Kate Tsui Likes Financially Secure Men; Raymond Lam Prefers Knowledgeable Women

The praying ceremony for TVB drama, Fight Crime <雷霆掃毒>, took place yesterday. At the event, “singles,” Kate Tsui (徐子珊) and Raymond Lam (林峰) were asked what qualities they looked for in a significant other. Kate answered, “I like a man who makes more money than me!” Raymond said that he preferred a professional woman who worked outside the entertainment industry.

Although Kate was spotted taking Latin dancing lessons with TVB colleague, Sammy Shum (沈震軒) last November, no further relationship developments have been reported since. It was unclear whether the duo were only friends who possessed a mutual passion in dancing, or whether romantic ties truly existed.

Filming day and night for Fight Crime and lacking proper rest, Kate Tsui’s face was a bit swollen yesterday. In the past, Kate’s sister and friends introduced men to her. Kate was practical and clear on what she looked for in a significant other. She preferred a man who had a good personality, was taller than her, and made more money than her. Similiar to many women, Kate preferred a man who can take care of her.

When it was pointed out that Raymond Lam met her criteria for a significant other, Kate laughed, “I’m not suitable for him! He is my big brother! We do not have sparks for a romantic relationship!”

Portraying an explosive cop in Fight Crime, Raymond Lam appeared with a rough stubble on his face. Public interest regarding the type of woman that attracted Raymond remained intense. Raymond admitted that he possessed good feelings towards Linda Chung (鍾嘉欣) while filming Heart of Greed <溏心風暴> and Moonlight Resonance <溏心風暴之家好月圓>. Raymond expressed his eagerness to work with Linda once again. However, Linda was currently rumored to have been dating martial arts star, Philip Ng (伍允龍), for the last 5 years, dashing fans’ hopes that Raymond and Linda may turn their former onscreen chemistry into a real-life dating relationship.

Since breaking up with Mavis Pan (潘霜霜) last year, Raymond Lam professed to be single for more than a year. With his busy schedule–even bringing upon nerve damage and extreme back pain to himself–Raymond said that he did not have time to even go on dinner dates. Due to his back injury, he lost more than 10 pounds in weight.

Raymond stated that he wished to date a woman who worked outside the entertainment industry. “I am always filming. I hope to find a significant other who can teach me professional knowledge from another field.” Raymond dismissed the suggestion that such criteria arose from the backlash that resulted from his high-profile bed photos with Mavis Pan.

Sources: On.cc, Oriental Daily via Netease.com, On.cc, Oriental Daily

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Jayne: I am very curious to find out whether Kate and Sammy Shum are indeed dating. Since their dancing photos last November, there has been no follow-up. Wonder if they were told to be more low-profile by TVB since?

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  1. Wow, that’s Kate? When I first saw the photo I thought it was JJ Jia!

  2. ” I hope to find a significant other who can teach me professional knowledge from another field.”

    Pole dancing perhaps?

    1. Funn,
      “Pole dancing perhaps?”

      Hehe your comment made me laugh out loud. I was thinking that Raymond must want a long-legged woman who looks hot in a business suit. 🙂

      1. Ahhh Jayne, wait till Ray’s fans read our comments!!

        But seriously, either he is lying as in not being truthful of the women he prefers OR he has a change of taste in what I call the “Post Mavis Disorder”. Or did he just said smart women, he didn’t specify looks so in the end it is Mavis with a business degree, calculator and a ledger? Kinda sexy!

      2. P/s Raymond, your needs is easily satisfied by dating a professor of your preferred field of study. Either actual study which entails going to classes or shortcut, just date the professor.

      3. Funn,
        “P/s Raymond, your needs is easily satisfied by dating a professor of your preferred field of study. Either actual study which entails going to classes or shortcut, just date the professor.”

        Funn, Raymond only commented on wishing to date a knowledgeable lady, not necessarily intelligent. So she can be in any line of work, not restricted to being a professor.

        Raymond’s comment only eliminated school girls from the criteria. 🙂

      4. i think mavis was always a casual thing. not a lot of men would turn down an opportunity to get into bed with her. of course, he wants a knowledgeable, respectful woman as a wife to make his family proud.

      5. To be precise, Raymond likes Office gals with smart looking face+attire and huge boobs!!! …..which implicitly means that he has a very large and crazy appetite for big boobies who can work in office with smart attire yet can still perform [VERY] hot on bed…….

