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Nancy Wu Unable to Stop Loving Kenneth Ma After Breaking Up 1 Year Ago

By on November 17, 2011

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As one of TVB’s diamond bachelors, Kenneth Ma (馬國明) was renowned as a filial son without any sinful habits. Kenneth Ma and Nancy Wu (胡定欣) allegedly started dating in 2008 for two years and broke up in April 2010 due to Nancy’s princess attitude. According to Next Magazine, Kenneth allegedly possessed a recent change in heart and allowed Nancy to re-enter his life once again.

Nancy Wu received critical acclaim for her convincing performances as a selfish lawyer in Forensic Heroes 3 <法證先鋒3> and ambitious concubine in Curse of the Royal Harem <萬鳳之王>. After completing the filming of Lucky Father <當旺爸爸>, Nancy found out that Kenneth was scheduled to travel to New Zealand for a guest performance in a local Chinese pageant on October 30th. Since Nancy’s next series did not start filming yet, she requested to appear at the same event that Kenneth was attending, sparking a 5-day-4-night trip to mend their former relationship!

Outside of their work engagements, Nancy allegedly glued herself by Kenneth’s side to offer her attentive care. Nancy and Kenneth were photographed dining together in New Zealand. Perhaps Nancy’s efforts to reconcile their relationship were highly effective!

On November 7th, Kenneth and Nancy returned to Hong Kong from their New Zealand trip. The pair were spotted chatting non-stop at the Hong Kong airport, with Kenneth dutifully hauling Nancy’s luggage while her hands swung freely by her side. Entering the airport’s main reception area, which was filled with a large crowd, Kenneth and Nancy purposely maintained their distance. Since avid fans received Kenneth at the airport, Nancy quickly boarded a car and waited for Kenneth to finish signing autographs with fans. Afterwards, the pair returned to Tai Koo Shing together.

Nancy originally lived in Tuen Mun with her family. When she started dating Kenneth in 2008, she moved to the same residential grounds as Kenneth. Their buildings were only one block apart, requiring only three minutes walking time.

An Unstable Personality

It was rumored that Kenneth and Nancy’s romantic sparks ignited in 2008 during their training and participation in Strictly Come Dancing 2 <舞動奇跡2>. Good friends, Sharon Chan (陳敏之) and Christine Ng (伍詠薇), put in their efforts to match Kenneth with Nancy. After dating Kenneth for only three months, Nancy allegedly resumed her unreasonable personality and often threw tantrums at him.

An inside source close to Nancy commented, “Nancy’s personality was too blunt. Initially, she was very gentle while dating Kenneth, but she could not maintain it and resumed her old unstable personality. When Nancy was stressed at work, she released her tantrums upon Kenneth, who let her have her ways at first. Kenneth tolerated the situation for one year. Afterwards, Nancy frequently complained that Kenneth only paid attention to his family. Since Kenneth was a filial son, things worsened when their arguments revolved around his family. As a result, Kenneth initiated the break up.”

Nancy Wants Kenneth Back

It was understood that Nancy did not stop loving Kenneth and attempted to reconcile their relationship several times. Allegedly, Nancy could not accept the break up reality. During a private gathering for A Fistful of Stances <鐵馬尋橋>, Nancy got drunk and took advantage of the circumstances to apologize to Kenneth, “I’m a bad girl; I’m not good!” The situation made Kenneth feel extremely embarrassed.

After their recent New Zealand trip together, Nancy was very happy and could not resist posting a photo taken with Kenneth on her blog. Despite this, at the November 10th press conference unveiling the nominations for the TVB Anniversary Awards, Nancy and Kenneth maintained their distanced and pretended they did not know each other well.

Despite their breakup last year, Nancy continued to live in Tai Koo Shing, which was only three minutes away from Kenneth’s house, latching on the excuse to travel to work together and curry the favor of Kenneth’s mother. Allegedly, before Nancy’s 30th birthday and after her solo vacation to Europe, she expressed her heartfelt wishes to Kenneth, successfully changing his mind and winning his acceptance again.

An insider revealed, “Kenneth brought Nancy home to introduce to his mother in the past and share meals together. Realizing that Kenneth was a filial son, Nancy knew that earning his mother’s favor will help her in winning Kenneth back. Once in awhile, Nancy will call Kenneth’s mother to talk to her and give gifts on holidays. Nancy did these things to demonstrate that she has changed and knew how to care about Kenneth’s family.”

