Raymond Lam and Tavia Yeung Counter Criticisms of “Three Kingdoms RPG”

Despite averaging 30 ratings points in its premiere broadcast, Three Kingdoms RPG <回到三國> has been criticized by viewers as being a low-budget production. The props and rudimentary computer graphics were ridiculed. The fiercest criticism was directed at Kenneth Ma (馬國明) for his exaggerated acting in portraying a time traveler to the Three Kingdoms era. Viewers also complained that Raymond Lam’s (林峯) slow reactions in the drama made Zhuge Liang appear dumb!

Raymond Lam Defends “Three Kingdoms RPG”

Yesterday, Raymond Lam, Kenneth Ma, Tavia Yeung, Sharon Chan (陳敏之) and Kaki Leung (梁嘉琪) appeared at a promotional event. Portraying brilliant military strategist, Zhuge Liang, in Three Kingdoms RPG, Raymond’s genteel manner was a stark contrast to Kenneth’s outlandish and street-smart ways. Appearing with a full beard throughout the drama, Raymond was careful not to laugh too loudly during filming,  “I laughed like Santa Claus in the series because I was afraid that my beard would fall off!”

Regarding complaints that Kenneth was too old to portray a video gamer, Raymond replied, “A television drama is an entertainment medium; it is more important that everyone enjoys watching it. Kenneth Ma’s personality tends to be quiet, so his performance this time is a major breakthrough! I portray a historical figure, while Kenneth plays a modern character. Of course, the manner in which we speak will be different!”

Tavia Yeung Supports Kenneth Ma

Tavia Yeung also did not feel that Kenneth Ma was too old to portray the role of “Sima Shun” in Three Kingdoms RPG. Tavia said, “I do not think that he is too old. His performance is very good. There is not distinguishing as to how old a diamond bachelor is; he can be 50 years old!”

Tavia denied that the production was shoddy in quality, but the drama did not warrant staging large military battles as it was a comedy foremost. Tavia felt that it was more important to deliver a humorous and refreshing feeling to the audience, by contrasting the differences between ancient and modern perspectives.

Addressing criticisms against his exaggerated acting, Kenneth said, “Yes, the character is very ‘high’ and cannot be too quiet!”

Despite the criticism that the low-quality production did not do justice to a drama revolving around the Three Kingdoms era, the drama has captured the attention of viewers and was hotly discussed in online forums.  With Raymond Lam focusing more on his music and film career, he is currently filming only one TVB drama per year. As his TVB drama output decreases, fans will likely cherish his television performances more and continue to watch ensuing episodes of Three Kingdoms RPG.

Source: Ming Pao, Oriental Daily

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Jayne: Shoddy production details or not, the casting of Raymond, Kenneth, and Tavia have a huge fan base that should draw in strong ratings. The production quality is still TVB standard, in which battle scenes feel as if they filmed in the backyard.

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  1. Just enjoy for what it is. So far it’s pretty funny, and I find myself actually laughing out loud. Never thought I’d say this…Kenneth is hilarious!

    1. yes. ma ming is hilarious and made the series funny :). The series has reached 35 points peak in ratings as at 2nd episode

      1. It’s said that 35 was the first scene when CKL appeared :p.

      2. So what if 35 was from the CKL’s first scene, foxy? your point is? no one say that it came from other scene, foxy. Don’t be afraid.. we know, we know.. LF is the best lol. No need to keep on pointing that out and to prove to others.

      3. You know what my point is, don’t you? If you don’t know, then you are the one who is concerning if it comes from other scenes or not.

        Good job!

        I’m the best, not him :P.

      4. P/S: Can you reply faster, my dearest little friend Iga? I’m waiting for you! I’m having a boring rainy Saturday here and thank you for light up my day.

