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@janet72 good for Edwin for praising his GF. Can't let Motor Mouth do all the talking. There are other couples in love too, lol.
@bearbear yep. I can’t respect people who cheat and I’m surprised they even lasted this long. They are also one of those wealthy couples who choose to have children in the west.
@littlefish haha I was amused by her comment as well. I'm quite impressed with your detail observation on the technical skills of the dancers. My judgement is just simply based on how I feel to the vibe, the art and the capability to deliver the message from the dancers that touches my inner feeling. It is hard to explain but let's just agree on our differences. I've watched pretty much all the Hollywood dance shows like SYTYCD, DWTS, America's Best Dance Crew (2008 - 2012) one of the best dance shows ever. I can see the similar concepts in many Asian Dance shows nowadays. It looks like Hollywood has been there and done that. As for Galen Hooks, if you are into Kpop dance styles then you won't like her choreography though. She has worked with those megastars like JB, Britney Spears, Usher, Rihanna...
@wm2017 Actresses like Jessica Hsuan and Michelle Yip are very very average looking, when I first saw them I did not really understand why they would be the main leads. But they were casted in such good projects that you would only focus on their characters and not how beautiful they were. They can play Mary Sue a thousand times without problem because the storylines will always be interesting and fun. Today, whoever plays Mary Sue for the 2nd time will get bombed for being stuck with Mary Sue roles FOREVER and having no skills in any other things, etc. blah blah blah... I don't know if acting can be something to blame on, if Jessica and Michelle's dramas were so good in the past then how come their new ones would suck-suck so much? It's not a deal of they cannot act, so "acting" is not to blame but the "story" is the main problem. Modern shows are slow and plots are non existing. I don't care if these actors are getting better makeup, more colorful, more high technology with imaginative backdrops, etc. Even Jessica and Michelle fell from their heights now too bc these projects are getting very low quality from the overuse of technology and non creative storytelling skills. These days when a storyline finally happen to exist, they are just not even interesting at all. And depending entirely if the actors are eye-candy enough is only based on a very personal level of tastes. So, actors today are pushed to a total corner of plastic surgery because they will NEVER ever be able to become the next Jessica Hsuan and Michelle Yip with their natural self anymore. You MIGHT only be the successful star of a terrible drama if you look good enough to hook people in, or look ugly and also with a bad storyline so you can be the scapegoat and main source of failure in a bad story-telling drama. You can be natural to get yell by viewers because they don't appreciate it, or be plastic and also get lots of hate by viewers, or be smart and be plastic but deny that you are one. It is very unfair to only point at ABB as the only one, as there are others too. I'm starting to doubt anybody with all the features of pointy chins, baggy eyes, eyes bigger than normal sizes, absolute flawless skin, pointy nose, extremely high straight nose bridge, etc. So, anyone with average looks I would give them +1 for not giving in to plastic surgery. And also +1 to who admit themselves openly. It is unfair to doubt so many good looking people, but of course when somebody filmed with extremely light make up to no make up at all like Liu yifei and Liu shishi then there is no question about plastic at all. Viewers have very good eyes at times too.
Edwin is very sweet to praise his gf.
I remember Sunny Du from the drama 'Queen of SOP'...she has a very elegant look.
@littlefish Earlier, the person people most wanted for consideration was ZLY together with LGX The most popular XLN is still Carman Lee despite that she lacked the teenager look.
@wm2017 lol I agree Michelle is second rate beauty for period. But in modern, she does look quite cute. Not goddess, but sufficient for being lead in modern. I don’t even like her but saw a few mv of her modern series
@davy uhm I don’t think it’s copy as such. It has more to do with the Chinese directors have their certain ways. They would be like act like this, act like that? That’s why the childish drama, with overly childish actress, acts the same exaggerated ways. Can you name what move of LYF that ppl copy?
@davy uhm I was talking about white clothing lol but I agree with you. May I ask why we bring ZLY in here lol? I’m not her fan, just wondering. XD did someone say to cast ZLY as XLN? Anyway, I agree ZLY is a bit overrated, and I also agree that Tong Liya is always getting the short end of the stick, however the new nirvana in fire 2 should help her a lot, no? While Tong Liya is very beautiful, I think her downfall is that she looks mature, young audience can’t deal with mature look lol, that’s why ZLY is great as she’s 30+? And can still look like 24+ only
@bearbear You are so right! Michelle Chen if not for that movie she would have forever stay in second or third line actress. She has such an average face and even more of an average actress but somehow made her a 'godess' sttaus hahha from that Taiwanese movie. That's why luck is really a big factor in an actor/actresses life. Weird even...
Michelle Chen probably lowers the bar of XLN and now any actresses think they can be one. Eleanor should remain in modern drama.
Is this the pair who was involved with each other while he was still married with kid?
@willister They actually both look horrible...lol...not just the guy..major major photoshopped gone wrong. haha
@coralie No clue who they are but cute hubby. :D
How many of these remakes since 1983 ... that's the only one i saw, the rest i am not interested. Are there no other scripts or writers? Am i missing something?
@funnlim I don't understand why people would complain LYF and YM acting, all I see is so many actresses copying their acting. The way they smile, turn, look at things, all copied by too many to name.
@littlefish XLN do not have to act too much because she is emotionless, she is very quiet (as long as it's not stern angry quiet). The "looks" will be most important of course because I am too sure nobody can fight like LYF, so of course the look will be very important. It's not like anybody can "act" at all these days either, no good actresses at all. Tong Liya is actually really good at acting, but always overlooked. She is very very pretty too, her dancing skills is top notched and her fighting skills was decent in the Palace drama. Everyone is by passing her like crazy. Moreover, Tong Liya is natural for sure. Of course Eleanor is really good compared to ZLY who everybody keeps pushing for, but her acting is not on par while her looks is all 90% consist of eyes only with a tiny mouth, and also very bad fighting skill. Not like I am looking forward to a very good Condor Hero movie/drama, all films these days are disappointing and my expecations are not high but still...ZLY makes it sound worse. Eleanor is at least natural and didn't cut her nose or face. "CLEAN" skin is what we need, like Carman Lee who is natural looking, not super duper white but decent white. I cannot stand those plastic Snowy white skin (they are not even creamy but white-white extra white) such as ZLY, ABB, DLRB, GLNZ, etc. The description of XLN in the novel is that she is "white" but the actresses above skin are very exaggerated. Even worse when there are smoothing effect. They need to tone it down with some dark makeup.
@olivegarden haha that’s funny, love your sister comment xD So Victoria’s and William’s are both puppet theme? Rewatch it again, seems somehow I miss a bit of the beginning part, however, the choreography is a bit everywhere. There are parts that show they control the other person’s actions like a puppet, however, they then break out and do break dance, and dance individually rather than together. There is a disjoint and disconnect, I just don’t feel it. I can get she follows the theme I was a puppet then I become a puppeteer, however it just felt messy. And William’s stiff shoulder and hands just made it even more uncomfortable to watch? While not understanding the theme might impact your judgement on the dance piece, there are other factors apart from the story telling, like the chemistry the partner, how well it is danced and how well it’s acted, whether it draws you in as it progresses, etc. just based on my first watch I would rank it last, that’s all :) I can’t say I remember what the theme of jackson’s Dance is, however, he has the most charisma while dancing, and it shines through. He was the only one out of the 4 that my eyes glue to him instead of his partner, whereas it’s 50/50 for Victoria and her partner and the girl for Lu Han, and my eyes was on William for a wrong reason to cringe lol. I can’t say I’m into that much dance stuff, I only watch SYTYCD :) and I don’t know Galen Hooks, and the thing about choreography is she also needs to cater to his ability? So while she might be talented, she might have to dump it down a lot? Unlike the girl who is with Lu Han, who tried to push it.
@jayne hahahaha or they saw the reaction and retract their casting xD
@msxie0714 yea, I second snoppy’s opinion. Pretty face doesn’t mean XLN, has to be the cold icy type, that looks stunning in white. Angelababy, ignore her meh acting, doesn’t have that cold quality to her beauty, her beauty is more princess type. And in general and I, she demonstrated she can’t do icy cold >_>
Don’t believe in Feng Shui. Skip!
Eva Huang is so pretty! I don't know how I feel about the pictorial, though, especially for an anniversary themed-pictorial. Too glossy and sterile for me to enjoy on a personal level. Abstractedly, I can appreciate her beauty in these. I just don't feel the love.
Casting for Little Dragon Girl is not finalized yet. Just saw the news on Sina this morning. Updated the article with the following: On March 23, the studio producing Return of the Condor Heroes was reached for comment. The representative stated that the casting of Little Dragon Girl has not been finalized. “The character, Little Dragon Girl, is highly attractive to everyone. Various Internet rumors circulated earlier regarding the casting. Actually, we are still doing casting calls and don’t know which actress will portray this role yet.”
@jayne I never saw Idy Chan's version, so can't comment on it. But I'll take your word for it
@olivegarden The above is just TVB's wish list for "Triumph in the Skies 2020". If they want someone like Yang Mi, it may only be a guest starring role where she appears in a few episodes. Yang Mi is so busy with her own productions and she certainly doesn't need "Triumph" to boost her family any more. But they will balance the budget with mix of Mainland and Hong Kong stars.
@coralie I think Eleanor Lee's face suits modern dramas well too. Her acting in "Tribes and Empires: Storm of Prophecy" was stiff; don't really have confidence in her pulling off the role of Little Dragon Girl. Looks wise, I also think Carman Lee is the most beautiful. She looks picture perfect with Louis Koo, but at most their acting chemistry was just mediocre together. Acting wise, I like Idy Chan, who portrayed Little Dragon Girl's vulnerable side better.
@jayne I didn't know she had PS =O. I thought she was all natural, silly me -_-.
@tiffany Yeah I agree with you. LYF isn't an ice beauty. I think Carmen's acting is better.
@littlefish lol, I think they both also grew up in similar circumstances. strict mothers, protected and sheltered childhoods. maybe some of that rubbed off on them in acting. they stick with what's boring and safe and don't venture very far with their acting because they're not pushed to.
@kk12345 yep, which is why I say they're not in it for the right reasons.
This Eleanor girl's facial features are too "doughy" to play the role of the ethereal, mature & icy Little Dragon Girl. Similar to Michelle Chen - total miscast. This girl's been getting roles after roles in big productions, even though her acting is okay at best and her facial features average. Me thinks her parents are helping her pull some ropes in the ebiz so she can participate in these grand dramas and get lead roles one after another. Without those opportunities, I doubt she has a leg to stand on. She's better off doing modern dramas - her face doesn't fit these beautiful roles they keep pushing on her for ancient dramas (and subsequently, on us as the audience.) My fav Little Dragon Girl to date is Carmen Lee. LYF actually fit the 'austere & icy' look of Dragon Girl well, but that's because she's a block face to begin with and once she starts acting, you can tell she doesn't have the gravitas to pull the role off.
they need to hire someone else to make the trailer. it doesn't make me want want to watch the movie.
@msxie0714 lol....you must be kidding...not everybody with pretty looks can be Little Dragon Girl...especially Angelababy.
@llwy12 yea. I feel like tvb is too busy nursing their old good times and forget how to produce series with relevant plots and deserving actors. They always promote their favorite ones and ignore 'the real' actors. Like why did it take long time for Mandy Wong to be a lead??? And I had to force myself to watch a great series which I don't wanna miss it bcoz of the plot but on the other hand I had to endure the bad cast. Good news that today I don't have to do anything since everything from Tvb is really bad. Like u said, Tvb did use that nasty way to war and beauty 2. And after that came out, audiences were so disappointed. Well, Tvb got what they deserved now, a mess....
Hopefully the movie will be nice.
Hopefully the movie will be nice to watch.
Maybe they will meet again once more.
@coralie Everyone has different tastes or that it could be because the guy is rich. Money is the most important.
@peachyogurt I loved him in A Taste of Life; he was so cute! But I only actually found him good looking circa 2004 when The last Breakthrough was aired (after his first nose job?). Louis was so handsome in the 90s (I liked him better in his pale-faced days). I think a few wrinkles wouldn't have affected his looks much. I reckon he's had a face lift and can't smile properly anymore.
@littlefish If some of you are only judging on looks only, then Angelababy should fit the bill.
@jayne Well, even with this huge budget I still don't think they have enough to cast the whole bunch of Mainland actors though. I read an article from my home country, AB's salary is already at 100 plus million RMB per drama and William is at 90 million RMB. The two alone already take up the whole budget, not to mention Yang Mi and Dil... Anyway, you are so right, this drama mainly caters to Mainland viewers. TVB does not care if Hong Kong viewers reject it or not. All for the big fish.
Patrick Tam! Love him. He's great in any character.
@littlefish "I don’t get the appeal of Lu Han, his beauty just meh to me"... oh yes, I totally agree with you on this one. I heard so much about him so I searched him up and showed my sister his picture on screen and she was like "hey, this GIRL looks like young Anita Yuen (Chilam's wife) but not in the good way"...OK, I rest my case. As for William's dance number, I really love it indeed. It was contemporary dance with "puppet dance" theme. It was soft and passionate at first then powerful but still provocative later on. Contemporary dance is a story telling dance. If you get it then it's a hit, if not then it's just meh. This kind of dance is quite popular in US, but not other part of world yet... Therefore, I really applause William for taking this risk. Also, I'm very into contemporary dance so I'm bias. Btw, Galen Hooks is a very talented and well known choreographer in Hollywood.
Mat seems like a very humble and nice guy.
@anoninhk Raymond Lam has always been very captivating onscreen. I remembered watching him in "Taste of Love," and thought he was very good looking. I'm not sure why he did the plastic surgery. As for Louis Koo, I wonder what he would look like if he didn't get work done on his face. I think it's okay to age with a few wrinkles; at least it looks natural, kind of like Liam Neeson. Yes I agree, Jessica looks great!
@jimmyszeto did they have scenes together? If not, they won’t meet?
@coralie I agree with you, she bores me to dead >_< same goes with LYF.
@littlefish Agree! I've always wanted him to date Jessica but unfortunately, they've both said they're not each other's type.
Most convincing Condor Heroes couple ever (looks wise) in my opinion (although Louis' acting was rubbish at the time)
I found him better looking 3-4 years down the line, but looks terrible now. Sunken cheeks, long face and sticking out ears. That hair style looks ridiculous on him too. Louis sadly looks very plastic and barely recognisable from his ASITP days. Jessica looks great in the photo though.
@funnlim LYF looked young. Younger than YG. Odd pairing. She also is not an ice beauty.
Louis Koo looks waxy as fk
@funnlim I'm with @littlefish. Carmen Lee was my idea of a perfect Dragon Girl. She didn't look a teen but was very beautiful and otherworldly. Crystal was pretty but I thought her massive hair and costumes swamped her.
Anyone find it funny that the first time they meet again was 16yrs later xD??? I would laugh if they re-enact the meeting scene on the plane XD Seriously Louis, date Jessica or carman :) or just come out, dc lol, just have a family and be happy :) not saying he isn’t happy, just wish to see him happier? Hey if Aaron and Leo can be father at 40-50+, there is still hope for Louis :)
@funnlim HK/China heck even pan Asia films are nowhere near the quality and imagination of Hollywood when it comes to sci-fi flicks. The special effects are simply not there. Case in point? The Internal Affairs web series whilst not a major production, it would probably be a lot higher than a regular TVB series. Watch the scene with Damien Lau and his daughter witnessing her mum in the car bombing scene. The overlay with computer special effects is ridiculously obvious.
@littlefish isn't dragon girl supposed to be very young? Still liu yifei. She was stunning in her first scene and then of course she had to act.
@wm2017 sadly it is lol
@funnlim do you think Carmen Lee not perfect? I say both Liu Yifei and Carmen are pretty perfect in term of look, but Carmen’s acting is much better.
Haha the irony! Aaron Kwok played Lui Lok's son in Lee Rock II. Now he is playing Lui Lok himself!
Say all you want about Liu Yifei, looks wise she was the perfect Dragon Girl. Acting wise... well... never mind. This is like the what? how many adaptations in like 5 years? I think they are determined to get it right so they will make 1 every year until they find the best combo. Looks wise, sorry, I don't think Eleanor cuts it. so even if her acting's smashing, well, wait for it, 6 months later YET another adaptation.
It's always Pandora when it comes to aliens. Plot sounds atypical hollywood production BUT I will watch it if the effects anything on par. However, it says it stars big stars. From the list I will say it stars the same actors on the HK film list, all over again except Daniel Wu is busy elsewhere.
@alicesky Yup…agreed! The other part that ticked me off was the way TVB took full advantage of audiences’ nostalgia for the original installment to hype the sequel but then proceeded to pull the rug out from under them. I remember prior to Triumph 2 airing, TVB kept looping a promo clip that featured Francis’ character (in his pilot uniform) and also the iconic theme song by Eason Chan from the first installment, leading many people to believe that they were going to use the same theme song for the second installment (which, if they were paying any attention to the discussions online, was what most audiences wanted them to do, since that theme song was so closely associated with the series – plus it’s not like they hadn’t used the same theme song before with other sequels) -- but then when the sequel aired, that was totally not the case, as they ended up using a brand new song sung by veteran singer George Lam. At the time, I recall seeing some backlash online at TVB’s “bait and switch” tactic but the sad thing was that there was also a lot of “hate” directed at George and also at the song’s writer Cheng Kwok Kong, which was obviously misguided and uncalled for. TVB of course didn’t explain or apologize and just let things fester, leaving others to take the hit for their stupidities as usual. It might seem like a small thing to some, but when stuff like this happens over and over again, it adds up (especially in light of everything else that goes on with the shoddy productions, internal politics, etc. etc.) -- to me it speaks to the ethics of the company and makes me lose more and more respect for them…. I am sincerely hoping that whatever ends up happening with the third installment, they don’t try to pull a fast one on the audiences again, though I doubt it since it IS TVB after all. Even if Francis doesn’t end up filming this, watch them still “use” Francis to promote the series somehow….
@littlefish She looks weird especially that nose? haha lol
@cutie777 Lol...haha well, I always remember her as xie jing---snake woman? hahaha I never bother remembering her full name. I never really like her acting or anything I kind of think she's overrated but hey what do I know. lol
Don’t know how good Lu Han meant to be at dancing, but through the clip, she’s outdance him by miles. She has more swag, more character, and she get down low. Lu Han while he does do a decent job, he did not go low enough, lacking the swag, the pop and lack in character. I don’t get the appeal of Lu Han, his beauty just meh to me. Victoria’s dance concept is cute, and there is good bits about them, however there are too many poses, and in general very soft. William’s dance is a hot mess >_< trying to be cool and showing off does not mean good dancing. They need to get the choreography right first, you will look cool if the choreography is decent and dance well. Jackson is best dancer out of them all. He goes low, he has swag, his dance was fun, he shows a lot of character. However, his dance is not as complex as Lu Han. So Lu Han’s dance is still the best so far, he was luck to have her choreograph and dance with him. For a coach, I would pick Jackson lol.
@jayne I remember those scenes (it was more than one scene actually) but that’s probably because I’ve watched the series multiple times over the past few decades (which is the case with most of the series from the 80s/early 90s for me). I agree that Lawrence was one of the more memorable younger villains from those days, though I also watched plenty of his series from back then where he was the “good guy” as well so there was enough balance there for me to be able to accept him in subsequent “good guy” roles. With that said though, I also wasn’t too convinced with his character in Healing Hands, but that was mostly because the character was written in a way that was “too perfect” and unrealistic, plus I wasn’t fond of the Healing Hands franchise as a whole so that probably had something to do with it too, lol.