Nancy Insists That She Is Only Good Friends With Kenneth

Speaking with Ming Pao, Nancy insisted that she did not ask TVB to send her to New Zealand in order to spend time with Kenneth. Nancy clarified that TVB made the work arrangements. Nancy stressed that she and Kenneth have always been friends and did not date in the past. Nancy laughed over tabloid claims that she had attempted to reconcile her relationship with Kenneth.

Nancy welcomed advertisers interested in inviting Kenneth and herself to appear at joint promotions together. Asked whether there was potential development with Kenneth, Nancy said that he was a very good man, but it will depend upon romantic fate.


Excerpt from Next Magazine # 1132

Jayne: It appears that Kenneth and Nancy may indeed have had an underground relationship together. Kenneth seems to prefer outgoing women, such as Margie Tsang, Sharon Chan, and Nancy Wu. If Kenneth is not dating anyone right now, the chances of him reconciling with Nancy is quite high, as it is easy to allow an ex-flame to re-enter one’s life in a lonely moment.

Ah, my hopes of Kenneth and Linda Chung getting together are dashed! Kenneth, who do you love? Do you still have Nancy in your heart?

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  • Readers' Comments (79)

    1. josie says:

      Those pictures don’t look too convincing but I do hope they are dating. Nancy is the best thing about FH3 and CotRH. Hehe… she’s quite good at playing the bad girl.

    2. Fox says:

      If compare Kenneth to Deep Ng and Nathan Lee (one is Nancy’s real ex and one is another rumoured bf), even Derek Kwok (who has rumoured with Nancy before), can see some similar points of Deep, Nathan and Derek but Kenneth? Totally different.

      So Nancy’s taste changed or they are truly friends.

      But again, good friend excuse. Artists can’t change.

      I doubt that there is a chance for Kenneth and Linda. Kenneth isn’t her type. Look at Linda’s type: LF, Philip Ng and even the rumoured lawyer, Kenneth dun fall to her type. Also can happen only if her taste changed.

      • josie says:

        Are u implying Kenneth is too boring for both Nancy and Linda? :P
        Then might as well cross selena and tavia off his potential list. Too bad sire ma is too short b/c she seems like a good girl for ken.

        • HeTieShou says:

          I don’t think height should be a big factor in a relationship. If they love each other, are compatible, etc.. then being too tall or too short should not be a big deal.

          You never know… The people that you don’t think would end up together suddenly do. What you don’t want at times is what you get…

        • milo001 says:

          I think Ma Ming will like girls like Tavia and Selina.But they will not fall for guy like him.Tavia will choose a player like Him instead.Tavia is really blind if he really pick Him instead of Lok Yi.For Selina I think Ma ming is not her type at all.

        • Fox says:

          Nope. I just think he isn’t their type, if consider their old “ex”. Nancy seems to prefer the kungfu guys while Linda seems to like talkative guys.

        • Veejay says:


          kinda disagree with you on height problem in a relationship. I know a guy who’s 6’2″ and he dated a girl barely 5’5′. He always hope he could find a gf that is atleast 5’8″ so he could easily put his hands on her shoulder etc.. and few months later, they broke up and the guy has finally found another girl who’s 5’8 or 5’9″.. which I can see frm his face, he’s kinda happy.

          So basically, height is a problem imo.

        • Kidd says:

          @ Veejay

          It depends. I know a couple who has been married for decades. The husband is taller than average men, while the wife is shorter than average woman. So, their height discrepancy is large.

        • Funn Lim says:

          My problem is when a guy is short and a girl is very tall. Seen one such couple, willowy figure and a westerner to boot, the short asian shorty with glasses proudly displayed his trophy. Seriously, the way he held on to her was… interesting.

        • josie says:

          Veejay’s example makes me think of Kim kardashian’s breakup while Funn’s example reminds me of Wong cho lam.

        • exoidus says:

          If it’s true love then height don’t matter the problem is that you would prolly not fall in love with a person that whose height relative to yours differentiate too much.

          I think the ideal is a 10cm range with 15cm max well it depends on other things as well like body type etc…

        • Veejay says:

          I think Exoidus is right.. Height won’t be a problem if a couple found their true love…Probably my friend wasn’t dating wiht his true love therefore he wasn’t happy while dating with his barely 5’5 gf.


