Liddy Li is the Daughter of Gunman Who Committed Suicide
While news about director Oxide Pang (彭順) and Liddy Li’s (李悅彤) extra-marital affair has yet to subside, Liddy suffered another blow when her father, Li Duk Yun (李德仁), committed suicide after shooting himself in the mouth on June 1. Despite wearing sunglasses and a face mask when she appeared at the public mortuary to identify her father’s corpse, Liddy was recognized as the elder daughter of Li Duk Yun.
Unemployed 51-year-old Li Duk Yun shot his neighbor, Liu Kai Chung, after a dispute. Li locked himself at home and had a standoff with the police. Over 200 members from the police force were dispatched to the Kowloon Bay area, including the CIB, SDU, PTU and EU teams. Finally, twelve hours later, Li turned the gun on himself and ended his life.
The police is uncertain about Li’s motivation for the shooting and his own suicide. Several years ago, he was injured and could not continue working as a chef. He grew addicted to gambling and became straddled with debt. Police suspect that his death may also be connected to the recent negative gossip between Liddy and Oxide. Although the police are trying to contact Liddy’s family for further information, the Li family and Oxide Pang have not been answering their phones.
Liddy Suffered Rough Childhood
Li left Liddy’s mother for another woman when she was younger. After the divorce, neighbors stated that he often came back to visit Liddy and her younger sister. However, Li often visited while drunk, and beat his ex-wife while Liddy and her sister cried in a corner.
Because of the divorce, Liddy shouldered the duty of taking care of her family immediately after graduating from high school – she reportedly became a nightclub hostess and later became a pseudo-model. This led many to believe that Liddy fell in love with Oxide Pang, who is 22 years her senior, because she lacked a father figure in her life.
Liddy Earns Sympathy
When news broke out about Liddy’s pitiful family background, many sympathized with her. Although Angelica Lee‘s (李心潔) marriage suffered because of Liddy’s affair with Oxide, Angelica’s father said, “Liddy’s father is very ferocious; she is very pitiful. Perhaps because of her parents’ divorce, she turned out this way.” Mr. Lee also added that Angelica was in the hospital earlier because of stomach acid pain and did not commit suicide. He has lectured Oxide on his infidelity, but the Lee family has forgiven him for his mistakes.
Carina Lau (劉嘉玲) also commented on Liddy’s case, “[The press] needs to be kinder to her. There are many perspectives to every story.”
This article is written by Su for JayneStars.com.
Since she had experienced a third-party that ruined her family and childhood, she should know how it feels. Why is she a third-party herself, damaging another family
Agreed! I still feel bad for her lost and her rough child hood still. Ah! Vicious cycle.
Exactly. You took the words from my mouth
Transgenerational family at its finest. Unresolved family issues will in fact play a heavy influence to members of the next generation of the family system.
In this case, the father’s actions mirrored onto the daughter; who now repeats this dysfunctional pattern. To disengage from such pattern, the individual must learn to differentiate oneself from the family’s dysfunctions and be more self-conscious of what one’s identity and sense of self is.
yes because now many prostitutes can claim a rough childhood as their excuse for being a homewrecker ie making their problems everyone else’s.
It is wrong to be a third party but if oxide’s marriage is that strong then any storms will not break it.
There are plenty fishes in the pond so I’m sure if the fisherman wasn’t interested in going to fishing then he won’t catch one.
When the marriage doesn’t work out – I think Angelica or Oxide should also take the blame.
I like Angelica from the movie “the eye” so I’m just speaking in general about relationship. Don’t get me wrong.
Oh yeah because your family can be ‘wrecked’ so easily. The one who cheated bears no responsibility at all, he’s the poor guy who gets seduced and he can do nothing woe is me. After all that seductress is the one who’s damaging his family and not himself who has no self control at all!
I’m still confused what role she played in LAN KWAI FONG…. Also, ya I feel bad for her but IT DOESN’T EXCUSE anything. She’s a grown up.
Carina Lau (劉嘉玲) also commented on Liddy’s case, “[The press] needs to be kinder to her. There are many perspectives to every story.”
Just because someone has a “pitiful” life makes it excusable for her/him to be a home wrecker? Okay, women with a “pitiful” life, go after Tony Leung Chiu-Wai. haha 🙂
lol, so means!!!
