“Prominent Family” Costume Fitting

Damian Lau (劉松仁), Idy Chan (陳玉蓮), Tavia Yeung (楊怡), Kenneth Ma (馬國明), Ron Ng (吳卓羲), and Rebecca Zhu (朱晨麗 ) attended the costume fitting for new TVB series, Prominent Family <名媛望族> . In the series, Idy will portray Damien’s second wife while Tavia will portray his fourth wife. As Damien’s wife, will Tavia have to sit on his thigh? Tavia laughed and said that Damien will sit on her thigh instead!

Asked whether Tavia was disappointed that she did not win the TV Queen title at the 2011 Astro On Demand Awards in Malaysia earlier, Tavia said that she was not disappointed. Tavia was happy for Myolie Wu (胡杏兒) in winning the title. However, Tavia did not forget to support herself in the upcoming TVB Anniversary Awards.

Disappearing from the public eye for a lengthy amount of time since, Idy Chan noted that she has not collaborated with Damien Lau since 2008’s Catch Me Now <原來愛上賊>. Idy revealed that it was due to the producer and Damien’s involvement in the project that she decided to accept the role. Asked whether her acting may have become stiff due to absence from the screen, Idy laughed and said that was not the case, although the amount of time required to put on her make-up took longer! Regarding Andy Lau’s (劉德華) wife’s pregnancy, Idy noted that she was unaware of the news and will have to call him for confirmation.

Since Idy was working in mainland China earlier, Idy did not realize that Andy Lau (劉德華) won the Best Actor and Deanie Ip (葉德嫻) won the Best Actress Award at the 2011 Golden Horse Awards. Idy indicated that she only knew Deanie had won the Best Actress Award at the 68th Annual Venice Film Festival earlier.

Due to Fala Chen (陳法拉) suffering from facial paralysis and taking a 1-month leave of absence from TVB, 2011 Miss Hong Kong winner, Rebecca Zhu, replaced Fala in Prominent Family. Complimenting Fala for her beauty, Rebecca hoped that Fala will recover soon. Rebecca noted that she did not mind being the second actress to be considered for the role and felt honored to be given the performance opportunity.

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In Prominent Family, Rebecca will be involved in a love triangle with Ron Ng and Kenneth Ma. Ron Ng noted that he will guide newcomer, Rebecca Zhu, during filming. When the reporter asked Ron whether he will be as “hospitable” as Benny Chan (陳浩民), Ron noted there was no need to do so, as the director will also be guiding Rebecca during filming.

Prominent Family is produced by Chong Wai Kin (莊偉建). Other cast members include Elena Kong (江美儀), Sire Ma (馬賽), Vincent Wong (王浩信), Sek Sau (石修), Mary Hon (韓馬利), JJ Jia (賈曉晨), Stephen Huynh (黃長興), Bai Yan (白茵), Sammy Shum (沈震軒), Charmaine Li (李思欣), Savio Tsang (曾偉權), Ben Wong (黃智賢), and Lau Kong (劉江).

         

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Jayne: A big, star-studded cast for Prominent Family! Allegedly, Liza Wang’s Yesterday’s Glitter <京华春梦> served as inspiration for Prominent Family, which means a lot of family feuding, jealousy among wives, and decline of family fortune? Perhaps Damien will even suffer a massive heart attack (during intense family arguments), leading to dramatic death scene? I hope TVB does not resort to old plot devices!

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  1. tavia lookz pretty in that recycle costume that gigi wore in charm beaneath seeing that costume makes me miss gigi alot

    1. This costume has been recycled many times. Gigi Lai, Yoyo Chen, Sheren Tang and Kate Tsui has also wore it.

      1. It’s good practice to recycle. No need to let the costume go to waste after one series.

      2. It is normal to recycle since it is good to save money and also not put the costume to waste after only one series. Unless TVB suffers another fire and has to design all new costumes again…

    2. I think it would be better for TVB to like auction their costumes that jut reuse it. This way fans can get some memorable piece while getting new costumes to fit a new series could be bought from the money autioned. That way it would be good fir both sides

  2. And as usual, when damien dies, the series dies along with him. I hope not.

    “When the reporter asked Ron whether he will be as “hospitable” as Benny Chan (陳浩民),”

    How vulgar. Do the reporters ask such insanely insensitive questions?

