Raymond Lam Depends On “Men With No Shadows” To Be Crowned TV King

By on September 10, 2011 in NEWS, TV Dramas

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TVB’s new drama, Men With No Shadows《不速之約》, starring Raymond Lam (林峯), Bobby Au-Yeung (歐陽震華) and Tavia Yeung (楊怡) will be succeeding the broadcasting time slot of Lives of Omission《潛行狙擊》.

Whether Raymond Lam could fight and eventually oust Laughing Gor Michael Tse (謝天華) from the TV King throne, relies heavily on his acting performance in “Men With No Shadows”.

Raymond has two drama series broadcasting this year. The first drama series was The Colorful World of Sister Fa《花花世界花家姐》with Charmaine Sheh (佘詩曼) however the reviews received were only of average. To make matters worse, Raymond was also plagued with the “Pan Shuang Shuang (潘霜霜)” scandal early this year, thus causing his vitality to fall short below expectations.

However, all was not lost as Raymond still has a final shot at the TV King award based on his second drama, “Men With No Shadows”.

In the drama, Raymond would be acting as a unfathomable devil and using his skills as “King of Chok”, Raymond was expected to captivate and electrify the audience with those “devilish red eyes”.

Furthermore, coupled with his alluringly cool image in the show,  it was rather obvious why Raymond’s appearance in “Men With No Shadows” was promised to be an eye-catching one.

The addition of Bobby and Tavia serves to conjure a chemical reaction

The producer of “Men With No Shadows”, Poon Ka Tak (潘嘉德) also strongly supported Raymond and praised that Raymond definitely had the capability to be crowned TV King.

Poon Ka Tak explained, “Raymond’s performance this time ’round is completely different from the past roles that he had acted in. His role as Tai Fung [Raymond’s role in “Men With No Shadows”] is nothing like the usual Raymond Lam and his character will undergo monumental changes such that he is mysterious and unfathomable.”

Poon Ka Tak continued, “Raymond is very talented in terms of acting performances and this drama enables him to make full use of his acting skills. But of course, “Men With No Shadows” has many other good actors too. If not for Bobby’s convincing turn in his role as a good man, the audience wouldn’t be as taken in and it also helps that Tavia is caught in between Bobby and Raymond as it serves as a subtle chemical reaction.”

 

A different type of drama genre which is impressive and unconstrained

Although the genre of “Men With No Shadows” was introduced as a suspense drama, producer Poon Ka Tak continued to add on more details, “This is a different genre of drama and it can also be a fable tale. I want to remind the audience that this isn’t a story written based on real-life events happening in the society. Instead it is a suspense-filled and imaginary drama.”

“When we created this drama, it was in an unconstrained atmosphere hence I hope that when the audience watch and enjoy it, they would immerse themselves into the drama and wouldn’t keep questioning and doubting whether this was possible in real life. If they feel that Raymond is a ghost then he is a ghost, if they feel that Raymond is a human then he is a human. Shall keep you guys in suspense but I can safely reveal that the ending would be an unexpected one.”

Poon Ka Tak described “Men With No Shadows” as revolving around  two words, which was “Trial of Temptation” (試煉). When a person who seems like a 100% good man or woman in other people’s eyes undergoes a trial of temptation, the result is that actually a good person has his or her own weakness too. You feel that a devil is scary? Actually the devil in your own heart is even harder to resist! Many a times, temptations are from the true nature of a person. In a nutshell, I’m just going to say a cliché phrase of “cherishing the person in front of you” but how many people truly know to cherish the things around them?”

*Spoiler for “Men With No Shadows” ahead*

Introduction of roles

Bobby Au-Yeung (歐陽震華) as Kong Tung Kin

Dr O. Kong Tung Kin is a drug research doctor who is recognized and appreciated by the medical industry. Obsessed with researching medicine to help patients, Tung Kin is publicly known to be a good and great man. Tung Kin successfully invented a drug to cure cancer but was forced to leave the pharmaceutical company due to a medical drug trial scandal.

Tung Kin then set up his own practice and became a medical practitioner. Tung Kin has romantic feelings for Sau Fong but while expressing his love for her, he ran into an accident and hovered around the edge of death. The devil lists out conditions in exchange for his life and Tung Kin is thereafter pestered by the devil in the human form of Tai Fung.

Raymond Lam (林峯) as Tai Fung (Devil)

Tai Fung demands Kong Tung Kin for his life but permits him to hand out another person’s name as his scapegoat for death however Tung Kin cannot bear to implicate the innocent and would rather leave with Tai Fung. Intrigued by Tung Kin’s great forsaking actions, Tai Fung wants to try out being human and intercepts Tung Kin’s life, taking away his career, life and even snatching his only true love, Siu Fang. Thereby laying down traps to test the true nature of this so-called good and great man.

Tavia Yeung (楊怡) as Maggie Fong Sau Fong

Fong Sau Fong is a woman who is extremely allergic to chemical products. In an effort to rid her fully of her allergy, Kong Tung Kin researches for a vaccine to cure her. Sau Fong is in a romance with the successor of the pharmaceutical company, Tang Yong Shen. However the couple soon broke up due to objections from Yong Shen’s father.

After-which, Sau Fong is finally moved by Tung Kin and marries him under the encouragement of Tai Fung. When Sau Fong learnt of the life and death agreement between her husband Tung Kin and Tai Fung, she discreetly suggests to Tai Fung to take her life in exchange for her husband’s life.

Gigi Wong (黃淑儀) as Song Chaw Kiu

A highly-skilled TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) practitioner. Her husband Kong Zhi Da had earlier on married a wife, Jin Hua Xi, in the countryside. Hua Xi then conceived a son by the name of Kong Tung Kin. Fearing for her status, Chaw Kiu went one step ahead of Hua Xi and registered her marriage with Kong Zhi Da thus becoming the official wife.

The scheming Chaw Kiu secretly sent her daughter Kong Wai Mui to be a nurse at Kong Zhi Da’s clinic and to snatch his customers over. Chaw Kiu pulls no punches and always try to make things difficult for the son of the actual first wife, Kong Tung Kin.

The other actors in “Men With No Shadows”

David Chiang (姜大衛) as Tang Jing Tian; Boss of the pharmaceutical company.

Sire Ma (馬 賽) as Kong Wai Mui; Kong Tung Kin’s half-sister and Song Chaw Kiu’s daughter.