She’s just being honest that’s all. Though I agree with MV’s every words
LOL wait till Tony leung get snatched by some young pseudo model.. and see if Carina will ever say that again..haha
Veejay,
Tony Leung and Carina Lau had periods of rumored “straying” when he reportedly got involved with Maggie Cheung and Valerie Chow. Carina once revealed her advice in keeping a man is like flying a kite, you let enough of the string go but rein it in when it’s the right time. But she often attends social events and mixes with rich wealthy men, attracting their open admiration towards her and enjoying the attention. Carina knows how to sustain a long-term relationship and I’m sure their marriage had its share of problems due to the long periods of separation.
“Carina knows how to sustain a long-term relationship and I’m sure their marriage had its share of problems due to the long periods of separation.”
She can deal with an open marriage because probably she too had her string of lovers but doesn’t mean her liberal views is acceptable to all.
May I ask all married friends here, are you ok with freeing the strings of a kite once in a while? If yes, what then is the meaning of marriage with all these conscious coupling who uncouples once in a while?
And I wonder will the men feel ok if their wives keep a “mistress” out there?
Carina Lau certainly knows what she is talking about but the press should be kinder to a mistress? Thus far the press has been harsh on the man himself which is just about right but no press should be kinder to any party. Report as it is and it is still as infuriating.
Tony and Carina have a long history together so of course they have been through many ups and downs. They even had a major crises in their relationship prior to their marriage that nearly ended their their relationship. But luckily a monk or whoever you call him helped them resolve it and suggested they get married in Bhutan.
In reply to Funn Lin
‘May I ask all married friends here, are you okay with freeing the strings of a kite once in a while?”
Of course not! No one in their right mind would be! Once you go into that territory, there’s a good chance that it will become a regular habit for the cheater. I simply don’t understand how anyone can live with that. You’ll always wonder who he or she hitting up next. Your will no longer trust him or her. And without trust, you know longer have a healthy relationship. What’s the whole point of getting married, then?
@DramaAddict,
Totally agree!!!
Also, it’s a STD health risk.
Carina herself was said by press to enjoy flirting with attractive younger men, but press may exaggerate.
yes all of Hong Kong and China is full of worse stories – as my father told me, everyone else is worse off.
What Carina could be hinting is that Liddy might have been under the impression Lee and Oxide were separated and working on a divorce and that she thought she was not the third-party.
I think Carina is just saying that we are from the outsider so there are many things to every story that we don’t know. Which is true. There are always two sides to the story and sometime we just don’t know the truth. We only can assume or believe what is true. Even the judges/lawyers can’t find the proof evidence or the truth in court.
“Angelica was in the hospital earlier because of stomach acid pain”
With a selfish/自私，greedy/貪心 dog/狗 like Oxide as a husband, who wouldn’t get ulcers?
That’s funny!
Laughing out my lung here!
I feel bad for Liddy in regard to her father’s death, I think it is traumatizing to lose her father that way, but that does not change the fact that she is a homewrecker.
Wow. So drama for your mama. Gambling in Hong Kong seem to be much easier than other countries.
sorry it happened…but she is still a lowlife homewrecker..no excuse!
Feel sorry for her family.
Wow…I know what a rough childhood is like. When you see your parents argue, you just want to crawl away and cry. I hope she can finally move on. She’s still young so shes still got her whole life ahead of her.
Perspective to every story? How about this perspective. One douchebag husband who has zero respect for his wife since he doesn’t even bother to hide his affair and one stupid young girl who thinks she can find happiness with such a man. Since she came from similar background, I do not sympathise her. Surely she can understand the hurt she causes Angelica as much as her dad hurt her mom and herself, etc etc? There is ever only one perspective. When you’re wrong, admit it and move on. Is she a victim? I highly doubt it. She lets her heart rule her actions as much as Oxide lets his lust and the appendage between his legs rule his actions. Both knew he was married with a wife and I am sure Angelica went “How come I didn’t get the notice?” because as far as the wife is concerned all was ok until the pictures came out. Maybe ANgelica pretended not to know, as most wives do. Doesn’t mean he can walk all over her. And Liddy may have a bad childhood, all the more she should be more sensitive to other’s suffering. It just shows she really doesn’t care. Everyone is either an idiot, a fool or a douchebag. You can decide who is who.