        Who could speculate him to have enough guts to go out to admit publicly of such shameful preference (discrimination) for the fear of public backlash and branding him a “big boobs-maniac!!” ?

      6. Pingtann, admit or not, he’s already branded “big boobs maniac” by people like you. So what to fear anyway.

      7. Jayne,

        I see! I see! Knowledgeable can be different from intelligent.

      8. Oh, he must like it. These women are attractive to any man.

      9. @ anoninhk

        “of course, he wants a knowledgeable, respectful woman as a wife to make his family proud.”

        Correction, he’ll want a knowledgeable, respectful AND gorgeous woman to make his family proud.

    2. Oh, and isnt pole dancing in the same field? I’d love to see him pole dancing with C2M background hehe

      1. But in the name of research, I am willing to pay. 😀

      2. Pole dancing + stripping+ fire back ground=extremely lusty and hot

    3. When I hear “professional” career, I think of doctor, lawyer, or accountant. But that seems too stuffy for ray. I imagine a pretty school teacher would be more his type. Of course if she knows how to pole dance too, I’m sure he wouldn’t mind. 😀 All men want a girl that looks sweet on the outside but can be wild in the bedroom.

      1. Being a teacher,professor or researcher, these type of women are usually very disgustingly boring (on the bed) and possess no big juicy boobs to please such “sexually ambitious” “unknown bigot” like Raymond……

    4. @ Funn

      +1
      I’m sorry to judge a book by its cover but Mavis just doesn’t strike me as a “knowledgeable” woman. Knowledgeable about the best surgeons, maybe. (But Ray should have his own expertise in this area…)

      @ Jayne

      I think “knowledgeable” is usually linked to intelligence and does not only mean “well informed” about a certain field.

      1. She showed that she isn’t a woman with bubble head at all :). If you ever listened to her interview, you’ll see such thing.

      2. @ Fox

        I never thought Mavis was an airhead to begin with. It takes a certain amount of cunning to do what she has done. But she doesn’t strike me as knowledgeable because she’s clearly insecure about her looks – ahem too much plastic – and after getting dumped she showed her famewh*ring ways so she must have limited interests in her life considering her priorities.

        @ NX

        I’d love to but I don’t read Chinese. Perhaps you could just recap for me? Tell me, what is Mavis knowledgeable about? The word works both ways. Knowledgeable does not only mean intelligent.

      3. I don’t know if you’ve looked at the pix I have given to you in Linda’s news or not. PSS was a pretty girl to begin with. The plastic surgeries, if any, only helped to enhanced her prettiness.

        She was too deeply in love, it caused to the revenge. I somehow can understand for her feeling although I don’t agree with her revenge method. I also think that she shouldn’t be lovesick this way. However, it can’t show her knowledgeable ability.

        I guess NX mentioned of her words written in the weibo. The way she wrote them give ppl the feeling that she has a romantic beautiful soul.

        And other than her works (models), in real life, she dresses quite decent, nothing different to other girls, even can be considered as less revealable than many Txb actresses.

      4. @ Fox

        She WAS a pretty girl before – which tells me a lot about her level of insecurity. Furthermore, her “lovesickness” is another point that suggest high level of insecurity.

        Notwithstanding her “romantic beautiful soul”, the insecurities suggest to me that she does not have many interests to sustain herself.

      5. I disagree with you on the insecurity part :). A very secured girl still can be lovesick. Tsudere type can be very cool and confident but when it comes to love, many of them hook in it much more than others.

        Well, she wants to work in ent. industry and in this industry, who dun want to look more pretty? Prettiness is an asset and also a part of their jobs, especially when she is a model. It can’t be called “insecured” or all the girls in the industry will be the same. PSS was a pretty girl at first place and now she is still a pretty girl.

      6. @ Fox

        No, you don’t need to be insecure in order to be love sick. But you do need to be pretty insecure to be love sick over a guy who didn’t treat you well. And I’m going to have to presume that’s her issue or otherwise, she’s looking mighty petty for her “revenge”.

        Who doesn’t want to look prettier? Someone who’s already content with their looks. Lots of women in the entertainment are insecure. That’s exactly why they get plastic surgeries.

      7. How can you know that he dun treat her well and vice versa? Doesn’t need a reason to be lovesick, it’s the nature of this person. Some can be lovesick, some can’t. Some put love on top, some can’t. But it dun make them feel insecured.