    1. Funn,
      “Do the reporters ask such insanely insensitive questions?”

      Such inappropriate questions usually get no responses anyhow, given how out of context it was.

      Damien is destined to die in “Prominent Family” as the patriarch…otherwise there is no story to tell, no collapse of family wealth to save, no evil plotting between the wives after the head of household dies.

      Perhaps Kenneth Ma will show he can lead a series after Damien’s character dies. It’s either Kenneth or Ron Ng.

      1. It will be Kenneth who lead if Damien dies. Ron plays Tavia’s little brother. So, he’s only related to the family via his sister’s marriage into it. Kenneth, on the other hand, is the only son of Damien. So, he’s the only male heir of the family. He will have to take over his father’s position if his father dies.

      2. @Kidd I read that Ron is an orphan who at first is an agressive youth but later slowly become a triad leader and no news saying hes Tavias brother.

      3. I agree though that Kenneth more likely to be lead after Damian dies in the series.

      4. Ok, more info has been added to wikipedia since I last read it. Seems like Kenneth is not the only son. He still has a little brother played by Vincent Wong.

        But still, he’s the older brother. So, he still will be the one who take over his father’s position after if his father dies.

      5. Kidd,
        “Prominent Family” will be Kenneth’s chance to prove whether he can lead a grand production series. He is gaining more charisma in recent years.

      6. @ lol

        I know wikipedia info might not be accurate. Just want to let you know where I got the info from.

      7. I also see that TVB is giving Kenneth many lead roles now. I think TVB is training his to be the next leading actor and if Damian dies in PF Kenneth will.be the first of his generation to lead a grand production

      8. It’s sad that Ron is putting down more and more. However, it’s also a chance for Ron to challenge himself.

      9. The producer is LOO producer and he’s using a tried and true formula for Ron. Ron’s character remind me of Cripple Co in LOO. Bosco get good reviews after Cripple Co and many people said he’s better than Michael. Since their characters are almost same Ron will also get the limelight like Cripple Co.

      10. Kenneth will be better in a righteous role than in his villain roles 😀

      11. @Vivien: with Ron’s poor acting, I doubt it. However, I also hope to see his improvements since kind of sorry for him to be supporter for Kenneth.

  3. This series has many actors and actresses I like. So, beside the story, I’ll also be watching it for the cast.

    1. Same here, this series has a lot of actors and actresses I like but I will have to look for how many screentime they will have to judge that I should watch this one or not. Before when Fala is still in this one, she might be a lead -> chance for me to watch higher, but Rebecca replaced her, then have to consider how long does Damien, Mary, JJ and Rebecca has to judge. Haizz, hard.

      1. Most probably Rebecca’s screen will be cut and Tavia got more 😛

  4. Is Tavia playing the evil 4th wife in this series? If yes, that would be great cuz it has been a while she hasn’t playing anything evil eversince the “Beyond” although I don’t think TY was evil enough in Beyond,..but its nice to see TY getting a evil role for some changes.

    1. If Tavia’s an evil wife I hope she can improve from her ott evil in BTROC

      1. So true. Hope she’ll improve this time.

        Btw, Lol..have you watch the latest ep of COTRH? Myolie’s getting alot of scenes lately with the exposure of her bb secret to the emperor and I dont agree with some ppl that Myolie’s acting is horrible. I think she can convinced me as evil concubine more than TY in BTROC. The most impressive scene of Myolie was when she laughed crazily infront of Jessica when Jessica begs her to release her dad.

      2. I think Myolie is fine in COTRH and shes not as ott as Kam Ling in BTROC. Im annoyed by HK audiences who have too much time to complain to TVB about Myoli’s acting.

      3. Veejay,

        U were impressed by her crazy laugh? I thought that was totally overdone. But I guess her character is a little nuts. How can she have the nerve to ask Jessica later, let’s just get along.

      4. @Josie,

        yes I think Myolie’s crazily laugh was nicely done. She was supposed to act like “losing her mind” after her mom’s death and the crazy laugh was quite good, shows she’s lose her mind thinking of revenge.

        Maybe I’ve this weird habit, always like to see artist playing outstanding scene like Bosco licking shoe, mYolie’s crazy laugh, Jessica playing evil concubine (which she seldom plays evil character too), TY plays evil (too bad, she failed in BTROC) etc.