Power Chan (陳國邦) as Tang Yong Sheng; Successor of the pharmaceutical company, Tang Jing Tian’s son and Fong Sau Fong’s former boyfriend.

Jason Lau (白彪) as Kong Zhi Da; Husband to Song Chaw Kiu and Jin Hua Xi; Father to Kong Tung Kin and Kong Wai Mui.

Fung So Bor (馮素波) as Jin Hua Xi; Mother to Kong Tung Kin and unrecognized-by-the-law second wife to Kong Zhi Da when she is in fact the actual first wife.

Source: Mingpao

This article was translated by Ah K, a Contributing Writer at JayneStars.com.

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194 comments to Raymond Lam Depends On “Men With No Shadows” To Be Crowned TV King

  1. Funn Lim says:

    Raymond as the devil? Sounds like brilliant casting! I mean yes, with nice suits, etc he can look like a very cool devil. This series looks interesting except Tavia, again?!

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    • Funn Lim replied:

      But isn’t Bobby the lead here then?

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      • Vivien replied:

        TVB series most of the time got sharing leads

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        I don’t get the story. So the devil enters bobby’s body and became bobby. So isn’t ray a guest starring role?

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      • Vivien replied:

        No of course not enter Bobby’s body but he can talk to Bobby and make a deal with him.

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      • Profile photo of ahk ahk replied:

        @Funn Lim:

        “I don’t get the story. So the devil enters bobby’s body and became bobby. So isn’t ray a guest starring role?”

        Lol, I think the story sounds confusing too but from my interpretation of the article, I think Raymond’s devil does not enter Bobby’s body but takes the form of a handsome young human called Fok Ka Hei.

        Because according to this sentence, “After-which, Sau Fong is finally moved by Chi Chung and marries him under the encouragement of Fok Ka Hei.”

        I was thinking that it can’t possibly be Bobby himself who encourages Tavia to marry him cause it would make him seem like a desperate nutcase and doubt any woman with a shrewd mind would marry him in this case lol.

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      • Vivien replied:

        Then maybe Tavia fell for this handsome new human instead of Bobby ROFL

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      • Fox replied:

        Here is wat I read and summarize:

        Tai Fung (not Fok Ka Hei) was a human. He wanna kill Dr. O aka Kong Chi Tung and died in the car crash (which also caused Dr. O to death). Tai Fung signed the contract with Devil to become Devil’s representative. He gives Dr. O second chance to live because Dr. O said he is a good person, never do anything wrong. At the same time, Tai Fung tried to make Dr. O shows his true color by giving him everything in the beginning and make him feel that he is losing, so his true color will harm him. It’s Tai Fung’s revenge.

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      • lol replied:

        Thanks for sharing the synopsis. The storyline sounds good 😀

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      • Fox replied:

        Synopsis is one matter, the series itself can describer the synopsis or not is another matter.

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      • HeTieShou replied:

        In many series, there is often more than just one lead but there are several leads.

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    • Vivien replied:

      LF look cool demon with those nice suits and character sounds brilliant but hard also to top LOO. LOO official TVB view already reach almost 6.5 million. Laughing almost sure winner lor

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        But this may win back the fans who turned their backs on him

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      • Vivien replied:

        THink so too and win him new fans

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      • lol replied:

        After finishing LOO, it’s hard for me to automatically crown Laughing as Best Actor because others acting are also as good and on par with him, but I also can predict that TVB might award it to him.

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  2. Funn Lim says:

    Sounds like Meet Joe Black, hopefully minus the melodrama and close up shots.

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    • josie replied:

      Tvb = melodrama. I don’t mind that.

      U didn’t like close up shots of brad pitt?
      Ray even has the same haircut w/ side bangs except brad’s locks were beautifully golden.

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  3. SDS says:

    This should be an interesting series, hopefully it doesn’t turn out to be COme Fly With Me, the series with ada choi which had an novel premise for tvb standards but was ruined by a lacklustre story development. I’m sill confused what genre this is suppose to be, drama or comedy? Besides the fantasy elements of course.

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  4. Q says:

    Ray holding an apple is a copy from Death Note, as claim by netizens.

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    • Fox replied:

      A small difference: Shinigami (Death) in Death Note loves to eat apples and it’s his own favourite. Kira even sent an message to the polices to say that “Shinigami loves apple”, but in fact only his Shinigami love apple. His fellow (such as Amane Misa’s Shinigami dun eat apple). In MWNS, devil eat apple to transform from human look to devil look.

      After Death Note, many ppl think Shinigami or Death should hold an apple. The effect of the manga/anime is too big. I like it, too.

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    • sehseh replied:

      Apple was used to represent the Forbidden Fruit, which the Satan/Devil lured Adam & Eve to eat it. God banished them from Eden because of this.

      Apple is commonly used as symbol of sin and temptation in popular culture. I don’t see it as copying Death Note.

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    • Funn Lim replied:

      Frankly I wouldn’t be surprised if there is where they got the idea. TVB is never huge in symbolism anyway. But Sehseh is right. Look at the cover for Twilight. Or it could be his favourite fruit.

      What I am more concerned with is why Ray has to suffer the indignity of squatting as if he is in a toilet?

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      • Fox replied:

        To be easier? Kidding :P*.

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      • Kidd replied:

        Maybe to show his animalistic side? I find his pose more like animal or monster pose than going to toilet pose. Totally feral.

        Maybe Bobby is the vampire, Raymond is the werewolf and Tavia is the oh-so-special-everybody-loves-her Bella Mary Sue Swan. That’s why she’s standing up and the 2 guys have to kneel and squat down. She has to be above everyone else.

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      • lol replied:

        @Kidd lol you make Tavia’s character sounds boring again yawn but nice thoughts about Raymond imitating animal behaviour

        Bobby and Raymond’s characters sounds promising and potentially entertaining :)

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        And I hate twilight. The pose is wrong. He looks like someone squatting at the bus stop waiting for a bus. Give him a bag and there you have it. Bobby looks like he can’ squat. Tavia.. I just don’t like her in this photo.

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      • lol replied:

        I think Tavia just look like the normal Tavia in ABC series. Give her a wig or something.

