• @anon https://www.facebook.com/cheng.kaifu/videos/150565919733288/?t=82 https://youtu.be/O0xAwklHCNE Now people realized y hk protestors r using their life to fight bc they dont want to be apart of any of China's inhuman backward system. 1 country 2 system n broke the agreement into 1 country 1 system. For those who still only sees things on the surface n is in self denial, may 1 day u experience the horror from CCP yourself.
  • @luye @sarala Exactly. You couldn't have said it any better. The US health system is the worst healthcare system in the developed world. Even the US mainstream news media admits that, The irony of @sarala using that as an example to compare that to China is a joke all in itself. In China, everyone has access to healthcare regardless of you're rich or poor. The quality of care may not be the best in the world when you're poor, but if you're broke, you will receive an adequate level of care, you will recover and get healthy. That's better than not having any access to healthcare at all like in the USA when you're in poverty. In the US, $2000 for an ambulance ride when you're uninsured practically means you have no access to healthcare when you're broke. When she pointed out that you need to pay to receive medical attention when the Ambulance arrives in China. I will gladly admit that I am wrong if you can provide a credible source, but I know you can't. In this situation, sure I think it's inexcusable that the Ambulance showed up 45 minutes late, but I think it's even more inexcusable for the filming studio to not have a medical team on-site for immediate medical attention when Godfrey collapsed. People like @sarala just love to politicize everything and draw comparisons when it's unnecessary.
  • @sarala "Whether the US police did it under self defense, theres either investigation, trial and or appeal." Sure, if you're WHITE. But If you're a an ethnic minority, particularly if you're a low income African American, every year, there are dozens of police gun-related incidents, some involving death, that do not see the light of day in a judicial court trial. No official investigation, no trial. Instead, the police officers are often written up and get suspended with pay as part of the "investigation". Everything is done behind closed door. Yeah, the USA is so much better off. LOL
  • @sarala This is clearly an edited video that shows only one side of the story/perspective, there's definitely more to this video than what was shown, particularly the seconds BEFORE the incident took place. The SCMP throughout these protests have shown untruthful and distorted video clips that support their narrative, but sure if you're anti-China then I can see why you would call her a barbarian. LOL
  • @sarala not everyone in the US has guns. There are people who were killed by the police, but plenty of police get away with it & dont get convicted.
  • @sarala i believe it. china's willing to do anything to keep the public within their control and not opposed to underhanded dirty ways. a gov't that kidnaps its own citizens (FBB, Xiao Jianhua, Gui Minhai, Lee Bo, etc.) isn't one you want to have control over you.
  • @coralie yes and its still happening in China, some are hidden and some are not. Lots of protest also. Theres no freedom of press so they can easily cover it up if they do it behind closed doors. Those who said that ccp is new and give them time just dont realize theyre not improving but going backwards. Deng Xiaoping wanted Hong Kong to be a model of democracy for China. Not HK follow China in to communist. Five countries that are communist are dirt poor and cruel, so theres no way communist can be good. The reason China started having more wealth these few years is due to the return of Hong Kong as a financial gateway. Hong Kong has over 100 years of prosperity. Ccp gained wealth by selling cheap massive labor, copies western technologies and selling natural resources by damaging their envirament like black coal, etc.(other western countries not willing to damage their enviroment). Pretty soon these will run out and theyll become very poor again. https://www.facebook.com/groups/235320853568651/permalink/817279238706140/ The hong kong protest is helping to free the chinese people. No Hong Kongers are not so naive to believe US has their best interest but since US have benefits to gain from free trade so their help is great.
  • @sarala agreed. the more i read about chinese gov't (especially Tiananmen Square protests) and what the current gov't is doing, the more i get shivers. there's too much power focused on the elite ruling class of society there and no ability to revoke that power. at least in the U.S., citizens have the power to vote those people out of office. you can't do that in China.