      5. @josie,

        She got the nerve to ask Jessica “lets get along” because she didnt want any bad karma to be passed to her baby. She also promised the buddha that she’ll starting making good deeds inorder to exchange for her baby’s health and life. That’s why she hopes Jessica will forgive her and get along..

      6. I think it’s too late to worry about the bad karma. She blamed Jessica even though her evil mom brought it upon herself. Then she expects Jessica to just forget about what happened to her dad (who was innocent BTW). I think myolie is as diluted as her mom.

        Nancy might be evil but I still like her more than myolie b/c at least she’s not a hypocrite.

      7. Josie, the way that cursed series go, everyone will be orphaned in the end. Mom dies, blame Jess. Dad dies, blame Myolie. Then myolie kills her mom, she kills her uncle, she kills her aunt, etc etc and in the end I hope they each have a huge set of relatives to get killed off. And lesson no. 1. NEVER EVER confess in a temple before checking every corner. Dumb storyline.

      8. And myolie is awful. And the scene where she and joel looked at Sunny in shocked after he heard what they said and revealed his presence to them was seriously funny. I mean seriously comical. Myolie just acts without a hint of subtlety. I can understand the criticisms and I am one who thinks she’s awful. Jess is different sort of awful.

      9. Veejay, isn’t that everything? Yes I dislike everything except the costumes but hate the colour coordination. My eyes is sore from the chilli red (wall) on chilli red (costume)on chilli red (lipstick). But I am most sore about the rudeness of everyone. Now it is becoming some huge tragic drama. Not even Qiongyau could write such melodrama.

      10. Evil people always laugh crazily when they lose and go insane? Actually I like BTROC ending. I may have wished for a better death for Tavia but after watching the entire series I was happy with her ending because frankly she was such an insignificant petty villain, she deserves an insignificant petty end. No glorious machine gun raining on her sort of scene.

      11. Myolie and Tavia are overacting like crazy women in their villain roles. I know that scene of Myolie talking to Joel. HOLY her gwing face comes back at that time when she was doing her OTT acting. Jessica is Jessica and something about her is unnatural and dull in this palace setting.

      12. Bring back Sheren! She was damn subtle in WAB something that Tavia and Myolie can’t do!

    2. Judging from her “evil” performance in BTROC, I would not want to see Tavia acting evil again, ever. But what else can Tavia play? Definitely not anymore of those innately kind but just stubborn, i-have-a-mind-of-my-own kind of girl. Man…I don’t know what else Tavia could be.

      1. I dont know if its Tavia herself or her characters but lately Tavia look like shes playing herself in all her series. All the same Tavia. She need to differentiate her characters because the nurse, the teacher, the lawyer and Tavia the actress feel like the same person

  5. The cast looks great minus wooden Ron and the newbie miss HK.

    Plot wise nothing different from all TVB series so it’s totally predictable what’s going to happen.

    Would be better if Damien’s character is the devil here and Kenneth & Ron needs to stop him from hurting the people they love…

    1. Yeah, same here. Dunno why even they mentioned Ron in the sereis, it still doesn’t intrigue my interest..probably I already knew how he would act..

      In contrary, Ive more interest in Kenneth’s role developing cuz Kenneth always surprise me wiht his acting.

      1. Kenneth overshadowed Kevin in AFOS in a righteous role so I think Kenneth will be good in this family series

    2. Exoidus,
      “The cast looks great minus wooden Ron and the newbie miss HK.”

      Maybe Ron will surprise you one day. Gallen Lo was wooden faced for many years until his big breakout. Even Bobby Au Yeung was stony-faced for many years. Maybe Ron needs to just live life more, experience more bitterness, and overcome some personal obstacles before his acting skills grow. Life experience and gaining wisdom are important components of success in any job.

      Let’s see what Rebecca is capable of before the criticisms begin. Btw, when Rebecca Zhu smiles, she reminds me of a young Kenik Kwok, due to the strong jaw line.

    3. @exoidus Better to watch first. Ron’s character looks promising and deep in this series. Besides Ron has been steadily improving since his debut. I know you support Ruco but that doesnt mean other siu sungs are bad. Ruco himself acknowledges another siu sung acting.

      1. Sure he will improve at a constant slowpace rate which will make him a capable actor when he gets old, LOL

        He have been in the industry approx. for the same time period as Kenneth and he have improved alot from his recent work and i do acknowledge that.