Hahahaha I like the cheecky photo that show his face and her belly xD
Uhm -.- logic? Stuff happens inside the tomb, no one knows but YG and XLN, how the eff can GX know anything.... or is this twist more like: the beginning scene, GX, then 20 yrs ago, and normal POV again >_> that’s not a twist, that’s pretending to be a twist and then just lengthen the drama for GX and YG’s shippers? It sounds rubbish >_> they need to stop with the remaking. Where is the ban law when you need them lol
@davy erh I’m sorry but I do not find her pretty >_> not in the period costume picture. No comment on her modern look, as I tend to find most are generic until they hit that one character that they perform well for me to think they super pretty. I’m gonna sound mean by saying sup with Chinese producers and casting ugly duckling in the role of XLN >_> I’m sorry but I grew up watching many beautiful women take this role that the recent 2, this and Michelle one really making sure I don’t watch any of them >_>
@lewismcchan Yea, exactly. Most of us feel the same way. But unfortunately TVB (and the production studios in general) don’t feel that way. They assume they know what audiences want when they really don’t or they ask people who they know think like them and/or will tell them what they want to hear and then broad-stroke it to “justify” that is what all audiences want (which, by the way, is exactly what producer Lau Ka Ho did and that’s why we got the disaster that was Heart and Greed). Sometimes, it also has to do with the pressure from business sponsors and/or investors that they partner up with who can have significant influence on the direction a production goes in or even if the project gets off the ground in the first place (Brother’s Keeper 2 is the ultimate example of this – that was another series that didn’t have to happen, but because of obligations to the bakery that sponsored the first installment, they not only had to push out a second installment, they also had to make sure the script was written in a way that catered to that sponsor, which is why that series ended up sucking so badly in terms of script). At this point, I’m not sure which scenario Triumph 3 falls into, since we weren’t told the reason behind the decision to make yet another installment, but regardless, I have zero confidence that TVB is going to get things right this time either. The other element to keep in mind too is that this is a co-production with Tencent and they are the ones providing the “big money” to film this, not TVB, which means that Tencent is ultimately going to be the ones calling the shots. With TVB’s own series where there was no financial involvement from Mainland with the filming but they wanted to air the series on Mainland streaming platform (Youku, Tudou, Tencent, iQiyi, etc.), they already had to concede control over certain aspects of the production (i.e. allowing Mainland audiences to watch 10 episodes all at once while HK audiences had to wait and watch 1 episode at a time, thereby impacting the series’ ratings in HK), so with this production where Mainland is providing most of the money, no doubt TVB will have even less control. Basically, with this series, don’t be surprised if it ends up being Mainland artists in the lead or “important” roles while all the TVB people are pushed to “second billing” type roles…
I’m sorry but a vine? >_> Uhm how deadly can this be lol. Like sure it can grow fast and destroy building but unlike animal, it doesn’t response the same way? So the end of the trailer when something seems to be behind Louis, it just felt not exciting/scared/thrill? The trailer is not exciting either :( it doesn’t feel very 2055 >_<
Happy for the loving couple. The baby will be gorgeous.
@llwy12 lol oh wow I forgot William and Angelababy use to date *big doubt* TVB make a lot, but doesn't share so unless there is some huge huge connection, I wouldn't count on it
@jayne I just want them to have Fala and Michael Miu. Francis isn't going to hold the team together with just those guys. For me, I don't think Tao&Angelababy can act lol
@jimmyszeto Exactly. There are a ton of gold diggers (some hidden) in the entertainment industry, yet they mislabel a hardworking entertainer. Bernice SHOULD be with a rich man - she's successful herself. The media just chooses to hate on certain celebrities (I can't recall who but there's someone else that they're constantly attacking and will call her rude or w/e when she isn't. Just because they don't like her).
She has her own money too so she can spend them how she want and not work. It's a hard decision when they became house wife, people always complain how YM doesn't take care of her own child, but I guess LSS doesn't have kids yet. But LSS popularity is also declining anyway because of age.
[email protected] I have no problem with men and women getting PS, especially the folks in the public's eye. It seems to be an unwritten law for such requirements for celebs.I like Cecilia too, and if it makes her happy, more power to her to get some work done. Come on, anyone with eyes can see she had work done, good for her, she was always a naturally good looking woman, but she looks great. Once she does not look like Priscilla Presley, Iil Kim or Jocelyn Wildenstein, nothing wrong with getting it. These women who look wonderful and refreshed after PS should be happy with their looks cause wise folks with eyes know they had the work done. Why be like a certain celeb who threatens lawsuits and made an a.ss of herself on national TV. Yes Carol looks a bit run down because looking after her *perfectionist* husband is a job in itself whether he is sick or not. Add the painful, long healing delicate injury he had and that is three jobs in one. Add a small child and elderly parents and Carol should not be envied. She is a couple weeks away from turning 52. Yes, she is aging. What is amazing is Carol seems content to remain simple, which is all good, but hubby spends endless money on sheep cell injections to look good. I guess because he is the public figure and she is not.
True Xiao Long Nu and Guo Er in real life, we thought separating for more than 16 years was long...23???
Jesus! Thank God finally for the first time ever they know how to cast somebody more competible. If she cannot fight or act, her appropriate looks might make up for me at least. She looks very natural and youthful, reminds me of Kathy Chow in a way. I didn't like Tribes and Empires because people walk, move, talk like turtles. So I don't know much of her acting. Hopefully she has some fighting skills, lately the 2 big actresses like Dilireba and Hu Bing Qing fight like they'd never eaten before. Very skinny and going to fly away when the wind blow, their kung fu were slow as heck...
@llwy12 Since I saw "The Feud of Two Brothers" as a little kid, I don't recall this particular scene between Lawrence Ng and Kathy Chow. But Lawrence's lines seem to be well-written and very persuasive. I remember I hated Lawrence's character too. But among the young actors who portrayed villains in the 1980s, Lawrence was the most memorable. Perhaps because his image was so deeply ingrained in my mind, I didn't really buy his perfect doctor role in "Healing Hands".
@cutie777 Since TVB is partnering with Tencent, the filming budget for "Triumph in the Skies 2020" will be 200 RMB. They can afford to hire some stars who are popular in Mainland China. After all, they want to make the drama appealing for Mainland viewers in order to make this a profitable production.
Never heard of the name Eleanor before but I heard of Elena or Elaine.
@llwy12 Well it’s not that I’m excited about the cast I’m just surprised about the cast tvb can afford to paid them if that’s the case because the news claimed that these actors are the highest paid and of course tvb is paying cheap that’s why so many good actors left this day after their contract expires.
She’s such a lucky girl and yes why would she retired this early age unless she’s planning to have a baby soon.
@wm2017 Lol. You called her a snake woman? For some reason they like to called her ah Sheh but not her name like si man? I’m sure she’s prettier than Anita. I don’t know but I have noticed Anita doesn’t like to dress up in a nice way.
I agree with Raymond. He has become much better looking since ‘A Step in the Past’. Had a few nose jobs since...
23 years is not too late to date! :).
This article is inaccurate. I've not seen the movie but didn't Louis cameo together in 12 Little Ducks? If so then must have seen each other more than twice....
Very good chemistry onscreen even though not close friends.
@mangotango Agree. That career gives self worth, and self-esteem. It's YOUR own independent thing, your own ability. It makes you more interesting as a person, and hence also more attractive. Rather then a 'kept looked after' one - which can be the dream and aspiration of a traditional mindset woman. Even among some 20something Millenials in the China crowd. So boring to talk to someone who goes: "my husband thinks, my husband likes, my husband feels that this is ...". What do YOU think? What did you digest from the news, or what YOU saw?
I don't know her. But I observe people, a lot. And women who tend NOT to focus on themselves tend to be more selfless. They care for others more than themselves. Bs the (me, me and MY self care) - ie immaculate painted long manicured nails, having the perfect skin without one sun spot or blemish - it warrants a visit to the doctor to zap, and always perfectly cut hair. These are often also the types who either manipulate their men like little doting loving birds (stroking egos making him think he's King) ... Or control like the Dowager with an iron first. Or can be a trophy wife. But commonality - focus is on SELF. They would throw burgers and buns at their kids, but think nothing about spending 4 h 'saving money' - ie getting their own nails done instead of at a manicurist. Stingy with kids clothing - cheapie $5 market Hello Kitty :P but decked in latest trends or designer brands. They're worth it. SELF CARE can have an underlying trait too - selfish.
Puleeze she's 51! Not every female (even those in showbiz where looks matter) ages naturally gracefully. Quite normal to look like this, at 51, even among society tai-tais. Compare the better looker guys of yore (including Leon Lai) - not everyone ends up aging like chiselled Jacky Cheung too. Skin loses elasticity, metabolic rate drops - easier to put on weight (or develop double chins/eye bags, jowls) etc. Unfortunately. One cannot please everyone. Do some tweaks and PS will come up, stay au naturel and folks will say haggard. :P I just came from the Cecilia Cheung thread where she was looking gorgeous, and there PS was raised. LOL! Cecilia never had all the time to look like that either, when she was married to Nic.
She's basic pretty nevertheless with good features - even before PS. Was too skinny before - it's better she's curvy with more flesh. Girl doesn't always make the wisest decisions (hooking up with Nic Tse was one of those) but at least she's 'manning up' doing double duty as both dad and mom to the kids.
What a sweet couple!
@bubbletea Cecilia had 2 boob jobs before she got married. The first job was done during the time when she suffered from excessive weight loss. It looked like Cecilia had D cups for a while, but rumor has it that she was teased about her big size, so she decided to go back to plastic surgeon to reduce her size a bit. When she first started in industry, Cecilia looked like she was a natural B cup. If she had kept a normal weight, the subsequent boob jobs were totally unnecessary. As for her face, she likely got botox to fill up her cheeks and look more youthful. Here is an article about Cecilia's boob jobs: https://www.jaynestars.com/news/cecilia-cheung-received-breast-implants-twice/
Why do they keep recycling stone age dramas and refresh them with new casts? Are they short of people who can write new stories and good scripts? The first one was OK. The second one - though it got the best drama award - was boring. What else can they talk about in the third one, more romance? PLEASE, GIVE US A BREAK.
I am okay with Cecilia. Have nothing against her, but is there anything on her that is her own anymore. She looks like she got body sculpting done, and her face reeks of excessive plastic surgery. I thought she was a naturally attractive woman with no need for PS.
CC has a very nice curvaceous body, especially in this pictorial. Hard to tell she's a mom of two! I never considered her gorgeous, but certainly her physique is top-notch!
LSS is a bit boring, but still better than LYF lol. I don't see her making any more breakthroughs though. She lucked out with BBJX, but it's hard to repeat that success.
lol 'How to Bed Girls 101'
Is Jessica’s role as bad as the TV series? As in, she was barely in there.
@mangotango LSS isn’t ambitious though. Her career is rather lackluster after BBJX.
I wish Francis can stop filming for TVB because they don't give him good roles that are worthy of his acting. And if TVB is venturing on another joint project from the Mainland, I hope they learnt from the failure of "Master of Destiny" and don't repeat the same mistake. Too many characters means the script has to be very intense to let ALL the characters shine. If not, then it would just be another babysitting project. Stars can add to the hype and popularity, but a crappy plot will still be a crappy plot. If I want to watch nice scenery that I would watch a travel show instead than put up with a crappy plot. TVb really needs to put more effort int he substance than the gloss on top before they go off promoting it as another A-class project.
LOL...this article is so true, though I will admit that I chuckled a bit seeing those scenes broken down in such detail like this. I honestly never thought about any of this when I first watched this series 30 years ago -- all I knew was that I hated Lawrence for the way he treated Kathy. It's interesting how such an old series can still be so relevant 3 decades later....
@coralie Completely agree! Though the ironic thing is that more and more, Hollywood is trying to infiltrate the Chinese box office because they are starting to realize how lucrative that box office truly is. I was just reading an article the other day about a Hollywood movie (can't remember exactly which one, I think it was Pacific Rim but not 100% sure) that didn't fare well at all when it was released in the U.S., but when it was released in China, the box office intake far surpassed that of what it took in at the U.S. box office, which gave the movie a huge boost in the global box office front. So of course, Hollywood is now trying to get a bigger piece of the pie. I could be wrong but I think what Donnie meant was more along the lines of the above related to China's lucrative box office due to its population, not necessarily having anything to do with creativity or talent. I think what he's talking about is China pushing hard to be the global leader in entertainment but not necessarily having to change anything to do it -- I mean, the fact is, even Hollywood is making movies geared specifically toward China now. And I never thought I would see this but some are actually trying to penetrate the China market through full immersion and actually learning the culture and what makes Chinese audiences tick. The most recent example is director Renny Harlin (who did Die Hard 2, Nightmare on Elm Street 4, Cliffhanger, and a bunch of other B movies in the 90s), who actually moved to China to learn their trade and is actually directing Chinese movies now (his latest movie is an action thriller starring Nick Cheung and Richie Ren). I read an interview that Harlin did with Hollywood Reporter and was impressed by how much he understood about the Chinese culture and the market in China after only about 4 years living and working there. Of course, most of Hollywood probably isn't going to take the same path Harlin did and no doubt there is still a huge disparity between the two cultures, but I think I understand a little bit better what Donnie was trying to get at after reading about Harlin's example and a few others.
She is still very attractive.
Why should Shi Shi retire unless she wants to be a full time housewife? I don't see that. She is still young and doing very well. I wouldn't if I am in her shoes. A woman with a career IMO is more attractive.
@jimmyszeto Always has been like that. During its heydays of the 70s and 80s it has always been a stepping stone to making yourself known as a star then getting into the movies realm. In the late 90s and early 2000s it was then trying to get into Hollywood and now into Mainland China. The funny thing about the HK entertainment industry is that TVB need the actors and vice versa. Seems that unless you are super popular (think heavenly kings type level) most come back to TVB to get better exposure once in a while when their careers become stale or experience a lull.
Wow, Nick sure is busy this year. In addition to this sequel (if confirmed), he’s also got the movie with Sean Lau and Karena Lam (the “Integrity” trilogy from the creators of “Infernal Affairs”), then he’s also got his own movie that he directed and starred in (action thriller “The Trough” which actually looks pretty good), and also the movie with Richie Ren helmed by Hollywood director Renny Harlin (I think the latest working name for the movie is “Bodies at Rest”). And those are only the ones I heard about — I’m sure there are probably more....I think Nick will tie with Louis Koo for being the busiest actor in show biz this year, lol...
@kirigiri Good questions. FH4 is definitely going to happen because Mui Shiu Ching is producing it and she has nothing else to do pretty much. When both she and her husband Lau Ka Ho returned to TVB, they had already announced their plan to film sequels to their series, but on a “grander”scale and in collaboration with Mainland. As for the cast, that’s what will probably change depending on various factors such as schedules, politics, etc. For Triumph 3, if Francis doesn’t participate (my guess is that he won’t), TVB is going to move forward with it still because they are greedy and not going to let the opportunity pass them by to continue milking the franchise. The other option would’ve been to play up the Cool Mort piece since Chi Lam got pretty popular after the 2nd installment so if Francis couldn’t participate, that could’ve been consolation prize at least, but with TVB’s current dispute with Stephen Shiu Jr’s company HMV/China 3D (Chi Lam is signed to them) that’s not an option either. Either way, they will find a way to “justify” it like they always do. And it doesn’t matter one bit if interest plummets — since TVB still monopolizes the industry, they can basically do whatever they please without regard for what others think.
please don't tell me they spoil the ending and Natalie dies ._.
@llwy12 well said. Pls tell me this is just a joke from Tvb. They totally ruined the sequel. They cast many young actors with average actings and stupid plot. Actually I didn't know what it was while watching the sequel, just can't believe that Francis took that role.
While I admire his genuine interest for acting overall, I won't be surprised if he ends up working as a physiotherapist full time due to the competitive and questionable nature of TVB.
Bigger questions at hand: 1) will this, FH4 and other planned series actually roll out? In past tvb presentations some series either end up being cancelled or the actual product becomes drastically different in terms of cast and/or story. 2) What happens if Francis doesn't partake in the third instalment? If this happens I can tell interest would likely plummet hard even with the likes of Ruco and Kenneth.
@llwy12 Wow. All those movies you mentioned sound really appealing. Will keep on eye out for them...
@jimmyszeto Interestingly enough, I went through most of the Filmart stuff this year paying more attention to the non-TVB / non-Shaw Brothers related series/movies than anything else (yet another sign that I’m starting to get sick of TVB, lol). With that said though, so far there haven’t been many web series I’m interested in watching (at least not the ones announced at Filmart) but there are plenty of movies that sound really good – for instance: Kara Wai’s “A Life of Papers” (which is also from Louis Koo’s production company One Cool Film – I’m more interested in this movie than the ASITP movie tbh), Anthony Wong’s “Still Human” (this year’s Asia Film Financing Forum pick for HK), Philip Keung’s Tracey (wow, that poster! how many HK films do we see out there that dare to cover transgender topic?), Sammi Cheng and Charlene Choi’s “Murder in San Jose” (based on Candace Chong’s stageplay – I will pretty much watch anything related to Candace Chong’s works, lol), Nick Cheung + Sean Lau reunion film “Integrity” (this one is from the creators of “Infernal Affairs” and will be another trilogy – I honestly don’t care about the story on this one though...I just want to see Nick and Sean battle acting chops again, lol!).
@llwy12 Just skimmed through the Filmart. Looks like Vincent has got the most meaty role again in ‘Brothers’ alongside Matt Yeung and Philip No. Probably easily the most anticipated series this year so far. I’m actually really looking forward to Justice Bao which will give the many support actor/actresses the opportunity to shine. It is definite worthy of a remake...
Its a pity that none of the series Ben Wong has led in has a decent enough plot for me to watch so far. Hoping to catch some of his new series this year. He seems to be a nice humble guy.
@jimmyszeto Could be coming down the pike soon, lol. Lau Ka Ho and Mui Siu Ching seem to be hell-bent on making sequels of all their popular series (that’s pretty much all they’ve done since returning to TVB several years ago), Shaw Brothers is teaming up with Wong Jing to film god knows how many collab series / movies (of course we all know that WJ is the King of Rehash, lol), and then you’ve got those artists who have their own studios and are also joining the TVB remake / sequel / spinoff bandwagon (i.e. Louis with his ASITP movie version). I honestly don’t think it’s ever going to end....
@wm2017 I admire Anita that she shows her real self at all times rather than be fake in front cameras like some of the celebrities. I think her personality and too much success too early in her career has prevented her from becoming a superstar now ranking alongside the like of Maggie Cheung. Apart from not mixing well with casts and crew she is not idolised and puts off fans due to her personality no matter how beautiful she was. I don’t think there were many guys grew up in the 90s admitting to having a crush on Anita Yuen. My opinion though she was ok but not beautiful as she thinks. Her acting though is another league to Chilam and should be far more successful but Chilam has all the positive personality attributes that Anita does not possess.
@cutie777 lol.....I never find snake woman or Anita Yuen pretty but yes snake does look a little bit prettier in the above pic. haha jimmyszeto, God's gift - hahahahaa LMAO...so true. She wishes and thinks of it of herself I am sure just like how she openly admits yes I am lian lian.....ahhaa
I can never understand the hype of this so called great but such an average and boring series. sighh......
@llwy12 I wonder when they will decide to make a Detective Investigation Files V or a Witness of a Prosecution 3, or maybe another 10 sequels of File of Justice....
@jimmyszeto Actually, Mainland already made their version of Triumph, it just hasn’t aired yet. TVB knows about that version, yet that hasn’t stopped them from proceeding with this version. Speaking of Line Walker — TVB (Shaw Brothers) announced a Line Walker 2 movie that will once again star Nick Cheung and Louis Koo but this time it will be directed by Andrew Lau instead of Jazz Boon (they’re going with big name movie director this time instead of their own no name mediocre ones, lol). Oh and you guys heard that Mui Siu Ching is doing Forensic Heroes 4 too right? TVB announced that at Fimart too. Looks like the obsession with making sequels and re-living past glory knows no end...actually, it’s really starting to get out of hand....
I don't think we can use the excuse or need any justification that Carol is looking haggard just because she is looking after Andy and her family. It is very normal for a wife to look after her family. She is just getting older and looking her age. Maybe people take it for granted that 50+ year olds should look youthful because of many of lead actresses are looking young due to surgery, botox, makeup or just looking after themselves well.
@funnlim "Also comes with the burden of his fans".......... That sentence makes no sense. Why would Carol looking haggard be attributed to the fans. Yes, Andy has some sick 'fans' who are nutty but all the other three from that group have nutty fans too, and their wives do not go around looking haggard. The fans or the media do not harass or abuse Carol in any way. Well, there have been a few, one in particular, who wrote horrible things about Carol cause they wanted Andy for themselves. That is still not an excuse to blame the fans for Carol looking haggard. Carol simply is tired from looking after Andy full time, not that she is, or should be complaining. He needed that as his recovery was a very delicate and prolonged process. She also has his two elderly parents to care for. Add a young child as well, and that would wear out any superwoman. Hope Andy appreciates the special and wonderful wife he has.
@llwy12 I don't think these huge mainland stars would be interested in working with these mediocre Hong Kong stars. Some smaller mainland stars might be interested because of the the genre which is unique and can help them gain major recognition. It is definitely a unique franchise/genre that TVB can be proud of just like ATV's My Date with the Vampire. As soon as a China station decide to create their own aviation series then we'll likely see an end to the sequels. We haven't seen a major breakthough since Line Walker since the station is obsessed with making sequels and living of past glories.
