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  • Stephanie Ho wasn't the best singer to begin with. She's no Joey Yung, Janice Wei, Gem Tang, icon-status singer. Her career wouldn't have gone very far anyways
  • Well, at least their kids will be gorgeous. Kevin Cheng in his younger days was a heart throb and Grace is in her prime now.
  • So much talent. It's unfortunate how the public puts so much stress on these artists. I hope she is recovering well and finds happiness.
  • @jjwong I wish there was something special about Natalie's character. It doesn't make sense that Heshen would send her with little to no back-up to implement important missions. She's loyal, and that's invaluable, but I was hoping for some talent. She puts herself in danger because she is a weak fighter. With the Helin evidence mission, I was thinking that maybe she is clever and can trick the official to get the evidence. Nope. Maybe she is such a good business woman that she can talk a good deal. Nope. At least, maybe she can read people well and predict behaviors. Sadly, another failure as shown by her assessment of the White Lotus spy. Nancy would work but people may be fatigued from their last collaboration. Also, she is a bit too mature (Natalie too, technically) for this role. The actor that plays Helin was Eddie Pang. I don't recall him in anything else. I also thought Otto was in this drama, but he's not. The role has little screen time but is a good guest star role - perhaps Jazz Lam can be brotherly? He and Ruco have worked together before and I think they have good chemistry but physically may not match. Matthew Ho as Heshen's son is a bit weak but he is adequate. I finally felt something for his character in these recent episodes. Although I think Angelina Lo is a miscast as the older consort, this is the first time I have been impressed by her dramatic acting. This series is giving interesting opportunities to all the actors. @funnlim Of course since Natalie is a main character she can't leave Heshen. There's another 8 episodes, ya know. Lol, I'm just teasing. In real life, she SHOULD leave him. But also in real life, there are women like her that stay in unhealthy relationships because of misguided love, history and comfort. It's ironic that this relationship humanizes him and also demonizes him. Elaine is right, she is going to be his downfall. Which sucks because romance is needed to add flavor to this drama but it shouldn't be a main motivation. It is interesting that Heshen was Jiaqing's teacher. They have the same personality traits - passionate, calculating, ambitious, and ruthless. Jiaqing is more like Heshen's son than his own. In the latest episode, Jiaqing even showed the overconfidence that Heshen usually has by underestimating Joel. The only difference, as you noted, is that Jiaqing has no self-esteem and Heshen has an overabundance. I don't see the drama as villainizing Jiaqing and whitewashing Heshen. If the drama were more heavy handed, it could have increased Jiaqing's body count or not given him those pensive, remorseful moments. It could have never mentioned the thousands that Heshen hurt with his greed. Jiaqing hurts those that he is suppose to love while Heshen is only good to those he does love. That's not noble either, it's selfish. Both are just despicable. I don't think it is necessary TeamJiaqing or TeamHeshen, but rather we are watching the destruction of both men. You're right, when Jiaqing triumphs over Heshen, he will lose himself in the process. Forgive me for being long-winded all over this thread, I am procrastinating on life.
  • @jimmyszeto Of course the 2 roles weren't comparable. Wayne's was the lead and Ruco's was the plot device with little screentime. When I say "blew him out of the water" I mean when they were on screen together no one was was exclaiming, "Wayne is so, so much better, why is Ruco even there?" They played their respective roles appropriately. My bringing up an old role is to illustrate that he has been with other "greats" and can hold his own. And he has improved alot from there. Hey, I am not saying that Ruco is the bestest actor in the whole wide world. Like other actors, I have cringed at a couple of his moments. But I don't think it is absurd to suggest having a series where he is with another good lead actor. Being with Kevin was the closest that he came, and although a top lead, opinions will vary on whether Kevin is good. Since the old days, TVB has many series with different combos of their top actors - From the 5 Tigers together to recent times with Bobby and Moses, etc. Now I haven't followed TVB as closely these last years, but I can't think of another top lead actor that has not been in at least a couple series together with another top lead actor.
  • @potatochip Of course Wayne blew Ruco away in Forensic Heroes. Ruco has pretty much a nothing type of role while Wayne had all the screentime. Don’t tell me Ruco was pulling down trees with that role. It is also irrevelant bringing up an old movie role. Did you even know who he was or follow his career at ATV before he became famous? Putting 2 lead actors together is never a good business strategy. It worked when they put Moses and Wayne together but it is rare if does not complete outshine his colleagues..
  • @jjwong That Alex photo looks like he’s made of chocolate. It’s impossible for a skinny Hong Kong kid to look as chiselled as that without digital enhancements.
  • @jjwong It will be more weird if Kevin found a 50 year old to marry....
  • 27 years old perfect age. Grace is wise in not making the same mistake of a lot of actresses who have gambled on their career and ended up being 40+ years old with a partner and babyless.
  • Hopefully she can still make it as a support actress while concentrating on her golf. I don’t think Stephanie has much of a choice other than sacrifice her music career. The usual public reaction when an idol is taken. For a skinny kid with no charisma, I’m surprised Fred has so many female fans....
  • I'm so happy! Now she can go retire and never come back to TVB!!
  • i never quite like joe ma...his acting is no big deal. prefer Michael miu, eddie cheung, felix wong and Michael wong. joe ma's characters are limited to police roles and even then he is too stiff.
  • @jjwong 70 years old! it's scary thinking about it. she will be 40 when the child is 12 but he will be 62. Jacqueline's youthful and playfulness has brought out the best in her boyfriend...i agree with jayne. Kenneth Ma is not as uncle like before.
  • Lol, their faces look so much alike from that picture! I hope she doesn’t regret her decision later on :(
  • @tiffany what career does she have? she has never improved all these years. we are too happy she is getting married and disappear to start a family. kevin cheng doesn't seem to age well...that's ok. she gets her man while he gets to enjoy young grass.
  • Where's pic of full body of her Chinese dresses? Those headshoot look pretty. The red Western style dresses look more like prom dress. Wish I have a boss lile hers when it comes to wedding gifts, lol. Daaaam.
  • Wow, what a waste! She's much more hopeful as a singer AND actor than Fred. Ugh, is this another picking male over female bias BS? I mean, if they did cheat, Fred is at fault too. Fred is mediocre at best in singing and acting, and over promoted too quick. He has no on screen charisma nor the built to be a series lead. His songs are all one note and same same style. I hope he improves soon. It's still a shame for Stephanie if this gossip is true.
  • Finally, eyecandy for the females! Lol. Body wise, he's good looking. Face as he aged, meh. Acting, needs lot of improvement. I find him put in the hard work when it comes to acting. It's like he tried but it usually came out unnatural. He needs to let go or find his mojo somehow. He played different types of char, from honest doc to playful flirt to ghetto smartbutt, yet he's still so boring on screen! IMHO, he did worse in crying, emotional scenes than Priscilla in LW2. He did look very good and stylish though. He was much, much better than Pakho.
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