        BTW, even if she is insecured with love or being super jealous, it dun mean that she isn’t a knowledgeable woman. There are a lot of women with high education fooled themselves in a fighting against love rival :).

        I don’t find many girls in the industry who is content with look enough to not use anything to enhance their look. Actually, I can’t think of anyone. Do you have an example?

        Just because PSS is a sexy girl with a bad way of revenge, the way you are judging her knowledgeable is pretty unfair. If that, I can say that all Txb girls dun have knowledgeable, too! At least she (PSS) finished high school. There are Txb actresses who haven’t finished it yet.

      8. @ Fox

        I already explaining it. Either she’s a petty little woman or she’s a scorned woman. End of story.

        Yes, it is in someone’s nature to be more or less “love sick”. It’s called insecurity.

        Once again, being knowledgeable implies MORE than intelligence. It means you are ~well informed~ on a certain area.

        So tell me, what is she knowledgeable about?

        And actually, most people in the entertainment industry are insecure famewh*res and no, they are now very knowledgeable so you’re welcome to claim that about TVB actresses too.

        Uh no, it’s not unfair to judge Mavis on exactly what she has CHOSEN to put out for me to judge. Her looks, her cry for attention.

      9. I am with advo on this one.

        I can think of many adjectives for PSS but not neccessarily “knowledgeable” as the top three adjectives about her unless there are other stuff I don’t know, like she is really brainy or a top university scholar or something.

      10. Uhm, what in her isn’t ‘knowledgeable’? Why are you too biased toward her? Because of the way she gets the revenge? Or being lovesick? These things are more of feeling than knowledgeable ability. That’s what I’m trying to say.

        You yourself claimed that you are judging her by her cover, so it’s kind of unfair. Why you don’t give her a chance but death penalty at first place? Her look, as I said, rather than when she does her jobs as a sexy model, she dresses quite decent and less revealable than many other girls. Honestly, if I can compare her to Gan Lu Lu (you can google her), she is like an angel, lolz.

    5. That’s exactly what Kate said when she was asked on “Today’s VIP” about what kind of a man she wanted. She said she wanted someone outside the industry so he can give me knowledge from outside the entertainment industry.

  3. Will Kate and Raymond be playing lovers in “Crime Fighters”? Is this their first collaboration? Curious to see how their chemistry will play out.

    1. In this series, I think Raymond likes Kate or something. And this is not their first time collaborating. They were a couple in The Four (少年四大名捕).

    2. In real life, KATE is not even fall into 1% of his radar of preference. That’s why Kate said she’s not his (sexy) cup of tea…

      Kate maybe very successful in her career life but finding a “right half” to her is like a needle in the middle of a pond (if not in the ocean) given that her bf/husband requirements are set unreasonably high and materialistically unachievable with her so-fake, so-choosy and so-tomboyish look/personality ……

      1. Kate is sexy on stage! She knows how to make her curve more visible and tempting.

  4. So now he come back to his ten-year-ago criteria? He really do the start-again does he????

    1. Since his last criteria didn’t work out, he’s going back to his first one. And hopefully this one will work out.

  5. Jayne, in the news (MingPao & TVB jade) LF also restated that he would not deliberately make it public if he had a relationship in the future, and he would not mind dating anyone in the circle. Old quote “let nature take it course”…

    Well, sound like he’s trying to open an exit for himself if there is any future exposal.

    Also in the news, Kate said that she’s not Fung’s type and she wishes her boyfriend to be taller than her.

  6. I don’t know why he still pretends like his taste is different from what has been proven. There’s nothing wrong with admitting you’re like 99% of all men. Pretending like you’re above it however, that’s grating.

    Not too impressed by Kate’s “requirements” either but at least she owns up to it.

    1. Hehe, I guess that you think Kate’s requirement is materialistic, but if she puts a requirement the same as everyone always talks (good man, good personality, blah blah) to make ppl think she is the same with other ppl, you will complain, too. How can impress you by a requirements? General requirements dun work, unique requirement dun work. Hard ah~.

      1. She stated “good personality” too.

        Generic answers are insipid and her “unique” requirements are just materialistic (money) or shallow (height). So why should I be impressed? The only thing I was “impressed” by was her ability to own up to her own shallowness and materialism. Which I place slightly above being shallow and pretending to be above it. So don’t tell me I complain about everything – when there’s nothing to feel otherwise about.