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      • Fox replied:

        @Kidd: My friend’s thesis is about how Mary Sue Bella Swan is. She got 9.8 for this one. I’m the one who gave her the idea and I still like it much. Bella Swan is Miss oh-everyone-love-or-wanna-eat-me. But Bobby will sparkling under the sun light?

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      • Fox replied:

        @ Funn: You are totally right this time.

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      • Profile photo of jayne jayne replied:

        Kidd,
        “Maybe to show his animalistic side? I find his pose more like animal or monster pose than going to toilet pose. Totally feral.”

        Your comment cracked me up. The intention is likely to create the monster-like quality as you mentioned.

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      • josie replied:

        That is a very bizarre promo pic. They’re dressed nicely and it’s in classy black & white. And yet ray is squatting like he’s a chimp and bobby a gorilla. And tavia is holding their hands like a mom holds on to her kids.

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        Fox,

        Sparkle? Please no!

        “Bella Swan is Miss oh-everyone-love-or-wanna-eat-me. ”

        More like Miss everybody-hates-me-because-I-am-oh-so-ordinary-but-actually-everybody-loves-me-and-hey-my-bf-is-a-100-year-old-vampire!-and-I-am-cool-but-reluctantly-cool

        My apologies to any fans of twilight but that series of books and movies are just pure and utter cr*p.

        Sookeh and beeeehl is much better minus all that sex.

        Death Note is cool! Super cool! And frankly who is to stop ray from dying his hair blonde as the devil? After all he is the devil so why not?

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      • Fox replied:

        Anyone here watched Fright night? This movie mocked Twilight by letting a character says: “And it’s a shame of me for you to think that I read Twilight”. Fright night is also a movie about vampire.

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      • exoidus replied:

        only the new version of it. its a ok movie but prefer anna rices vampires they are way cooler

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        Didn’t watch the remake but the original was very funny! The vampire was very cool, ate red apples and all.

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      • Vivien replied:

        Maybe the pic is half funny because the series also got funny parts not too serious

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      • Vivien replied:

        Why so many people like Twilight? It’s dumb

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      • exoidus replied:

        bc of the forbidden and eternal LOVE hahaha

        true blood and lestat so much better

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      • Fox replied:

        Because US and Western teenagers and tweenagers dun watch Korean series, lol lol. Kidding *.

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        Don’t get me started on Twilight. If not believe me we will all be bulldozed by the twilighters.

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      • Fox replied:

        The twilight sage wave is kinda ended in my place.

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      • Masaharu replied:

        Agh Twilight is totally not my cup of tea. Not even Bella-Sue and pale-boyfriend and hot-bod lad can catch my attention. I’m happy that the wave has died down by now haha.

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      • CY replied:

        I think the apple is there to symbolize Toi Fung’s tempting of Dr. O to sacrifice another human life in his place so that he can live like the snake with Adam and Eve. It could also mean to sin because in the 2nd episode, Fung keeps asking and tempting Dr. O to choose someone to die in his place and thus lead to sin. If that is what the apple means, then that’s pretty clever of the producer and for TVB. Btw, does anyone think that the poster for MWNS looks a lot like The Last Supper by Leonardo da Vinci? A good pic of that here.
        http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%E4%B8%8D%E9%80%9F%E4%B9%8B%E7%B4%84.jpg

        I wonder if it’s a hidden symbol as well. They all have apples on their plates which could mean temptation (of many kinds). Both Raymond and Bobby are in the middle while Tavia and Gigi Wong are leaning away from them like in The Last Supper where Jesus is in the middle and the other apostles are leaning away from Him.

        In the painting, no one is having any bread after Jesus said that his betrayer will take the bread at the same time as Him but Judas is reaching for some bread (symbolizing his betrayal) whereas in the poster, Bobby, Tavia and Gigi are the only ones not touching the apples but the rest are (symbolizing that they are falling or haven fallen into temptation).

        Also in the painting, there is light illuminating Jesus while the others are in a bit of the shadows, same again in the poster illuminating Bobby and Raymond. Another thing, Power Chan seems shocked that he is cutting and about the eat his apple maybe showing that he didn’t realize that he was falling into temptation until he did and his dad seems to be happily eating the apple. or, it could mean that I am thinking too much, have too much free time and are over-analyzing everything..

        P.S. My comparison of the MWNS poster and The Last Supper does not mean that I am equating Christianity with a TVB series neither am I debasing the painting or the religion. I just think that the poster has some similarities to the painting.

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      • Fox replied:

        I think you have good analysis, CY.

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      • CY replied:

        @ Fox

        Haha, thank you Fox. I think I like to over-think and have too much time on my hands procrastinating in the office 😛 Anyway, leaving the office now, will go home and online later hehe. Thanks for reading my comments :)

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        I am afraid CY you’re thinking too much. For one the apple signifies him as the symbol of devil. They see apple they know he’s there. Moreover devil tempts eve with the apple to corrupt her pureness. In this series watching the preview it would seem Ray is more like back for revenge. He doesn’t tempt Bobby, but Bobby is trying to find excuses to avoid death.

        And he is called mo gwai, more like demon when I would think Mr Death or the devil would be better but what is chinese word for devil?

        I see the series more like the style of Death Note (wings in front, apples, Ray looking weird and all) and definitely Meet Joe Black. No doubt about that.

        There isn’t much symbolism. If TVB can think so much symbolism, they wouldn’t have to plagarise somewhere else. I do admit the apple looks nice but scene after scene in Ep 1 with Ray munching on the apple is boring after a while. I don’t like the way 1st episode is directed. I find it just silly. I also don’t like the supposed purgatory where Bobby was bargaining with the devil. I find it cheesy. And I certainly find Tavia’s nose very very distracting but worse was the amount of make up on her face. I see the direction of her path. She wants now to be sex symbol. Problem is she is pretty but nothing memorable pretty and now with the stupid nose and the stupid make up, she just looks ridiculous. i can’t take her seriously as an actress.

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      • Chriselle replied:

        ” Problem is she is pretty but nothing memorable pretty and now with the stupid nose and the stupid make up, she just looks ridiculous. i can’t take her seriously as an actress.”

        Haha, Funn, your comment cracked me up! I don’t like her nose either. High noses are usually desirable, but there is something about her face that makes that nose mismatching. People say she has a long face, but I think it’s just huge.