      1. These are my summaries of actors’ characteristic in potraying CKL namely:-

        Takeshi Kaneshiro(movie)= handsome, cool ,fast pace ,idealist

        Lu Yi(china production) = mandom , cool ,slower pace, smart and idealist

        LF (TVB production) = handsome, cool ,naive -slow pace (early part of series), ,smarter and faster pace-brighter (later part of series) after influenced & partially assisted by sima yuen ‘s future gadget) , chok and idealist

      2. LF as CKL is ANYTHING but naive. he is just not exposed to modern technologies and facts. And without all these he can still figure out certain things. That is not naive. Sima Shun is naive. Give the same knowledge and technology to CKL and he can conquer the world.

        And he is no slow paced. LF is because to show a more educated learned man, he has to move at a slower pace.

      3. Lu Yi is handsome! I like both but Lu Yi is more handsome than Takeshi Kaneshiro in my opinion :). Or I like Lu Yi’s look more. But both handsome :D.

        And right, LF’s CKL is anything but naive. Sima Shun is naive. No part he is assisted by Sima Shun’s Xperia up to now. All from his head.

      4. Thanxs for the feedbacks,

        I recorrect the word ‘naive’ to moderate ignorant in modern technologies and facts .

        But according to historical facts , other than a great war strategist, CKL is also a great inventor – mantao(bun),automatic cross bow, stone sentinel maze (modern water damn) and hung ming lantern.

      5. Yes CKL is a renaissance man. Many strategists were.

      6. Of course CKL is ignorant in modern technologies and facts since those things have yet to happen yet.

  2. I do not understand the continuous criticisms of Kenneth being too old to play a video gamer. I don’t think there’s a specific set age for video gamers although generally, they’re played by teenagers most. Plus, Kenneth is aging very well and does not look close to his 40’s, early 30’s, yes.

    I prefer Kenneth’s “exaggerated” acting over Raymond’s mellow tone. The pop culture references, of course, makes Kenneth’s character more fun to watch, but Raymond makes Zhuge Liang quite boring and sleep-inducing. I’m usually up for “strategic” plots, but he doesn’t make it interesting/exciting at all. Takeshi Kaneshiro did a much more witty job in Red Cliff.

    I wonder how important Tavia’s role will be. So far, she has only appeared in 2 episodes, with very limited scene. So far she’s more likable than in the last few professional roles she played (TOT and THC). For some reason, professional roles makes her a little cocky, maybe it’s the nose haha?

    I don’t have much complaints on this series and it’s one of more “exciting” dramas in a while with all the debates, discussion, and front-line actors. It’s a nice, enjoyable comedy for the most part, but very laugh-worthy if you treat it as a serious historical epic. The only noticeable complaint I would have for now is Savio and Jimmy who plays Lee Kwok Lun’s “brothers”… they are so loud in reciting their lines, but it’s how they are.

    Btw, who is Mary Hon’s character in history? And why does Lee Kwok Lun’s army have to submit to her?

  3. Some netizens are too picky! 3 Kingdom is fantastic so far. It’s very funny and entertaining.

    It’s unfair to compare this with Step into the Past which has more serious theme and bigger budget.

  4. Now, I know why Kenneth exaggerated his acting. Despite that, I really like this serie. I had good laugh during Kenneth’s scenes.

    In my opinion, Raymond did a good job in this serie and I really like his voice. He is a right candidate to portray Zhuge Liang.

    Jonathan Cheung also did a good job for his role (Fan Gun) too.

    1. ma ming and fan Gen are very funny. Their parts steal the scene and they have great chemistry!

      imo Raymond’s zhuge liang is average. Many times he still remind me of Raymond himself and at other times his movements seem a bit deliberate.

      1. it is not easy to act as CKL because he needs to show his emotions through his calm actions and expressions and atm, i think ray is doing a pretty good job while kenneth’s role is easier to act as all he needs to do is exaggerate and exaggerate (which is okay since he is supposed to be the funny one)

      2. LF isnt a slow person? Someone can name himself 3 years old 2 months (32) isnt slow, lolz. So how can he is LF himself? He isnt a boring guy, too. How can boring with a 36D ex =)).