      2. Maybe TVB should give Ron an evil role to act to test his acting ability.. LIke Gallen’s past roles..all his evil roles were highly praised and received by audiences.

      3. yeah he always play a nice guy.

        he should’ve play a “beast” with mental issues, LOL

      4. lol, yeah that will helps Ron to prove his acting ability is par with his peers. Ron acted too many of this “good” man role made me feel really really BORED with him.

      5. Ron will be a villain triad leader in this series and he will grow gradually from low agressive scum to the triad leader. That’s not baddass enough for you two? 😛

      6. My badass level is “Ron has act really mentality disturbed badass killing for greed, power etc” like Gallen in his previous evil role, his eyes contact was so intense and filled with evil aura that gives ppl the feeling that he’s crazy and evil..

        So hopefully Ron will give ppl the evil vibe with his intense killing eyes..

      7. don’t have to high hopes. You will prolly feel “im just doing it for money and really prefer being with Viann” eyes feel, LOL

      8. lol but you two are like shutting him off without giving him a chance. Gallen was wooden too before he become famous for that evil killing intent eyes you mentioned

      9. Eventually I think Bosco did a good job in LOO. (the scene where he licks the shoes of some gangster was quite memorable).. maybe Ron should licks the shoe of Damien’s or Kenneth’s or beat the crap of them and force them to strip lolol.

      10. @Veejay you just give a good example. We need to give the siu sungs chance to prove themselves and not shut them off. Who wouldve thought Bosco can be good and got depth in LOO before watching?

      11. @ Veejay

        Ron’s weaking point is eyes acting. You want him to have intense killing eyes with evil aura like Galen? I think you will have to wait a long time.

        Bosco has always been a better actor then Ron. He already can act with his eyes in is first major role as Tam Chi Tung in ‘Fight The Light’. That was the first time I saw Bosco act and was most impressed with this newbie actor. His acting became stagnant in the middle, but, now, he seems to have pick up his pace again in LOO. Bosco has never been wooden. Even in his weakest portrayal, he was not wooden.

      12. he should’ve play a “beast” with mental issues, LOL

        He did this similar kind of role, but not with TVB.

      13. Who wouldve thought Bosco can be good and got depth in LOO before watching?

        Me :P. I always think Bosco can act from his beginning. Not too outstanding but he can have facial expression shown on face. LOO’s acting of Bosco is nothing different to his normal acting in other series.

      14. @kidd,

        That’s sad for Ron, he really works on his eyes contact..he seems shy away whenever the camera is rolling at him. maybe he really have this camera’s phobia??

        @Fox,

        Even Ron acted beastly mental killer/badass, he still can’t breakthrough his wooden acting..

      15. @Veejay: It isn’t a too good performance but quite ok. I find it isn’t OTT and better than TY’s performance in BTROC. That’s why I dun buy her comment (maybe a joke) to say that Ron should watch her performance to learn to act villain :P, as I think Ron did better.

      16. Fox,

        Buy whose comment? Who said Ron should watch TY in BTROC? I think TY’s acting ability is always in a flectuate level aka Up and down.. she didnt improve much nor did she acted good before. So far, TY didn’t give me any memorable role in her previous acting.. same goes to Ron. But what I meant to say is TVB should give more evil roles to their siusang and fadans cuz audiences will get bored watching the same old goody role again and again.

      17. @Veejay and Fox Whatever Tavia said to Ron, I dont want him to take her comment seriously.

      18. @Veejay Thats why you shouldnt shut Ron out l because with a good character he might blow and surprise you away and make you love him lol

      19. @lol,

        Ok i will give him one more chance to prove his acting ability isn’t wooden anymore in this new series lol.

      20. btw this series will give Kenneth and Ron chance to lead grand priduction and its good for TVB to train them since many actors left and Raymond is more into movies and albums

      21. Damien is still the heart of the series, isn’t he? If not him but Kenneth and Ron as lead, the series will decrease the quality from beginning more :P.

        @Veejay: TY said that. She commented that Ron should learn her acting in BTROC to act villain. It might be a joke (?) but from her acting in the Hou Gong series (China), I don’t think she has learn the lesson of villain acting at all. The same way of expression showed in this one.