          Yup, I agree wiht ya it depends on situation. I guess those relationships of ppl who I know who dated girls who r shorter than them alot didn’t last long..hence gives me an impression that height is really a problem because my friend told me that she had to wear 5″ heels always whenever they went for dates and her legs was like sore and swollen because of walking too long..And everytime when there was tall girls walk passed the couple, the guy would peek and look at them (I suspect he was hoping his gf is of that height too)..

        • Veejay says:


          Speaking about Wong Cho Lum, maybe I’m just bad, I always think this guy gonna lose his gf fast as the girl is way taller and sexy/pretty etc and can easily find any guy she wants..

          Ok, maybe i’m really bad but I really can’t “do that” with a guy like Cho Lum.. so sorry lol

        • exoidus says:

          LOL, me too Veejay. Well i thought/still thinking that she has other motives for being with him but perhaps it’s just love…

        • Veejay says:

          We sure have evil thoughts rite? kekeke

          yeah I always think they don’t match with each other no matter in what terms..

        • exoidus says:

          hehe, wouldn’t call it “evil” thoughts more like being realistic…

        • Vivien says:

          WCL and Leanne Li annoyed me once they start to overexpose their relationship

      • Kidd says:

        What are the similarities between Deep Ng and Derek Kwok?

      • Masaharu says:

        Fox, nice observation. I’m surprised to know that Derek is a sweet talker. He always give a strong-and-serious outward impression.

        • Veejay says:

          Same here, never knew Derek was and still a sweet talker lol. Always thought he’s straight forward person.

        • Fox says:

          He is strong but I dun think he is that serious. I know when to take a joke. He is straight forward but know how to talk to a lady.

    3. HeTieShou says:

      Yea, once again the same old excuse, we are just good friends… I guess only they know. But good luck to them regardless of what happens. Maybe they did have an underground relationship years ago but that was the past. The past is the past.

    4. milo001 says:

      I believe in this article 90%.Mainly is because I really like these two together ever since their rumors started two years ago I already hope it’s true but somehow I don’t think it’s true.But now it really seems like true to me.Ma Ming is a good guy and had a great future if she really likes him then she must not be like how she used to be.

    5. Funn Lim says:

      Princess attitude? What does that mean? She’s fragile? Or diva attitude, as in arrogant? Is she back with him because he is famous now?

      • Masaharu says:

        High maintenance, diva, picky?

      • exoidus says:

        Haha alot of girls does have princess attitude and it can be more than one thing. Don’t think Kenneth is more famous now not sure and i do hope they can reconcile.

        I suppose Nancy wants to settle down and found Kenneth to be husband material. And seriously can’t picture him with Linda at all!

        • Veejay says:

          Dont think Nancy would want to settle down at this age now considering her popularity is rising after shooting COTRH and Forensic Heroes III. I mean for women in their early thirty especially in Hk, they still considered themselves as Young. Even here in msia, most of my friends are still single even they re all in their midst 30s. Their reason for not marrying now is they still want to travel to othre places and see the world.

        • loungegirl says:

          Linda Chung seem like she would be more compatible with a CBC. Kenneth Ma seem a bit too traditional and old-fashioned. Agree – not a good match at all.

        • HeTieShou says:

          I agree with Veejay that it doesn’t seem like she wants to settle down so fast. If what this article is saying is true,then maybe she may want to “date” him again but not sure about marriage or anything like that. But lets see.. Time will tell… Kenneth may or may not want to settle down but I don’t think that Nancy does.

      • Veejay says:

        Love is a fascinating and mysterious thing… One may want their partner back after dumping them because only at that time when they were alone basically lonely..they will have this urge wanting to be back with their partner..that’s why many couples reconcile after separating.

        so my point is.. I don’t think Nancy and kenneth reconciliation is because Kenneth is famous now..because Nancy herself is getting quite popular lately too.

        • milo001 says:

          I believe she is not the person who only wants to be with the other because he’s more famous than her.Nancy herself is quite popular as well.Don’t forget the drama where she play the deaf/mute boxer.If her performance is good that will make her become very popular.Both of them is a good match.

          Besides Nancy I think Sharon will be compatible with Ma Ming as well.

      • Kidd says:

        Kenneth Ma is not anymore famous than he was a year ago.