        If that, CKL is the funny guy and Sima Shun is the boring guy. Haha not that…

        But agree that Johnathan steal the scenes. Whenever he is with MM I watch him :p.

      3. maybe you’d experienced with LF also? cause you seem so sure that he isn’t boring. Or.. are you having 36D cups also, foxy? lol

      4. Yup!! Very much agree!! B4 I watch the drama, as I read Lotsa comments that Ron shld play the character instead of Kenneth. But after watching it, Kenneth really do give an excellent performance!! He is so cute n funny!! I seriously don’t think the WOODY Ron can act that well xD

    1. on to the females, i found myself liking kaki’s role and appearance better than tavia.

      1. i agreed! kaki delivered her character quite well.

  5. I understand where people are coming from this, as the Three Kingdoms Era are one of the most profilic history of China, so of course people would be expecting better visual effects and all. But this is a comedy and I don’t think people should be too serious with their criticisms.

    I do not agree about Kenneth being too old. He gave me the impression that he was trying to potray a 30-something-year-old character, not a “youth” as reviews say. Misunderstanding of context, maybe?

    Perhaps I’m biased as I am a huge Raymond Lam fan so I won’t stop watching this series, I enjoy it actually!

    1. too old for the role isn’t ma ming, it’s tavia wrongly casted for that young maid role 🙂

      1. Yeah. Tavia should be playing young mother roles. She does not fit young roles anymore.

    2. The poor cgi didn’t bother me at all. I watch this for laugh and I get it. 🙂

    1. HOmeboy, nerd, neet, mama boy. Immature boy overall.

      1. no different than you, fox. You’re also immature to the core with your sarcasm lol. 😛

      2. Yup, I’m young at heart and I admit that, my little friend :). Youth gone wild! Yay!

        Haha, I’m not a 宅男 btw because I’m not 男.

  6. i dont mind kenneth, im enjoying his “exaggerations”, raymond is rather slow… his kinda boring so far (but then again his playing the serious side and kenneth – comedy) but i can deal with it, but tavia… i cant take her as the “beautiful maid”…. when she had her first scene when kenneth sees her and shes meant to be seen in a “beautiful” light… i was thinking… ah… no… the nose is too distracting

    1. Haha… yes, she looked better when “blurry”. It’s like how someone looks hotter to u when you’re drunk!

    2. that’s why i said kaki’s appearance is better to watch than tavia and funny that kaki isn’t a pretty girl. i can’t take tavia as the beautiful and young maid too.

      1. But yuet ying’s weak, sickly act is a drag. Does she have chronic bronchitis or TB? Drink some ginseng or something already!

      2. Ah Keung is a poor man. In the history Yuet Ying gave birth to 2 sons of Ah Leung. So is the series the same? I hope!

      3. Huang Yue Ying only gave birth to Zhuge Liang’s sons after 20 years into their marriage. Unless the 60 years later plot is true, I doubt the series will show this.

      4. Man, how will she survive childbirth and live that long? She looks like she’s gonna cough blood and die at any time.

    3. And the thick makeup. I feel every girls around her, except Mary Hon, look younger than the 23 year old mei ren.

      Sima Shun appeared as someone with high requirements on beauty, is he? Or that’s the order of director.

      1. LOL I saw the think makeup too. ROFL how can maid in that time got caked up face

      2. Mary Hon look like she has a PS enhance, she look kinda odd to me or mayb is just the make up.

    4. Ya, tavia is wrong for the role, n you right, the nose is distracting..

  7. You know, never ask Tavia to counter criticims. The production when it comes to the battle is shoddy and there will be battle scenes since this is 3 kingdoms. Anyway I find Tavia too old for her role. How come no one mention that but keeps pushing on the kenneth too old remark?

    1. I was thinking the same thing. Of course tavia has to defend Kenneth cuz if he’s too old, then what does that make her?!