@llwy12 I agree that the training has totally disappeared and not like what it once was in the 70's and 80's where all the artists got taught how to act, how to fight,horse riding etr. The artists from the past all developed a good set of skills to cope with a career in acting. Now it is just a business and quick promotions to catapult Miss Hong Kong winners or former singers to stardom. Even acting and music awards are strategically used for promoting own station artists. TVB has the monopoly so they can do as they please. People who have ambition of making it in the entertainment industry should treat it as a long term investment by trying to use TVB as a stepping stone in achieving greater things. If things are not looking to go well then change professions asap.....
@funnlim @jayne It’s quite obvious that TVB is running out of ideas. Triumph 2 was a poor follow up to the original and the movie version (aka “extended MV”) was a complete joke. And now they are touting a 3rd installment that is supposedly going to be “grander” than the ones that came before it? Thanks but no thanks – I like my series with more substance and that’s not something I’ll be able to find in any TVB series nowadays…
@cutie777 LOL…let’s not get too excited! First of all, the cast is not confirmed – as usual, TVB starts throwing out their “wish list” of names to get people talking about the series, but in reality, none of those stars were even asked to participate…it’s pretty much just TVB “hoping” they can get those artists, though 99.9% chance they won’t because those artists aren’t going to give them the time of day, the Mainland artists especially. Let’s think about it – with the HK artists, TVB can at least use the “loyalty” card to get the A-listers to film for them (often at a “friendship” price) but they have zero leverage with the big name Mainland artists (unless they partner with an influential Mainland production company on this series and get that company to recruit the artists). And Francis never said he was participating in this – that piece was the netizens wanting him in it after hearing the announcement.
@cutie777 Anita Yuen had always had a quite blunt and arrogant manner which is quite opposite to Chilam's more friendly and harmless and non conflict approach. Anyone younger and pretty will be a threat to the ego of Anita if not to her marriage because she has always thought of herself as God's gift .
@funnlim Technically, it’s only a small percentage of artists who get commercials/movies/endorsements – mostly the “popular” ones or the ones that TVB are trying to promote. The lesser known supporting artists usually rely on other means to supplement their incomes (outside jobs not related to the industry, theater work, teaching, opening a business, singing at bars or other entertainment venues, etc.). And definitely agree regarding the behind-the-scenes people, who are almost always underpaid and under-recognized (and also forced to bear the brunt of people’s anger when series don’t turn out right). Scriptwriting, for example, is one of the worst positions to take up because they oftentimes have to work under a ridiculous set of rules and enormous pressure for a small measly salary (some don’t even get paid) and then depending on who they get the fortune (or misfortune) to work with, sometimes have to watch their scripts get butchered / changed / altered, yet they still have to take the hit for it when those “edits” don’t work out, even though they had nothing to do with the changes (and the opposite is true too where scriptwriters don’t get credit for a good script – the producers get all the credit). It’s sad that in HK, scriptwriters for movies get recognition (in the form of awards and name recognition) and lyricists / songwriters do as well (albeit on a smaller scale), yet television writers get nothing – not even name recognition – but they still have to “grin and bear” whatever “abuse” comes to them….who would want to join the ranks of television (which is still dominated by TVB) scriptwriting in these circumstances? And we wonder why TVB’s scripts are so formulaic and old-school with no new ideas or creativity and also why audiences oftentimes can’t relate to the series at all – that’s what happens when you have the same few overworked and underpaid people blindly churning out script after script after script just to meet deadlines….
@jimmyszeto LOL…of course that’s what TVB will say. If that’s the case, then that’s what TVB should re-brand themselves to be – a feeder company that makes artists popular (through immersion in their 24/7 promo cycles) and then outsources them to other companies to work. Many people call TVB a “school” but to be honest, they are not deserving of such a title because there is little to no training that goes on (sorry, but I don’t consider plucking an MHK winner straight from the pageant and throwing them into series as “training”). Honestly, there’s so little substance to what TVB churns out nowadays, they might as well just switch to being an artist deployment company or something and outsource their artists to others who actually care and can help the artists build a truly solid career (it would be better for us audiences too, lol).
Lol. Maybe Anita is being jealous who knows. Charmaine looks pretty from the picture above and I think she looks better with a longer hairstyle.
According to tvb press conference at Filmart, cast wasn’t been confirmed yet.. I guess we can only hope for the best.
Really Yang Mi is going to be cast in here with Angelababy too? I thought they’re the higest paid actor and tvb can afford to paid them? Omg!! Imagine Angelababy and William Chan are going to be a couple in here? I heard they used to dated? It’s good to see Francis back on screen again and Ruco too and I thought Moses is leaving tvb?
@funnlim "Triumph" is like a romance novel with glamorous locations. The first series was refreshing. Although I liked the addition of Chilam Cheung in the second drama, I couldn't watch it in entirety because nothing significant seems to happen. As for the third installment, it is hard to mix Hong Kong and Mainland Chinese stars in the same cast. Due to Tencent's involvement and the Mainland market, "Triumph in the Skies 2020" will likely have a much stronger Mainland flavor. But I would like to see Ruco Chan in pilot uniform. When they filmed the second series, I was hoping he would be cast.
@llwy12 At least they can supplement income with commercials and movies and endorsement hence working all the time. Poor supporting actors as well. I can only imagine what about writers, directors, assistants. Those are the ones who have nothing else to do except take salary. Stop paying top artistes too much money.
Karena to another similarly named?
she has one job. Andy Lau is a full time job. of course she is haggard. Also comes with the burden of his fans.
If film version is about subsequent events, surely Kong Wah can't come back to life. If film version is a repeat of the series, aren't they all TOO old?
Not another romance story in the sky. Not interested. Since it's a movie with huge budget and huge names, remake Airport the movie. Or any disaster film but with a happy ending.
@llwy12 The usual TVB explanation to counter your points will be. 'We help the artists become known to viewers and gain popularity. This helps the artists to earn money by taking on jobs outside the station'. TVB is becoming more of a feeder company or a stepping stone for wannabe celebrities rather than a long term employer to work for....
“A senior once told me that I’ve already mastered physical therapy." Such bull.
The weak links in the invites has got to be Ruco and Kenneth in terms of popularity....
So when is TVB going to adjust their pay so that artists don’t have to keep leaving or supplementing their income with other jobs in order to get by? King Lam isn’t the only artist in this situation. I read an interview that Derek Kok did a few weeks back and he said that in the nearly 3 decades he worked at TVB, he could barely make enough money to buy a house (and Derek is considered one of the more well-known supporting actors too!), yet since leaving TVB 3 years ago, he has made several times the amount filming in Mainland and also web series in HK, to the point that he was able to buy a house recently and also the hours are less grueling so he is able to spend more time with his family. They are but just 2 examples out of many. TVB always claims they “cherish” their artists but that is the biggest BS. Salary and work environment are the two most important contributors to job satisfaction for employees, yet those are the exact 2 things that TVB sucks big time at. Loyalty can only go so far, especially when it boils down to artists having to feed their families and put shelter over their heads (and living in HK is not cheap, as all the recent debates over housing issues illustrate). As the years go by, more and more options are cropping up in terms of entertainment, so if TVB doesn’t want to get to the point where no one is willing to work for them anymore, they need to get with the program and at minimum, fix the pay and work environment issues. But of course, feedback like this is going to fall on deaf ears, since at the end of the day, TVB doesn’t care about their artists (who are merely money-making tools for them) – they would rather spend the money on grand productions with Mainland and also break into Hollywood (i.e. their partnering with Imagine Entertainment) rather than re-invest it into what should be their biggest asset: their artists. Sad and pathetic!
@m0m0 My first thought was that Raymond had gone and got himself a cheap Eason Chan haircut.
It almost seems as if Raymond and MC Jin are singing separate songs. The parts don't really go well together. Maybe it is better for Raymond's song to be opening theme, and MC Jin's song to be ending theme. Then each song can maintain its own individual style.
@mangotango Totally agree. Some people take their time or can handle pressure just fine, others have temper on duty. We all are different. I deal with some people with temper everyday at work and I still have no problem with them.
@coralie I am not a fan of all Hollywood movies. Yet I doubt China can catch up in the next 10 years. They have the $$ and potential talent but these talent needs to be nurtured and allowed to grow profusely. The problem as I personally see it is governmental control to the point of being utterly phobic and close minded. There is no way creativity can thrive in this environment. The big budget China movies are filled with glamourous costumes and special effects but as @coralie pointed out, somehow lacking in brilliant scripts and depth. I blame it partly on the audience. China audience seems to enjoy glitter and gold, heroes and heroines. All actors and actresses must be pretty and glamourous. Or it must not paint Chinese in a bad light. Real life is never pretty. IMO, a good movie is one which leaves me with an unforgettable line or scene which opens one's heart and mind. Or something which we ordinary beings can relate to. It needn't be a big budget movie with special effect flicks. In fact, personally, I am tired of movies with too much special effects and little depth. To be really good also mean it can compete internationally. I hope China can first start by allowing its current breed of talented producers, directors and scriptwriters, the freedom to express their ingenuity. Then Donnie can talk about surpassing Hollywood or others unless of course, he is talking about only Chinese tastes. @dook, @mike, I think having a bad temper and being a good director/producer is two different thing. Donnie can have a temper and yet is a brilliant director.
@mangotango Well said. She’s really the woman behind a man’s back. Low profile, simple and understanding. Kudos to her
@tiffany I thought so too. It’s the weekend slot and most people may be out enjoying the weekend. Having such rating is quite an achievement. I love this show cos it made me laugh so much. I’d wish it’s a weekday slot...
@jayne Just saw the clip, they all sound uncomfortable. Chi Lam has always given me this impression that he is a bit afraid of his wife. haha lol....Like cantonese metaphor, wife slave? Anita Yuen openly admits that she is pretty so to me that is arrogant. haha lol...I never find her to be a good actress or overly pretty. Looks like she got the man so yes she didn't have to sound awkward or uncomfortable. Just the pic of her above spells uncomfortable. lol....
@mike Two names doesn't substitute for several other unspecified names you just claimed so my point still stands. Let's talk facts here and not going off topic talking about me defending Donnie (a typical sign of running out of steam), at least being technical is better than claiming things out in thin air without backing up with anything crucial. As far as I know about their comments, they took place in the very press conference of The Monkey King and was done in a joking manner as part of marketing their product. But please do provide me some links where they have talked about Donnie's temper in great details elsewhere. Also, don't talk about anger issues when temper was just talked about. They are two different things.
I came for the MV. Cool collaboration!
@shimmerstars it's easy to fall in love when his assistant goes to his place for meetings. 孤男寡女...anything can happen. Leon admitted he will be a father, but never mentioned getting married.
@wm2017 agree. Raymond looks terrible in this pic.
he has admitted he will be a father. his ex is a model...but present gf is his assistant with lots of perks. aaron had a shot gun marriage and a father now. leon must have felt very miserable after his marriage and not a father at a ripe old age.
Gee, the title of this news appear to imply Bosco is gay. What the heck ge buys skirts for?
Andy is lucky to have Carol.
Eh, not a fan of the song.
raymond is looking more and more like eason chan
Well, if Charmaine & Chilam really had a thing back then, I wouldn't be surprised. They had amazing chemistry in ROTC and in subsequent costarring dramas. Plus the rumor mill was super busy at the time. No smoke if there's no fire.
The bum look is getting more and more popular...
@wm2017 In a talk show with Stephen Chan, Anita shared that Chilam Cheung had a rumor with a female co-star that bothered her. While names were not mentioned, it was speculated that Anita meant Charmaine Sheh. Anita said that Chilam treated everyone so well and sometimes gave the actress the wrong impression that he may be interested in her. Anita said that after that talk, Chilam watched himself more carefully to avoid misunderstandings. Charmaine was a young actress at the time she filmed TVB drama, "Return of the Cuckoo" with Chilam in 2000. It was largely speculated that she had a crush on Chilam during filming, which upset Anita. That is why each time Chilam and Charmaine have a filming project together or appear at events together, the press will hint at this old gossip. Although they say they don't feel awkward, I do feel the trio are always a bit uneasy. You can tell by Chilam's body language (he doesn't really look at Charmaine in the video) and Anita's facial expressions in above clips.
@wm2017 Anita never watched her words when she was younger. Got a few people ticked back in the days.
The rental company that I work for at the moment provided the filming equipment for this film, so I got to see some footage that someone conveniently forgot to erase from the cards haha
@jayne I think Anita Yuen has always been arrogant. When she first came out as MSHK she was okay but as time progresses n all interviews and such I feel she always acts a bit arrogant. The time she was a mistress or gf to some rich man, none of these women sound like they are doing anything wrong or inappropriate that to me is already quite arrogant. But on side note, these rumors of CLC N CS was never true thou right? I mean why do they always bring that up. Boring!!
@m0m0 If the ground did have name labels telling where the artistes to stand, then it was the film company's intention to capitalize on the trio's old rumors to promote "The Leaker". Poor Anita seemed to pick the wrong choice of words when she said she would be too busy if she paid attention to all of Chilam's rumors. I know she was trying to dismiss the rumors, but she also came across as a bit arrogant. Also watching the video, Anita seemed to be the least comfortable compared to Chilam and Charmaine.
Would be fun if they cast Anita and Charmaine together as rivals in a movie. Would likely see real slap action of the calibre of Liza Wang vrs Jaime Chik.
it must felt weird for anita to stand so close to charmine.
It might help NOT to tie/band back her hair so tightly daily either. Ballet and Chinese dance dancers .... they often have this hairline - reining in hair tightly would have something to do with it.
i like all the originals except michelle. i really want to see gong wah
@littlefish i know but not to the point of receding hairline. i think it's more to do w/ extreme diets rather than just after giving birth.
@jayne hah! I notice that too. it's either guys just have very bad aesthetics or they're just too ignorant of nuances.
@winnie other Asian countries watch Chinese dramas though. like Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, sometimes Thailand, HK, Taiwan, etc.
@shimmerstars true, but that’s probably why Leo said time will prove everything, as he must know what people thinks of her. Could be true, but in the end of the day, it could be love. Like Leo said only time will tell
@dook 2 of the biggest stars in HK has already came out and commented about his anger issue and you are trying to defend Donnie on technicality. Why don't you conduct an interview with all the HK stars so you can prove Fat Gor and Aaron wrong for talking about Donnie's anger issue without video evidence. You don't have be an arse to the film crew to get things done. Being respectful to other colleagues can go a long way.
@mike Only two... That's not ALOT. And them pointing out his temper doesn't mean anything as they have been seen socializing together years after the release of the first Monkey King movie. That's just how Donnie works on set.
@dook Fat Gor and Aaron Kwok both have commented on his temper. With Fat Gor being more vocal regarding the same.
Why is Jacqueline Wong not on this list? She and Tracy Chu look so similar, I get them mixed up all the time. Samantha Ko shouldn’t be on this list at all. It’s nice to see that they’re in their late 20s to early 30s. I was expecting this to be the next generation of TVB actresses and everyone to be 23 to 25 years old.
He has a personal trainer. Enough said.
@willister He looks pretty good for 51 without plastic enhancements. If he went that route, netizens would be ragging him about doing plastic surgery.
@mama US is a multicultural country with different races. Films mainly focus on white people and increasingly on african-americans. China is comprised of 50+ethnic groups which are all Asian-looking. The exception are the Uighurs who appear more white.
@m0m0 you do lost more after birth. And this could start a few months after birth. I lost quite a bit of hair. But not as bad as Myolie.
@willister He doesn't look bad for a 50yo. And yes probably without botox and good to know he prefers to age gracefully.
Wait, so he's up against a celebrity chef who's basically the opposite; a chef who became a celebrity rather than a celebrity that became a chef. Seems a little lopsided if you ask me. It's like asking David to be in an acting competition with Nic. Ah well, guess you have to take what you can get.
Good on Leon in becoming an expectant father. But so sad that he has to resort sleeping with his assistant "Wing". Does he really love her? Or she's just using Leon to have fame and fortune? Seeing that Wing divorced her husband then dated Aarif Rahman. She's clearly worked her way up to the top. She can be a tai tai 太太 easily with her future cemented coz she's having Leon's kid.
she still looks great!
@llwy12 Good luck to Louis! Long overdue lol
I can’t wait! Best wishes to Louis and his production company.
ommmggg i am so excited lol my fav childhood show
This bloke looks real haggard! Probably hasn't had the boxtox done like Alex To though.
@wm2017 agree about Alex wife age they don’t look that much age apart. I would say it’s the same age as for Kevin and Grace they’re also 24 years apart isn’t it? Lol. Leon what a sweater!!
“Nine and half out of ten films focus on white people." in china's film industry is it also nine and half out of ten films focus on chinese people? or is it 100%
@mike And which HK stars would those be? Also, being strict is part of movie-making. You cannot achieve anything if you don't work hard enough or at least push your limits to challenge and bring the best result out of yourself. The movie business isn't as easy as you think. Pretty much all of the old generation Hong Kong filmmakers/actors had to develop this strict habit to get their careers ahead
Aside from Michelle, who could possibly make a guest appearance like she did in Paradox due to her friendship with Louis, I highly doubt the rest of the cast will return. The reason why Raymond and Jessica are returning for this is because both of them are signed to Louis’ management company, so of course the natural thing for them to do is to participate in the movie version. Also, since this is a co-production with China, they are required to save some of the “meaty” roles for Mainland artists – since the 3 main lead roles have already been taken up by HK artists, then it makes sense that the remaining “meaty” roles go to Mainland actors/actresses. One good thing about this production is that Louis is involved with the movie just like he was with the series and so you know he will care about the project enough not to butcher it…unlike some of the other movie versions of TVB series where an entirely different team was involved and the movie versions ended up being unwatchable flops that were pretty much just “money grabs” riding on the success of the original series. I wasn’t a fan of ASITP so I’m indifferent to this news about a movie version but if it’s inevitable that a movie version be made, Louis is definitely the best person to do it. By the way – congrats to Louis for his 2 Best Actor wins this past weekend (from Asian Film Awards and Directors Guild Awards)! Now he is officially the “hot favorite” for Best Actor going into HKFA next month…best of luck to him!
@kkcheong lol....True...no one buys DVD's anymore who needs them now that we have streaming. Pretty soon even Blue-ray's will be gone.
Leon Lai - Way to go! Always like his straightforward and on point responses. haha Lol.... I like how does not do botherr doing press cons like I didn't give a * about anyone's opinions..lol...Press cons are so fake. On a side note, Alex To's wife sure does not look 24 years younger. ahha lol...Or Alex To looks great for his age?
Waaa, that sure isn't a good shot of Raymond Lam. haha lol.. I actually never dislike this girl and even using social media to openly announcing break up I still find her to be quite matured as her real age is still relatively young. I still remember how this dude was announcing I love you in what 6 or 7 times and even then this girl was just giving simple answers like Thank you X 3. lol.... haha She was what 19 or 20 at the time? So to me I feel she handled the media quite well. I didn't find her as fake.
A smart movie with twist & turn would be ideal
Karena, Carina ... confused much Ray ?
Main problem is the script. And just because you have 1.3B chinese doesn't mean you would have 1.3B viewers and 1.3B financial resources to get creative. Hollywood is global, worldwide, combined roughly 7.5B ... chance of leading the industry is low.
@gateroller1 who buy dvd now? It’s either Blu-ray or streaming. What year are you living in? 2008? Omg
@cutie777 @bubbletea like Samantha and other victims of harassment, I've often felt guilty for being taken advantage of and not calling out the men at the time. There are predators out there who know which victims are the most gullible and repeat offenses are the most damaging.
Men have a tendency to post unflattering photos of their significant others, without paying attention to the details. I see this on Facebook all the time.
@kolo I think even Kwong Wah would be unlikely. Better to add some young additions who are regulars in movies rather than just TV serial regulars.
@jimmyszeto i also think andy lau wouldnt play a minor role in a louis ko production,maybe if it is a hung kam bo movie andy will pay respect for big big brother. but louis doesnt possess the power to move a superstar like andy lau. its easier to sign kong wa for louis if he have a good script for him.
It is the perfect first big project for Louis Koo's studio with the title that cemented his name as a star in Hong Kong. I don't expect that he would be looking for all the previous cast to return or it will just be too similar. No chance of Andy Lau being a replacement for Any Lau appearing unless it was for the main lead role plus they wouldn't be able to afford him.