      22. @Fox

        You kidding? Tavia want Ron to learn from her how to be crazy villain?

      23. I still think Ron’s best work is his portrayal of a computer geek in that Liza Wang series.

    4. Rebecca took part in some kind of acting academy, maybe she’ll surprise you. Hmm, it’s quite weird. Because you are a fan of Linda, I think you will accept the newbie with big role at first better than that as Linda also had big role as first role.

      1. In my POV, Rebecca has the most appealing presence among the past few years’ Miss HK. I can see why TBB wants to push her fast.

        Linda has a good screen presence, personal view from me.

      2. In recent years’ misses, Rebecca is also the most appealing to me.

      3. I dont think she even resembles 10% of Fala at all. I think our Ms Astro 2011 resembles Fala even more..imo.

      4. Why can’t someone just be themselves?? I think that it is sad to be someone else’s lookalike since you may be stuck in that person’s shadow…

    1. Kidd,
      Have you checked out the list of TVB managed female artists at TVB.com lately? Not many selections…many young women do not really stand out. Sire Ma is still very raw, but she is quite photogenic. Although I still see her as more of someone’s little sister at this point.

      1. And Sire should stop looking at camera when she speaks but frankly she’s ok.

      2. @Funn: In MWNS she didn’t do that much. In ROW she is so-so but in MWNS, she is better. I dun rmb which filmed before.

      3. How come I never notice Sire looks at the camera everytime the camera was shooting at her? (Maybe i didnt pay attention to her much) I thought her acting was rather raw but getting better now in COTRH.

  6. x = not my cup of tea
    y = no bias/favorite inside

    x + y = z

    therefore z = I’m not gonna watch..haha 😛

    Sigh I feel like a nerd

    1. x+y=z/a*b+c=D

      a=switching channels
      b=no. of episodes
      c=online discussion and comments
      D= will eventually surrender to the powers of TVB and watch

      Masaharu, we are all losers in the end.

    2. Masaharu, your formula reminds me of MOL :P. So TY will shout to you: “Why? You counted wrongly! Why?”

      1. Fox, your bringing up of MOL only reminded me of how it can’t be compared to Galileo 🙁

      2. Yes, it never can’t be compared with Galileo. However, Galileo isn’t too outstanding to me :P. Maybe I watched too much good detective anime, haha.

    3. I will only watch if the plot is good…. Lets hope that the plot is good and not so redundant or a copy of other past series… But they probably are out of ideas so they have to repeat the same old plot lines lover and over again with a different cast each time…

  7. LOL is TVB just gonna put Rebecca Zhu in whatever role Fala was gonna play?? Sad… But I hope I will like her more than Fala

  8. That’s why TVB series always look unpretty unlike China series for example BBJX. Costume damn gorgeous!

    1. It used to be the other way around… TVB used to have many very beautiful costumes, but even back then they recycled their clothes(just not as often). China used to have more dull and not so nice clothing. Other series have nice costumes as well besides BBJX.

  9. Gotta go in with zero expectations with this one, BTROC taught me that. Especially since this cast looks like a huge gap between the vets’ ability and the young guns. I can’t decide who will be worse – Ron or Kenneth? Kenneth is the better actor but not in these types of series and Ron is well, Ron.

    The man chor type series are the only type I actually really enjoy watching Tavia in, so hopefully she does well.

    I think it’s gonna be one of those series where one of the side characters. non-A-listers will make an impression on me.

  10. Although Yesterday’s Glitter is considered one of the all time TVB classics, I just can’t watch the series a second time. The acting is good and the script is great but it is too much of a tearjerker. Too tragic for me. Terrible things happening to innocent people and a weak protagonist besotted and overwhelmed by the schemers around him. If Prominent Family is to follow Yesterday’ Glitter’s template I think I will give this one a skip.

  11. Please tell me Kenneth is not YET again the villain and Ron not YET again the nice brash dude with a quick temper? Please don’t! Please NO!! I want Kenneth the nice guy. Is this a sad story? And is Tavia considered upgraded since her leading man is the father veteran of such series? Quick guess how long Damien will live in the series before he dies?

    1. Damian will die again??? Where did I see that from??? PONR??? Oh goodness… I hope that it is not a copy of PONR. I have a feeling that some of it will be similar since what more is there to talk about in these kinds of series/stories.