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Liddy Li is the Daughter of Gunman Who Committed Suicide”
The title should be
Liddy Li is the Daughter of Gunman Who Gunned Down Neighbour And Committed Suicide
Because that was what he did. Clearly the father had issues, mental or otherwise and I am sure due to the past, Liddy probably couldn’t care less if he killed himself. But poor poor neighbour.
@Funn,
Very well said.
BINGO! You got it in a well-described nutshell.
dog = Oxide
tail = “the appendage between his legs”
MW, very PG rated version!
Funn
Very well said.
Well said Funn! I did pity Liddy a bit but after reading more about this whole issue,she truly is selfish and does not care about anyone but herself. If she suffered so much,she should be more sensitive to the pains and sufferings of others. But sadly,she does not seem to give a care.
agree,thats maybe why she did the same mistake,she knews the pain and as revenge she wants other ppl to suffer the same pain.
Funn,
You speak wisely. I agree that Liddy is wrong. But then again there are many people who have had affairs believe me. We’ve to learn to forgive, I can feel that you’re really agree for this girl and the man and why Angelica is so stupid still forgive this husband. Yes, I think I wont forgive him and may divorce him too if I were in her position because I’m less forgiving. But then again, we’re just outsiders, probably it’s always easier for us to comment, maybe we will act differently if we were in this situation. Eventhough Liddy was wrong, but we should let her repent and move on, she didnt really commit a huge crime. And dont forget one hand dont clap. Since Angelica has chosen to forgive her husband, we could only hope the best for them. And hopefully Liddy will meet the right man soon, I do pity her father has to end his life this way, I dont think this is something that we should feel proud off and it’s a lifetime pain and leave a deep scar in her memory.
@ Funn Lim
You said it well. My first reaction when I heard the news, “What a dysfunctional family!”
Thumbs Up!
I do not pity her nor do I think she needs to take ANY blame for this.
Obviously the husband is scum and HE is the one who’s a serial cheater and HE is the one who broke his marriage vows.
poor thing!
My perspective say..a gal like Liddy is very smart, all d bad childhood experiences make her realise d important of opportunities, moni & fame..she is utilising her youth & body on man weaknesses. Bad childhood is not an excuse to be a cheap gal.
Without correct guidance, one would grow up without a proper structure and in turn be unpredictable. Though having a bad childhood is not an excuse, it is however, a mean to understand how the person is who they are.
I have seen many lite gal grown up without parents..yet tey r down-to-earth, saving their pride, dignity & soul. It all depend to own will power, willingness & desire.
Isn’t 200 police for one gunman too many?
Hey,that is a good example of exaggeration and how many things that are reported are not always accurate. Reporters love to add more salt and pepper into the mix.
OMG, the suicide of Liddy Li’s father stems from the affair. Let that be on Oxide’s conscience.
i wanna have sex with liddy.
hi there
1. bro, if you can afford it.
2. she will do you likewise mah.
3. there is simply no free lunch.
Like I always believe, she should not shoulder all the fault. Oxide Pang is wrong too, one hand don’t clap. Anyhow, it might be true that she fell in love with Oxide Pang because she lacks of father figure.
fathers don’t go sleeping with their daughters. What happened to mentor-muse relationships? THis one is purely physical for him and dependency for her.
A Wrong is a wrong is a wrong but I do agreed that this lack of father figure can have a very strong impact on a person. Don’t ever underestimate that. I am not agreeing with Liddy’s action but sometimes you can get overwhelmed and carried away when a mature man walked into your life and seem to be able to solve all your problems. Which woman does not want to be taken care of especially since she comes from such a background? So it is possible for her to fall for him! Coz he was able to provide the support for her in times of need.
To Nigel, Yes, that’s exactly what I was trying to say.
Father figure is just an excuse, it all has to do with her character. She’s cheap and he’s an idiot. 😀
Yes I agreed with Bloom that it takes 2 hands to clap and that it is possible that she fell for him. Initially maybe for the money but subsequently maybe more…..feelings hard to contain at times though I am not saying that it is right for her to do so. It is still wrong to get involve with a married man!