        Speaking of noses that are too high, this reminds me of another actress, Katy Kung. I use to think she’s cute, but her nose is quite distracting, especially when I learned she’s the petite type and she’s only 5’3.

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      • CY replied:

        Haha, well, that’s me, I love over-thinking things. But you have a good point. It’s probably just me. I just thought that it seemed possible so decided to voice it out :)

        Ray reminds me more of a reaper instead of a demon because he at the moment is just there to claim the life of someone who is supposed to die instead of actually killing people and such… Although, in episode two, Ray seems quite keen to get Dr. O to sacrifice people in his place, like his former boss and his 2nd mum how he keeps appearing after those people make Dr. O angry and digusted with them, it’s like Ray is trying to catch Dr. O off guard so that he will sacrifice other lives.

        But I am curious, why would Ray want revenge from Dr. O? I mean Ray doesn’t know him nor did Dr. O offend Ray as far as we know, so why would he want revenge against someone who hasn’t harmed him?

        Good question, I don’t think there is a Chinese word for devil because isn’t the devil Satan? Satan is a being, so technically devil = Satan, we won’t have the word devil in our vernicular because Satan is of the Christian faith/ western culture?

        I did not watch Death Note or Meet Joe Black so I have no idea if this series is plagiarizing. I do know roughly that Death Note is about a book where whoever’s name is written in it will die that falls into the hands of a young guy and he writes the names of bad people is it to get rid of evil.

        I would be greatly surprised and pleased if the symbolisms were true because it would be quite impressive and well hidden, exceeding my expectations of current TVB abilities. I guess that’s why I was so excited with the possibility of the symbolisms.

        Yes, the supposed purgatory of the series is quite lame and it seems too bright for purgatory 😛 But then again, TVB CGI has always been so lame so I don’t expect much in that sense.

        I don’t usually focus on Tavia’s nose haha so it’s ok for me, I don’t find it distracting. I agree on her makeup, she is using way too much now. I liked her makeup better when it was like in LOW, TOB and other earlier ones especially TOB. The makeup then was light but adequate and could accentuate her features very nicely, making her look fresh face, elegant and distinguished. It was a good look for her. But not, she has so much makeup on that it makes her look old and paste-y, certainly not fresh faced anymore. I wonder who really does her makeup, her or the make up crew..
        Sex symbol? As much as I like Tavia, I don’t feel that’s a right route. She can pull off many things like femine, elegant, sophisticated and more but not sexy. She doesn’t have the ‘hotness’ and sexiness like Kate or even Fala. Sex symbols to me are those with not just great bodies but also body language, the way they carry themselves like Megan Fox, before she became a skeleton. Megan had a great body and the way she carried herself just screamed with raw sexual energy and magnetism that even female can feel. She knows what she’s got, and she knows how to flaunt it. Tavia should just stick to being herself and not some sex symbol.

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        CY you found the right word!

        REAPER! He is the REAPER! No demon, satan, maybe devil but in Chinese his function is REAPER.

        Great word.

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      • CY replied:

        @ Funn Lim

        Haha, you are very excited about this word. Remembered the word from actually watching Reaper, haha

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      • Kidd replied:

        @ CY

        Good analysis, CY. I do think the poster maker took inspiration from the Last Supper painting like you said. Even your analysis on the various actors’ position and action/reaction is very rational and believable.

        Now, I wonder if Ma Choi (Bobby’s sister) will turn bad. She’s smiling while cutting the apple.

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      • Fox replied:

        @CY: He did the revenge because he is the son of the cancer man. His parents, sister and human past ID of him appeared in eps 2.

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      • Fox replied:

        @Chriselle: I also can see that after dating Patrick Tang, Katy’s look changed. She used to be a little mei ren.

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      • CY replied:

        @ Kidd

        Thanks, Kidd! :) I hope so, we will have to wait and see. Ma Choi looks quite innocent now, hopefully she doesn’t really turn bad.

        @ Fox

        Oh okok, I haven’t seen that episode yet. So Ray would have a legit reason to want revenge from Dr. O now.. Funn was right about Ray getting revenge with Dr. O.

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        I’m confused though. So he was human, and then died and became the reaper and now seeking revenge? Why does TVB always have to make a connection between the characters? Can’t he be just the cool apple munching black wearing silly hairstyle reaper?

        And talking about hair, something has to be done. Ray’s hair is never ever right!

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      • sehseh replied:

        Funn, the revenge and connection you mentioned sounds like ‘Hell Girl’

        http://hell-girl.wikia.com/wiki/Ai_Enma

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      • sehseh replied:

        Forget to add the connection part; the male protagonist is actually the descendant of Hell Girl cousin. They were like semi-friends, until she remember her past (how she was betrayed and buried alive). Hell broke loose.

        http://hell-girl.wikia.com/wiki/The_Shibatas

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        Love Hell Girl I think Season 1? Not sure which. Poor girl. Ray’s series, maybe a mash of a few Japanese anime.

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    • sure-lee replied:

      This drama actually did remind me of Twilight ! I really really hope it’s nothing similar to it though…

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    • Kidd replied:

      @ CY

      Good analysis, CY. I do think the poster maker took inspiration from the Last Supper painting like you said. Even your analysis on the various actors’ position and action/reaction is very rational and believable.

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  5. Fox says:

    Raymond Lam (林峯) as Fok Ka Hei (Devil)

    Nope, his chac’s anme is Tai Fung. Mandy’s chac is Tai Yan.

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    • Ah K replied:

      @Fox:

      Haha you’re such a true blue Raymond fan!

      Thanks for pointing that out, I just lifted from the show’s Wikipedia page. Will make the amendments later! 😀

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      • Fox replied:

        You are welcome. The character names are announced in tvb.com. Someone wrote the wrong name to wiki page. Here is the character name in TVB.com:

        林峯 飾 邰風
        歐陽震華 飾 江東健
        馬賽 飾 江惠妹
        姜大偉 飾 唐經天
        黃智雯 飾 邰欣
        黃淑儀 飾 宋楚喬
        陳國邦 飾 唐永燊
        周家怡 飾 文嘉玲
        馮素波 飾 金華喜

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    • Kidd replied:

      But, isn’t it strange that the producer himself called Raymond’s character Fok Ka Hei?

