a 'kept looked after' one - which can be the dream and aspiration of a traditional mindset woman. Even among some 20something Millenials in the China crowd. So boring to talk to someone who goes: "my husband thinks, my husband likes, my husband feels that this is ...". What do YOU think? What did you digest from the news, or what YOU saw?
  • I don't know her. But I observe people, a lot. And women who tend NOT to focus on themselves tend to be more selfless. They care for others more than themselves. Bs the (me, me and MY self care) - ie immaculate painted long manicured nails, having the perfect skin without one sun spot or blemish - it warrants a visit to the doctor to zap, and always perfectly cut hair. These are often also the types who either manipulate their men like little doting loving birds (stroking egos making him think he's King) ... Or control like the Dowager with an iron first. Or can be a trophy wife. But commonality - focus is on SELF. They would throw burgers and buns at their kids, but think nothing about spending 4 h 'saving money' - ie getting their own nails done instead of at a manicurist. Stingy with kids clothing - cheapie $5 market Hello Kitty :P but decked in latest trends or designer brands. They're worth it. SELF CARE can have an underlying trait too - selfish.
  • Puleeze she's 51! Not every female (even those in showbiz where looks matter) ages naturally gracefully. Quite normal to look like this, at 51, even among society tai-tais. Compare the better looker guys of yore (including Leon Lai) - not everyone ends up aging like chiselled Jacky Cheung too. Skin loses elasticity, metabolic rate drops - easier to put on weight (or develop double chins/eye bags, jowls) etc. Unfortunately. One cannot please everyone. Do some tweaks and PS will come up, stay au naturel and folks will say haggard. :P I just came from the Cecilia Cheung thread where she was looking gorgeous, and there PS was raised. LOL! Cecilia never had all the time to look like that either, when she was married to Nic.
  • She's basic pretty nevertheless with good features - even before PS. Was too skinny before - it's better she's curvy with more flesh. Girl doesn't always make the wisest decisions (hooking up with Nic Tse was one of those) but at least she's 'manning up' doing double duty as both dad and mom to the kids.
  • It might help NOT to tie/band back her hair so tightly daily either. Ballet and Chinese dance dancers .... they often have this hairline - reining in hair tightly would have something to do with it.
  • @nomad822 to be fair, you don't need to be around high-fashioned or affluent society to learn how to be a polite, well-spoken person. Karena was presentable even before she started dating Raymond -- that's probably what attracted him to begin with. Of course, dating Raymond extended the perks of her social circle immensely, but to say it's him who groomed her into a classy & composed woman is stretching it a bit.... @jimmyszeto - I admit I'm one of those folks who didn't like Karena much when they first started dating. But after seeing her composure and grace when answering personal questions regarding her + Raymond's relationship, I started liking her a lot more. She might be immature on a personal level (of which I don't see), but she's handled all the media attention with grace and maturity, more than I can say for other people. and let's not use someone's less glamorous background as reason for questioning her class. wealth is not associated with class.
  • Samantha Ko has always come across as an attention seeker, someone who is the 博出位 (bok chuk wai) type, who will do whatever it takes. The Me Too movement is great - it's given courage, taken momentum and dragging out all the dirty linen in Korea's patriachal system. However the downside with the Me Too movement is that it WILL also draw out all the drama queens who will bask in whatever limelight, to get their 3 min of attention whoring. And in Samantha Ko's case - imo, it's the latter.
  • @nomad822 agreed with you definitely a Michelle in the making. Up up up to a bigger fish
  • @nomad822 @sugarcane Yeh. I don't get this that people have been praising Karena for being mature just because of the way she spoke to the media. She had to portray this image in front of the media and Raymond's family after coming from a relatively lower class family. Would she have been so classy if selling roast pork with her dad? Also, apart from a few pics, we don't know anything about the new girlfriend. It's very premature to dismiss her with opinions such as 'less composed'...
  • @nomad822 Raymond's parents must have been quite worried about him as parents do after a breakup. It was particular painful since the girl has moved on to find someone much better hence rapidly introduce a woman to him Raymond ease the pain. Due to Raymond's immaturity, the parents couldn't set him up with a strong businesswoman to him.Next best thing...a lingerie model....
  • @sugarcane "The latter definitely appears more classy and composed" = in part due to her Ex bf's money. Karena was doing high-teas and lunches in Cova (where the HK society tai-tais hang out) - he funded the passport to venues for observation and thus improved grooming. 'Lessons' in taste and style when you see different echelons of society ... and money to fund a different classier wardrobe, change taste.. All of which she wouldn't have been exposed to if she didn't date a generous bf. Social climbing game. Michelle Reis is another very gd at this, and Carina Lau back then
  • "His parents arranged for the two to meet" = A lingerie model? Wow that must have been some devastating breakup for him. Karena Ng moved on to greener pastures and bigger fish. Unfortunately, he payed for her 'grooming lessons' (high teas at Cova, observing and learning how to dress-act being exposed to different strata of society) and in part her passport into bigger player fields. Michelle Reis in the making.
  • @nigel @coralie Totally AGREE. And why are folks still speculating about them or interviewing her about him? She must be crazy to want to end up with Nicholas again. From all accounts, Cecilia was single-handedly manning the fort for the kids too when he was cavorting with Faye. "At the end of the day, the most important thing is to find someone compatible to accompany you." => WORD. Plus, learning to be happy and independent by yourself first. Too many do not realize this, and expect/depend on a partner to make them happy. At the end of the day, life has no guarantees. Even in the happiest of relationships.
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