“why fool around with hamburger when i have steak at home.”
Yup, it takes two to tango. She’s a stir
stick and he’s a married man. He should have said “no, thank you.” LOL! 😀
There isn’t a cat in this world that doesn’t eat fish. If the girl is willing to sell her body in return for a free meal ticket and the man can afford it financially, he won’t say no. And you’re right Kiwi, looking for father figure is no excuse for cheap immoral behavior. So are the old excuses “he doesn’t love his wife anymore”, “they’re on the verge of divorce” etc.
You got that right, men and their animal instincts. For these two, it takes one to know one. LOL! 😀
Oxide Pang should shoulder ALL the fault. HE is the one who cheated on his wife.
whilst i see why liddy needed the father-figure support and love (though agreeing with it is another issue), what i don’t understand though is that if you’ve been through the “my-father-sacrificed-my-mother-for-another-woman”, why would she want to cause the same pain to another woman (though i’m not implying that this whole affair is entirely liddy’s fault)?
Copy-pasted this from my earlier replies.
In a psychological perspective, using the transgenerational theory;
Unresolved family issues will in fact play a heavy influence to members of the next generation of the family system.
In this case, the father’s actions mirrored onto the daughter; who now repeats this dysfunctional pattern. To disengage from such pattern, the individual must learn to differentiate oneself from the family’s dysfunctions and be more self-conscious of what one’s identity and sense of self is.
so are you saying that the transgenerational theory suggests that in this person’s world, such dysfunctional pattern is a norm and is acceptable, unless he/she learnt to differentiate?
if your answer is yes then that leads me to think why hasn’t liddy learnt, whether directly or indirectly, through her mother’s suffering (since she lived with her mother). for example, when she see her mother being battered/sad/cry/complain, wouldn’t she see the cause and effect and learn to differentiate the good from the bad?
Dysfunction is not a norm unless it has become the dominant functioning in a family that has yet to be corrected. In that case, it is the norm of that particular family.
To your second question, the same theory applies for ‘if people know procastination is bad, why do people still procrastinate?’ The answer is that we are all human and we make mistakes. Having said that, I do think she is in the wrong, but I’m merely providing an explanation to the behaviours that’s exhibiting.
“Li left Liddy’s mother for another woman when she was younger.”
Karma sure works in a very strange way.
You really wonder about karma as there are many holes and inconsistencies with it.
Sarcasm intended, dude.
http://asianfanatics.net/forum/topic/798232-angelica-lee-was-once-oxide-pangs-mistress/ is this story about Liddy Li, true?
She is absolutely wrong to do so. Shame on her.
That’s doesn’t change the facts that she is a home wrecker.. Plse I only respect those who have bad childhood & yet able to become a successful person.. She doesn’t worth my sympathy at all .
To Tammy,
If Oxide Pang and Angelica’s marriage have been strong, no one can come in between them. It’s always something that went wrong in ones marriage that one of the spouse seek comfort outside of the marriage.
Being married doesnt mean other ppl wont come and pursue you, be it man or woman.
Angelica spoils her husband. 😀
Oh yeah she threatened Oxide with a knife to kiss her and sleep with her, right?
A family can’t be ‘wrecked’ by another person if THE ONE WHO ACUTALLY CHEATED ON HIS WIFE is not willing.
If anything, Oxide Pang has all the blame in this.
“Oh yeah she threatened Oxide with a knife to kiss her and sleep with her, right?”
Sense of right and wrong. Actually she did threatened Oxide. She made it so easy for him to screw her. If he didn’t, he’s not a man and in the end he let his animal instincts rule. LOL! 😀
Marriage will last if it strong..den how strong is strong? Have affair bcoz there is marriage problem..den what r those “green-card” problems to stray? What happend to d marriage vows? It Toxic fault but Liddy cant escape d criticism. Mayb Liddy din use weapon to force Toxic..may used d BODY lah. Did Toxic use weapon to force Liddy to b d 3rd party, hmm mayb ah.
I guess misery loves company. She wouldn’t think consciously if what she was doing is right or wrong because she wasn’t happy during childhood. She never saw it being punished and thinks it normal.It is rare to have people do the right thing when the right thing was not experienced at first hand.