    6. khanh says:

      i actually hope that they get back together, they are quite cute!

    7. loungegirl says:

      Cool if they become a couple..

    8. Mika says:

      Aiya. They were just visiting my home country New Zealand as guest stars for NZ’s Chinese Miss pageant. I guess that they both were a couple before and that’s why reporters are picking on them both during the trip. I saw both Nancy and Kenneth and they both were very happy and cheerful. They liked to joke around and have fun. If their relationship is starting to spark up it would be nice but no one has confirmed that they have been dating recently right? The restaurant part might be that they were having dinner to prepare for the show? I don;t know but the media seems to be really interested in them both lately. Any ways take care Nancy and Kenneth :)

    9. iampheng says:

      It would be so cool if they were actually together!

    10. rei says:

      I think Kenneth is too good for Nancy. It looks like they did reconcile.

      • HeTieShou says:

        I also think that Kenneth can find someone better and more suitable for him. Maybe a girl outside the circle, but girls in the circle mostly are too high maintenance. Who knows, Linda and Kenneth may end up together for all we know…

    11. Jayne says:

      The media portrayal of Nancy Wu and Kenneth Ma’s romantic relationship appears as if Nancy loves Kenneth more than the other way around. This is just my perception through their body language, how they face each other in photos, where Nancy’s body is always turned closely towards Kenneth, while he likes to hover behind her. This is just my observation though. It may even be that she chased him?

      I googled Nancy and Kenneth’s photos and they even kissed at a promotional event in the past. They smiled sweetly in many photos and I do believe they had dated at one point.

      Kenneth’s lifestyle doesn’t sound very glamorous, in which he prefers to stay at home and spend with family, may not sound too exciting for young women. Maybe more husband material than boyfriend material? With his ordinary habits, which are very uncharacteristic of a big star, he might be more compatbile dating a woman outside the entertainment industry.

      I still prefer Kenneth with Linda Chung, hehe maybe they can be onscreen partners in the future?

      • Funn Lim says:

        I think it is equal except Nancy may be the more passionate one. You know, Cecilia and her ex? See the pattern?

      • HeTieShou says:

        I agree with you Jayne that it seems like Kenneth would be more suitable to date someone outside the circle. He seems like a peaceful guy that doesn’t go out and party and likes to be with family. Many of the actresses in the industry aren’t too crazy for that…He seems like a more ideal husband rather than boyfriend. Therefore, I think it would be ok for Nancy to date him but marriage is a different story.

        • Vivien says:

          This article make Nancy’s personality look bad. Agreed. Kenneth good man and humble personality suit girls outside the industry more. Not many female artists will want to ride in MTR as transport.

        • Jayne says:

          The article made Nancy sound like a wild girl. Opposites attract, so Nancy must cherish the more stable aspects of Kenneth’s personality and lifestyle if she wishes to be back with him.

        • HeTieShou says:

          I agree with you that opposites do attract, but not in all cases. In some cases, opposites clash as well…

      • Canto says:

        Aiyoh, I also think that Kenneth is too good for Nancy. I don’t know why… but I am not exactly a fan of Nancy. Maybe she plays her “bad girl” and “evil” roles too well and she has been typecasted, but you know directors also look at a person’s appearance when casting them in roles. E.g. if Linda did not look sweet, she would not be cast in so many good girl roles in the beginning of her career. Sorry, but for me, Nancy could be good looking but it is ruined by her spoiled attitude appearance, aggressive female dog and unfavorable looks.

        Kenneth is boring but he is good in other aspects. If Nancy really loves him, I hope that she doesn’t take him for granted, e.g. he carries her bags for her. As she knows his filal character, if she decides to be with him, she should also know that he would likely expect them to take care of his parents in their old age.

        • josie says:

          I think you’re too convinced by her evil roles. If she was that bad, Kenneth wouldn’t date her.

          And I would expect any gentleman to push the luggage cart, especially when there are only 2 big pieces. I don’t consider that taking him for granted.

        • HeTieShou says:

          Not necessarily since “love” is blind. A good guy can be with a bad girl and vice versa. It is sad that many girls do take advantage of their boyfriends/husbands these days. It is no longer in the olden days where the girl takes care of the guy and his parents…Such girls are rare these days and it doesn’t seem like Nancy would be the one that would take care of his parents.