      “Poon Ka Tak explained, “Raymond’s performance this time ’round is completely different from the past roles that he had acted in. His role as Ka-Hei [Raymond’s role in “Men With No Shadows”] is nothing like the usual Raymond Lam ..”

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      • lol replied:

        Maybe Raymond has two names in the series?

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      • josie replied:

        For his 2 identities- devil and human. Makes sense.

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      • lol replied:

        It might be. In Korean series ’49 Days’ the reaper there also has 2 identities with 2 names. A reaper who used to be a human.

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      • Fox replied:

        @Kidd: Mingpao actually wrote: “《 不速之约》 监制潘嘉德力撑林峯, 赞他绝对有实力登视帝之位, 他说:「 今次林峯的演出跟以往的角色完 全不同, 邰风一角不是平日的他, 而且有很大变化, 他是神秘 、 深不可测的。 林峯在表演方面很有天分, 他有很大 的发挥。《 不速之约》 当然还有很多好戏之人, 若不是 Bobby 演 『 好人』 的角色, 便难以让观众信服 ; 杨怡夹在阿 峯与 Bobby 之间, 亦有很微妙的化学作用。」

        The character is never Fok Ka Hei, always Tai Fung.

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      • NX replied:

        Let the Film come out and see LOL

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      • Profile photo of ahk ahk replied:

        @Kidd @lol @josie @NX:

        @Fox is right, the article mentioned Raymond’s character’s name as Tai Fung. I went to itchy-handedly change the name to suit the “Fok Ka Hei” name as mentioned by the English wikipedia, which was wrong.

        Sorry about the errors, I have amended it as proper! @Fox, do let me know if there are any more errors k cause you are the true blue Raymond fan lol! 😀

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      • Fox replied:

        @Ah K: You are welcome :P. I rmb that Sire’s name isn’t Nancy, too. I dun rmb if she has an Eng name or not but it isn’t Nacy. However, this time I’m not very sure.

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      • Ah K replied:

        @Fox:

        Lol, okay sure! Haha I can’t seem to find the English name of Sire Ma’s character too! Maybe I shall just delete her English name and just leave it as Jiang Wai Mui!

        Do you happen to know whether the English names of Bobby’s character and Tavia Yeung’s character are correct too? 😀

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      • Fox replied:

        I read in Astro intro Bobby’s nickname is Dr. O. No mention of his Eng name.

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  6. mulder says:

    going to be a lame series, Michael Tse is a shoe in for TVB best Actor

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    • lol replied:

      Must rename the award to Favourite Actor by the Executive award

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      • Q replied:

        Both are 620 favourite. Laughing is a strong competitor, eventhoygh I think Laughing characyer is overused.

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      • Vivien replied:

        The standing now is

        Default win – Laughing
        If LF demon have break out – Raymond
        Popular Dark Horses – Bosco, Kevin
        want to reward SC – Wong Hei, Wayne, Steven Ma

        ROFL 😛

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      • Addy replied:

        @Vivien – I think Steven Ma should have won Best Actor a loooooong time ago. IMO he should have won for Where the Legend Begins in 2002. Steven’s performance in The Life and Times of a Sentinel was pretty forgettable for me.

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      • Vivien replied:

        @Addy: Agreed! Nothing memorable or outstanding about his acting in TLOAS. It’s the same old acting.

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  7. exoidus says:

    ray should dyed his hair white instead

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    • Vivien replied:

      Why not red. Match with his eyes

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      • exoidus replied:

        bc would’ve looked too scary i.e. bye bye fans why adore him LOL

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    • Fox replied:

      White hair? He dyed but not for a series.

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    • Fox replied:

      However, I think bright orange color like Shinigami Ichigo in Bleach is also adorable!

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    • exoidus replied:

      would most likely be a crappy series.

      better if he played someone like dante in DCM

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      • Fox replied:

        What is DCM? :D.

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      • Fox replied:

        Devil May Cry?

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      • exoidus replied:

        yupp.

        tvb could’ve done a copy of “supernatural” instead.

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  8. MARS says:

    Im really interesting in Raymond Lam character, love him, cant wait for his series tomorrow, good luck to him.

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  9. ada says:

    I hope this is better than “The Colorful world of sister Fa” which I thought was a disaster!

    It’ll be interesting to see Bobby, have not seen him in ages.

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    • sure-lee replied:

      Yeah, haven’t watched Bobby since FH2

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    • Vivien replied:

      I miss Bobby too. He’s adorable

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  10. Judy says:

    I think Raymond has overplayed the ‘chok’ look… it’s nothing new and doesn’t seem like it would be a challenge for him. I don’t see this winning him best actor.

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  11. Veejay says:

    Sorry, I don’t think LF would be able to come back and snatch the best actor title with this series and role. The series doesn’t seems like it requires any talent to act as a “COOL” and “good looking plus CHOK” devil. Anyone can act Chok, so to me, the role that LF is acting doesn’t seem to be challenging enough imo. I think Kenneth Ma has better acting skill than LF lol.

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    • Kidd replied:

      But, he will be acting as a villain.

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      • Veejay replied:

        @Kidd,

        Well, it’s refreshing to see LF acting as villain this time round but Preview shown on Astro on Demand doesn’t intrigues me. *note: I don’t hold any prejudice against LF, i just comment based on Tv’s series/plot. This new series seems like a comedy genre to me and it’s hard to see the talent from comedy. Although I have little hopes on LF winning this year best actor, I’m still eager to watch tonight’s series of LF, Bobby and Tavia. Other part of me would like to see LF acting as a cool and chok devil. Wanna see how he treats Bobby badly with fun.

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      • Kidd replied:

        @ Veejay

        I wonder if the character profile in TVB.com is still accurate. In trailer, Devil Fung said he wants to experience being human. But, according to TVB.com profile, he was a human before be became devil. So, he has already experienced being human.

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      • Veejay replied:

        I guess we can see which is accurate by watching the series tonight :)

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      • Fox replied:

        Maybe both is accurate. Lost memory theory of Korean series, lol.

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      • Vivien replied:

        He might be human first! ROFL yes Korean series got this theory of dead person will come back as shinigami ROFL

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      • Fox replied:

        Shinigami is Japanese, my girl :P. Shinagami often be human, then die and take the role of death god.

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      • Vivien replied:

        If LF dont win Best actor its becos TVB defaulted the win to Michael Tse this year. Unless LF can get break out in this series and make the rating more than LOO.