      2. I don’t say that you complain about everything but a general requirement and an unique one still are not under your impression. Maybe they should say about their requirements in an oral presentation to make it wiser?

      3. Sorry I wasn’t specific. When I said “complain about everything”, I really meant complain about everything in relation to celebs and their dating requirements. Better?

        I “complain” about generic answers because they are – surprise, surprise – generic. They tell me absolutely nothing.

        As for “unique” answers, should I applaud her for being shallow and materialistic?

        Cuz if not, then I don’t understand your complaint about my complaint. And why do you act like there isn’t a happy medium between generic and pleasant unique requirements? What about a man who can cook, is good with children, has a sense of humour, treats women as equals, likes being outdoors/art/history/videogames, will do the dishes blah, blah, blah. Get my point?

      4. Ok, in short, I dun think this public talk contains all the real requirements that they want, just that :).

        Lolz, I think that, most of women wish for “good personality, loyalty” but also “rich, handsome, successful” and else, but deep inside them, the only requirement is: “Find someone suitable to love”. And in the end, the right man is someone they think that suit them well. That’s all. The requirements, only used to refer and sometimes can’t work on the real Mr. Right.

      5. @ Fox

        Why should a woman wish for a poor man over a rich man? There’s is nothing inherent wrong with wishing for your other half to be successful (which is often associated with rich). But saying things like “my requirement” you signal that your priority is on money first. With that said, do I think Kate is necessarily a person who wouldn’t think of dating someone less successful if they were compatible personality-wise? Not really. But you are judged by what you choose to say.

        I disagree on “public talk”, can’t request much. They do not need to divulge if they don’t want to and if they want to give a generic answer, that’s fine. But don’t be surprised by how I find that boring. I would find it far more interesting if she told me she likes a guy who shares her interest on ~whatever she likes. Because that actually tells me something about her/her interests.

      6. Nope, it isn’t “should” or “shouldn’t” but the real wish :P. However, a wish is always a wish, and the fact that women will end up with someone they feel suitable to them, not that this man can satisfy all the requirements they set up.

        As for the general questions and boring answer, lolz, let’s blame the reporters for why they always asking the same question times after times. Maybe if the reporters are more creative, we’ll see more creative answers.

        P/S: I also dunno why the relationship/love life/want bf-gf/bf-gf requirements questions are asked to everyone in every single events. Personally, I’d like to read about something more special because whenever these questions are asked, I can predict the answers of the artists.

      7. Cannot expect much coz the “safe mode” is on whenever this type of question is asked. Even the normal people when asking such question will go for sth general first.
        For me, to ask for a man who make more money than you is not to be blamed at all. When he make more money than you (on his own), to some extent, he can be considered smarter and wiser, and can be leaned on.

      8. @ NX

        “When he make more money than you (on his own), to some extent, he can be considered smarter and wiser, and can be leaned on.”

        Presuming you don’t make that much yourself…

        Since I aspire to be both successful and earn a decent living, I find it greedy to expert my (future) other half to make more than me.

        Which is another point. Actresses generally make a pretty decent living so they do not need a man to be wealthy enough to “take care” of them.

      9. To have him make more money than you doesnt mean that you will use his money.

      10. It is shown in reality that if the wife is the one who earns the most in the family, there are many risks :). In most of the cases, the husband will feel annoyed and the wife will feel unsecured, especially in Asia.

        It isn’t greedy but somehow, realistic :). When I was small, I thought of “love” as the highest priority and “love” can do anything. When I grew up, I know that a marriage need more than that and love has many levels and in many forms. There are many factors affecting love, money is one.

        And overall, a super rich and successful woman still can have the hope of leaning on his man, not do everything by herself.

      11. advo, I agree with you.
        My husband is a very average man who have a 8AM-5PM job, so do I.
        He is not rich, but then he is caring husband who cooks, clean the house, even clean the toilet. Picky man, who likes to do things his way.
        Sometimes they lack something but they make up for it with another thing. A man might not be rich, but hey if I have a job, he also have a job, and he is a decent guy with a good heart, then that is good enough, I’m happy with that.
        advo, you have QQ? I read your comments and I like your comments and want to be friends with you.

      12. LeilaFan,
        “Sometimes they lack something but they make up for it with another thing.”

        That’s a good way to look at things! You and your husband sound as if you have a good partnership!