      BTW, I wonder how many complaints they will get after that bath scene in episode 5 btwn the 3 old guys. I found it quite disturbing! 😮

      Now if it was LF and Kenneth having that friendly hot springs scene, then I wouldn’t mind. Heck, even let shun’s man servant, Gan, rub their backs. Very Roman empire master-slave feel…

      1. AH Leung will join the bath soon, dun be worried josie. But with the 3 men :p. And a scarf on neck to cover most of important parts lolz.

      2. haiz what a shame with the most important part covered

      3. I can’t take Gan as Shun’s manservant however docile he acts in front of Shun. He’s the one who sheltered Shun, and gave him clothes, food, and money when Shun first went back to 3 Kingdom era. I can’t see someone like this as manservant. I can only see them as friends, brothers or buddies.

      4. Kidd:

        If u have a buddy that likes to massage your shoulders or give u back rub, I say that’s a kinky friendship. 😉

      5. What’s so kinky? In korea grown up men rub each other’s shoulder fully naked in shower! Anyway I do see Kan as servant. He sees himself as lower status than Shun and in this context he is. But who says loyal servant can’t be a confidant?

    2. yes. tavia is the one not fitting for her beautiful young maid role but how come the press don’t mention this? imo her screentime are the less enjoyable of all.

      1. u beak my heart. U know? (joking)
        Tavia is starting growing back more younger and meatier tis year compare 2011. So give her sometime to gain back her prettiness. Please show mercy 😀

      2. Aww I’m so sorry :(. I don’t mean to be so. Why don’t think that I’m praising MM to be young, or in your eyes he is old? Ok, kidding :P.

        I’ll give her 1 more year :P. At least after 3K I won’t have chance to see her on any series anymore, LMAO~.

      3. I’m afraid you have to because LF still have work at TVB therefore anytime u will force to watch Fungyi series :p

      4. This year :D. I give her one more year, I’ve said that.

      5. aww but bad news for you is that LF is done with tvb series this year so no fungyi series for anyone until a very long long long time (or maybe even forever if they dont pair) 😀

      6. who know future. There are high probability and chances.

      7. Yup, don’t say anything of the future. Who noe next year they might pair up again. But LKH left Txb so no chance for 3K 2 :P.

        But so far this year the FY fans only can hope for the next year. Don’t scratch their dream, subtleness.

      8. Nice picture. In fact Tavia looks lovely with this type of hair, professional, mature but slightly more prettier. However she must steer clear of early 20s role because her face, if she plays 30s I can accept that and I would even say she looks pretty.

    3. Way too old. Should have cast a younger actress.

  8. I almost bored to death to watch same kind of old grandma story come from 80s 90s. The Only interaction between Kenneth and Tavia more appealing to me even though the screen time very short.

    1. You like lousy couple. I like grandma lovestory. But grandma lovestory has younger ppl :p.

      1. ok ..different taste therefore no use to continue debating

      2. How can? In real age it is so! Not mention of the look!

    2. Immature girl is on strike again LOL. Such a shame that LF has such a fan like foxy baby

      1. Lolz. If it can comfort yourself, just think that. I don’t mind :), my dearest little friend.

  9. I really like LF as Zhuge Liang, he is adorable and smart. Wise man does not have to be talkative or fast in reactions. they think fast.

    1. I like your quote. Wise man dun need to talk or move fast, they need to think fast. Yup!

      1. Sure.. cause he’s LF who can’t do wrong in foxy’s eyes.. yes? lol

      2. Nope, I just like this quote.

        He did many things wrong, including accepting MOL last time.

      3. BTW, do you know any wise man who think slow? Slow, not careful. It applies to everyone wise man, and woman.

  10. Kaki! She is pretty. Look at the function pix ytd and pretty Kaki.

  11. KM isn’t that old WTF these crazy Ron fans should stop this madness and making normal Ron fans look bad.

    LF isn’t a bad ZGL! ZGL is a calm person! It doesn’t mean he’s boring!

