• @littlefish Of course it angers me when there is no proof. "Do I need to fact check? No" This sentence, you just claimed you want a rumor to spread without proof. This story isn't about you so it doesn't struck your nerve, but if somebody made up an untrue story like this about you at your workplace or area around you (unless you don't work or lives in a cave), how would you feel? Worst is, in the fake story, you did not even do anything wrong inside the fake story. When it involves you, you think that's right? You keep calling the fans crazy fans here, so revealing the truth is wrong? Spreading unreliable news is right? Fans and anybody has the right to be angry over this because antis are making up lies to harm somebody. Antis have the right to be angry when they started a fire? Ok, it's only a fake story so I don't care. What you think you will do in the situation doesn't mean it's what XZ have not done, he could do anything in private nobody knows. And what I think I will do does mean it's what XZ had done, he could done the same things in private. This is just going to be me. If my so call acquaintance gave me a present. Even when she doesn't know who reported her, she dares to point out that it was my fans who reported her so it will involve me in it (she should try her best to message me). Just go to the post and say, "It's me, I gave you the present, please message me bc something happened" Just like that, easy! If I were him, I will be very clear that it isn't my fault and I have no guilt. This person violated work policy, she knows I knew nothing, if she dares to think she's innocent, I'm much more innocent. But she attempts to make me look guilty in front of the whole world, she also tries to involve me and my fans in it altogether, only for her own sake. I have no guilt when I did nothing wrong, but I will be kind enough and absolutely send her money only because I understand she got into a desperate situation. I'm not helping out of guilt (there is none) but I will help out of kindness. If I'm not kind enough, I still don't owe her anyway. What have she gotten me only? Problems that I don't know if it was created intentional or accidental, but being kind, of course I will help her because there is a so-call very low probable that this was an accident. Accidents can absolutely happen under purposely violating policy. No matter how low the probable, I'll have the bigger mind. :)
  • @yoyo lol did I struck your nerves? 1 - again you said it isn’t true, who are you to make me believe you? (Repeatedly said it isn’t true doesn’t make the story true, I’m sorry xD) 2 - yes, anyone can report her, however, a commoner would not care unless he or she has a vendetta against her, and since she’s basically a nobody, it’s highly unlikely. However, XZ’s crazy fans have been known to be crazy, and reporting and destroy a CP fan is a common thing the single fans do. So the high probable one is more believable. 3 - as I mentioned I’m a passerby, I’m allowed to change my PoV based on the information I get. Do I need to fact check? No, because I’m not his fans or antifans to bother, after reading comments for a while, I would know what information is out there. I would then hear ppl argument to see which info is misinformed and which is right. You are basically jumping up and down wanting ppl to apologise to your idol when they form an opinion yet said idol doesn’t bother to set the record straight :) Back to my other statements where I said I also read his news on other site, latest article mentioned there’s a rumour of a depressed artist with a nickname X, however as much as the article is like hope the artist get better so the fans aren’t worried. Said article also basically said the dude didn’t say anything to the public. In this article‘a comment section, one person claimed he did address the issue with AO3, just no one public it, yet articles after articles, it keeps saying he didn’t. “ If anyone thinks fans are annoying for making reports, just don’t be so bias to think violating rules isn’t annoying too. She was wrong in the first place, and second place” - 2 wrongs don’t make a right. What happened between her and XZ should be between her and XZ, not the fans’ business. Idk about you but say my best friend thinks I’ve been harassed by 1 person gives me 1 gift when I was oversea, and while assuring her I’m not being harassed, and she then go ahead without my permission and report such person to their workplace, I would rethink about her being my friend/acquaintance. Who do you think is in the wrong here? Stop trying to give fans excuses, the fans didn’t even bother admitted they were wrong even once and you want ppl to say sorry if they form a wrong opinion on you guys when evidences prove the contrary?
  • @littlefish, you were too quick to judge he did bad things when there was no proof, it made you sound like an anti-fan. But if you are claiming you are not an anti, meaning you just didn't notice the huge flaws of all those rumors. Admitting yourself wrong shouldn't hurt too much? Slandering a person and hurt their reputation without evidence isn't showing an opinion, but commiting a crime. Continuing to call people crazy fans when they are revealing the truth is also wrong. The story of the waitress getting fired was such a big fat lie. First, the story isn't true. Second, if it's true, he was a client in the hotel and was happy when receiving a gift so he showed it off, not knowing the waitress violated a policy. She could have kept quiet to herself, but she boasted when he made the post. Since she made everyone know it was her gift, it could been anyone who reported her, there are too many people who know what she did. What proof does she have to say it was fans reporting her? Even if it was fans who reported her, she DID do something wrong in the first place, if she was clean, would she be fired? If anyone thinks fans are annoying for making reports, just don't be so bias to think violating rules isn't annoying too. She was wrong in the first place, and second place. Worst of all, the story isn't true that's why 227 lies are so fat. Pretend if it's a true story, it's still not his fault in the fake story, but antis are saying it better be his fault in it. And the story was totally made up, and it still better be his fault too. Wow, just wow!