  • some unreasonable people likes to twist the logics around and just point on one base. They just have no shame at all, such barbarians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sAAr1klEJg
  • some ppl will say the US police shoot ppl but they forgot to mention that in the US ppl have guns. Whether the US police did it under self defense, theres either investigation, trial and or appeal. Theres no standard for that in china and none in hong kong protest so far. https://t.me/guardiansofhongkong/12492
  • @msxie0714 Maybe they cant afford but the US goverment will cover it. The west like China also is full of those u mentioned, no government can control how every single person behaves. The main difference is its unintentional by the government where the ccp massacred, tortured and suppressed it citizens constantly is intentional. Just yesterday, mass protest in Guangzhou with police being violent. The government collects taxes from its people and is supposed to protect them not abuse them. I have nothing against china personally just dislike how the ccp party governs. Ppl should be able to choose its party like the US, democratic, republican or conservative not just stuck with one totalitarian party.
  • @sarala the average american can't afford a $300 ambulance bill and will go bankrupt after a hospital stay if uninsured. too bad the sophisticated west is also full of opoid addicts, homeless people and the mentally ill with guns. otherwise, it's utopia.
  • @sarala "now u know how much more sophisticated the west is compared to China" China ain't perfect, but no country is. There are many areas in the West where they are backward compared to China. Don't even get me started. "It took the ambulance 45 minutes" Maybe they were filming in a remote area? Maybe the film crew were incompetent? Maybe they took a while to call for help? I am just throwing guesses here. There are many possibilities. Unless you were there, you wouldn't know why either. "one needs to pay first before they save anyone" This is hard to believe. Show me some proof. "Tell me who really wants to be in communist china with its backward system." The fact that you call China a communist country and a backward country shows you're ignorant and a troll. Save your breath.
  • now u know how much more sophisticated the west is compared to China. It took the ambulance 45 minutes to arrive and one needs to pay first before they save anyone. Tell me who really wants to be in communist china with its backward system. He would probably be alive if he werent in china.
  • @anon now u know how much more sophisticated the west is compared to China. It took the ambulance 45 minutes to arrive and one needs to pay first before they save anyone. Tell me who really wants to be in communist china with its backward system.
  • @sarala yup, look at Fan Bing Bing case. As much as I don’t like her, but they can totally make her vanish if they want to. Also China is always playing the long game. Whatever they initially doing isn’t bad, as long as it’s in place, so later on, they can be stricter and stricter, to the point of suffocation. Just look at the silly censorship in Cdrama and you see how much freedom they have! But people who live in China is so blinded by their patriotism to see the other side, just like the saying the frog live in the bottom of the well, can only see a small sky
  • @sarala "Look at the end of this video where the guy screams, how embarrassing https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=C24ozlIP0kc&app=desktop" HAHAHA! Ever heard of video-edited misleading videos? "These young people are the future of China. Yet they don’t care about human rights and freedom. All they know is patriotism. I hope you don’t blindly be like them. The reason Communist China suppress religion is bc they want to control people’s mind, easier to brainwash them and make them into slaves." Here are some facts for you to learn so I can end this conversation and put all the conspiracy theories to rest. According to the CATO institute's Human Freedom Index of 2018. HUMAN FREEDOM INDEX (MOST FREE COUNTRY/SAR): Ranked 3rd: Hong Kong Ranked 17th: USA MOST ECONOMIC FREEDOM: Ranked 1st: Hong Kong Ranked 6th: United States Based on FACTS, Hong Kong has more human rights and economic freedom than the USA, so the fact that Uncle Sam running his mouth preaching about the lack of democracy and human rights in HK is bogus. He should focus on their own country and fix their own problems first instead of budding their nose into other people's business. You have no idea what you're even talking about using "facts" from what you've learned from the evening news. How embarrassing. REF: https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/human-freedom-index-files/human-freedom-index-2018-revised.pdf
  • @sarala You are totally right. That is why when the Extradition Bill was to be passed, Carrie Lam could not even get the support of: 1) Law Society of Hong Kong 2) Business Associations in Hong Kong Wouldn't you be surprised that the above two professional organizations did not support the passing of the Bill? There must be some good reasons for them for not supporting the passing.
  • @littlefish I cant agree more and Im glad you can see beyond the surface
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