The food looks decent....
@coralie yeah, low budget can still make quality shows. w/ the education system in china, not likely that there'd be a bigger break through.
i am not aware that new moms could suffer from new loss. i know that w/ pregnancy, hair doesn't fall out b/c of hormonal changes. then after birth, hair loss goes back to normal that's why it seems there's more falling out but not to the extreme of hairline receding.
Chinese film distributors need to understand that accessing Chinese film and actors also means providing the rest of the world with appropriate DVD region formats. There a lot of people like me (in UK) who love Chinese films but often have great difficulty getting hold of Region 0 format DVDs. Wake up Chinese film industry! There is a world market out there that is not being properly exploited. Chinese films and actors will be better known and appreciated with a bit more effort from distributors.
@coralie I have to agree with you 100 percent that money does not buy class, common sense, or decency, among other qualities. You have them or you don't. Look at Donald Trump, his family. Son in law included and his White House staff.I not a fan of neither Raymond Lam or Karen's. Yes, maybe she is a gold digger, maybe not. However, she has been accused of all sorts of things from a tender young age, and she has handled herself with a quiet dignity and maturity. If that a few women I can think of, they would be whining on about how can people be so cruel, and how they really love their boyfriend, yakkity, quality, yak, blah, blah, blah. Karen's never complained, never said a word in defence of herself and handled interviews with class and discretion about her life, relationship with Raymond included. One must remember that Karen's was not yet even twenty when she started dating Raymond. She also had to put up with the fact that Raymond's family hated her. That is a lot of pressure. Add the fact that she was trying to get her foot in the ebiz door, becoming a full fledged adult , being in her first serious adult relationship, and being harassed by Raymond's fanatic fans. Add the cruel, negative Weibo posts and media write ups about her.That is a lot of pressure. Whether she had a public image to protect or not, Karena handled it all with class. I have seen other young starlets throw public tantrums and whine about so much less than what Karen's had to deal with.
He's partially wrong. Money is not the main problem. It's the scripts. You can make a great movie on a low budget; the issue is making a movie marketable to a greater audience and appeal to everyone. Lots of Asian movies these days are geared more toward gloss and cinematography. There's a reason we usually win awards for that category. But when it comes to great storylines? Maybe we get one or two a year. It's not better or worse than Hollywood, but when you consider the scale of people and talent that are available in China, it's tragic. Also, too many bans in place. How can you freely make movies if your country bans every controversial topic that arises? I mean, it's not impossible, but limits the scope of creativity and variety.
I didn't enjoy Shock Wave much and as usual Andy's character in the movie was full-on central focus without the need of supporting actors/actresses. The only actor given anything to work with was Philip Keung and even that was very limited. Ron's role could have been given to literally anybody with the same results. The demand of viewers might be to watch scene after scene of Andy Lau but I prefer more balanced movies with plenty of roles allowing character development and support actors/actresses to shine. Apart from for the opportunity to meet him, I don't think there is any value for an ambitious actor to participate in any Andy's movies.....
i don't know if asians would really find equality in terms of numbers in hollywood. afterall, we are merely 8% of the population. we are mostly in the major cities, even in those major cities, you won't have to travel too far out to find that you are the only asian arounds. for example, i am looking at summer camps for my children, as diverse of a city I live in, the summer camps are either all whites or all black. asians/hispanics are rare breeds.
@bubbletea with good cleaning, they dont smell. If she has a massive house, the litter area is obviously nowhere near. Cats dont smell anywhere as bad as dogs drama4me. There's a reason for the terms "smells like dog" or "dog breath" and none for cats because they self groom and are the most OCD creatures you can have for a pet. The only reason it will smell is if the owner doesnt clean up the mess properly, just like if you dont clean your own toilet properly.
I thought both pronunciations of Karena and Carina was the same :P Looks like Carina is slightly older so maybe not such a big age gap and difference in approaches this time around?
Donnie Yen is not a easy person to get along in the movie set. Lots of HK stars have come out and said he has a temper. Wonder how he behaves himself in Hollywood sets.
@llwy12 it was such a poor series. i actually sat through it due to the stars in it. That was around the time I start noticing Gallen seems to be always in poor tvb series.
@nigel ya that guy looks amazing at that age
"Hollywood films have a clear financial investment source. " But almost every hollywood movie I see is financed by China hence Jing Tian in every single hollywood walk on role.
@jimmyszeto I don't think anyone would know her better than he would, since they've been in a relationship for several years. But, maybe at the time he was biased, just like I'm biased now from seeing how she interviews. She didn't develop overnight; I think it started from her career as a model and as an actress. I know a couple of model acquaintances and all of them have a certain grace and composure from being in the field for years.
@coralie Since Raymond is biased at the time for obvious reasons and only based on a handling of media questions I cannot give an opinion. Class need to be developed through a good home upbringing and education. Unless I have information regarding that, I cannot make an accurate enough of a judgement. I don't believe that 'class and composure' can be developed overnight unless it is a false act. Family background and education does have a big influence on class. It is a natural progression....
@jimmyszeto yeah, true. everything is hearsay and pretense unless you really know someone underneath all the pretty packaging. but Raymond did say he liked her for her maturity + EQ and this is definitely displayed when she answer questions from the press. so for this reason, I would like to give her the benefit of the a doubt and say she is like that in real life.
@coralie The comment on Karena being 'classy and composed in front of the media' might be true but we know nothing else about her on a personal level to judge what her personality is in reality. Different people have different methods of 'handling the media'. Also we don't know enough to speculate why Raymond fell for her. We would just be guessing. Just exploring the options and not ruling out that she may be classy. Any of the options can be true. Mature, humble, greedy, composed, money orientated? Only she knows....
@nomad822 to be fair, you don't need to be around high-fashioned or affluent society to learn how to be a polite, well-spoken person. Karena was presentable even before she started dating Raymond -- that's probably what attracted him to begin with. Of course, dating Raymond extended the perks of her social circle immensely, but to say it's him who groomed her into a classy & composed woman is stretching it a bit.... @jimmyszeto - I admit I'm one of those folks who didn't like Karena much when they first started dating. But after seeing her composure and grace when answering personal questions regarding her + Raymond's relationship, I started liking her a lot more. She might be immature on a personal level (of which I don't see), but she's handled all the media attention with grace and maturity, more than I can say for other people. and let's not use someone's less glamorous background as reason for questioning her class. wealth is not associated with class.
@llwy12 very great points and very well put. Yes, Leon is the last of the group of four to become a father. Jackie's journey of becoming a husband and father was very normal because he was forthcoming with sharing it with the public and media. What is amazing is the fact that he shared the news, he was not hounded by the press, he was not abandoned by his fans, who were happy for him, and the media gave him space as they knew he is a private man. I think so mms e poo f these celebs delude themselves that they are bigger than the universe and have to keep this and keep that private for the safety of their partner. Funny thing is, since the partners have been brought to light, all they get is support from the fans and the paps don't even attempt to harass said partners. My beef with such idols is if you have a wonderful m.p.h. an in your life, don't say anything at all if you don't want to admit the relationship. If you are married oily rd, don't bellow that you are not, and don't t bully and threaten others with lawsuits when you are indeed a married man, or woman. Just keep quiet. At least Leon will not have to hide anything . Jackie has always struck me as an honest, honorable man.
@1piscesish it is this kind of mentality that makes me so fed up with the Asian society. What does Wing's looks have to do with Gaile Lok and how Leon feels about her. He fell in love with the woman, and not her 'plain' face. Love is not about looks. I so wish the Asian culture would wake up from their delusional bubble.
Samantha Ko has always come across as an attention seeker, someone who is the 博出位 (bok chuk wai) type, who will do whatever it takes. The Me Too movement is great - it's given courage, taken momentum and dragging out all the dirty linen in Korea's patriachal system. However the downside with the Me Too movement is that it WILL also draw out all the drama queens who will bask in whatever limelight, to get their 3 min of attention whoring. And in Samantha Ko's case - imo, it's the latter.
@llwy12 Yes. Probably what looks like decent plots and characters which entices them back then the script turns out to be a load of crap. Also, an element of surprise for the veteran when he arrives at the station is that he will have to carry or babysit actors/actresses such Tony Hung, Fred Cheng, Grace Chan etr. I'm sure he will be secretly ecstatic with this arrangement......
@jimmyszeto Yes, The Good Old Times was a gangland epic...it's one of my favorite TVB series of all time and also the first TVB series I had ever watched so it will always hold a special place in my heart (though yes, part of my love for the series also has to do with it being one of Chow Yun Fat and DoDo Cheng's last collaborations as onscreen couple on television -- I'm obviously a huge fan of their pairing, lol). But aside from my personal preferences, that series was just so well-made all around -- from cast to script to overall production value, it's one of those series that we'll never get the chance to see again from TVB. Absolutely agree about Born Rich. To be honest though, I had also thought that Gallen Lo wouldn't want to return for a series after the epic fail of Born Rich, but look what ended up happening (he returned for The Provocateur). And don't forget that Ray Lui DID attend TVB's Anniversary Gala along with Simon Yam (and both were given some "fake" award as a means of "encouragement" to attend). During the earlier promotion of his latest movie, Simon Yam did mention that he is interested in filming another series for TVB and has been in talks with management, but is still waiting for the right script to come along. I wouldn't be surprised if Ray Lui was in the same boat as well (though, as I always do, I cringe at the thought of any veteran artists returning to TVB to film what is pretty much guaranteed to be crap ...)
@llwy12 Yes.The Good Old Times. I've seen a rerun a while ago. Another gangland epic if I remember correctly. Also, And Yet We Live where Ray Lui plays the villain. One of my fav Alex Man classics. As for Born Rich. It was brutal on how badly it failed. The plot although used many times before wasn't the problem. There were a lot of annoying support actor/actresses, all four main leads (Ray, Gallen,Kenix, Jaime were written to be very unlikable characters). The script was crap and boring and went downhill rapidly. Nancy Sit and Angelina Lo should never be anywhere near grand productions. They should be stuck on sitcoms. When compared Born Rich with the likes of well written classic 'At the Threshold of An Era', it is a real embarrassment. I'm sure Ray Lui will be very reluctant to come back to TVB after the experience of the Born Rich epic failure...
Not a big fan of Nic but I definitely admire his determination and work attitude. And this guy really have talent. Kudos
Ray looks so good. In fact he looks better now than when he was younger lo. Got a certain maturity
@looooooooooo Bosco? I thought he was with a Japanese model??? That model look different from Ron & Ray's taste woh. The Jap model looks more real and not so plastic compared to the other 2's taste in woman. Guess these 2 just never learn.
@nomad822 agreed with you definitely a Michelle in the making. Up up up to a bigger fish
@cutie777 lol, he always like them young. But at least this one looks better than Karena and her body is too.
@jimmyszeto not when after 8 competitions and the score is 7-1 lol
@jimmyszeto Ray is indeed legendary and was in so many great series back in the day! In addition to his roles in The Bund and Flying Fox, another favorite is The Good Old Times from 1981 (which reunited Chow Yun Fat with two of his most famous onscreen partners — Ray Lui and Dodo Cheng...absolutely “dream team” collaboration in my book!!!). In terms of villain roles, his performance in 1988’s And Yet We Live opposite Alex Man is the most classic as far as I’m concerned. Yea, Born Rich was so horrible, even the excellent cast couldn’t save it. As always, I prefer that the veteran artists don’t come back merely to do a “favor”for TVB...if the script is crap, then don’t bother returning and allowing TVB to negatively impact their careers.
@shimmerstars So true! That would be horrible if she actually two-timed him (though I wouldn’t be surprised given her track record). If the news of Leon becoming a father is true, then he will indeed be the last of the 4 Heavenly Kings to have children, though I find it interesting that 3 of the 4 of them either married or had children amidst much hoopla and/or controversy from the press. Jacky was the only one who managed to do it without much fanfare or controversy, though a lot of that had to do with him revealing his relationship already way early so for us fans (as well as for the press), him getting married and having kids was a natural and expected progression. Sure, every celebrity’s situation is different, but a lot of times, the more they try to intentionally “hide” stuff or try to sweep stuff under the rug, the worse it might be. Jacky is known for being low key and private so he usually won’t volunteer info on his own, but he openly acknowledges/addresses things if he’s asked about them, which is one reason why he’s been able to maintain such a good relationship with the press over the years.
@cutie777 Maybe that’s why Leon and Gaile were not compatible— he probably wanted to settle down and start a family while she didn’t want to be tied down at such a young age. To be honest, I never really believed that Leon and his ex Gaile would last, as their personalities and lifestyles were so completely opposite...
@nomad822 @sugarcane Yeh. I don't get this that people have been praising Karena for being mature just because of the way she spoke to the media. She had to portray this image in front of the media and Raymond's family after coming from a relatively lower class family. Would she have been so classy if selling roast pork with her dad? Also, apart from a few pics, we don't know anything about the new girlfriend. It's very premature to dismiss her with opinions such as 'less composed'...
@nomad822 Raymond's parents must have been quite worried about him as parents do after a breakup. It was particular painful since the girl has moved on to find someone much better hence rapidly introduce a woman to him Raymond ease the pain. Due to Raymond's immaturity, the parents couldn't set him up with a strong businesswoman to him.Next best thing...a lingerie model....
@sugarcane "The latter definitely appears more classy and composed" = in part due to her Ex bf's money. Karena was doing high-teas and lunches in Cova (where the HK society tai-tais hang out) - he funded the passport to venues for observation and thus improved grooming. 'Lessons' in taste and style when you see different echelons of society ... and money to fund a different classier wardrobe, change taste.. All of which she wouldn't have been exposed to if she didn't date a generous bf. Social climbing game. Michelle Reis is another very gd at this, and Carina Lau back then
"His parents arranged for the two to meet" = A lingerie model? Wow that must have been some devastating breakup for him. Karena Ng moved on to greener pastures and bigger fish. Unfortunately, he payed for her 'grooming lessons' (high teas at Cova, observing and learning how to dress-act being exposed to different strata of society) and in part her passport into bigger player fields. Michelle Reis in the making.
@littlefish It's a celebrity competition. It's for fun!
I love Nic but I’m not sure I can watch this, what if Nic lose >_<
@mi88 this Carina is 28.
Ooh looking forward. Hope this will be a really good sequel. (Mostly, sequels are boring) After watching "The Mermaid," I wanted to know what would happen to 鄧超 and 费霞. ^^
Nicholas bias XD Looking forward ;)
@bubbletea how old is Carina Zhang? Plz not younger >.>
Same hobby, same name, ron , ray & bosco sure have identical similiarities
Ray Lui.What a legend! Only requires one classic to become a TVB legend, though Flying Fox is his next best. I'm sure he is extremely cautious of another comeback since the last one 'Born Rich' was a flop. A good initial plot but the script turned out to be terrible with annoying character. Apparently, the lead actors tried to step in to improve the script but got arrogantly denied.
@cutie777 I think Samantha has already been as clear as she possibly be about this...
@bubbletea :) lol, PS is always such a hot topic because some people just don’t see it, and I do admit sometimes it’s really hard to see. Anyway, everyone has their view point, but people shouldn’t say the nay sayers do it because of their own insecurities. I do think they fix their nose, but whatever I’m not gonna sit here to argue yes or no lol. What I found though, is maybe because it’s so common to have PS, that the younger generations can’t tell true beauty? Like there are so many new Chinese actress that I look once and go: oh you are plastic. But many reckon they are stunningly beautiful -.- so maybe the abuse the celebs do with PS that cause the misconception/inability to spot real beauty? Anyway, I like YM enough but her face changes a lot more than say Ruby Lin, who still has her big nose but in a sense, it makes her face lovely? Because it’s natural and easy to the eye? Idk I believe some flaw are good to achieve that stunning beauty look?
@coralie it could be the money matter? It reminds me of Leo Ku he also married his assistant who’s older than him not sure by how many years.
@janet72 strange I know and not even his ex wife are being pregnant at that time when they’re still together?
@jayne poor thing so sorry to hear that. I don’t know but this day so many strange people around always have to be extra careful.
@bubbletea wait I’m confused about her skirt are being wet? How? Did that man spill drink on her skirt or was she sweating? She doesn’t explain how it got wet isn’t it?
@jayne thank goodness you and your sister were not harmed. That could have been worse. All your situations could have been disastrous. I cringe when I read what happened to Samantha Ko, especially the part when she said she discovered her clothes were wet. What a dirty pig for taking advantage of an innocent young girl on the train. Men like that should be given a special injection in the privates. I can give him one to keep it quiet for the rest of his miserable life. It would just be good for urinating.
@littlefish Too much botox. Case of Kim Kardashian.
@sugarcane I like the way you phrased that. You are so right. It could be too that some fans think that their idols were born with the goods looks and therefore did not get any PS. Those are the insecure people living in denial.
@coralie She has a more voluptuous body than Karena Ng, but the latter definitely appears more classy and composed. This current Carina looks rather generic, and I agree that she's likely a rebound, like you said. Raymond seems to have a thing for vain, vapid, and superficial looking women.
@littlefish No, you're right about them having PS. While I agree that Yang Mi was quite pretty to begin with, a simple Google search will reveal that the size of her nose has reduced significantly from her younger years. I was rather disappointed that she went as far as she had, to be honest. I think her nose was the only feature that seemed imbalanced, but it's obvious she wasn't satisfied and went on to tweak other things, too. I thought she looked best during her ROCH days. It has also been revealed that she had some teeth extracted, attributing to the slimmer jaw, but I think that was for medical reasons.
@bubbletea It's blatantly obvious to me that AB (as well as YM & HL) has had a myriad of surgeries, as well. Some people aren't as observant, or just don't have a keen eye for aesthetics, I guess.
@littlefish well said. Interesting points about Hawick and AB, very spot on
Surgery can add a lot of positives for its clients, except you are Priscilla Presley, Micheal Jackson or the other unfortunate clients. It is a known fact that a lot of celeb nvm s, be they singers, dancers, hosts, actors, actresses and models get PS. It has become a legit excuse to get work done because of their careers. My grief is when they deny, pull laughable public stunts, and worst of all, sue people for speaking or printing the truth about their PS. They know they can get away with it by fooling some of the people, or threatening to, or suing others.
@bubbletea Of the 2 girls I have met who have 'fixed their jaws', one had a very round unattractive face but after the operation became stunning. She managed to nab a decent foreigner boyfriend very soon afterwards. The 2nd girl, her family had very similar longish jaws but to be fair to her she had a few physical problems with it.After the operation, she looked very attractive and looked different to the rest of her family. The similarity of both girls is that both now have very pointy jaws and obviously gained value from it whether it is more opportunities or more praises in life....
@lyu310 I really don't think Bernice is a gold digger. She is a hugely ambitious woman who has a strong interest in business which is why people who share common interests are very likely to be businessmen. She isn't like one of those uneducated girls who are aiming well above their level of trying to grab a rich bachelor. Some members of the 'Nonsense Club' might be in this category....
Many years ago, as my parents say, talent was something that came from within. Now it is men having to have a six pack, get plastic surgery and wear makeup. Women have to get boob jobs, facial plastic surgery, wear a pound of makeup and dress like skanks. There are those who get PS to further their careers which put a lot of pressure on others who are willing to work hard, while looking natural. They experience the pressure of.....look as they do, to get a shot at their careers, or get plastic surgery too...... It is sad when actors and actresses enhance their bodies with PS, to get an advantage on others. Of course sponsors and audiences love a gorgeous face and a fantastic body, talent be damned. Yes, there are surgically enhanced sculpted bodies. That is not playing fair at all. There are so many men and women who would not even get a second glance if they were trying to break into acting, hosting or singing today, due to their physical appearance, not for a lack of talent.
Honestly tired of the media labeling her a gold digger when she's worked hard to get where she is today. Learned Chinese (Canto and Mandarin), has 7 dogs of her own, started a wine business, etc. So what if she dates someone with money? It is not the only quality. If she dated a poor man, you would say he is "eating soft rice," so the media will never be satisfied b/c their goal is to cause trouble. Frankly, if this is what being a gold digger is all about, I want to be labeled one too. And she hasn't had THAT many failed relationships. She's had 3 confirmed relationships since joining the industry and had a boyfriend before winning the pageant. And relationships are about two people getting together, so don't treat that news like she should be the one ashamed.