    TY is the who looks old and caked up under layers of makeup. ROFL a maid in ancient series wearing that much makeup

  12. Wtf tavia rocks in this drama. Her innocent looks are just precious. As if anyone of you here can do as good as her. It is a drama obviously you need makeup and it is not her who wants to put who much makeup it is the makeup artist. U think wearing so much makeup is fun? I don’t think so. I think tavia fits this role well. Stop criticizing people and get a life. As long as everyone do their very best.

    1. But again like all the tavia’s fans said this site is full of tavia yeung’s haters so no comment on that. :\

      1. Tis side also contain full of Tavia’s lover. Fair game

    2. yup , putting make up is not fun thing when the time you have to remove your make time u will feel arghh!!

      1. Huh? Why arghh? I removed makeup many times and none I have to scream.

      2. Very thick make up consume much time and effort to remove. Not to scream but feel to arghh.

      3. I blv it takes more time to makeup than to remove it, due to self experience :). And thick makeup is also bad for skin. That’s why I support suitable makeup.

        I don’t like the makeup in Txb ancient series recently. Too thick, too fake. Look at the girls in China gong series, in HD their skin look a lot firmer.

      4. @ Fox

        I hate to be the one defending Tavia… but aren’t the women in Gong not quite a bit younger? So ofc, their skin would be firmer.

      5. Yup ppl in Gong was a lot younger but in says of gong series in general :). There are a lot of gong series in China now. And of course there are older actresses. In general, the makeup of China series are a lot better than Txb’s.

      6. @ Fox

        I didn’t actually watch Gong since I thought the show sounded stupid, but I know Yang Mi is the lead and she is much younger. In general, it seems to me like they get to lead much younger in Mainland, like Yang Mi for Gong, Liu Shi Shi for BBJX while all the current fa dans in TVB are nearing the 30 year old mark. So it’s not really a fair comparison, since older women’s skin will not be as good. As for better makeup, perhaps, they do apply much lighter in Mainland, but since their skin is in much better condition – they do not need much makeup to begin with. OTOH, I think LSS was very stressed during the filming of BBJX because her skin definitely broke out and it was very obvious in HD. So I would not say that’s better makeup.

      7. How about older women like Hu Ying or Gao Yuen Yuen? Or Gao Yuen Yuen was born in 1975 and she looks a lot younger in series with bright makeup.

        The skin of Sheren Tang, for example, in new Pearl princess is firmer than in Rosy business 3, it’s the reference.

      8. Who care about her thick make up if she can act well? Who in TVB don’t have thick make-up? Goodness!! I realise as long as it is about TY, there are alot of comments. Don’t know she is so popular even with those fan who dislike her…LOL!!

    3. Lolz, nobody here is a full time actress. It’s like you have to tell TY to do the master course, for example. Or being a secretary or administrator. Can she?

      Wearing makeup isn’t fun, then why she dun request to have less makeup?

      1. She can’t request for lesser makeup. It is all up to the makeup artist she can’t do anything about it. If she want lesser makeup she can do it herself then why do tvb needs to hire professional artist that is because u need perfect makeup to make a perfect drama of course. THINK MAN!! It is all up to the company, director and producer.

      2. Oh and to expand, Txb’s makeup are bad recently. Don’t know how good their makeup artists are.

        But in function, TY also uses makeup artist? Why I also see her with thick makeup?

  13. Is Raymond’s contract with TVB ending soon? Somehow, I feel he will leave TVB to focus his career only in films and music. And, the last thing that will complete his “journey’ at TVB is the award, TV King. Or, he might switch to a per-series contract for a few years. But, he’s already filming one series a year. I don’t know how long it’ll last.

    Quite a few new users lately. I wonder if it’s just one with multiple accounts. 😛

    1. LF already almost leaving TVB by only 1 series a year and more singing and movies LOL. If he get the BA this year his TVB world is complete 😛

    2. He signed a new contract with Txb last year, so he’ll stay with Txb until 2017. All the time he signed 5 years. But his new contract is really 1 series per year + right of choosing series. Last in next 5 years.