    12. Jayne says:

      Do you consider Kenneth to be a heart throb? He really is quite good looking and has a nice glint in his eyes. Maybe he is just lacking a bit packaging and more stylish hair to become a heart throb? :)

      • Funn Lim says:

        Heartthrob? Yes if he dress himself that way. But he is pain to remind us all he doesn’t want to be; he wants to be a serious actor. He is perfect for those man chor series or even tragic young siu yeh who contracts TB and dies sort of role. Hair is a problem; not sure who does his hairstyle. But he doesn’t seem keen to build a star image; a pity. Someone needs to tell him you can be a serious actor and still look fabulous.

      • Mika says:

        Wow Kenneth :) I actually find him really good looking. Lol. He does kind of lack in style etc. Good point Jayne

      • Vivien says:

        He’s a good man not a heart throb but a gentleman. He’s the best in AFOS :D

      • HeTieShou says:

        I agree that Kenneth is more of a gentlemen type of guy…

      • Canto says:

        I think Kenneth is a refreshing breath of air in a town of heartthrobs who just like to play around with an endless stream of girls.

        I think although he seems to have good points e.g. homebody, old-fashioned, down-to-earth, thrifty, fillal, etc, no one is perfect and his characteristic comes with a two-edged sword.

        E.g. If he is thrifty and takes the train to work, that is good. But if one is his girlfriend, one may also expect that he is not one to splurge on every special occasions, buy flowers which die, extravagant gifts regularly, etc.

        If he is a homebody, being his girlfriend may mean that you would have to stay at home or just go for walks around his estate most of the time. He may not enjoy more demanding activities, e.g. shopping, special outings, etc very often.

        So if you are the kind of girl who can accept these matters, then be with him. I think generally he is an alright, decent guy who would make a husband material to the right girl.

        • Jayne says:

          What you said is true, what may initially attract you to a person could end up to be traits that are indeed double-edged given the situation. Kenneth’s personality is not for everyone, especially women who may want more excitement and romance.

        • milo001 says:

          I agree with you too about Ma Ming will not be able to spend lavishly on his gf and prefer to stay at home more than going out.But if Nancy really like him she had to accept his flaws too right.And about you guys said that Nancy is too good for Ma ming.I don’t think so.If Nancy can accept Ma Ming flaws then Ma Ming should be able to accept her flaws as well.

        • HeTieShou says:

          Totally agree with your statements Canto! If you want more excitement and adventure, then you may find Kenneth to be really boring. However, if a girl doesn’t mind that type of lifestyle or has similar characteristics, then he would be suitable for her.

          Yup, he is definately great husband material to the right girl who doesn’t mind a more peaceful and homebody type of life.

        • Funn Lim says:

          You know, I wouldn’t mind Kenneth and his boringness. I mean romanticism is overrated. But I understand the concern but at the end of the day she’s not some young girl anymore, older girls looks for other qualities and I believe Kenneth Ma embodies those. I am sure he can be exciting if he wants to be and even if he just stay at home, nothing wrong with a cuddle or two at home. All those splurging etc, if he is stingy it is another matter. But you can’t expect him to be exciting by being generous materially with you. Then you have the wrong idea of a relationship.

          I personally like a guy who may not go pubs etc, but someone who I can talk to and do other stuff with. Kenneth seems to be that sort of guy. And a filial son is almost always a good husband material, if he has his own opinion and know where to draw the line.

        • Funn Lim says:

          P/S If he were to wear more of those white man chor era dress or that red hot sailor looking shirt (james bond preferred style), frankly I find him exciting. Even if he is dead boring. Boring to me is a guy who talks about himself and his dog or job or whatever.

        • lol says:

          Kenneth is a husband material. Hes kind hearted, hardworking, dont smoke, dont go to pubs, not a big spender,
          not a flirt. So many good qualities which might be why Nancy is desperately holding to him

      • bbfreak says:

        I think kenneth is good looking, but I was more attracted to his offscreen persona than his looks. He is definitely not hott though. I’m usually really vain, but Kenneth grew on me ! :-D
        One problem I have with him is his hair! I really wish they’d pick a good style for him, i hate that side swept bangs thing. I like his hair spiked

        • HeTieShou says:

          There is way more to a person than just looks….Many other things like character, personality,etc.. are way more important than just physical looks.