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      • Fox replied:

        LOO got 31 for last week, 40 in 1 min. So overall, TRB is still the highest.

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      • Vivien replied:

        Peak at 40 pts means more chance for Laughing 😛

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      • Fox replied:

        40 in one minutes. The series of SM and Kenneth also got 40 in one minutes for its ending.

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      • Vivien replied:

        ROFL I remember that it was Selena death scene that got the 40 points. ROFL Laughing cant beat Selena 😛

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      • Kidd replied:

        I always wonder about this. How do the viewers know when to tune in to watch certain scenes?

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      • Fox replied:

        The 40 scene of LOO dun have Laughing. It’s the scene when Kate reads Bosco’s letter or Bosco read Kate’s letter, I dunno.

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    • Vivien replied:

      @Veejay: Don’t you think it’s too early to say? Bobby also support him must mean that his demon role is something good. Act as devil and villain is hard. Kenneth is OTT from what I watch in TLOAS although still better than Steven.

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  12. Pineapple says:

    This new series definitely sounds like “Meet Joe Black”. Well, I didn’t enjoy that film even though I am a fan of Brad Pitt. Can’t say I like these sort of fantasy stories but out of curiosity I shall watch it – at least the first few series and if it gets really boring then I’ll stop.

    I’ve seen Fright Night and didn’t really like that either.

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    • Fox replied:

      Don’t tell me you like Twilight :P.

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      • Veejay replied:

        I hope not, i find Twilight to be too cheesy for my viewing.. maybe I’m not a romantic person lol.

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      • Fox replied:

        Twilight is the Sue world of Stephanie Mayer :P.

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    • Profile photo of ahk ahk replied:

      LOL! How come we are talking about “Twilight” now? Oh no, I am one of those anti-twilight people who can’t wait to hose Robert Pattinson’s hair with water, am I going to be ostracized now lol? 😛

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      • Vivien replied:

        ROFL very off topic. I still hate Twilight

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  13. poisonspice says:

    unless TVB bias again (which is normally the case), otherwise Ray Lam pls stand aside, you stand no chance for this yr’s TV King…

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    • Kidd replied:

      Don’t you think it’s too early to say something like this? The Devil series has not even aired yet and you have not seen Ray’s performance.

      Wouldn’t that be bias as well?

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      • Fox replied:

        In some minds, having LF = bad, automatically.

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      • Vivien replied:

        I’m more worried about Tavia’s performance then LF because throughout this year she has no spirit in her roles ROFL

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    • Vivien replied:

      Bobby praised him and support him for the award, that means his demon performance must be something great. You’re bias. Watch first before comment.

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      • Q replied:

        Of course Bobby will says good word in front of the reportes. Are u going to critisize your co star in front of himand reporters?

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      • sarah replied:

        @Q: He could of remained silent.. I don’t see Bobby praising any other costars of it.

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      • Vivien replied:

        @Q: If Bobby want to please everyone he will praise Tavia too but no, he only praise LF.

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      • Q replied:

        Naive….?
        Overconfident…?

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      • Q replied:

        If reporter ask him directly abt Ray’s chances, he can’t remain silent. He is just being polite. There is nothing spectacular abt this demon. Maybe later…
        Hopefully..

        Naive….?
        Overconfident…?

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      • lol replied:

        Why must judge so early? The series is only halfway through the first week. The producer has mentioned that there will be a lot of unexpected twists later so there must be a lot of secrets and twists in store for the devil since the producer is confident about him.

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      • sarah replied:

        @Q: It was not stated that it was reporters who asked Bobby about what he felt towards Raymond winning Best Actor..He said it himself.

        “Bobby later also expressed that he highly looked upon Raymond to win the TV King award and expected their drama, “Men With No Shadows”, to rake in a high rating of at least 32 points.”

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      • exoidus replied:

        he should be honest and say that the only reason ray would have a chance is bc the award is rigged hehe

        even bobby himself deserve more than plastic devil ray

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      • Kidd replied:

        @ sarah

        Some reporters tend to not include their own questions in the report they wrote. I have read several different reports of a same event before. Some will include the questions and some just write the stars reply. So, in the second type of report, readers might think the star mention something out of the blue. But, it’s actually not the case.

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      • fox replied:

        Make it easy to think tat Bobby says good about LF is polite and say good about anyone else is honest. Argue about this is pointless b/c Bobby didn’t say, your mind said. You think Bobby is fair Bobby is fair, think Bobby is polite Bobby is polite. It’s Bobby in your mind and he says watever you want.

        Only a fact that Bobby said so.

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      • lol replied:

        @fox some people might be prejudist 😛

        lol why does some people need to speculate that Bobby is being polite? Let Bobby have his own pick. He thinks Raymond should win TV King and it’s a fact.

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  14. Pineapple says:

    Have never heard of “Twilight” so can’t comment. Was it ancient or modern series?

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    • Kidd replied:

      It’s some woman’s wet dreams.

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      • Fox replied:

        Kidd, you are killed by Twilighters :P. But some guys like Bella Mary Sue Swan.

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      • CY replied:

        @ Kidd

        Haha, the Twihards are so gonna kill u for that 😛

        @ Fox

        Eh, is her full name Bella Mary Sue Swan? I thought it was Isabella Marie “Bella” Swan (wikipedia)?

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      • Fox replied:

        No, her full name is Isabella something Swan. Mary Sue is her natural.

        Even her name is Mary Sue. Bella = Beauty, Swan. Miss Beautiful Swan. Yuck. She said she is ordinary but everyone crazy for her, from human to wolf and bat.

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        Why everyone say mary sue??

        Even Swan.. you know ugly duckling will grow up into beautiful swan. please I wanna puke. Sorry to be so vocal but I hate Twilight with a passion. Not THE worst literature I have ever read, but close. The worst is what was the stupid book, oh yeah Rule OF Four.

        Movie Bella I also don’t like. How many times can she chew her own lips? Edward is like forever speaking like he is constantly constipated.. I like Jacob the actor but dear lord, get a shirt!!!

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      • CY replied:

        Whoops wrong place

        Hahaha, I don’t think having both a vamp and werewolf love her makes her ordinary, it makes her creepy!! Necrophilia and bestiality much?

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      • Fox replied:

        Jacob is famous because he dun have a shirt, why you want him to be not cool?