      1. I think it’s much better that he now has the right to choose, but with TVB’s limited creative juices, no wonder that he hasn’t been filming much and focuses on other things.

      2. That means he choose HAL right? HAL looks like a good series that an actor will choose.

      3. Yes, High and Lows is a good choice and I sure hope he wins the Best Actor Award from it.

  14. @fox- I know you hate or dislike tavia so I have no argument on that as everyone have their own opinion.

  15. It’s annoying to see Fox everywhere. He or she is Tavia’s hater but she/he seems to be in every Tavia’s news. She/he even knows more stuff about Tavia than her fans. Ok, we know you hate Tavia and you’re a hardcore hater, but you don’t have to go everywhere to point out that she’s old, criticize her nose, even bash her fans’ favorite pairing.

    1. Oh you noticed that too,.. Fox seems to be commenting a lot when there is something to do with tavia and she/he will also scold or comment her fans. I think if you hate someone you should just ignore that person rather than kept on insulting that person.

      1. Your wish really made me laugh. It makes you look like a blind angry fan :). Alright,even if I have any mischance like you wished, I still wish you good :).

    2. Hey, it’s unfair to me! =.=.

      I also comment on checkbone, makeup, acting and else of her. In fact I commented on nose less because her face has more than a nose. However the nose is prominent. :).

      Is it a shame that even fans dun know about her as much as a hater? You have to check if you like her enough or not, lolz.

      Btw you can find me in most of news including TY’s :). Fair game. You cant ignore my comments then why I have to ignore her news? :p

      1. But mainly Everytime there is something to do with TY u must talk something bad about her. I never see you complimenting her. If you hate a person why must you show it out. If someone hate you do you want that person to point out all the bad points about you? In life everyone have a weakness and everyone knows TY’s weakness but why must you point out and make it obvious? Hey, I mean TY have good points too.

      2. you must miss out something, I dont blame you because Im a frequent commentor and I basically comment in most of topic.

        To correct, I think she was pretty until HOG before her new face. Second, she can act in tragedy, not perfect acting like you claimed but tolerable. Third she has facial expessions, not woody type. But overall her acting is typical herself in years and no improvement. I admit I had expectations on her but she dun meet it. So I dont see her stepping out of safe zone or something that can make me impressed or at least can say: oh she has some improvements.

        But you are right, not only her. Many ppl dun have improvements :). That’s why I dun like acting of a lot of artists that I liked in the past.

      3. P*S: she is a public icon and her acting + appearance are suspected to be judged and commented by the audiences. You wont do that for some ppl but for an artist, it’s normal. If cant tolerate these things, I think you should go to the fansite only because there you wont see criticisms.

      4. Even though if you dislike artists’ acting now you shouldn’t complain or comment on them. Are you a professional actor or actress? I don’t think so. Have you ever taken acting classes before? Not quite. Btw I am not a fan of tavia but I just dislike people commenting on artists when they themselves are not as good as them.

      5. Alright let’s end here. U r right and I am wrong. Peace!

      6. Before you go, read this: we are not full time artists, we dun need to act. We are audiences, we pay to see public icons so we can have requirements.

        Btw above you said like you are a fan, now you are not?

      7. I’ve said above: Give TY the essay of a student or ask her to be a clerk or an engineer, can she do? No she cant. So dun request ppl to act before they can judge the acting. It’s her job and we are indirectly or directly pay her.

      8. It’s her job and we are indirectly or directly pay her.

        Ur statement seems a bit force to accept. The artist only responsible for their company and the advertiser that really pay them $$$$$. I dun think you have contribute tis $$$$$$$ amount for her to entertain u then I dun think she own ur money to entertain u. Unless you paid $$$ for the artist concert then u have the right speak like a boss.

      9. Ok u win. But I never said I am a fan of her. Second- I noticed that you mostly judge on her nose. Is there something wrong? Jealous I perhaps.

      10. I dun feel u pay penny for her then what make u feel she deserve to entertain u. Ur statement make me feel of she own u money .