  • @msxie0714 Haha they try that? Their government shut down those platforms, they were crying big and loud against what their government did to them and they still have the face to use their government against others? They are mess up! Sounds like they actually don't care about the platform, what they care is smearing Xiao Zhan, the platform is only the tool they are using to smear him. Don't fall for it.
  • @yoyo These 'innocent' 227s are sneaky, manipulative and just evil. Some of them are unsuccessfully using bogeyman (China government) scare tactics to silence non-Chinese international fans from supporting XZ. They continue to smear his true fans in China hoping to manipulate public opinion against them. Weakening his entire fanbase and isolation of XZ is their goal in their twisted vision of justice.
  • @sehseh It's really funny how some people here have the audacity to make so much lies. "Break into the door, saw naked woman and reported her" WTF? The truth was totally the opposite. More like it was "Lured fan into the room, stripped off their idol naked and won't allow them to make a report" Nobody can prove 100% the fans made the report, but if the fans made the report, they already did the right thing. But fans still get attacked as the evil group. When it was the 227 group that was the mastermind behind it all. He's not suing anybody because those rumors are way too many to count. These false accusations here are vicious enough for him to pursue legal actions. Maybe he's staying quiet now so he can gather all the proof, once he got enough, boom! Surprised!
  • WOW! In conclusion, 227 are far worse than Xiao Zhan's crazy fans. Spreading false rumors one after another. Some people here should be embarrassed, spreading LIES more than 3 times already. Nothing they say from now on is going to be trustworthy. I won't be surprised if 227 disguised themselves as crazy fans, reported all those platforms, and then pretended to be some innocent 227 who get cursed at. Everything could be created by them from start to finish.
  • @yoyo Hi, I don't say he owes me anything. AO3 is only prohibited to access in China, in other places of the world, it is safe and works normally. So why you say of that? AO3 is only a platform and it has disclaimers. Everyone who read the fanfic will have to see the disclaimer first. Talking back about the fanfiction that caused to the report. It has been posted only on AO3, not on weibo or any other platform. It has the disclaimer and tag for 18+ and trap. Basically, the author has done all the disclaimer and prevent about the content. It is very normal on fanfic world for long ago. It isn't that Xiao Zhan is the only one that have been put into a fanfic with different character to himself. Basically, it is nothing different to a role play. Moreover, the author even doesn't use his real name but a similar nick name to his character. The fans went to AO3, read the disclaimer and reported. It is hard to say that it is the fault of the author because she didn't invite anyone amongst the fans to read or to promote it on weibo or else where. Someone in 227 once said, the fans of Xiao Zhan were behaved like this: "They broke the door of a house, seeing a nude girl in that house behind the door and report her." For the Thai case, if the fans don't report her, would she have been fired? And may you let me know what can be her fault? He knew it because he deleted the pictures on his weibo and support his fans on that. I'm not sure if there was only China fans or Thai fans join that incident, it is only to say that his fans need to have a lesson to behave better in the future. It is also a lesson to other fandoms who may do the same. It is my opinion.
  • @alluka, you really sound like you think Xiao Zhan owes you so much. His fans did those things, so what? Is this so new? Which idol's fans would not go crazy when others provoke them? If A03 is clean enough, when fans report, only the fanfic will get deleted but the entire site went down, so that means A03 itself has problems. Before the incident even happened, A03 was already having issues prior to that. Nobody knows for sure if the fans are real, or fake fans paid by competitors. You are just too sure they got to be his fans without any valid proof. If they really are his fans, it is still just the fans fault. It doesn't matter if he say anything or not. If he says something, what is it gonna be? Just repetitive things you said? And after saying something, what he said will only get judged. About the waitress there is only one side of the story. He never talked about what happened so nobody knows the truth. He is so rich it will not be surprising if he gave her money in secret, maybe they learned their lessons and both learned to shut up and not make public moves again. If the hotel fires her that means she did bended the rules, it's kind of his fault she got find out, but it's also possible he isn't aware of the rules she's supposed to follow. Maybe he doesn't speak Thai and had no idea what happened. The story could be anything. I thought only Chinese fans on Weibo are crazy. Are the Thai fans also crazy participants on Weibo? They sound just as crazy, are they fluent in Chinese and can type in Chinese? How believable is it, that ALL Xiao Zhan's fans worldwide are disgusting? C-fans and T-fans are that horrible, maybe Korea and the U.S. are all next. Sounds really trusting?