      13. @ NX

        If the point is not to use his money and you make a good living yourself then why is money a priority over everything else? Which is essentially what you’re saying if you say it’s a “requirement”.

        @ Fox

        Lots of unreliable and immoral men makes tons of money (mafia/triads, Wall Street, con artists). Likewise, some decent guys don’t not make lots of money – especially in the creative fields. But does that mean they can’t be leaned on? I understand your point if he’s so penniless that he can’t feed himself but otherwise, no.

        For me, if you earn enough to be comfortable then money is not an indicator of how you can be “leaned upon”. I’m much more interested in if you will contribute as much to household chores, child rearing etc.

        I do agree with you that if the wife makes more, it can cause friction for some (many) men. Which is why it’s understandable not to want a significant gap. But that’s not the same as saying make more money than you.

      14. @ LeilaFan

        You sound like you got lucky in the husband department!

        I don’t have QQ though, but thank you for your compliment. 😀

      15. I blv NX means that a man who can be successful and earn much money, it shows that he has talents in something that can help them to earn that much of money. Even being a mafia, it isn’t easy to climb to the top chief.

        And this man works, not cross fingers and wait for money to come from wife.

      16. @ Fox

        I like your your quote: “A super rich and successful woman still can have the hope of leaning on his man, not do everything by herself…”

        Sometimes at work we strive for efficiency and multi task and project manage everything, push our subordinates to perform… My partner gets annoyed with me when I go into that mode off work, and yes, I try to relax and just chill outside of office. He can make the decisions and of course (too many times) I come back with my opinions…

    2. Doesn’t matter what Ray and Kates’ answer to the question is, people will still say something negative about it or dislike it in some way.

      1. And again, haters gonna hate!

        Something bad = bash
        Something good = ignore or look at the bad side of it

  7. I always feel sorry for Rain and Linda. Their efforts can’t work. And PSS, even with not much efforts like Rain and Linda, still can be remembered forever.

    1. Perhaps they do not wish to be romantically linked to Ray forever over establishing their own career.

      1. @ NX

        And you base this on? I will be the absolutely first to admit that I don’t like Linda, find her acting and singing laughable. Yet, I would never try to claim she hasn’t established a career. She talks about possibly dating RL in one recent article and suddenly, it’s her trying to cling to his popularity? GMAB.

        As for Rain, kindly point me to where she “tried in vain” to capitalise on her once romantic story with RL.

      2. @advo: Sorry to reply on NX’s behalf :D.

        You can check for the news during PSS time and few months after that, Rain told the reporters on her lovestory with LF 4-5 times, to say that they dated and their love dun last long and how ppl dun believe that they dated, etc.

        For Linda, the best example is the recent article :). She suddenly mentioned of him, and it linked to several news now as the Rayda rumour time is like coming back. The reporters keep asking them about the relationship or the chance of reunite. And perfect time for the new series of Linda to be aired in the few next weeks after one aired. Do you see Linda mentioned of the rumour with Ron, for example?

        It can be a way to establish the career.

      3. Thanks Fox!
        Advo, you gave the example yourself.
        But however they tried, people only think of PSS first, that’s why they are “trying in vain”.

      4. @ Fox

        Did Rain approach the reporters to tell her story? Or did the Mavis thing make reporters seek out his past romantic love interests for more tabloid fodder? See the difference?

        Linda recently, supposedly broke up with her boyfriend. Could that make a girl pensive about her life? She has TV shows (too many for my taste!) every single year, haven’t needed to use this “romantic” connection to promote her (not their) shows in the past but now she does? Has something happened to Linda’s career or something to suddenly make her so desperate to cling to fame?

      5. @ NX

        One example of what exactly? Blatant famewh*ring from a failing artist or a celebrity who’s reflecting over her romantic history after a failed relationship?

        Tell me, if they are so desperate to be linked to RL then why didn’t either women date (or admit to dating) him? Since he himself has admitted to have possessed “good feelings” for them.

      6. Rain approached the reporters or not, how can I know, lolz. But PSS, Next told that she found them.

        Linda claimed that she didn’t breakup with Philip, or can say in other word that she said she hasn’t dated him :P. As for using romantic rumour to promote series, oh well, it’s a gimmick of Txb. A quite old gimmick in fact. Haha, maybe she dun seek for promotion this time, but the timing is quite close so can’t be ignored.