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        Because too much of a good thing is boring.

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      • Kidd replied:

        Jacob is constantly shirtless because every time he turn into a wolf, he torn his shirt. So, to save cost, he goes shirtless.

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      • Fox replied:

        Kidd, no kidding, I’m planning to say this!

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      • Fox replied:

        @CY: big furry dog is super warm in winter :P. If you ask me, I’ll choOse the big furry dog over a pale bat who can only – Look-cool and look-more-cool.

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      • CY replied:

        @ Fox

        aha, true but even if he doesn’t change into a wolf, he is supposed to be very warm because his normal body temperature is higher than humans.

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      • Fox replied:

        He is shirtless all the time and dun get any cold, it showed her body is warm :P.

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      • CY replied:

        Haha, true true.. btw, you mean him right? 😛 If it’s HER shirtless than I don’t think we will have young girls and some not so young :p screaming in the cinemas whenever Jacob removes his damn shirt. Btw again, if he destroys his clothes every time he changes, then shouldn’t he remove his pants too (wink wink) :P:P Imagine the chaos in the cinemas if that happens..

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      • Fox replied:

        Now I understand why he wears this cheap chic jeans :P.

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    • Vivien replied:

      Twilight yuck made me feel like vomiting.

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    • CY replied:

      Hahaha, I don’t think having both a vamp and werewolf love her makes her ordinary, it makes her creepy!! Necrophilia and bestiality much?

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      • Fox replied:

        She loves animal and animal love her. A bat and a wolf. And she is a swan, lol.

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        And paedophilia at some point? Is it the epitome of cool to have a vampire as a lover? Being lusted by a werewolf? Technically Jacob isn’t a werewold. Not sure what he is called.

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        OMG. I didn’t know this exist, I am ashamed

        http://twilightersmalaysia.blogspot.com/

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      • Fox replied:

        Jacob even transforms to a wolf, how can you say he isn’t one?

        Watever different to other ppl can be considered as cool :P.

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        “Jacob even transforms to a wolf, how can you say he isn’t one?”

        You must have read the book? The book I remember made a distinction between them being wolves and werewolves. And werewolves will lose all sanity and humanity and attack. These wolves as far as I know can even go for a stroll and change at will in front of Bella.

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        Shocking eh? Yes I read ALL 4 books, because I needed to know what was so awful about them and by end of book 1 I knew but had to skip, skip, finish so that I can legitimately say I hate the books. And thereafter I remember reading Harry Potter 1-7 to cleanse any ill feeling I have. Throw in Hitchiker and then Earthsea and then Adrian Mole and more and finally I felt clean again.

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        Wait! Yes I do remember they don’t call themselves werewolves. Yes yes my memory has served me right.

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      • fox replied:

        So just call him Wolfman. Meh no. Wolfman from Xmen will kill. Wolfboy?

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      • Fox replied:

        If I tell you I read all 4 books, it’s a lie. I did but skipped many parts, only read to list Mary Sue parts for my friend. You know, she did a thesis about the Mary Sue natural in Bella and Gary Stu in Edward. A funny fact: Edward had mark 100 for the Gary Stu score list.

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      • Fox replied:

        Personally, I think HP get worse and worse after each part. Part 1 is awesome, part 7 is so-so and the ending, I find it’s lame. I still appreciate JK for HP, but can’t deny the fact that HP gets boring toward the end.

        Darren Shan is the same.

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      • Kidd replied:

        @ Fox

        Jacob is technically not a werewolf. I read it in some Twilight website. I forgot what he is.

        Anyway, Stephenie is inconsistent. She changes the nature of her character to suit the plot. Edward started out as a vampire, but, by the end of the book, he’s not vampire anymore because Stephenie need him to have kids and vampire can’t have kids.

        I read that even Twihards were upset with her last book because she break her own canon.

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        Kidd,

        The right word is shapeshifter except he doesn’t change into anything but a wolf which defeats the word shapeshifter.

        Edward is a vampire. But the thing is her canon works only for female vampires. For male vampires, they can still have active sperm. But the baby will grow very fast and wait wait… stop growing when she is adult so that remains forever and ever beautiful.

        Yeah… sick isn’t it? So yes Edward is a vampire, Jacob is not a werewolf and Bella is still Bella except she is in the end a vampire. Now she gave birth before she became a vampire hence she could be pregnant and give birth.

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        And if you’re wondering how in the end their daughter with the most impossible name (was it renesmere? Sounds like a horse) could grow up and remain forever with her intended than is Jacob? Well she even has a solution for that. For as long as Jacob can still transform into wolf ie remains a shapeshifter, he will forever an d ever be youthful. So if he doesn’t give up the fur, he is still sorta immortal.

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      • Kidd replied:

        @ Funn

        I thought Edward turn out to be an incubus.

        Anyway, Stephenie Meyer is very sexist. Her female vampire can’t have kids, male can. Her female werewolf menopause at 20 years old but her male werewolf can father children as long a they live. Very unfair.

        Any why Leah menopause at 20? She’s not really a wolf. She’s a shapeshifter.

        I didn’t read the book, but, read quite summary of his stories and read quite a lot fo write up on it while i watch the 3rd movie.

        I read one writer said Stephenie is also unfair because Leah can’t get over her love is viewed negatively while Jacob can’t get over Belle is viewed as romantic. Don’t know if it’s true or not.

        Btw, can’t stand movie Bella. She’s empty, I tell you, empty. And because she’s so empty, I’m baffled why sparkling vampire and werewolf loves her so much and why everyone think she’s so special. She’s the first human to be invited to the ‘werewolf’ family council. So, special.

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      • Fox replied:

        Bella Swan is Stephanie Mayer and her wet dream of having a lot of guys around. Just look at Stephanie Mayer’s picture, you will see Bella Swan

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        I had to google what is an incubus! No lar, Edward is vampire lar! Where got incubus. I doubt stephanie Meyer even know what is an incubus. Yes it is her own fantasy, it does read like a fan fiction with her in the starring role. If you don’t like movie Bella you won’t like book Bella because movie and book Bella is the same.