      11. If ppl dun watch her series, pay for dvd, buy products she is spokenperson, then can she be paid, a-pop?

        Jk, you sound like a fan very much. But if you like to say you are not, ok :). I dun comment much on the noses but the whole face more! Noted that. And if I have to jealous with her new face, I’m afraid that my standard is too low :(. I cant blv you think that of me… Im hurt, do you know?

      12. All the artists are for the purpose of entertain us, a-pop. I see it as their job and duty. They dun do these things for charity.

        It’s a direct pay in some cases like this: we buy the album, a part of the amount is sent to the artist for each album sold. Indirect is like that: we watch the series or buy dvd, company pays them.

      13. I don’t think your face is as pretty as hers right. I know she is not as pretty as fala chan or Myolie wu or Linda Chung but she is considered a pretty girl. Yup I admit I sound like one but I am not one.

      14. then does she own u because u watch her series? She public figure ,she get money from advertisement , filming series so does it mean u personally pay for her to satisfied u.

        Come on , dun make artists seems own public because they get paid from job they get.

      15. yup it is their job to act well what they paid to act , sing all the best they can what they paid to sing .
        However they does not own public anything. U will not buy the artist album if they not ur favorite, buy the dvd if u feel the show is worthless and went to their concert if their singing not good for u.

        *they own public nothin because its reciprocal. U dun like u will not pay

      16. I don’t pay for her, maybe :). But you might pay for her. And her fans pay for her. She dun own me but own you.

        I say in general, the work of artists are paid by the audiences, then the audiences have the right to require good quality stuffs.

        But you definitely sound like a true fan, a-pop. Maybe I view them differently. I don’t set them as anyone I have to learn but someone who have the job and duty to entertain me. It can explain our differences in the way of talking about artist. Overall, I’m not a true fan, haha.

        @jk: I think I’m prettier than her, ok :P? Why I have to feel any worse than anyone? I’m myself and I’m proud of myself with everything I have now.

      17. Maybe I’m the rarely one that appreciate and sympathy all the artist and production crew that have sacrifice their sleeping, resting time .effort ,health in order to produce a entertainment product. Every one of them deserve credit even though their performance and outcome very bad. If I not fond in particular music ,artist or show ,I rather just skip it rather telling how bad they are.

        Criticism are good . can let someone know there have room of improvement but the dosage must suitable in order make everyone comfortable with the critic.

      18. Finally you admit that you are not a fan of her in other words dislike as I read one article and saw your comment that you dislike her. So no argument. Peace!

      19. But anyway thanks for telling me what ‘fadans’ means. Appreciate that. 🙂

      20. I said many times: I HATE her, ok? Not dislike, not a fan.

        A-pop: who dun work hard? Ppl who are doing other jobs also work hard. Some are even harder. TY isnt the most hardworking in the world or even Txb. So I dun see why must treat her special. Of course, if she is sick or something, wish her can recover. I dun want any bad to come to her or wish her bad. But that dun change the fact that I think their job is to entertain us, not that we have to think of them as god/goddess or untouchable ppl.

      21. and you dun like to do a thing dun mean you can force others to do such thing. And it isnt an order at all.

      22. yup.. people work hard for earning their living. We still have to go on with our life so just enjoy yup..

      23. Wait by my opinion,.. a-pop didn’t ask u to think them as a god/goddess. I dont think you are making any sense around here. :/

      24. Right. Just do things entertaining us. Good day a-pop.

        Jk, a-pop understands it.

  16. Fox is creepy with her infatuation of Raymond Lam. His face is all plastic for goodness’ sakes!

    1. Yes you are so right, then he us plastic dun mean TY isnt one. Maybe it’s best couple in your eyes? A common thing? But I suspect he spent more money to his face more than her. Well, dont be stingy when it comes to beauty :).