        Even with differences, the matter is that ppl dun care about Rain and Linda’s effort 😛 while PSS, even if she dun contact the reporters anymore, ppl still use her as the only reference. This is why I’m pitying for them. They are “forgotten”.

      7. @advo: Rain admitted she dated him, lolz. Maybe few years later, Linda will admit. She half admitted now 😛 (having good feeling, considered of dating).

      8. @Advo: And wat do you expect LF to answer when reporters approached him and asked if he had good feelings for them (Rain & Lin) since they admitted to have dated/have feelings with/for him?

        “I dumped them” or “who are they?” LOL

      9. Adding sth here, before the Mavis incident, Linda did not have to ask, she would automatically be linked with LF even in the most ridiculous and irrelevant news (stories of LF went shopping with relatives, LF looked at jewels, etc. with big photos of her besides). She’s even have a section in I am Bang named “Lam Fung Lam Fung Lam Fung”. But after the incident, her spot was replaced by Mavis. Thought that the link btw them have died until she suddenly mentioned him again. Poor girl trying so hard.

      10. @ NX

        I expect him to answer whatever is the truth. If they are lying, I don’t expert him to co-operate. If they are telling the truth, then what’s wrong with that and why does he need to respond in any specific way?

      11. So in the conclusion, we can agree that they seem to date (in the past) :P. They here referring to LF + Rain and Linda.

      12. @ Fox

        Since you pointed out that Rain has in fact admitted it, then yes, they must have dated. As for Linda, she hasn’t admitted it – yet! Who’s next? Wasn’t Michelle Yip tied to him too?

      13. @advo,

        You simply can’t take his words at face value e.g. the Mavis gate. He needs to say what he belives his fangirls wants to hear, LOL.

        BTW this thread looks his LF land and I need to leave ASAP in fear of getting attacked 🙂

      14. @exoidus: LOL, if you are really frightening, you won’t read this thread at first place. You are just acting like you are frightening and being attacked by others. In fact, nobody is touching you.

      15. @Fox,

        You are not me so how can you know for sure that im not scared leh? I had to gather my inner strength in order to post here in the first place and now im taking another risk to reply you, LOL.

      16. P/S: If you are really frightening, lolz, it’s too chicken of a man.

      17. Call me cynical but unfortunately I agree with Fox.

        Come on girls, his star is much bigger than yours at the moment. What you had with him was in the past.

        If you bring it up now it will just look bad on you, especially if you were not on a roll like he is still currently. Besides he has new gfs now (after you). People will be talking about his latest and yours was gone.

        The smart thing to do would have been to not talk about him and wistful “could have beens”…

    2. @ Fox

      I only recalled Rain admitting to having feelings for Ray but that they were newbies at the time so didn’t pursue it. I didn’t know she actually admitted to dating him.

      Regardless. The public didn’t know about Mavis until the “scandal” blew up. Since her rise to fame is attributed her connection to RL, then of course she will always be associated with him. At least until she actually gets fame for something else.

      It’s different for Linda and Rain who attained fame on their own “merit”.

      Agreeing to disagree on their “efforts”.

      1. She said that they dated. Very clear.

        I don’t say that PSS’s fame dun have the contributions from the scandal with LF or Linda/Rain dun have own career (actually PSS also have one but she isn’t as popular in HK as Linda/Rain. To say that the public dun noe her until the scandal isn’t correct). I’m saying that Rain and Linda admitted/half admitted the love relationship with LF, but whenever his requirements are referred, they are not mentioned and “forgotten”. Poor them for this.

      2. I mean that Mavis wasn’t known mainstream until the “scandal”.

        But your pitying them implies there’s something to aspire to in being forever connected to Ray’s love life. And I disagree on this. And I disagree on them wanting, wishing, aspiring to this.

      3. Maybe not forever but at least at this moment, lolz. Forever or not, have to wait in the future to see. But at this moment, can be seen.

        To think, Linda wasn’t known mainstream until the “love rumour” with LF in 2006 time :). So it’s a similar point of them, hehe.

      4. @ Fox

        Have to disagree on Linda’s fame too. I always thought she was being heavily promoted by TVB right from the beginning. But her name blowing up could just as well be attributed to the enormous (unwarranted) success of HOG.

      5. Yup, and I’m talking about the period before HOG :P. It’s the moment when the Rayda rumour first started.

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