        Not really abt fair not fair but be consistent. Now you know why I hate her books. But really not because of the story or female vampire can’t have children, etc. It is her writing style; childish, immature, lack of good prose, and I went crazy when her fans dare compare her to JK Rowling. You can accuse JK Rowling of many things but her writing ability is not open for debate. For example Meyer’s idea of vampires as in old cultured vampires in Italy issit called Voltarie consists of well, so few. Can even count the family tree. And I can never understand why they were so keen to kill a renegade vampire when they themselves escorted dozens of tourists into the I suppose dungeons or whatever and ate them all. Talk about subtlety. Ok enough of Meyer. I am happy people and children love to read but if it is Meyer I’d rather they go watch TV.

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      • lol replied:

        Twilight vs HP, although I’m not HP fan, HP totally wins.

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      • CY replied:

        @ Fox
        Haha, bat, wolf and swan, good one Fox! I didn’t realize until you pointed it out. Too bad Edward doesn’t actually turn into a bat, that would be good, then the wolf can eat the bat AND the swan, end of story 😛

        @Funn
        Erm, yes pedophilia happens but it’s between Jacob and Edward and Bella’s child, Renesme or something.. That was weird and very disturbing.. And OMG there’s a Msian twihard site? seriously? Oh no, the plague has spread to Msia!!! 😛

        No, Jacob is not a true werewolf; he is a shapeshifter but only into wolf form because it has something to do with his tribe, I forgot what. True werewolves change involuntarily during full moon but he can change anytime and he is still ‘human’ when he is in his wolf form.
        Edward is a vampire but apparently male vampires can still have babies with human females to produce a vampire-human hybrid but not vice versa because the body of female vampires can’t change to accommodate the growth of a baby.. Yes, I have read all the books.. And like Funn said, this baby will grow rapidly until she is seven years old where in she will be fully matured and live forever, and oh yes, Jacob imprinted on her when shortly after she was born so he is her soul mate. So as long as Jacob keeps transforming, he will remain immortal. Meaning, they can start being a couple when she is still a seven year old and be together forever.. Ugh, creepy much..

        And yes, Meyer is quite sexist, female vampires and shapesifters can’t have children but want to. Male hybrids can change other humans into vampires but female ones can’t. Bella is so helpless. hopeless and fragile that she needs an undead vampire and a great big furry dog to take care of her..

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      • Kidd replied:

        Meyer can’t even bear to make Jacob wait 18 years. Have to shorten it to 7. It’s not like Jacob will get old. As long as he continue to shape-shift he will be forever young.

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      • Fox replied:

        @Kidd: 18 years old is too old for a dog :P. Mayer considered Jacob by his dog age, not human age :P.

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      • Kidd replied:

        Jacob is a shapeshifter, not a dog.

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        18 years is a long time to be “gatal”! I don’t care about the years. But I have serious issues with Meyer’s obsession with being beautiful. She has very low self esteem issit?

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  15. Pineapple says:

    Is “Men without shadows” being shown in the US today 12th Sept? Here in UK its being shown tonight (same as in HK) so just wandered whether the US get dramas a few days later or still shown on the same day as HK.

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  16. Funn Lim says:

    Saw episode 1 and previews. A bit confused. Very distracted by Tavia’s nose. Not sure what to make of it but one thing for sure; it does have a resemblance to Death Note, the wings, the apple, basically the style. How many apples he has to eat? Poor guy.

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    • CY replied:

      Well, an apple a day keeps the doctor away, Funn… :p

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      • Fox replied:

        He should feel happy instead. Apple is better than banana.

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      • CY replied:

        @ Fox

        Huh? Ohhhh, you mean saying eat banana in Cantonese is it?

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      • Fox replied:

        Nope, I mean eat banana in fact isn’t good as eating apple :P.

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      • exoidus replied:

        for exercise banana is better as it provides you with instant energy.

        and a banana can have other purposes as well hehe

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      • Fox replied:

        Natural viagra?

        Eating banana is not good for gastric but it has more energy than apple. However, apple is better for skin and heart.

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      • exoidus replied:

        it depends on your purpose. if the lack energy while doing exercise than a banana is better.

        just all things you just can’t overdo it. you should try blueberry and kiwi they contain alot of important vitamins.

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      • Fox replied:

        Fruits are good :P. However, watever overused won’t be good anymore.

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      • exoidus replied:

        i think one apple a day is more than enough people don’t realize that apples contains alot of sugar even the healthy type.

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      • Funn Lim replied:

        But 3 apples a day will surely kill him with vitamin overdose.

        This is not a 3rd cat movie lar. Banana.. that is also not right. With Ray, maybe him half papaya and ermm.. well you guess… will be more appropriate.

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      • CY replied:

        @ Fox

        Ooops, I’m sorry. Haha, I was thinking crookedly 😛

        @ Funn

        Half papaya and what? Errm.. Melon? or maybe durian.. hahaha

        Sorry, being cheeky..

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      • Fox replied:

        It would be damn funny if Typhoon eats durian all the time. And he’ll become the smelly devil/reaper.

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      • Fox replied:

        Anyone here play the fruit ninja? Lol, just need to cut the fruits.

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  17. CY says:

    Err, I know this is not relevant to the topic but I don’t know where would be appropriate to post this, here are a list of upcoming and green-lit proposed dramas that are going into production on Wikipedia. Not sure if this is reliable thought…

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    • Fox replied:

      Some is reliable, some is not

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      • CY replied:

        haha but which is which? I really can’t tell..

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      • Fox replied:

        Wait for the confirmed info to come to know.

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  18. Pineapple says:

    I didn’t watch the 2nd episode which was aired last night because of signal failure in our area. Not sad at all but I will watch it again when I can just to give it another go.

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    • CY replied:

      @ Pineapple

      Errm, just curious, rain and Astro? 😛

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  19. loungegirl says:

    PATHETIC!! This is TVB’s upcoming “King”?? This is people’s “hottest/sexist” guy??? Are audiences a bunch of 15 year olds??

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  20. Nick says:

    This drama is a joke, still Bobby and Tavia is definitely good actors but the story really is stupid. A devil with red eyes and acting all cool eating apple that he kept in pocket all the time? While what he can do is only pushing people down the street but it can’t kill people? Revenge for failed to cure his parents? Eat my shorts stupid writer of the stupid story. And it makes the usually acting all mighty and cool Lam Fung even **** now. Even the beggar outside the street acting is better than him. King of tv? If he can take the award I swear to god that I will stop watching tvb drama.

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