      1. Haha… u get what u paid for. Maybe tavia should ask for a refund.

      2. Who noe if she asked? She loves money, doesnt her?

    2. well the plastic looks more natural than someone’s else plastic which just sticks out and steals the whole spotlight

  17. For the makeup matter, according to Kaki Leung, the artist uses their own makeup artists to makeup for them in Txb series and function or else. Txb has makeup artists but dun use if there is private makeup artist of this person. One makeup artist can work with a lot of artists but will have a big star as main client.

    Hence, the makeup on series is the choice of artists themselves. For example, Kaki dun use fake eyelids for her role in 3k because her role is a sick women. Enhancing for this point by the comment of Kate Tsui last time, she said when she acted Monkey in A great way to care, she is a cop so cant use too much makeup. Tat’s why she used nude makeup. Ella Koon shares the same opinion.

    So in fact, the makeup is deemed to be the decision of the artists and not Txb’s. They’ll choose the way of makeup that they think to be suitable to their role and costumes.

    1. What are you trying to say? Are to trying to say tavia puts on too much makeup anglian and trying to attack again. After numerous times? Again and again?

      1. Nope, I correct myself for the makeup issue, too. And it’s said by me that not only TY but Txb overall has bad makeup in recent ancient series and there is reason for this – depends on each person who choose the makeup for themselves, then some has good money to invest, some not. And also the habits, some like thick, some like light makeup.

  18. Lol,.. How do u guys know tavia had plastic surgery by the way? She never admits it and there is no proof. Hmmm… Rumors!

    1. i wouldn’t even give a damn crap if others bash other artiste that i don’t like.. hmnn

    2. The photos speak from themselves. Its nose-worthly!

  19. I don’t think any public figures that have done plastic surgery would admit that they have done it.

    1. But you can’t say that they did plastic surgery too.

      1. And cant say they didnt. So blv in wat you blv and see things you want to see.

  20. It’s a waste of time arguing with Fox. Her/his comments/debates never make sense. I just feel sorry for her/him to spend so much time on someone she/he hates.

    1. Fox isn’t so bad at all. I have seen way more pathetic people that have no life and waste sooo much time on someone they don’t like as if they were obsessed with hating them or something… Others that I have seen blast not just the artists that they hate but people that defend them as well, and I must say that they aren’t fans either. They were just people that could not stand how badly some people go to far when some people constantly attack an artist that they hate for no good reason. I know there are so many strange people in this world…

      1. Hey, not only the anti fans react this way. The fans can bash/hate/can’t accept the ppl who don’t like/hate their faves and it is a fair game to both sides.

        I don’t hate ppl that I don’t know or without a reason :). But overall, love or hate is a part of the human’s emotions and can’t control it. BTW, I think that being strange in the limitation is ok. You are yourself. Just dun break the limitation :).

        For example: In Korea there were anti-fans who put gel on the bottle of an artist or in Japan there were anti-fans who threw stone to head of an artist. These actions got over the top.

    2. Lolz, since I’m free I have some good times to waste :P. I feel sorry for anyone who are getting mad at me just because I hate someone :P. And I hope you won’t be childish like jk to wish me bad luck because I doubt it will work :D.

  21. Yes the computer graphic are truely poor but the casts and the comedy plot has boosted the rating

  22. I realise some attention seeks here trying to get attention by critisizing TY. For TY’s fans, let get our own life..don’t need to get too hard over these attention seekers. When we critisize someone, just look at ourselves first. We are not Saint.

  23. What a huge debate over TY?! Take it easy. Let things go they own way. 🙂

  24. Are you guys ok? Everyone looks kinda piss off. :/

    1. Im ok but Im not sure of some TY fans :(. I hope they are ok or be calm soon.

    2. Why is it only with TY that we all look pissed off? I do recall there were some huge debates on Raymond as well, or Kenneth or everyone else. How come only TY is untouchable? I am sure she has fans here but there are fans who also recognises the fact that sometimes their idol is 100% up to par. We are not criticising her acting abilities, just the fact that she uses too much makeup. It is not wrong to say that.

      1. Her acting is very good and could consider better than Myolie even tho i like Myolie more.

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