        • lol says:

          I like his offscreen personality too. Hes a very down to earth good innocent gentle guy and thats endearing :). Not too much about his looks because his smile can be too sheepish and goofy.

      • Fox says:

        No I don’t consider him as one. He might be nice in normal but I still believe that the ones who seem to not talk much will become a devil when they get mad. The dolphin and shark theory.

        I like man in the middle, maybe the boy next door type.

        Kenneth will look better if he stops the 囧 face most of the time I see him.

        • exoidus says:

          it’s even worst when a sweet talker that turns out to be a psychopath, LOL

          the one that should should gwing is myolie and true kenneth has that as well…

        • Fox says:

          Anyone who turn psycho is dangerous. However, it’s predicted or not.

        • exoidus says:

          what im trying to say is that it’s easier for women to fall in love with a sweet talker than a quiet guy.

          not sure about the quiet guy turning into a devil, but a charming guy might already be a devil in the beginning.

        • Fox says:

          That’s right, exoidus. I replied you that women might prevent that the sweetalker than quiet guy so when the quiet guy turn evil, the women will be hurt more.

          BTW it isn’t wat I really mean. I think the quiet guy keeps everything in their heart too much and when they got mad, they will be madder than normal ppl.

        • Fox says:

          Charming guy is devil from the beginning? Lol, there are charming guy but still decent :P. And there are devil guy who dun like to talk.

        • exoidus says:

          well it’s also possible for a quiet person to act normal or even less agressive when mad as well.

          hehe obviously there will be outliers so we should focus on the average population…

        • Fox says:

          All the quiet guys I know are that, so it’s what I blv, I dun force you to blv with me.

        • exoidus says:

          perhaps you are the reason they act in the way they do, LOL

        • Fox says:

          Why you don’t say that the nature of man is that?

    13. Jadio says:

      I think Kenneth deserves better than Nancy. Ditch this princess! Pick me!! LOL. I want to see Kenneth and Tavia together! Yes I think Kenneth is more a gentleman than sexy or heart throb. That’s fine, I love a gentle guy =P

      • milo001 says:

        Unfortunately Tavia like a women abuser like Him more than the obedient type like Ma Ming.Tavia should be with Chris rather than Him.

    14. Xuelx says:

      Regardless, best of luck to two of them! :P With each other or with other people. I do think that this report has some grains of truth, but I wouldn’t go and believe everything either.

    15. Kayna says:

      I think Nancy Wu does not deserve Kenneth Ma. They are people in two different world. I’m not saying this because I’m jealous or anything. Kenneth is a gentleman who cares about family and really kind. He deserves someone who would care for him. I can picture Nancy as a woman who would boss him around because he’s just too gentle.

      If you watched 同遊密語 (Play & Chat), both Kenneth and Nancy appeared on the show, although different episodes. Ever since watching it, I really despise Nancy. Her stuck up, princess-y attitude makes me abhor her. She practically ‘bullied’ the host, as if it was her own show. On the other hand, Kenneth was a total gentleman, allowing the girl host to choose what she wants, and buying a cake for her birthday.

      I know no one has to agree with me, but I really wish Kenneth would just open up his eyes and clearly see who he deserves. For me, I don’t think he deserves Nancy for one bit.

    16. Minami says:

      Not sure how Nancy is IRL but don’t like her acting/ her looks and just find her boring to watch on screen. Kenneth is better to watch onscreen but agree that he seems and sounds pretty laid back – he does have the filial son look..maybe that’s why my mom likes watching him so much haha

    17. momo says:

      I love Kenneath! ha ha. I think he’s very handsome. From what I’ve read, he does seem the good man and the good son. Although he does ordinary things but I definitely see a goofy humorous side of him from the many interviews. Oh I saw him in person at an autograph event in Toronto and he’s really very very good looking, almost better in person! But he is very tall and the average asian girls might be a bit short.
      I don’t like Nancy Wu at all, I don’t think she’s good enough for Kenneath. I believe he can find much better woman, both in looks and in personality. He needs to know he deserves better!
      I think if he wants to woo more hearts, esp from TVB actresses, he needs to work out more to build more muscles. Even Tavia Yeung said she likes guys with bigger muscles and Ma Ming’s arms has no muscles at all ha ha.
      I think Seleni Li is a much better match for Ma Ming

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