@bubbletea I'm not going to mention Angelababy since I don't know much about her plus and she did win a court case so I have to use my words carefully. If anyone is using enhancements to provide an uneven playing field to their advantage then that is a form of 'cheating' and also a bad figurehead of influence for the youngsters who look up to their idols. Although there are plenty of money and fans out there, gaining an advantage unethically is preventing other actor/actresses from potentially receiving the major roles, sponsors and fans had it been a level playing field. In all honesty, just like the chinese stage names used in the past and the stupid english names in recent years used to gain advantages; plastic surgery is the trend as a shortcut to fame. We are seeing a lot more lookalikes onscreen. This sends the wrong message out to youngsters who will be hoping to enter the entertainment industry in the future.....
Has anyone realized her Chinese name is so similar to Ron's ex Viann Zhang 張馨予? lol She almost looks like Laurinda Ho in that picture but she looks like other celebrities too in other photos I saw. A bit heavy on the makeup. But yes, definitely she has similar style to Mavis Pan. The age gap is not too bad this time.
I know it is off topic, but It is quite bemusing when one cannot see that Angelababy was a very ugly duckling who became a beautiful swan. Despite the PS, I don't find her gorgeous, but that look was achieved with a darn lot of surgical help. If two girls can fix their jaws who are not rich, and become beautiful, imagine what a celebrity can do. I know kids who were not that great looking when they were small, but they became good looking as they reached their late teen years. AB was already an adult while she was still butt hurt ugly, . There is no way, and at that stage in her life that her looks could naturally change, and change so drastically. Of course she pulled the stunt because she knew people are brainwashed and are sheep. As we can see, it worked. However, it did not work for all, as like I said before, some of us have a working brain, a smart working brain.
Wow, don't know her actual age but she looks like she could be his daughter in that pic! Also surprised that she is very plain looking as opposed to his ex's. Leon will be the last of the 4 heavenly kings to become a father!
@bubbletea I know at least 2 girls personally who fixed their jaws and they became attractive instantaneously. They weren't rich. It is an easy operation to have. It's quite unfair that an average or below average women can suddenly turn into stunners and become goddesses in the eyes of the audience. Their false appearance assists them in achieving huge financial gains and recognition. Quite unethical and unfair on others who have relied on their true self. Can compare this to a drugs cheat in sport...
@rika Yeh. She is exceeding all Leon's expectations. A 'pleasure' of an employee to have....
@coralie I agree. What might be suitable today might become a problem in the future...
@9moons you talk about insecurity and denial. The only insecure people living in denial are the fans who believe Angelababy and that plastic surgeon, who I believe got paid off. Any person with an ounce of intelligence, and an ounce of common sense, cause intelligence and common sense are two different things, know that AB had a lot of work done. Even if a person is obese, with a large face, when that person becomes skinny, the chin will NEVER, EVER become longer, never. Have you seen how much longer AB's chin has become? That can only be achieved through surgical enhancement. That is why those who are smart are not buying the con. They are not living in denial, and are secure enough to speak up. They are using their common sense and intellect. Thank God there are still some people, and not all are sheeple
@elizabeth I agreed with you. I also find older man more attractive especially when I was in my 20's. Maybe I was younger then and with less experience so I get overwhelmed by someone older who seems so much wiser than myself
@jimmyszeto Don't forget the big fat bonus and even bigger monthly paychecks she will be getting.
@elizabeth I said "most," not all. I want to clarify and emphasize that point. And it also depends on how much of an age gap there is. Over a decade is too much for my personal taste; yours may be entirely different. And maturity and age aren't always positively correlated, so younger men can definitely still be as mature if not more mature than some men that are even older. So in that case, why date someone so much older? Of course, everyone has their prerogatives in dating preferences; just because I'm not attracted to older men doesn't mean some women aren't. I just don't think majority of the ones that do like men significantly older than them are in it for the right reasons. And you (not 'you' personally, but in general) have to also think of the repercussions of finding someone much older than yourself. In 30 years time, will both of you be at the same stage in life? Especially these women that are marrying men two decades older than themselves. When they're 50, their husbands will be in their 70s and much more incapable of enjoying their lives at a 50s level.
@cutie777 Looking once may be a reflex, but leering and rubbing are a different matter.
@rika It's fair to say that she has done her job very well. Definitely going to get an 'exceeding' in her appraisal at the end of year review.
I just hope it won't turn out like " A Clear Midsummer Night". That was horrible and cliche. I just hope they put more effort into the plot for " The Prosecutor".
@coralie I don't think it will be very wise of him to call them both 'BB' since it will give him reminders of his ex. Maybe come up with another soppy nickname of some sort....
@coralie Why should age be a matter for a couple to be together, as long as both are legal and not homewreckers? Speaking from experience, I have always been attracted to older men. It is not intentional but I tend to get along better with people older than me. I find that we are more on the same page in terms of intelligence and maturity. People have set me up with men around my own age but they tend to be more self-centred and not as accommodating. And I find some men really mature much later than women of the same age, and it can get frustrating when they are still trapped in their teenage party mentality and I just want to settle down. Financially, I am pretty independent with my own career and assets, so I am not attracted to specific men for money. Though having a partner who is financially stable makes less stress in life. So goosebumps or not, some people do prefer older partners because they just feel more at ease. Not all of them are golddiggers. But that issue aside, whether Wing is truly with Leon for him or his money, only time will tell. Good luck to them both.
"As long as her work was done, Wing did not always have to show up at the office. Wing did not have to report to a manager, and often went straight to Leon’s home for business meetings at odd hours." Sounds like the definition of her "work" is at odds with the kind of work other ordinary employees are hired to do. Well, regardless of the kind of "work" she was supposed to do, it definitely gave him pleasure and lowered his company taxes. Killed two birds with one stone.
If Shu Qi's mom thinks she was born ugly, then she needs to look at the mirror herself or get her eyes checked since SHE is the one who chose whom to f**k. You don't put the blame on your kids for being ugly or stupid. His or her genes came from yourself after all.
@jimmyszeto yes, agreed. at least age-wise, he's not skirt-chasing after teens. that's a wiser choice than his last ex. but we still need to learn more about her maturity. idk about the names; the media calls Karena by her English name sometimes (Karena bb). so I wouldn't be surprised if Raymond does too -- for both haha.
On a side note it would be nice to have Raymond and Ron interacting together on screen like Twin of Brothers again considering how they are best friends. It's a bit quick how Raymond found another girlfriend imo. But let us see how things go for those two over time. Age gap is still noticeable but not as bad as the gap between him and Karena.
@cutie777 Don't be an apologist for perverted freaks thanks. There are also cases where women get sexually harassed even though they don't wear revealing attire.
I don't understand why women flock to men who are so much older than them...o.O. I really don't. Any reason to date these men when there's a significant age gap still gives me goosebumps. You know most of them are not in it for the feels.
@coralie If Carina is 28 then that is a improvement on Raymond's part. However, we do not how much of an improvement since we do not know the extent of this lady's maturity. It would be mistake would be but assuming that both have found new partners now, I assume they would have split up for a decent length of time. I doubt the similar sounding name makes much of a difference since it's highly unlike that Raymond calls either of them by their English names anyway...
@m0m0 I think although Alex took Lawrence by surprise, there was a certain element of control. Alex did not go all out to beat up Lawrence otherwise that punch would have knocked him out. Look at the weight difference. Alex would have crushed Lawrence and the rest of the cast would not have been able to hold him back. The choking part though, I think Alex did go a bit too far and underestimated his own strength....
@jimmyszeto seriously, he was lucky alex didn't push his head on the concrete. that was the most dangerous part of all. my, those kicks and the part of the floor, can't even see the face, couldn't they use a double or have done something else. those kicks look like they hurt alot.
well at least this time he's wizen up a little. she's 28. good age for marriage, if that's his end goal. I did some digging and she's a lingerie model. personally I don't see her as a great successor to karena ng. if anything, I think this is more like a rebound for Raymond. I mean, even the name is similar...how can his current girl not feel...weird? I'd be so insecure if it was me. in any case, Raymond doesn't care anymore what we think lol. he's detached from HK and based mainly in China. and he's not big enough in China to make a dent in people's opinion of him, least of all a HK-originated woman like Karena.
i respect alex as a very good actor but fighting for real to create a decent scene is a way to far. espesially without telling the one that will be hit for real. imagine if every actor doing the same like him how many injuries that can cause just for the sake of a decent scenes.
@cutie777 that's an unfair statement to make. Just because she reveals a bit of cleavage for work, it is not an invitation for perverts to touch or even leer at her. Don't blame the victim.
Sounds like uncle Leon got trapped by the oldest trick in the book. Never heard of using protection huh Leon? Men like him shld always be extra careful to use protection otherwise they shld just abstain and control their urge or DIY.
@bubbletea it's carina lau Kar ling
@9moons lol, my bad, my PS is more the Botox injection. Hawick’s nose changed slightly since his TVB days. Anyway, I like Yang Mi enough, So maybe she didn’t have PS, however Hawick does have a lot of Botox. His face skin is always unnaturally tight, and his crying scene, no wrinkle to be seen, like I said rain on rock. And for Angelababy, agree to disagree, I don’t trust those doctor certificate. Anyway, idm a bit of nip tuck as long as they don’t go “I’m all natural” and can’t really act :) for Hawick, his acting always feel a bit unnatural or superficial, maybe because of the Botox, but possibly that why he’s going down hill.
@janet72 hahha! Would be scandalous if she was two-timing! Yeah Leon probably feel's left out that out of the 4 Heavenly King's, he's the last to become a father.
@littlefish I think your statement about Yang Mi is unfounded. Yang Mi's physical features appear the same as her childhood picture, verified able all over the net. Also, Hawick's appearance didn't change enough to warrant such accusation. Differences in appearance can be due to age, weight change, cosmetic makeup, camera angle and professional photoshop. Your post reminds me of Angela baby, Yang Yǐng as a example of public paranoia and insecurity. Despite having a court ordered hospital examination and having won the case against the plastic surgery clinic that misused her image, insecure netizens are still denial. Simply, they have a hard time believing that there are people naturally more beautiful than themselves. Note, I am not saying celebrities don't have P.S., but it is also possible that they haven't. Also, I am not hardcore against artist that had work done. Korean actress Hwang Jung-eum, Kdrama secret drama, is one of my favorite actresses. She acknowledged she had work done and most people that follow her dramas acknowledged she can act better than most actress in east and west. Personally, I haven't seen one actress in TVB that can match her level of acting, the extent she can bring out emotions.
Filming esp. dramas is hard work. We see the glamour and not the blood and sweat. Slowing down for health reasons is practical. What is the use of millions if you cannot spend it. He could have been a producer like many successful actors... Lois, Andy??
Time to have an heir for his fortune just like the rest of his peers.
reminds me of Mavis Pan
@cutie777 thanks. He does seem to like them young and with that name. This one is a little bit more meaty, but barely, lol.
@pocky Never Wong’sname is so unique, I had to look it up to see who he is. Turns out he is a professional tutor at a tutoring center in Hong Kong. I think his name is a good fit for his profession, as it sounds like he is “never wrong”.
@cutie777 This incident happened when Samantha was only a high school student. Doubt her outfit was anymore revealing than other girls at the time. A woman’s attire should not be the reason for blame in a sexual harassment situation. The offender is the man who takes advantage of a crowded train or other easy access situation to get a grope or look. It is the man’s lack of control and his lust that are the problems. He has a choice to look away. Predators always choose easy victims. Schoolgirls are often a target because they are young and too scared to speak up. When I was 4 years old, I was waiting on the street with my 12 year old sister for our mom to get off work. It was broad daylight with other pedestrians. A Chinese man in his 20s walked up to us and asked for directions. Since I was so short, I saw his zipper fly was undone. Something strange was poking out. My sister and I were too young to understand, but we felt something was not right and went inside my mom’s work place. Only years later did I realize the man was an exhibitionist and that he had an erection at the time. His zipper was undone intentionally and it was obscene. I also had two other uncomfortable situations from strangers in high school. I was alone by myself and too young and scared to cry for help. I live in New York City area and crowded trains are the norm. In the winter, the layers help protect me from feeling uncomfortable being too close to a stranger. In the summer with the thinner clothes, it’s always awkward. Have to hold my purse and angle my elbow a certain way so that no one can stand uncomfortably close. If there is a choice, I always stand next to a woman and not a man. I completely understand Samantha’s fear and disgust. We can’t go back in time to the time when we scared little girls, but we learn to protect ourselves and our daughters better one day.
@cutie777 This incident happened when Samantha was only a high school student. Doubt her outfit was anymore revealing than other girls at the time. A woman’s attire should not be the reason for blame in a sexual harassment situation. The offender is the man who takes advantage of a crowded train or other easy access situation to get a grope or look. It is the man’s lack of control and his lust that are the problems. He has a choice to look away. Predators always choose easy victims. Schoolgirls are often a target because they are young and too scared to speak up. When I was 4 years old, I was waiting on the street with my 12 year old sister for our mom to get off work. It was broad daylight with other pedestrians. A Chinese man in his 20s walked up to us and asked for directions. Since I was so short, I saw his zipper fly was undone. Something strange was poking out. My sister and I were too young to understand, but we felt something was not right and went inside my mom’s work place. Only years later did I realize the man was an exhibitionist and that he had an erection at the time. His zipper was undone intentionally and it was obscene. I also had two other uncomfortable situations from strangers in high school. I was alone by myself and too young and scared to cry for help. I live in New York City area and crowded trains are the norm. In the winter, the layers help protect me from feeling uncomfortable being too close to a stranger. In the summer with the thinner clothes, it’s always awkward. Have to hold my purse and angle my elbow a certain way so that no one can stand uncomfortably close. If there is a choice, I always stand next to a woman and not a man.
surprise suprise lol Uncle Ray love young hot babe.
@bubbletea you’re funny I like that.
@shimmerstars she sure has a way with men. if the baby is leon's, he would be happy like mad to be a father.
@cutie777 very shocking...just not too long ago, I read about leon and his assistant together...now she is 6 months pregnant!!!
@llwy12 I know right?
@llwy12 definitely agree. In this fast-paced online age, people’s attention spans are short-lived and they move on to the next news item quickly enough.
@shimmerstars hahaha as long as she is good on bed what. Looking at the video they went to ocean park the girl carina is obedient and soft girl type. Hehe. And so obvioud raymond jus want to make karena angry and find a better body girl than her name also sound similar. Hehehe. But i like this carina more than that gold digger karena!!
@cutie777 I honestly hope that the media will leave Bernice alone now that she has admitted to the relationship. After all the “hell” they put her through since the split with Moses many years ago, it’s obvious Bernice has been trying to stay away from the limelight as much as she can in recent years so they should just let her be. Obviously she’s happy and it’s not like she is doing anything wrong – sure, some people will still probably call her a gold-digger due to the guy being rich but that’s just people being ignorant and irrational (and probably people who never liked her anyway)…I mean, she’s been away from the limelight for so long, how do they know if she’s dated other guys who weren’t rich during that period of time? I’m not a fan, but I’m happy for her and also hope it works out this time!
I have no respect for her. Clearly she's chasing fame and fortune by trying to hook up with famous stars. She knows how to work her way into his home that's for sures. No idea what Leon see's in her and he better do a pre-nup if he plans to marry her.
I hope it works out for Bernice. She's had so many failed relationships.
Is she a mainland model? Never heard of her. She looks very "plastic" hahaha
@jimmyszeto Alex has always been a very serious actor though so it’s not surprising. Dodo said that for the ending scene (the famous “So What!” scene, lol), Alex was actually the one who spent all night writing that scene after they had both gotten off work at 2am….she said that Alex called her up that morning letting her know he finished the scene and wanted to read it to her – she asked if he could do it over the phone (so she could continue to sleep afterwards, since it was like only 6am, lol) but he said no, he had to read it to her in person so they could go over it and work out any kinks if need be before they actually film it...so she had to go all the way back to the studio to go over the scene with him. But she said she’s glad they went over the scene beforehand because she said that she might have responded differently if the first time she experienced the scene was when they filmed it. That type of seriousness also wasn’t just limited to The Feud Between Two Brothers. The slapping scene that Dodo described was actually in the series The Price of Growing Up from 1987 (which reunited Alex, Dodo, and Kathy Chow, though the villain role this time was taken over by Francis Ng). She also said there were a few scenes where Alex had to get drunk and throw up – those were real as well and she was amazed at his ability to just throw up like that without any warning when the scene called for it. Stephen Chow had also said something similar back when he filmed The Justice of Life with Alex. I remember Alex saying in an interview recently that he is turning to business and filming less due to health issues. Everyone knows that he has diabetes (which is why his body always looks so bloated) but in general, he said that his health isn’t what it once was and filming too much tires him out. It IS a shame given his talent, but definitely understandable since his taking care of his health should be priority.
@cutie777 lol, you said exactly what I was going to say. I guess I have to say something else. BOSCO WONG...."hi Raymond, how is Karena/Carina doing?" RAYMOND LAM.... Which one, you mean the one with the C or the K,?"
Wow this is shocking!!
Well if she’s afraid of sex harassment then don’t wear so sexy otherwise of course guys will kept an eyes on your body especially boobs or butts part.
I’m sure lots people out there might think she’s a gold digger hopefully it works out for her this time.
Lol. Another Carina and another young chick again?
@jayne That’s the frustrating part – Joey herself beating around the bush….I would think she is above that, given her status and such. I can understand Wilfred doing it because that’s how he is, but Joey knowingly “supporting” him in the effort is disappointing (if that’s indeed the case of course). Even if they are just “taking a break” and not really breaking up, I don’t see why she can’t just come right out and say that, given she said earlier in that interview that she prefers people not to dwell too much on her love life. I’m sure she knows by now how this industry works, especially in today’s age of social media where info/gossip/rumors travel super fast – the more you leave things vague and up in the air, the more people are going to speculate and talk about it…if she doesn’t want people dwelling on her love life, then she should take the initiative to close the loop….
That was probably unheard of back in the day that scenes are done for real especially for a series. I’m sure in movies today, more and more sacrifices are made for the quality of the movie. It was unlucky for Lawrence that the plastic bin actually hit his head. The scene and reactions are very important because of the brutality of the murder of their father by Lawrence. The problems with a lot of the fighting scenes in the past are that they look so fake e.g.watch Deric attacking Law Lok Lam in ‘Blood of Good and Evil’. It was certainly not fun for Lawrence but do admire Alex’s approach and how serious he took acting. It’s a shame that after all this dedication, he turned to business....
@llwy12 If this is a publicity stunt to promote Wilfred's concert, it would indeed make fans lose respect. Watching the interview clip, I was feeling a bit impatient. I don't like artistes who beat around the bush with questions. I think if Joey gave more closure over the issue, people may talk about it for a little bit more and then just move on.
This scene seems very brutal, especially the choking part. Although it may produce more realistic reactions by launching a surprise attack on Lawrence, I think there were no safety controls if Alex got carried away further. Lawrence's head was just on the concrete; he could have gotten a head injury.
Gee, I did not know some scenes were real..is that why they have real rape scenes?
@jayne That’s what I think too but honestly that makes things worse given Wilfred’s track record of “using” other artists and/or situations to promote himself. It can’t be a coincidence that these breakup rumors are coming out so close to Wilfred’s concert – not only that, both of them are being/have been very “coy” with the press, neither admitting to nor denying it…by keeping the public “guessing”, it guarantees that the issue will continue to be “in the news”. I wouldn’t be surprised if they truly did break up but are waiting until after Wilfred’s concert to announce it…. I’m also not surprised why Joey’s friends and fans don’t like her dating Wilfred. If the above is true, it makes her look bad (plus all the other negative media stuff that has been attached to Wilfred over the years). I personally never liked Joey but had a certain amount of respect for her as an artist — now with this little fiasco, that little respect is out the window....
Just included a video clip of Joey's chat with the press over breakup rumors. I was confused by Joey's easy smiles while chatting with the press. Wilfred seemed too happy while playing soccer. Not the type of demeanor you would expect from a couple who just broke off their 5-year relationship. Maybe they just decided to take a break and did not completely split up yet?
@mike thanks for pointing this out. Will revise the article.
Yes, Wing was showing up for business meetings alright. They were getting down to business, and made a nine months business merger, lol. I hope Wing does not leave Leon for the next celeb she works with. Seems like she falls for all the men she is working with.
It won't be the first time Jack Ma (馬雲) is in a movie. He starred in 功守道 last year. It was such a weird movie with all the biggest Asian kung fu stars in it but having 馬雲 as the main action hero.
@jimmyszeto Saw some HK ad with person name Never Wong.