    2. @Funn

      ROFL you should be happy you got your wish. Ron is the villain. Kenneth is nice guy and Damian’s good son.

    3. Let’s hope Damian will at least live for more than half of the series ROFL

  12. to me is dumb how you guyz bring back old series to bash a actress/actor when is over and when this section is about the (Prominent Family” Costume Fitting) sure of course we all can say how and what we feel if that artist can act good or not in this serie with the descriptionz besides their name

    but no need to bash at otherz the serie is over already just move on

    to lol i dont agree with you bout this part (is her role that is bland and simple so is not her fault and she was overshadowed like you all said and about her being the same person i disagree for her lawyer in TOT in some ways she is same in some wayz not)

    Not-Is tavia a stubborn person in real life?,in the serie she was stubborn arguing with keith about black/white and whats right whats wrong.Same-does she not say true things is she not a straightforward person?to me she is even in the serie.Not- does she scoldz her collegaues/managerz/producers no but she scold nataile in there which i fine it quite good.

    What i dont understand is why fanz alwayz bash on artistes that does bad i think (i think only i didn’t assume so dont get mad)that most of you forget the good they did in there is alwayz the bashing but when a artistes does good there is praises i know but talk forawhile then is left alone unlike the bashing thats what i think

    1. It’s simply to understand that do good will be praised, do bad will be criticized/bashed. Do you see anyone praise someone for doing something bad?

      1. I agree. What you want to talk is your freedom. It’s like saying no chewing gum in the Chocolate room. Nonsense.

  13. i mean sayin tavia did soo horrilbe in beyond is not fair to her and it is her first time she did great in a couple of scenes like the one where she double slap selena and what she said to her most ppl praises her for that even the (netizenz)-sorry i might have spell it wrong,and after moses,mary left her crying stop really fast and came to a evil smile face when selena turn around to look at her-there was one scene i really like she was saying stuff about selena’s mom and was saying (but duck seen jung) something like that and soo on…

    Doesn’t that mean anything to you guyz comeone give her some credits/space

    1. Would you please use some dots (.) in your long post? It’s very hard to understand wat you are trying to say without knowing where is the start and where is the end of your sentences.

      And the scene you mentioned (slap Selena) is one of scenes ppl criticized :P. I dun think “first time” can be used to excuse of OTT acting in this series as she isn’t a newbie when acting BTROC. She has 11 years of experiences before that and IF she can’t handle a type of role, she can’t be called a good actress.

      Credit will be given to her if she can do good. Such as ppl still can give her credit for crying – which seem to be the only things she can do well after being lead.

      1. If Selena did well then how come she didnt win an award or got into top 5 for supporting actress? People did not even talked about her role in beyond. How do you know Tavia got criticize on the slapping scene with selena? From what i see, Hong kong audience did not complain about Tavia’s performance. Everyone at this site or other enlgish forms always use her performacne in beyond to bash her and I will use the fact that she won My Favorite female character to argue back that she won an award for her solid performance in Beyond. Dont say the award is given to her because of TVB becasue she clearly got the support from the audience that year and her popularity. No need to reply cuz this is what I see

  14. to Fox no i dont but there was a few scenes where tavia did good/okay how ever you fanz feel anywayz good night

    1. Some ppl are just jealous of TY and therefore, comment so much about her…when there is critism, there will be inprovements…No one is perfect…

      1. LMAO~. Nobody is perfect then why ppl have to be jealous with TY? If you understand that criticism can bring improvements, then it’s good. But nobody need to jealous with her.

  15. Tavia’s character look interesting. This is also new kind of role she has not done before. So, I’m looking forward to her performance.

    Btw, where did you guys get the info that her character is evil?

  16. I think Tavia’s character will be a more fleshed out version of Nancy in NR. TVB not only recycles costumes, they also always recycled characters and plots. How many family feud dramas can you possibly make using the exact same TV tropes?

    1. Yeah. Men without shadows received complaints too, which freaked me out cause Raymond’s dramas always appeared good. Now, Pathetic.!

  17. In the pic link below

    http://a5news.chanyuklinonline.com/?p=2045#comments

    Who are the 2 children in the picture? I hope 1 of them is Idy’ s kid. I hope she won’t end up lonely. I read that 1st wife has 3 children in the pics and the 3rd wife also has kid but don’t know how many. So wish our Idy does the same.

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