  • She sang it well. Of course it's not going to be like Jane Zhang and Faye Wong, as if how many people on earth are going to be that good? Even Zhang Bichen is not as good as them. LYF voice is naturally good and smooth, even when she's only casually speaking it already sounds nice. This sounds the same like when she sang on reality show without any music. She gets picked on because she's got that face and all those talents, even before her unpopular opinions came out people have always been picking on her.
  • @yoyo The author is his fan so she wrote the fanfiction for her favourite artists. It is very different to using Xiao Zhan's popularity. And she wrote it for non-business purpose. Fanfiction always exist hand in hand with real artists/real movies/real shows. It is a common sense that everyone know. Nobody want to touch that field because it is a way to promote the artists and keep the fame of the artists continues after the movies/drama/shows ends. So this time, Xiao Zhan's fans are stupid enough to touch the barrier and it was why all other fandoms get mad of them. Btw, it isn't right that "Whatever he endorses, others won’t be able to endorse anymore". To say, he actually can't sell as many as the other young famous artists such as Kris Wu or TFBoys or even Wang Yi Bo who was in same series with him. In fact, he doesn't have big brands on his hand, too. The best he can have as an ambassador was Tide and some small brands. He only does endorsement for a line of products (not all the products) for Estee Lauder or Olay. If you check for the amount, his fans are not able to afford big brands at all. Perhaps most of them are kids hence they are childish enough to report AO3.
  • @dramas4me Agree completely! I think people who hate Xiao Zhan are pretending to say they hate his fan thus hate him to have an excuse. He is too popular. Whatever he endorses, others won't be able to endorse anymore. Yes it is crazy fans behind it, but not him. They should be angry at his fans ofc. But being angry at him when he has no control is wrong. But it's also easy that he gains competitors and rivals everywhere so I won't quite believe people are that blind to hate him for things he didn't do too. No matter how far the fan fiction gone, they are only fanfic. Will they get the chance to become monetized and turned into real TV shows? The fans should ignore, maybe they are right that the author is bad but it's not true that the story will have any affect Xiao Zhan at all. If the author's story is truly good, he will not need to depend on Xiao Zhan's popularity. He's just using Xiao Zhan's image for his character so people will read his story. He couldn't rely completely on the story itself. Fans didn't have to care about such person.
  • @littlefish Aside from Yu Zheng's Yanxi Palace, nothing else was worthy to be long. Although I liked the show they could still cut it 10-20 episodes shorter, some parts are draggy too. Minglan was boring as hell though, but the fans wanted that drama to be even longer. It's crazy that some fans really do want these long dramas with 90% boring fillers. I'm glad there's a rule now to regulate.
  • Best news ever. Oh Gah! Princess Pearl was only 24 episodes?? I used to thought that was one of the longest series ever! Lol, that's cuz I watched the entire thing on VHS without skipping a single minute. Always wondered how I survived that as a child. That's because it was only 24 episodes. Also, it was actually not draggy at all after seeing how terrible dramas today are.
  • What a dumb way to accuse her of plastic surgery. But almost all actresses today did plastic surgery so I don't care. It is extremely hard to find a natural actress now. They can deny it all they want too, I don't care, their job doesn't allow them to admit those information. At least Yang Mi has always been very polite about this topic, she is respectful towards others who done it.
  • Comparing the non degree veteran actors such as Chow Yun Fat with today's idols is too disrespectful. Older actors really had to have the skills unlike these soft skin idols today. In the past all actors do their own stunts. Make-up is not the number 1 priority. There was also no CGI. And they cannot hire water army on the internet to create an illusion that they are popular. People during Chow Yun Fat's time, they worked twice or thrice harder. Idols today got it too easy, it doesn't even matter where they come from and what skills they have, all they need to do is make sure they look 15 even if they're 40.
  • @yoyo even if this is fault, we all know that their wedding will have to be on some grand day lol, because they are really that attention seeking
  • @myden26 Giving up on these 2 already. So many false alerts. First, fans said it will be on ZLY's birthday, then the New Years, and now Valentine. Even the child's birth date was a holiday too Hahaha.
  • There are a few better qualities about Michelle. The most obvious is her face didn't go through plastic surgery.
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