@coralie i totally agree. it's brave for her to put up a pic like that. even ordinary people get worried when their pics get posted online -- no, it's not a matter of privacy, just that they don't look good enough.
@littlefish Babyjohn or Torres?
@msxie0714 any of those are still better than Angelababy. I like him, over the years, he has consistently show how good he is at supporting :) there is an honest feel about his performance? Good to know he’s like that outside, too
@purplepanda774 yea, her fan base admires her a great deal because of her origin. And I agree about her project, because of it, I’m very wary trying any of her project. And idk how PA make it so big either, in term of everything is like 100% worse than 3310, yet it’s almost the same level of success? And this is coming from me, who did not watch the first 15ep of 3310, I actually watched it like how the book meant to be accidentally. Didn’t know until after I’ve done it, got interested and checked out the book
A Man Utd jacket. This guy goes even further down my estimations!
@coralie Absolutely shocking that Raymond is getting useless roles one after another. The apple colada the worst one yet and alongside Eliza too. Waste of a likeable guy...
@jimmyszeto Ruco has over two decades of experience. I would actually put him in the same category as Raymond Wong in that they can consistently pull off supporting characters, but haven't had very good projects recently. I don't know if and when Ben will ever get there. Not counting on it though.
@msxie0714 I remember the days on the forums of Myolie vrs Tavia. There were a lot more supporters of Tavia’s acting even then. And also who was better looking, Raymond or Ron and most agreed it was Ron. That was before Raymond changed his face....
@funnlim yes it depends on how her mom treats her. some parents/children relations are like friends they just say everthing to each other. but deep in their hearts they really love their children. but to me i would rather choose encouraching words than words that could reach the opposite effect. it just depends on the character itself.
@coralie In a few years time, Ben will be worshipped here like Ruco once was and still is....
@lewismcchan Apple isnt that good though. I actually think people are watching threesome and not because its on the sunday, its because the story is good. Lots of hype in HK forums about the drama.
@kolo its actually very good average for a weekend drama. Seeing that a 5 day drama is getting around 22pts. Its so close.
@bubbletea Agreed! I’m happy for Linda. Will miss her though
@jimmyszeto same for constant comparisons about celebrities. netizens and entertainment media have the worst habits of asking who's prettier or handsome, which drives up rivalry and wars between fans.
@littlefish Absolutely agree with you on that count. Regardless of her acting ability, I think it can be agreed upon that she has terrible taste in picking projects. PA was an absolute mess... I wonder how it ever reached so many billions of views As for her fanbase, I'm guessing it does have to do with what you said, the Chinese dream of making it big. People probably relate to her? idk
@kaykay408 but using the literal translation as an english name sounds weird. wonder if there's someone out there named strongcountry lee.
@purplepanda774 dragged her? It’s true she has no training, she’s like the representation of a Chinese dream? Making it big without training, education or connection. I think character wise, she’s quite amicable, and I agree her acting is above the current young actress out there atm, however, her series isn’t that great as it cut out to be? I watched princess agent, love the first 1/3 of it, then found it’s a total waste of time for the rest of it, let not mention the lousy ending. That series has so many problem, at one stage, they don’t even bother blurring out the body double’s face. And LGX has a beer belly to match his body double? Lol
The problem with Hawick is that even though they both have the same amount of PS, at least she can emote well, he doesn’t. His crying face is like rain on rock.... and just look at Brangelina, filmed a movie together and divorce pretty much straight after, so if a couple have problem, there will be problem, a movie/drama won’t fix it
praying that's photoshop because if it isn't... health is always most important
@littlefish in general, I would say that most c-entertainment actresses that are popular right now are weak in acting (angelababy and dilireba, for instance) and are only leads in dramas because of the fanbases they command. with the current standard, I might even say that ZLY is one of the better actresses. I completely agree with you that the fanbases are overprotective and obsessive as well, but it's the same case in nearly all fanbases, in all countries. I heard that ZLY was poor and never had professional training (or something?), so people dragged her and then her fanbase made it worse by dragging other people too. It's insane out there haha.
Who knows. Maybe it is all hush hush or it was just a speculative drama afterall? I thought Li Xiaolu is suing the 'people' who started the rumours?
@cutie777 I can still oogle online. LOL
@mangotango Lol. Too bad he’s all Tavia!!
@bubbletea thanks. I think she’s pretty accept her lip are little too big otherwise she’s fine and even she’s younger she looks fine too. I don’t know what her mom is thinking calling her own daughter ugly unbelievable!! At least she’s prettier than Joey Yung, Samantha Ko, Tavia Yeung and Kate Tsui.
it's sad that only broadcast on the weekend. i do really enjoy the show.
i am not a fan of them but do ship them. Hope they do stay together.
It's very hard to get a divorce with a child/children involve. Even with that reason - if I were him, I would still divorce this woman. When she pulled that shameful stunt - I don't think she thought for a second the damage it would do to her daughter & her husband.
Eh, her drama with HZT was bad. Didn’t Hawick slow down for YM to get back in action? He was active when she was pregnant. Now, she’s back to filming.
Sooo sexy. (Jaw drops)
Have to admit, they do look cute together :)
I am not a fan of divorce, so I am happy when couple can work out their differences. However in some instances, sadly, divorce is the only answer. I am happy if the news about Yang Mi and Hawick Lau is just rumors. What is pathetic is the notion that the fans want to believe that a couple filming together can dispel a rift in a marriage. The things one reads, lol. One does have to wonder if Hawick was craving some meat and went to the meat store wink*, lol. By the looks of Yang Mi, she looks so frail and anorexic that most men would not find her looks to be sexy or appealing. Woman needs a slice of pizza and a milkshake.
@llwy12 Agree. Even if the breakup false they can just continue the relationship for a few years without responding to questions. I suppose Wilfred has been around for so long that any chance of him making it big has already gone. Will try any method to get his name out there...
@jimmyszeto So Joey attended an event today and of course, reporters asked her about the breakup with Wilfred. She was evasive again – thanked reporters for their concern, stated that their focus right now is on work, she has 2 albums to record while Wilfred has his concert so they are both busy, etc. The reporter kept digging and she answered each question with a vague response. Then the reporter straight out said that some people think the breakup rumors were leaked to help promote Wilfred’s concert, to which Joey responded – “Do you guys really think that works?” Well… ok, Joey, so here’s the thing….I personally had no clue that Wilfred was doing a concert until this news of a rumored split came out…and then, when we started discussing it in the comments, I got curious and actually went searching for information about Wilfred’s concert online and now I know more than I ever cared to know about his concert. I’m assuming many of the “ordinary” (meaning not Joey or Wilfred fans, or anyone associated with them) people in this forum (at least the ones who commented on this thread) are probably in the same boat as me (feel free to say so if I’m wrong)… So to answer your question Joey….um, yes, it DOES work! I’m actually convinced more than ever now that the breakup rumors were indeed “leaked” at this precise moment to help promote Wilfred’s concert. Now of course, it could still be true that the 2 of them indeed broke up (or will be breaking up in the near future), but that doesn’t matter anymore because the timing already told the story in this case…
they shouldve put the Apple series on the wknd time slot and Mandy series on the regular basis it a funny comedy I actually enjoy watching it!!!
@jimmyszeto @littlefish @funnlim Very true! I agree that it’s hard for us to judge without knowing how the words were put across and also the family environment as a whole (and also the cultural environment as pointed out earlier). It could be that Shu Qi grew up in a loving family environment so she understands the intention of her mom criticizing her like that and can therefore take it as constructive criticism to help her grow stronger. Everyone’s situation is different though….in Shu Qi’s case, it looks like no damage was done so that’s the most important part I guess….
@coralie Agreed and well-said! Also, to funn’s point, the intention of the criticism is indeed important, but so is explaining why that criticism is being made because to me, criticism isn’t truly constructive unless it’s backed up and/or explained. Saying something like “you’re the ugliest child I’ve ever seen” is a straight insult and unconstructive (unless the person follows it up with further explanation or basis for that comment)….in comparisons, saying something more along the lines of “stop coiling your hair like that because it stretches your face and makes you look ugly” is more appropriate and constructive, plus less likely that it will erode the child’s confidence. At the end of the day, it boils down to having open, healthy communication lines between parent and child, which unfortunately is something most families struggle with nowadays.
So sad HK celeb girls chasing rich and powerful men and its acceptable news everyday. But on the flip side, its not acceptable when its HK celeb male chasing rich and powerful girl.
@m0m0 She may not be starving herself but she is definitely in a diet everyday to stay slim.
Him used to have amateur bodybuilder physique. Guess HK wasn't too receptive of that so he has chosen to become slim and toned instead.
@funnlim a lot of damage has been done to a lot of children who experienced similar verbal abuse like what Shu Qi did. They have learned to live with it, but it does not mean they have not been affected. This kind of verbal abuse is not praise, never was and never will be. Is this why Chinese parents are so cold towards their children,?. Is that why the suicide rate is so high ?. Is that why a lot of modern Chinese teens feel they can't share their thoughts with their parents,?. It must be. You could argue that that was how it was back in the day but, abuse is abuse , no matter how you slice it.
@m0m0 nancy wu admitted in a previous interview that she is naturally thin. i remember reading that article in jaynestars.
@littlefish I agree with you. It would be unfair to judge Shu Qi's mother without knowing how she put her words across. She could be just playing it down to teach her daughter to be humble...
@funnlim agree :) it’s really depending on the angle, makeup, lighting and what facial expression she pulls. She’s a selective beauty for me, has to be certain shots, certain angle for me to find her dazzling, otherwise she’s just ok.
@msxie0714 while I understand the sentiments, you also need to look at how your parents generally treat you. If they dote on you, but just say those things when there are guests praising you, then you should understand that your parents are trying to be modest and rein you in, so you don’t run around think you are all that. And I have to agree with Funn, it helps her grow thick skin, and so even though she didn’t do it out of love, but she still loves you, and it helps you be a strong person, then it is not a bad thing. As a matter of fact, it possibly helps Shu Qi a lot in trying to work hard rather than just based on her look to get roles. My son is gorgeous according to everyone, but I’m still saying that it will not be the case for the future as a reply after thanking them for complimenting. As I don’t want him to grow up, and have ppl say things like: you use to be so pretty, what happen now? Trust me, it hurts more lol.
i always think that there's always another goal once you reach your target. getting there is a challenge, so is maintenance. that's why staying in shape is a lifestyle not some diet trend. i think nancy wu should share some of her secrets on staying so slim. i bet that does not include starving oneself. young girls these days could benefit from that
@m0m0 well with that styling, she does look like she’s 18-20. But yea, those legs are seriously unhealthy.
@mimi8 I’m on the same boat as you. Try to watch her show and found it’s pretty boring and over the top with ridiculous scenes, end up just FF or not finish. While she’s not bad, she’s not as great as her fans make it out to be. Unlike Tavia, who initially I’m meh about, but with each drama, she just made me crazily in love with her and I’m a girl. She totally got me with the way she does emotional scenes (and yes, I can ignore her nose lol). ZLY fans are also pretty angry bunch. Back to this drama: one - for a movie, it is good, love both actress in the movie, the petite one is the Chinese version of Tavia for me, she’s natural and make you watch her. To have this movie turn into such a long drama, it is just bad, draggy, full of cliche. I would skip it, doesn’t matter who will be in it. Watch the movie, and appreciate it and seriously... stop remaking movie into drama >_>
@littlefish Don't worry. It's still far from being as good as Legal Mavericks....
Ooh better check this one out
@coralie very great points you brought up. No celebrity is perfect. I agree with you. A lot of folk had this silly notion that celebs are perfect and should be worshipped. I say it was brave of Grace to post that make up free selfie The reason.... Fans have this physical perfect image of their idols. To post such a selfie could disappoint a lot of fans and Grace could lose a lot of her fan base. We all know that fans are the ones who keep these celebs in the business. Yes Grace is brave to to that. A 'll so like you said, do it before the paps post am unflattering photo of her.
Threesome is good; Ben still sucks. Not as sucky as before, but still a sucker.
If Apple-colada is broadcast on every Sunday, it is likely that it will get a 19.9 rating. It is not the problem of Mandy's drama. It is the problem of the day.
@jimmyszeto the thing is, celebrities don't like exposing themselves looking like death or plain jane because it ruins their image. and papz love to bring up ugly photos of them anytime they can or when the celebrity is down in the dumps. so that's why it's brave of her to put it up herself when there's no obligation to. you can say it's for exposure...but there's lots you can do aside from doing bare face to gain that exposure. speaking of which, people should do a #flawsandall movement so it highlights the imperfections each and everyone of us has in order to counter this PS'd frenzy Hollywood has. it's damaging to the psyche to see perfect celebrities all the time.
@coralie I don't think it is particularly brave and she is releasing the picture to gain a bit of exposure. She does not look that great without make up so it might be a bit of failed mission. I guess it shows us that celebrities are not perfect...
Parents who directly compare their children with each other or with children of their friends are the worst. It puts unnecessary pressure on them during a time when confidence is important and they are still looking to choose their path in life....
@msxie0714 but his name really literally is "evergreen".
I think constructive criticism is a good thing. With things like looks, though, unless it's something you can actively change (like weight, though even that is a sensitive topic), there's no point in criticizing. But with or without family disapproval of their kids' looks, the media has its own way of effing people's opinions of themselves. So either way, you're effed if you do and effed if you don't. But there is some value in openly confronting these flaws. First step of acceptance is admitting there is a problem. If not fixable, then accept. It builds tolerance for criticism of these imperfections when it's done by family over time. Family who voice their criticism out loud sometimes have good intentions (though most of the time I think they're just bitter about their own lives and have nothing better to do than criticize others' kids.)
@sport3888 girl...calm down. I don't know anything about joey's relationship with denise because it was all hearsay when they were rumored to be a couple back then. we as outsiders especially don't know whether those rumors are true (unless you have insider info.) joey never publically came out to admit it either. she did announce her relationship with Wilfred though, so I just go by that. if her and denise really had a relationship for that long, well, that's a shame too.
@littlefish yep agreed. I still don't find shu qi particularly gorgeous or beautiful, but she's agreeable and not a bad actress.
It's much harder to bare her real face if she wasn't married, I think. But still, good on her to do something outside the usual standards of beautiful, PSed and glamorous celebrity image.
Didn’t realize she’s that thin
Isn’t that the case with many artists? You have loyal and obsessive fans. You also have anti-fans lol
@kolo Maybe that’s good for a weekend slot?
Why does she look so different now like her face changed idk, but Ik for sure she’s really unhealthy and teenager really that’s such a stretch for her age. At most a young adult she’s not that youthful like whatever is mentioned... smh teenager.
@davy honestly after watching a few of her show I feel like she’s more on the ehhh side and it’s probably the show I watch or something but I usually end up fast forwarding/skip most of it. And yea her fan are over the top they bash anyone.
ZLY fans are way too crazy her acting isn’t even the best literally if she can’t do well it just means she can’t do well, got nothing to do with other people. ZLY has obessors literally they harass anyone who says anything they don’t like about her.
I only know the one song of his: 思覺失調. I did like it but I think any half decent singer could have performed it just as well, if not better. If he had not been with Joey for the past 5 years, I think he would have faded into obscurity.
beyond expectation? 19,9 is still very low for a drama. if you look at other new drama like apple-colada already hit 28 points in his first week of broadcast.
@cutie777 It's cruel enough when people call you ugly, but a knife in the heart when parents say the same. Such a bullying and look-shaming society contributes to many individuals with no self-esteem.
Evergreen? another crazy english name!
@davy some people are just plain obsessive and fanatic about their idol's 'superiority.' Back in the 60's, crazy HK fans of Siu Fongfong and Chen PoChu even got physical and created a rift between the good friends.
@nigel Ah yes.. her accent. I remember when I first saw her... I think was Jackie Chan movie? And her cute Cantonese accent.
That is definitely serious photoshopping!
@funnlim Yes. He is still alive. I agree that it was done out of love, but the only problem I have is that many people lack of common sense. Often time when people are more educated then they will less lightly believe in those things.
就算她真的是范丞丞的老娘又如何？ 這是她自己的私事。 並不影響她的演技或者是她的人品或者是她的人氣。
@llwy12 it could be. It all depends on point of origin. If it is because of love, perfectly understandable. Generations where shu qi came from are not snowflakes. They can take criticisms. Whenever my mom said something that to her is an honest statement but to me is like shredding into my soul, I will tell her if I was younger and a korean, I would have killed myself based on that criticism alone. But I am older and I am chinese and we are made of stronger stuff. But yes families can be brutal. But they are your family.
@dramas4me is he still alive? If he ie the superstition should not be dismissed. After all it was done out of love. Why condemn something that isn't harmful in the first place? When people are desperate they will do anything. Like how boys are given girls name, strong boys name given a weaker nickname, wearing amulet, etc. Even my own mom did all that. And she did it out of love. I can't complain about that.
@mangotango indeed she has a very unique look not the conventional beauty but she is very attractive. She has a very sultry & sexy look. I love her accent too haha
@jimmyszeto indeed I like her acting and her chemistry with Leon in the Glass City was amazing. And I loved her cuteness in that movie with Takeshi where she acted as a Beer Girl.
@jimmyszeto Undeveloped is sooo right...My godness and she actually a kid and I guess probably wants to be a called a HOT mama. To HK people that might be good looking but in the U.S. that's 1000% anorexic.
@m0m0 I know right? Looks so damn weird in that height and bony as helllllll legs...LOL hahaha...Scary even.
@jimmyszeto Yup, agreed! I just saw reports that the tickets to his concert aren’t selling well at all, so now some of the media outlets are coming right out saying the breakup thing is a publicity stunt to garner attention for his concert....how pathetic! Honestly, if he has to resort to such tactics all the time to get noticed, then he should just leave the industry altogether and find a job that suits him better!
I still remember his role Wang Lu Lang from TVB with Rain Lau. A very good childhood role model who taught us what kindness, compassion and forgiveness is. It is still a really touching short little show in my heart. The OST was excellent ! I also really liked the other character who was the spirit guardian who helped them all the time, he made the drama really memorable and fun. He also played as Chor Lau Heung's bestie, Wu Tik Fa. It was interesting how he got into villain roles too.
@llwy12 A 1800 seater stadium is Wilfred's best achievement to date. That is quite poor.... To be honest I would rather follow the nicer groups in the industry such as Chilam and his friends. Even Joey Yung, I'm not fond of her at all and her news....
@jimmyszeto Me neither…my time is precious and I wouldn’t waste it on attending a concert of someone I don’t know and/or don’t care about, lol. But I’m sure there are plenty of people who would be willing to go if given free tickets, which I don’t blame them for either since it’s human nature to gravitate towards free stuff. But hey, one thing Wilfred doesn’t have to worry about is scalpers scooping up all the tickets (like they’ve done with previous HK concerts) – most likely the scalpers wouldn’t touch those tickets with a ten foot pole because they know for sure they’ll get ZERO return on investment, haha…. By the way, looks like Wilfred’s concert will be held at MacPherson Stadium, which is a small venue in Mong Kok that seats around 1800 (probably if they squeeze, could get close to 2000 people)….also, it’s only 1 show on April 27th. I have a feeling that someone must have pulled some strings, as Wilfred even said himself in an interview that for the past 8 years his focus has been on movies rather than singing and he hasn’t released anything in awhile. So why a concert all of a sudden…kind of random. And yes, given his track record, I do kind of find it fishy that this news about Joey and Wilfred breaking up (which neither has admitted to by the way) is coming so close to his concert….one of the articles today said that Joey uploaded a picture of her and Wilfred’s matching tennis shoes last night, which media is speculating perhaps that’s Joey’s way of saying that they didn’t break up? To be honest, if that’s the case, it kind of makes things worse because given Joey’s behavior recently (traveling by herself, getting tongue-tied and answering vaguely when reporters ask her about Wilfred, etc.), makes it look like they are colluding to pull a publicity stunt in order to draw attention to Wilfred’s concert...
Oh Jeez ZLY fans are ridiculous, how much better can ZLY act? ZLY does not have many talents, not good at singing, no dancing skill, even just talking or drawing etc. so just because acting is likely the one and only one thing she can do, it does not mean she is the best at it. The plot of the show sounds horrible and typical, but I thought if she act with a well known actress then it is going to be a good thing. Last time when she gets to act with somebody (not all that beautiful but) decent looking, Yang Zi, the fan wars made ZLY's image as someone who can only act with people uglier than her. But now her fans doing the same thing, I don't think ZLY will ever get to act with any big actress. Maybe in the future even big actors too. As what we've seen happened to Jerry Yan, just because he is old now. In the past he starred in Boys over Flower and was part of F4, he used to be very famous. I really love love his drama with Ella and the little pie xiao xiao bin, I watch it a thousand times. Up to today he is old but still a natural looking person I don't know why her fans would disrespect veteran actors. In the future ZLY will grow old and unattractive as well, do her fans just disrespect people like that once they're aged?
@m0m0 Previously, I though Yang Mi looked amazing but she is looking very unhealthy for a 30+ in these pics. It's not just the legs...She looks like a tall undeveloped teenager...
omg, i thought the fans were disapointed b/c of how much these two look alike. they look like the same person in the pics above.
how is this good-looking? she looks anorexic! just this week, i was listening to an hk radio show praising how good she looks like clothes. they were saying her body type looks good w/ any clothing. i was like, okay..she's slender so okay. but this picture, she just looks unhealthy. does she eat? her looking like a teen is seriously a stretch. perhaps the body b/c it's quite rare to see grown women w/ a body like this.
@funnlim very well said. The mindset of people amaze me in this day and age. A makeup free face is not a flaw, to think so is ridiculous. Like I said, these celebs just look ordinary without makeup. I have seen prettier non celebs without makeup. Anyway, good of Grace to do a real makeup free photo. The make up free photo's that I see of celeb women are anything but, especially the Hollywood photos.
Wow! That is some seriously unhealthy dieting!!
@llwy12 I for one would not go even if free. Unless the 'Big Four' keep him in the spotlight, I don't think Wilfred will be around for much longer, especially within music..
@jimmyszeto I doubt that it’s at HKC, though if Paco is the one who got him the opportunity, then it’s possible since Paco does have connections (my guess is that it’s at one of the lesser venues though). I also wonder who would pay to watch him in concert, but then again, even the least known of entertainers can often get tickets sold so who knows. I have a co-worker who has inside connections with concert organizers so he often gets concert tickets for free – he said that even though he doesn’t know the artist and/or doesn’t even like them, he would still go to the concert or give the tickets to his relatives to go because it’s free anyway. I’m sure it’s not too hard to find people to fill seats if you give them freebies, lol….
@llwy12 Quite surprised if Wilfred's upcoming concert is in the Hong Kong Coliseum. I wonder who would pay to watch....
'Unafraid to reveal all of her flaws' is a bit of a bold praise. There are more flaws to people than just facial features. Everyone has positives and negatives to personality too...
I don't think a face without make up as flaws or make up as covering flaws. That's wrong mindset. I'd rather think those like grace who without makeup looks nothing like the face we know. I would think perhaps without make up grace is just rather ordinary and nothing special. Those are not flaws. Those are what you are.
@mangotango Yes. Some people age well and they look better and better as they age. There are also people that look very cute, pretty when they were young, but they look worst and worst as they get older.
@kidd I also feel it’s insulting to compare Louis and Wilfred in that sense. Louis definitely had legit singing/songwriting and acting talent (oh and hosting talent too), it’s just that he was down on his luck due to Kay’s overwhelming popularity at the time plus he got caught up in stuff beyond his control (i.e. he got sacrificed back when the royalty dispute broke out between TVB and the Big 5 record companies). The key is that he didn’t let any of that stuff define him and worked beyond hard to turn all that stuff around and stand up on his own two feet. Wilfred on the other hand, has relied on relationships and connections most of his career to get to where he’s at now…not only that, he seems to be incapable of standing up on his own merit and has to rely on “creating” controversy (like the dirty hand incident, which supposedly was to promote his new song, outing his relationship with Joey during HKTV series filming, etc.) in order to get himself noticed. To me, that’s not “working hard” – someone like Louis or Max who had zero connections and relied solely on their talents to bring themselves up, working their butts off for many years – THAT’s the type of hard work that deserves respect!
@llwy12 I agree with you. I know someone when he was a kid and he wasn't very healthy. He often got sick, so someone advised his parents to let him get ears pierced and wear earrings to keep him healthy. Duh! That is just silly, but back in the old days some people believe just about anything.
I enjoy this series so far I like the onscreen couple Benjamin and Mandy especially the part when they were on a speed chase riding the scooter i keep going back and rewatching it lol........
@kidd Based on the 'dirty hand' incident maybe he does not like the hygiene in the Mainland? :P
@jimmyszeto You don’t have to pull it off if you are a legit down to earth good guy like LeungSiuBing’s husband. Except Lau had bad character and loads of negative news to support that. His dirty hand fb incident proves that as well as kicking reporters while closing Joey’s company car van. Not to mention his one sided admitting of his relationship with Joey at the costume fitting of his lead role at HKTV without her consent; forcing Joey and Denise to not have any chance to turn around and make amends. If you’re a person with morals you don’t go after a 10+ year’s friend’s gf! Not to mention everyone knew Lau used to have a crush on Denise Ho years ago even dedicating a 1-2 songs for her then turn around going after Joey was sick in so many ways!
@jimmyszeto Well, he might not be hugely successful, but, it seems like he's doing ok currently, since he has a concert coming. Interesting that he has never tried out in Mainland. I check his wiki page. All his work are based in HK.
@kidd wow comparing this useless guy to Louis Cheung is insulting. Louis graduated from HK Academy of Peforming Arts’ majoring in acting and was a Singer-Singwriter. I don’t like Louis but he had legit acting and music talent! The only thing he lacked was fame. The real reason behind talent is hard work and truly loving the arts. Lowlife like Lau was only in it for the money and fame without putting in the hard work! Dude has too much pride to push through the rough path of filming cameo and supporting roles for 10+ years at TVB like most people! Just trying a few cameo roles at TVB and the giving up and focusing being cameo in movies thinking the former was beneath him isn’t going to work. A serious artistes wouldn’t continue to hold onto the coat tale of his friends at every chance he gets including the duet with Justin Lo, using Andy Hui’s help and previously Denise Ho to sign to music companies and his superficial friendship with Big Four and Endy Chow. I’m 100% sure thjs breakup news was Paco and Lau’s idea using it to promote his upcoming concert just like Andy Hui in the pass. Except no one cares.
@kidd Louis Cheung and Max Zhang have pulled it off with their dedication and talent. Sometimes how the audience perceive them is very important. I’m not sure if Wilfred can make it unless somehow pulls it off overnight by starring in a Mainland series...
@funnlim To display subtle characteristics to distinguish between 3 characters is a tough ask unless a top actor/actress. The safest way for Mandy to approach this would be ‘over the top’ although it has been annoying for the audience at times. One character is too wild and one is too vulnerable. Others who have played more than one personality before, Gallen(feminine masculinity) Mariane(Love is Beautiful), Ken Lok(Armed Reaction II, III) and Ruco (Every Move You Make) are all much better actors/actresses than Mandy.
I like Wilfred in 'Second Life'. I think he acted well and sang well in the series. Some of his songs are also pretty good. I'm sad that he and Joey broke up. His situation reminds me so much of Louis Cheung. Before Louis became successful, he was called 'soft rice king', 'Mr Tse', useless etc. These harsh unfounded criticisms nearly pushed him to commit suicide. He was talented and worked hard (he also did behind the scene work like composing song). But somehow luck was not on his side for many years, and the public couldn't see his work, just his marriage to a more famous wife. Maybe Wilfred is also in the same boat. He did worked hard, but, luck was not on his side.
@sport3888 Networking and relationships definitely does help in many professions but only to a certain extent. To reach elite status, dedication and talent are necessary. Wilfred has friendships with ‘Big Four’ and was obviously previously in the Denise group. I think he has already acheived the maximum he could have got out of career. Many of similar fame to himself have already disappeared....
@llwy12 I did a Wikipedia search and the only thing that seems familiar to me is the duet he did with Justin Lo for "Line Walker".
Yeah! I need fireworks!
@bubbletea I'm only guessing here but it could be too that maybe Shu Qi's mother is more old-fashioned and so subscribed to alot of the superstition and ignorance embedded in the Chinese culture. I remember I used to ask my mom all the time when I was younger why all our Chinese aunts and uncles seemed to "criticize" their own children each time someone tried to praise them (like they would say their children are u-gly when someone said they are pretty or say they are d-umb when someone praised them for being smart)....at the time, the way my mom explained it was that in the Chinese culture (especially back in those days), it was actually shameful for parents to acknowledge praise of their children because it was seen as the parents being "boastful", which would lead to them getting shunned by society....so whenever someone praised their children, the parents were supposed to either deny it or say the opposite of what was praised. Later on, when I studied Chinese culture on my own, I also learned that parents criticizing their children also had to do with superstition, as in the old days, parents believed that if their children were too pretty or too intelligent or whatnot, they would get taken away from them by the spirits/gods (to be their wives or husbands) so they would label their children with the worst words they could find (u-gly, lazy, worthless, etc.) to "keep them safe". Of course, this type of thinking / mindset doesn't work in modern society (especially here in the West), but it's not surprising that many of the older, more traditional families (parents) would still hold on to these types of beliefs. Now of course, I'm not saying this is the case for sure with Shu Qi's mom, since I really don't know, but it honestly doesn't surprise me whenever I heard things like this with Chinese parents.
My first impression is that she is stunningly beautiful and naturally sensual. Her looks is no cookie cutter as @mxsie said IMO. Maybe her mum's perception on beauty are faces like Zhang Ziyi or Fan Bingbing. And yes, she ages well.
@elizabeth No, he's not with TVB (at least not currently, though he did work for them briefly in the past). Wilfred is a singer (started in the industry after winning a singing contest) turned actor (though he's not tremendously active in acting), plays on the Celebrity Soccer team, and is (or was) part of the Andy Hui / Sammi Cheng friend crowd. Not surprising if you don't remember him, as, like @sport3888 said, Wilfred never really amounted to much despite being in the industry oh like 20 years. I think that's one of the reasons why so many people were shocked that Joey would get together with Wilfred, as he kind of had a reputation already for being useless with little chance to amount to much while Joey was already a mega star with a continued steady path to fame. The few things that Wilfred was "known" for in the media were mostly negative-- the two that come to mind (aside from him and Joey getting together and their subsequent fallout with Denise Ho) were the "dirty hands" incident (which he got lambasted for by practically everyone, both within the industry and outside of it, which resulted in him having to "go into hiding" for awhile) and him spilling the beans on Andy and Sammi already being married (which Andy was publicly pissed about -- I can't remember the exact details but I recall Andy saying that Wilfred is not his friend and so the media shouldn't be listening to him on matters regarding himself and/or Sammi).
Sorry but I still can't remember who Wilfred is. Is he with TVB?
@llwy12 Another example is Catherine Hung and Andy Zhang Dan Feng. When they first got together, everyone he was in it for the 15 mins of fame, even though Catherine was not rich or famous, she was quite well known in the 90's. And with him being the younger man, people never thought that he would stay around for her when she got older. But they are still going strong now with cute kids. Same with Bobby and Raymond Wong who had a lot of criticism since they married rich wives and got called "soft rice eaters". There are definitely male golddiggers out there, but we should not stereotype all men who date more successful women in that category. Same with women who date more successful men. Those who will make it will pull through and get closer, and those who won't gradually drift apart. Both sides need to give, compromise and support each other through the hard times.
@coralie lol in that case what was the 6 years relationship with Denise Ho? Chopped liver?! Not to mention the 7 years Denise waited for her before then, flying to NYC alone to surprise Joey on her birthday when she was training dancing, and dedicating butterfly musical for her which finally won Joey over back in 2005? Denise is 10x better than this lowlife yet Joey’s mom welcomed him at first just cause he was a guy! Yea not so much after the dust settled huh. So happy about this news, bring out the fireworks! This low life was with Joey all for her money and fame! That’s why Joey’s mom never approved of him! He’s only a lazy leech who relies on his sweet talk and bros for any work or significance! Someone who relies on his connections instead of his own hardwork will never ever succeed! People him don’t truly love the arts and was only there for the glitz and glamor! Now he can finally retire without anymore ounce of significance, good riddance! Example of laziness: He started learning guitar about the same time as Denise years ago before their debut. Yet Denise became a master at guitar and a singer-writer while this lowlife never amounted to anything. When asked whether he can play the guitar he makes up an excuse saying “playing guitar is a performance I need money for that”. No ones paying for anything if they can’t see what you can do sir. Look at singers like Det Di and Jason Chan they spends hours learning the guitar and composing while Det even took upon himself to learn writing/arranging software on his own! Those are the true singers who love the craft! Even during their relationship when I heard Joey and Lau went to take guitar and photography classes together I laughed. Yea go try learn something Joey’s “ex” Denise was already a master at, that’s so...moving on.
@bubbletea what shame? It helps Shu Qi grow a thick skin. Maybe to her mom shes ugly BUT she still loves her daughter.
One would say she was never that attractive to begin with. Frankly I dont think she is pretty. But moms can be brutal. Asian mothers especially.
Saw half a show. Her personalities too OTT. The one with a temper. I had to remember Split and how split personality need not be so OTT from one another to be distinct. Subtlety would be ok.
@llwy12 well said.
i do enjoy the show so far. Mandy is doing very well.
@cutie777 I totally agree with your comment. Even if a mother has issues with how her child looks, those issues should remain an unspoken secret. No mother should say to her child what Shu Qi's mom said to her. Shame on her.
@msxie0714 I agree she is no Christine Kuo kind of beauty, however, Shi has a unique, exotic kind of beauty. She has a big heart and a wonderful way with people which supplements her beauty. Her mother was so cruel. Shu Qi has overcome a lot and I wish her well.
@bubbletea She lacks the narrow beauty standards of a white complexion, high nose and v-shape face. But that actually makes her a unique beauty without the cookie-cutter look. And shame on her mother for making such negative comments about her daughter!
As for a mom if your kids born with pretty or ugly face especially your kids is not pretty enough they shouldn’t say anything like that because that’s very hurtful to them. I don’t think I want to say something like this to my own kid.
@bubbletea I did not think she was pretty when I first saw her, then got warm up to her in close up. She’s indeed not a traditional beauty, I think it’s because her mouth are very wide, while her face is quite round. And I have to agree that she looks better as she ages. Anyway, she does sultry well, and do seems to be a nice actress. Overall, I like her :)
@jimmyszeto True, though I think part of it too is that Wilfred hasn’t been trying hard enough to reach higher status and most likely their relationship wasn’t tremendously stable in the first place. 5 years can be a long time but it can be short too depending on how you look at it and most likely the pressure from Joey’s mom’s health condition played a role as well. Coincidentally, I read an article the other day about this exact type of relationship (the girl is more popular and makes more money than the guy) that turned out well in the end (the 3 examples in terms of HK couples from the article were Ada Choi/Max Zhang, Kay Tse/Louis Cheung, Esther Kwan/Nick Cheung). All three couples struggled when they first started off and public pressure (as well as pressure from family) was tremendous, especially when pretty much everyone was criticizing that they would never last (in the case of Esther and Nick, they even broke up for a period of time due to the pressure)….but in the end, the ladies all made the decision to stand by their men and it paid off, since Max, Louis, and Nick all eventually rose up based on their own merit and hard work (in Nick’s case, he even became a bigger star than Esther was)….now all are happily married with kids they adore. So there are definitely success stories out there, though a huge part too also depends on the compatibility of the artists themselves and also how hard they are willing to work on the relationship and stick it out for the long haul.
@coralie That will always be the problem with a celebrity of Joey’s status. It will always be difficult to find a man with better financial status than her.
I think Shu Qi has got more and more attractive as she had gotten older. The cuteness she displays onscreen is the most appealing part though.
@coralie I think both Mandy and Jason have done well so far. Mandy is overacting but I think it’s necessary to distinguish the 3 characters. It would have been easier if it was just 2 personalities to portray. Jason’s character in the series is very annoying though. Don’t know how Mandy’s strong, decisive lawyer character can tolerate a man with so many phobias.
@jimmyszeto: I agree that with you. Each time a pet dies and one has to endure that. That is very heart breaking.
I see nothing wrong with how Shu Qi looked when she was younger. She was rather attractive. She always had a positive and sunny disposition about her too. What was her mother's problem... The Asian community sure has a skewered way of looking at beauty. I had the pleasure of meeting Shu Qi and she is sweet, simple and down to earth. She posesses a natural, exotic beauty which is only a plus to her credit. . I am very ignorant so could someone please explain what the customary beauty standards are?. Inquiring minds need to know. What a nasty, mean mother.
Love her portrayal so far. Her personalities were all very distinct from one another. Don't let the first cringey episode regarding Ben's family dissuade you from watching. It gets much better later on. As far as acting is concerned, Mandy's there already. Benjamin's still not there yet. It's hard to see him as main lead in this one. I imagine someone like Raymond would be able to portray this character with ease and excel at it. Ben's a nice new face, but still somewhat unnatural.
Oh my. I don't know if money is the real reason why they broke up. But it's a darn shame. 5 years is not easy to let go. But better they cut their losses sooner rather than too late. I wonder why Joey doesn't want kids with Wilfred, though. Because the assumption is she wants kids, just not with him.
@dramas4me yup, that is a lot of cats. Even with hired help to assist with cleaning and feeding, there still will be a strong, unpleasant smell lingering around.
@coralie could not agree more with what you and @vell had to say. Unfortunately, society has become more shallw than ever and the studios cater to that fickle mindset. Angelebaby is overrated and overpaid, with little to no acting talent. Her looks are not even her original looks. She and her husband has a lot in common with credit cards, lol. I have watched movies and dramas from all over the world. Some of the actors/actresses were not the best looking, but they sure could relate to the viewers through their characters. That is what acting should be about.
@vell I can't be sure if your comment was voiced as disagreement with my opinions, but if so, well, women don't have to be pretty to be good actresses. Many great artists have been average looking at best. My point was that she's mediocre; if she was uber beautiful, then at least her beauty can be a superficial reason for why people admire her. She's not that pretty, though (imo), so even less reason for her appeal. In fact, I've always said that Angelababy is not a good actress in spite of the fact that millions find her beautiful (I don't.)
Watch this movie last Sunday. Plot is not deep, but, the action is good. A number of scenes really have me at the edge of my seat. Fans of the updated Tomb Raider game will also enjoy the several cut-scenes made live in the movie. Daniel Wu is underused here. His character is a underdeveloped. But then, most of the supporting characters are. The focus is really on Lara Croft. There is no male lead in this movie. The male characters with the biggest role are Daniel's Lu Ren, Lara's father and the villain.
@vell How true! why can't fans place priority on acting instead of demanding physical perfection for actresses? This is probably why the pretty angelababy gets chosen for leading roles and totally undeserving high wages.
@jayne Hi. In order to keep my account from being suspended, i apologise for my recent posts and actions. Sorry. I would like to reassure all members that this is the only account I have ever opened and will ever use.
@coralie seriously when will people stop thinking that you have to be "pretty" to become an actress. I wish Asian people would adopt the same mindset as foreigners when it comes to choosing actors/actress. I'm so sick of seeing mediocre actress with super pretty look. I think LYF has a unique acting style and a unique face like a classic beauty look you see in a Chinese romance novel.
@Jayne I sincerely apologize to you and other members here I might have offended. I was attacked by Jimmyszeto for writing two innocent roleplays about a celeb who loves to yap. I was accused of the most ridiculous and horrendous actions. I was attacked and decided I was going to fight fire with fire. I was disgusted that others massacred the sex lives. Marriages and paternity of other celebs and Jimmyzeto never once scolded or attacked them, yet I was sought out and harassed. In fact , Jimmy likes and support anyone that the troll supports and writes negatively of any that the troll hates. What a coincidence, no? There has been a lot of friendly banter between the two and it has been noticed by many members here. I did not take kindly to being harassed for no reason at all.I was even accused of calling Grace Chan it, when I never did that. I said Kevin should put a ring on it, which is a phrase used to say a man should give his lady a ring. It came from the Beyonce song of the same name. Jimmyszeto know that, yet he tried to manipulatively and deviously use the phrase against me . Such actions are manipulative and evil. Yet he wonders why others think he is Killer02, aka creditor, aka freedalass. Jayne, please let me e know if my general comments in regards to Grace Chan were offensive to warrant Jimmyszeto coming after me. I was rather surprised, but ready to defend myself. I was accused of attacking celeb women here and I'm still waiting on the proof. If you find such posts can you point them out to me so that I can see where I did such a thing? I don't expect you to find such though. It is one thing to be accused of the truth, it is another to be accused of lies by jimmyszeto, who also tried to use lies, and emotional reverse psychology to blacklist me with other posters here, while trying to display *class and decorum*. I was not going to idly sit back. However, I am sorry if I offended you and others here. That is the last thing I wanted to do. He even twisted my comment about my paycheck, my housekeeper to make it look like I was showing off. I am the most down to earth, simple person. I have no time or patience for stuck up idiots. I was just proving a point that Jimmyszeto would keep harassing Mr. Again, my financial life was twisted diabolicall to turn members against me. Again my sincerest apologies. bubbletea.
@bubbletea @jimmyszeto As the administrator of this website, I would like both of you to cease your arguments. The disagreements have become personal and resorted to name calling, with increasingly aggressive remarks. This makes for a highly unpleasant environment for other users. Please take this as a warning. Failure to respect other users on our website may result in account suspension.
@jimmyszeto wow, do not use that word deluded. That is a word that should not be used by you, unless you want to seriously complement someone. You said I have no life, I am a troll. Then you should back off and have a life and stop trolling me. We can't have both of us being trolls with no life now, can we?. You should stop responding. Hahaha. You make me laugh, my muse. Next comment. You are becoming a rag doll now., a toy mouse to my cat. Hurry up and respond
@bubbletea I am responding just as you are responding to me. Not sure how you can make it out I'm the one posting and you are not... Let's forget about big money since you have been ignoring my bets. I'll bet my arm for 1 American cent that the people who scolded you weren't my alias. The same deal/bet can be made that I have never used another username on this site ever. It should be easy for Jaynestars to check because it was so recent.You are in complete denial that others might also find it inappropriate....Seriously deluded...
@llwy12 I really Sheren in a supporting role in dark drama 'The Intangible Truth' where she played the weak sister of Roger who faced the death penalty after being framed with transporting drugs. I can understand why she left TVB at the time because she had been the main lead all her life then suddenly had to play support to the likes of Esther and Amy Chan. With her experience in acting and her dedication, it was a hard reality to take
@jimmyszeto I am amazed you are such a *psychic*, lol,lol. I don't need to explain anything to you. You know me so well, yeah right. What situation am I in?, hahaha. Thinking twice about what???. You really need to lay off the crack and cocaine. I heard you ate washing down the drugs with alcohol. Not a good combo. You are some messed piece of work.. How many people scolded me . One woman backed off because she misunderstood my post. Another was one of your as aliases. . It is funny I still respect people and choose to respond to them respectfully, but you, I intensively dislike and will have you answering me like the foum police wannabe that you are. I am sore from laughing at your boorish comments, and your loser as.s. Next childish, boorish comment please Do not disappoint me. You will respond. I will make you respond. You know you will.I am having so much fun with you, my muse, my joke, my gimp Jemmy boy zeta
@bubbletea You don't have to explain to us that you are having fun but writing nonsensical messages I have to admit is a good way out for you in the situation that you are in. I have put my point across and it will get you thinking twice next time before you rant. Just like when I revealed that you using Linda Chung's children to make a joke . It will stop you doing it again. Obviously still sore from that because others agreed that it was highly inappropriate.....
I will have fun with you from now on cause you will respond to my every post.
@jimmyszeto work, you work?. Which street corner were you at?. The oldest profession in the world... Little boys like you do that too, lol. Hope you made good money, lol. Do you like chocolate bunnies? It has nothing to do with people but a a certain name , nothing to do with people, or a group of people, Lol. You know what I am talking about. Yes, I will talk about how Grace yaps and that will put a bee in your bonnet. I live to bother an old fuddy duddy, eccentric like you. Your turn.
@bubbletea Nah...I went to sleep and went to work. Although we still have disagreements at least it's still a good thing that it make you think for a second before you go raging on Grace next time, even though if it is only for a second....
@mike In an interview I watched recently that Sonija never really cared much about money and brands. Also she loves staying indoors rather than socialising. I think she is one of the rare few to sacrifice her peak years to dedicate time with her family rather then earn as much as possible..
@lewismcchan Could see from the role Joey had been given in 'Inbound Troubles 3' that the guy has no future in acting....
@dramas4me I think one of the worst thing about owning too many pets will be is the sadness once they are ill or pass away. Owning one pet is already a big commitment but too many will not be good for the mental state.
@bubbletea: I honestly don't know how people deal with that many cats/dogs at the same time. I like dogs, but not cats. Many years ago, we were looking to buy a house and our agent took us to a cat house. The lady had over 40 cats. We walked in & immediately I had to run out. I couldn't breath & the smell was so bad. I started to feel itchy also. Some people have serious allergies with cats/dogs. I think I'm one of them. I think even they keep it very clean - the smell will still be there.
But he has no skills to be a dominant or even a second-rated actor.
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174. Chilam Cheung, Charmaine Sheh Star in “The Leaker” Movie
175. Myolie Wu Shows Balding Temples
176. Louis Koo, Jessica Hsuan, Raymond Lam Return for “A Step into the Past” Film Version
177. Myolie Wu Shows Balding Temples
178. Myolie Wu Shows Balding Temples
179. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
180. Leon Lai Announces He Will Be a Father in Facebook Post
181. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
182. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
183. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
184. TVB’s Top 10 Beautiful Actresses
185. How to Train Like Him Law
186. Leon Lai Announces He Will Be a Father in Facebook Post
187. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
188. Myolie Wu Shows Balding Temples
189. Leon Lai Announces He Will Be a Father in Facebook Post
190. Nicholas Tse to Compete Against David Rocco in “Celebrity Chef: East vs. West”
191. Leon Lai Announces He Will Be a Father in Facebook Post
192. Myolie Wu Shows Balding Temples
193. Louis Koo, Jessica Hsuan, Raymond Lam Return for “A Step into the Past” Film Version
194. Louis Koo, Jessica Hsuan, Raymond Lam Return for “A Step into the Past” Film Version
195. Louis Koo, Jessica Hsuan, Raymond Lam Return for “A Step into the Past” Film Version
196. Leon Lai Announces He Will Be a Father in Facebook Post
197. Leon Lai Announces He Will Be a Father in Facebook Post
198. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
199. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
200. Louis Koo, Jessica Hsuan, Raymond Lam Return for “A Step into the Past” Film Version
201. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
202. Leon Lai Announces He Will Be a Father in Facebook Post
203. Months After Breakup, Raymond Lam and Karena Ng Finally Open Up
204. Louis Koo, Jessica Hsuan, Raymond Lam Return for “A Step into the Past” Film Version
205. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
206. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
207. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
208. Samantha Ko Terrified by Old Man Pressing Against Her on Train #MeToo
209. Myolie Wu Shows Balding Temples
210. Louis Koo, Jessica Hsuan, Raymond Lam Return for “A Step into the Past” Film Version
211. Louis Koo, Jessica Hsuan, Raymond Lam Return for “A Step into the Past” Film Version
212. Louis Koo, Jessica Hsuan, Raymond Lam Return for “A Step into the Past” Film Version
213. Myolie Wu Shows Balding Temples
214. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
215. Myolie Wu Shows Balding Temples
216. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
217. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
218. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
219. “Shock Wave” and “The White Storm” Sequels
220. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
221. Crystal Liu Houses 50 Cats in Luxury Mansion
222. Digging Up Raymond Lam’s New Rumored Girlfriend
223. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
224. How Lee Ka-ting Helped Talk TVB into Signing Ray Lui
225. How Lee Ka-ting Helped Talk TVB into Signing Ray Lui
226. Donnie Yen Believes Chinese Film Industry Can Surpass Hollywood
227. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
228. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
229. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
230. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
231. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
232. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
233. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
234. Samantha Ko Terrified by Old Man Pressing Against Her on Train #MeToo
235. How Lee Ka-ting Helped Talk TVB into Signing Ray Lui
236. How Lee Ka-ting Helped Talk TVB into Signing Ray Lui
237. How Lee Ka-ting Helped Talk TVB into Signing Ray Lui
238. Nicholas Tse to Compete Against David Rocco in “Celebrity Chef: East vs. West”
239. How Lee Ka-ting Helped Talk TVB into Signing Ray Lui
240. Digging Up Raymond Lam’s New Rumored Girlfriend
241. Digging Up Raymond Lam’s New Rumored Girlfriend
242. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
243. Nicholas Tse to Compete Against David Rocco in “Celebrity Chef: East vs. West”
244. How Lee Ka-ting Helped Talk TVB into Signing Ray Lui
245. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
246. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
247. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
248. Digging Up Raymond Lam’s New Rumored Girlfriend
249. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
250. Digging Up Raymond Lam’s New Rumored Girlfriend
251. Nicholas Tse to Compete Against David Rocco in “Celebrity Chef: East vs. West”
252. Nicholas Tse to Compete Against David Rocco in “Celebrity Chef: East vs. West”
253. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
254. Jelly Lin Starts Filming Stephen Chow’s “The Mermaid 2”
255. Nicholas Tse to Compete Against David Rocco in “Celebrity Chef: East vs. West”
256. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
257. Digging Up Raymond Lam’s New Rumored Girlfriend
258. How Lee Ka-ting Helped Talk TVB into Signing Ray Lui
259. Samantha Ko Terrified by Old Man Pressing Against Her on Train #MeToo
260. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
261. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
262. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
263. Samantha Ko Terrified by Old Man Pressing Against Her on Train #MeToo
264. Samantha Ko Terrified by Old Man Pressing Against Her on Train #MeToo
265. Samantha Ko Terrified by Old Man Pressing Against Her on Train #MeToo
266. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
267. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
268. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
269. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
270. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
271. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
272. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
273. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
274. Bernice Liu Confirms Dating Businessman, Calvin Lo
275. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
276. Bernice Liu Confirms Dating Businessman, Calvin Lo
277. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
278. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
279. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
280. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
281. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
282. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
283. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
284. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
285. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
286. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
287. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
288. Samantha Ko Terrified by Old Man Pressing Against Her on Train #MeToo
289. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
290. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
291. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
292. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
293. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
294. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
295. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
296. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
297. Samantha Ko Terrified by Old Man Pressing Against Her on Train #MeToo
298. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
299. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
300. Lawrence Ng Agrees with Alex Man’s Improvised Fight Scene in “The Feud of Two Brothers”
301. Lawrence Ng Agrees with Alex Man’s Improvised Fight Scene in “The Feud of Two Brothers”
302. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
303. Lawrence Ng Agrees with Alex Man’s Improvised Fight Scene in “The Feud of Two Brothers”
304. Samantha Ko Terrified by Old Man Pressing Against Her on Train #MeToo
305. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
306. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
307. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
308. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
309. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
310. Lawrence Ng Agrees with Alex Man’s Improvised Fight Scene in “The Feud of Two Brothers”
311. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
312. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
313. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
314. Evergreen Mak Waits on Tables
315. Samantha Ko Terrified by Old Man Pressing Against Her on Train #MeToo
316. Samantha Ko Terrified by Old Man Pressing Against Her on Train #MeToo
317. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
318. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
319. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
320. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
321. Bernice Liu Confirms Dating Businessman, Calvin Lo
322. Joey Yung on Breakup: “Don’t Want to Say Too Much”
323. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
324. Bernice Liu Confirms Dating Businessman, Calvin Lo
325. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
326. Bernice Liu Confirms Dating Businessman, Calvin Lo
327. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
328. Lawrence Ng Agrees with Alex Man’s Improvised Fight Scene in “The Feud of Two Brothers”
329. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
330. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
331. Samantha Ko Terrified by Old Man Pressing Against Her on Train #MeToo
332. Bernice Liu Confirms Dating Businessman, Calvin Lo
333. Raymond Lam Happy with New Girlfriend, Carina Zhang
334. Joey Yung on Breakup: “Don’t Want to Say Too Much”
335. Lawrence Ng Agrees with Alex Man’s Improvised Fight Scene in “The Feud of Two Brothers”
336. Joey Yung on Breakup: “Don’t Want to Say Too Much”
337. Lawrence Ng Agrees with Alex Man’s Improvised Fight Scene in “The Feud of Two Brothers”
338. Lawrence Ng Agrees with Alex Man’s Improvised Fight Scene in “The Feud of Two Brothers”
339. Joey Yung on Breakup: “Don’t Want to Say Too Much”
340. Joey Yung on Breakup: “Don’t Want to Say Too Much”
341. Jelly Lin Starts Filming Stephen Chow’s “The Mermaid 2”
342. Leon Lai’s Girlfriend is 6 Months Pregnant
343. Jelly Lin Starts Filming Stephen Chow’s “The Mermaid 2”
344. Evergreen Mak Waits on Tables
345. Grace Wong Shows No Makeup Selfie: “Embrace Your Flaws”
346. Evergreen Mak Waits on Tables
347. Evergreen Mak Waits on Tables
348. Zanilia Zhao, Zheng Shuang in “Soul Mate” TV Drama?
349. Joey Yung on Breakup: “Don’t Want to Say Too Much”
350. Ratings Hit Beyond Expectations, Is “Threesome” the Next “Legal Mavericks”?
351. Ratings Hit Beyond Expectations, Is “Threesome” the Next “Legal Mavericks”?
352. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
353. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
354. Ratings Hit Beyond Expectations, Is “Threesome” the Next “Legal Mavericks”?
355. Ratings Hit Beyond Expectations, Is “Threesome” the Next “Legal Mavericks”?
356. Ratings Hit Beyond Expectations, Is “Threesome” the Next “Legal Mavericks”?
357. Linda Chung Announces Departure from TVB; Wants to Focus on New Baby
358. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
359. Zanilia Zhao, Zheng Shuang in “Soul Mate” TV Drama?
360. Evergreen Mak Waits on Tables
361. Zanilia Zhao, Zheng Shuang in “Soul Mate” TV Drama?
362. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
363. Yang Mi’s “Chopstick” Legs Defy Logic
364. Zanilia Zhao, Zheng Shuang in “Soul Mate” TV Drama?
365. Li Xiaolu, Jia Nailiang Did Not Get a Divorce
366. How to Train Like Him Law
367. How to Train Like Him Law
368. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
369. Ratings Hit Beyond Expectations, Is “Threesome” the Next “Legal Mavericks”?
370. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
371. Li Xiaolu, Jia Nailiang Did Not Get a Divorce
372. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
373. How to Train Like Him Law
374. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
375. Dispelling Divorce Rumors, Yang Mi and Hawick Lau to Star in “The Prosecutor”
376. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
377. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
378. Ratings Hit Beyond Expectations, Is “Threesome” the Next “Legal Mavericks”?
379. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
380. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
381. Joey Yung on Breakup: “Don’t Want to Say Too Much”
382. How to Train Like Him Law
383. How to Train Like Him Law
384. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
385. How to Train Like Him Law
386. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
387. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
388. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
389. How to Train Like Him Law
390. Yang Mi’s “Chopstick” Legs Defy Logic
391. Zanilia Zhao, Zheng Shuang in “Soul Mate” TV Drama?
392. Ratings Hit Beyond Expectations, Is “Threesome” the Next “Legal Mavericks”?
393. Ratings Hit Beyond Expectations, Is “Threesome” the Next “Legal Mavericks”?
394. Grace Wong Shows No Makeup Selfie: “Embrace Your Flaws”
395. Ratings Hit Beyond Expectations, Is “Threesome” the Next “Legal Mavericks”?
396. Ratings Hit Beyond Expectations, Is “Threesome” the Next “Legal Mavericks”?
397. Grace Wong Shows No Makeup Selfie: “Embrace Your Flaws”
398. Grace Wong Shows No Makeup Selfie: “Embrace Your Flaws”
399. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
400. Evergreen Mak Waits on Tables
401. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
402. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
403. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
404. Grace Wong Shows No Makeup Selfie: “Embrace Your Flaws”
405. Yang Mi’s “Chopstick” Legs Defy Logic
406. Zanilia Zhao, Zheng Shuang in “Soul Mate” TV Drama?
407. Ratings Hit Beyond Expectations, Is “Threesome” the Next “Legal Mavericks”?
408. Yang Mi’s “Chopstick” Legs Defy Logic
409. Zanilia Zhao, Zheng Shuang in “Soul Mate” TV Drama?
410. Zanilia Zhao, Zheng Shuang in “Soul Mate” TV Drama?
411. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
412. Ratings Hit Beyond Expectations, Is “Threesome” the Next “Legal Mavericks”?
413. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
414. Evergreen Mak Waits on Tables
415. Zanilia Zhao, Zheng Shuang in “Soul Mate” TV Drama?
416. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
417. Yang Mi’s “Chopstick” Legs Defy Logic
418. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
419. Dissecting the 18-Year-Old Rumor: Is Fan Chengcheng Actually Fan Bingbing’s Illegitimate Son?
420. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
421. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
422. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
423. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
424. Yang Mi’s “Chopstick” Legs Defy Logic
425. Yang Mi’s “Chopstick” Legs Defy Logic
426. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
427. Evergreen Mak Waits on Tables
428. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
429. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
430. Zanilia Zhao, Zheng Shuang in “Soul Mate” TV Drama?
431. Yang Mi’s “Chopstick” Legs Defy Logic
432. Zanilia Zhao, Zheng Shuang in “Soul Mate” TV Drama?
433. Yang Mi’s “Chopstick” Legs Defy Logic
434. Grace Wong Shows No Makeup Selfie: “Embrace Your Flaws”
435. Yang Mi’s “Chopstick” Legs Defy Logic
436. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
437. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
438. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
439. Grace Wong Shows No Makeup Selfie: “Embrace Your Flaws”
440. Grace Wong Shows No Makeup Selfie: “Embrace Your Flaws”
441. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
442. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
443. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
444. Mandy Wong Portrays Split Personalities in “Threesome”
445. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
446. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
447. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
448. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
449. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
450. Mandy Wong Portrays Split Personalities in “Threesome”
451. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
452. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
453. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
454. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
455. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
456. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
457. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
458. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
459. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
460. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
461. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
462. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
463. Mandy Wong Portrays Split Personalities in “Threesome”
464. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
465. Mandy Wong Portrays Split Personalities in “Threesome”
466. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
467. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
468. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
469. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
470. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
471. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
472. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
473. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
474. Mandy Wong Portrays Split Personalities in “Threesome”
475. Crystal Liu Houses 50 Cats in Luxury Mansion
476. Mother Complained Little Shu Qi Was Ugly
477. Mandy Wong Portrays Split Personalities in “Threesome”
478. Joey Yung, Wilfred Lau End 5-Year Relationship
479. Crystal Liu Houses 50 Cats in Luxury Mansion
480. Crystal Liu Houses 50 Cats in Luxury Mansion
481. Crystal Liu Houses 50 Cats in Luxury Mansion
482. Daniel Wu Stars in “Tomb Raider”
483. Crystal Liu Houses 50 Cats in Luxury Mansion
484. Dissecting the 18-Year-Old Rumor: Is Fan Chengcheng Actually Fan Bingbing’s Illegitimate Son?
485. Crystal Liu Houses 50 Cats in Luxury Mansion
486. Dissecting the 18-Year-Old Rumor: Is Fan Chengcheng Actually Fan Bingbing’s Illegitimate Son?
487. Dissecting the 18-Year-Old Rumor: Is Fan Chengcheng Actually Fan Bingbing’s Illegitimate Son?
488. Dissecting the 18-Year-Old Rumor: Is Fan Chengcheng Actually Fan Bingbing’s Illegitimate Son?
489. Dissecting the 18-Year-Old Rumor: Is Fan Chengcheng Actually Fan Bingbing’s Illegitimate Son?
490. Sheren Tang on Why She Became an Actress; Reflects on Classic Roles
491. Dissecting the 18-Year-Old Rumor: Is Fan Chengcheng Actually Fan Bingbing’s Illegitimate Son?
492. Dissecting the 18-Year-Old Rumor: Is Fan Chengcheng Actually Fan Bingbing’s Illegitimate Son?
493. Dissecting the 18-Year-Old Rumor: Is Fan Chengcheng Actually Fan Bingbing’s Illegitimate Son?
494. Dissecting the 18-Year-Old Rumor: Is Fan Chengcheng Actually Fan Bingbing’s Illegitimate Son?
495. Dissecting the 18-Year-Old Rumor: Is Fan Chengcheng Actually Fan Bingbing’s Illegitimate Son?
496. Sonija Kwok Hasn’t Watched a Hong Kong Drama in 10 Years
497. Roxanne Tong, Joey Law End 4-Year Relationship
498. Crystal Liu Houses 50 Cats in Luxury Mansion
499. Crystal Liu Houses 50 Cats in Luxury Mansion
500. Roxanne Tong, Joey Law End 4-Year Relationship